Answered this question elsewhere. At length, the answer is No, but mostly because "Black Lives Matter" is really little more than a group of people following a trendy slogan masquerading as serious thought. Where it is more substantive it tends to the extreme and is not so much the pursuit of justice as the catharsis that comes with seeking vengeance.
Thus for example, Black Lives Matter's recent craze to "defund the police." This is patently self-destructive where it is not simply absurd. Indeed, it was not 30 years ago that African-American community leaders were demanding a stronger police presence in minority communities as crime rates - as a result of the 1960s/70s passion for treating the criminal as a victim rather than a perpetrator - soared.
Indeed, thus how the nation got to its' current fits of moral exhibitionism and self-pity. The increased police presence of the 1980s, 90s and early 2000s brought crime rates down to levels that had not been seen since the peaceful placid 1950s. Now relatively secure and safe, many in those communities began to take their safety for granted and found the means to such safety as intolerably oppressive and racist.
Thus the cries of institutional racism and the theatrical protests in the streets that have now conduced to violence. It is feeling substituting for facts as the data show that, by far, most crime in the African-American community is black on black, that whites are far more likely to suffer police brutality than are black and indeed that in 2019, the last year that full statistics are available, that a grand total of 10 African-Americans were shot by white police officers.
All this against a background where, until the recent pandemic, the unemployment rate among African-Americans had fallen to its' lowest level since statistics for that demographic began to be kept in 1947. This also in a country that had not so long ago elected and re-elected its' first African-American President. A thing that would have been impossible had it depended upon African-American votes alone.
No matter, particularly in a populist age where the common man is fancied the pinnacle of all virtue and where self-pity is at a premium, the conclusion has been drawn that America is irreducibly racist and African-Americans are oppressed - the latter also playing off the virtue and cachet that comes with being classified a victim. This then leading to an extremism that is profoundly silly where it is not profoundly self-destructive.
Thus Black Lives Matter recently called for the abolition of the traditional family. This ignoring the fact that African-American children are, by far, the most likely to be born out of wedlock and raised by single mothers. The social pathologies that flow from that to follow - including higher illiteracy, a greater chance of criminal activity, drug addiction and so on.
Of course, instantly it will be argued that there is racism in America, as the recent Minneapolis episode illustrates. Actually, that is slipshod language. Bigotry there is. Racism, on the other hand, is a schematic ideology and is comparatively rare.
No matter, human beings are imperfect and imperfectible and if the expectation is that there will be no justice or peace until perfect racial harmony is achieved, the wait is apt to be a very long one. Indeed, it will come at the cost of the very social stability that the African-American community needs if it is to overcome the maladies that afflict it and are, by far, the primary source of its' grievances.
So Black Lives Matter is the drivel that is left behind when slogans substitute for thought and emotion replaces analysis. It being further aggravated by a supine culture that prizes moral exhibitionism and "virtue signalling" over the hard work and inevitably imperfect outcomes that will facilitate real social improvement.
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Absolutely not. First and foremost they have called for killing cops and that alone makes them disgusting. Then you factor in the rioting and looting which is also a mark against them.
Then you have the major issue that their founding principle for their cause, police actively targeting blacks and being just generally racist (the irony is many will argue that not all black lives matter members want cops killed or are racist towards whites, yet the very premise that black lives posits is that all cops are racist and by extension so is the entire government and country (but we are suppose to look at them as individuals but not the other way around), is factually incorrect.
If blacks were targeted, we would have more blacks killed by cops then whites, this however is not the case. Also if we look at the statistics the EXACT OPPOSITE is true, cops are 18.5% MORE LIKELY TO BE KILLED BY BLACKS THEN BLACKS ARE TO BE KILLED BY COPS. So in fact blue lives matter actually has far more legitimacy then black lives matter.
Another issue is that black lives matter doesn't actually care about black lives. Even pretending that all incidents with police are racially fueled (they are not, black cops and Hispanic cops have the same arrest records and incident occurences are identical to their white counter parts), even ignoring that most people killed are white, ignoring that only 4% of fatal incounters with the police are questionable, that's 32 out of the 800 that occur in a nation of 327 million, even throwing in an additional 200 to round that out to a solid thousand, is this the primary issue within the black community? Well lets look, how many blacks are killed by blacks? Over 9200 a year on average. So even lying through my teeth, rounding up the numbers, counting all occurences as if they were all unjustified when in fact only about 4% are questionable, ignoring that the majority of those are white, ignoring all of that and giving that much leeway you still have more then a 900% greater threat to blacks coming from blacks then cops. Is violence from police an issue? Absolutely not.
On top of that they claim racism but statistically blacks are 150% more likely to commit hate crimes then whites. Is racism from whites an issue? No. According to the statistical data from the DOJ and FBI (backed by NCVS data) shows that 80% of all interracial violence is perpetrated BY BLACKS AGAINST WHITES! Is racism from whites towards blacks a problem, is violence from whites towards blacks a problem? Absolutely not! The EXACT OPPOSITE IS TRUE. So no, I do not support a movement of people who are rabidly racist, completely ignorant, and horribly violent.
I support some parts of it.
I support equal treatment for black people. I think they deserve so much better than what the world is for them right now. I think everyone oughta be treated with respect and dignity and the value of their lives should be recognized.
However, I don't agree with the "All Cops Are Bad" idea. I really, really don't. I've seen people out on social media who are trying to get their local governments to DEFUND THE POLICE STATIONS. DEFUND THEM! Do y'all realize the implications if they somehow managed to succeed? These are also the same kind of people who are pushing for gun control. When someone breaks into your home, threatens your family, well, I hope you have a great time wishing you still had some cops around to risk their lives to save your sorry ass. They have families too, lives.
I don't agree with the rioting. People are being killed, beaten, maimed. Businesses are being destroyed. People are afraid and others are mourning the loss of their loved ones who were UNNECESSARILY KILLED by people supposedly fighting AGAINST UNNECESSARY KILLINGS.
I don't agree with the support targeting that's going on. I see comments under so many people's posts on social media saying "excUSE me, I noticed you haven't posted about BLM (or maybe their four posts of the day just weren't enough) and I think you're so so selfish for actually daring to have followers and not put your name down to support everything that's happening without question." Half these people aren't even from the US! They're getting absolutely chewed out for not getting out on the streets and protesting, WHEN THEY ARE NOT EVEN FUCKING HERE. Some of their countries don't even have these problems so big. Like I just feel like this is an America problem first and foremost and while support and activism elsewhere is great, it isn't our place to DEMAND that people across the world fight our fight.
It's a pretty big reason to feel shaken and if you just surround yourself with information you begin to realise how many lives have been shattered because of this. Young black children having to learn how to put their hands up, not reach into their pocket and say their name. "I am not armed". It's stuff like that that really kinda freaks me out. I didn't know about any of this until year 8 maybe but kids are having to live through this in America from such a young age. I haven't been too racially segregated and tbh there is no way to compare. America is such an oppressed nation. My mums bff from America was like "oh yeah this is a daily thing". Yes, it is but you are desensitised. This should not be normal. This is not good. The only way it will be solved is for worldwide havoc. Same happened with the riots during the women's movement in the 1900s. Racism can't be burned like we want the house to be in animal farm, so by making this a personal extravaganza to people, only then will they wake up and realise we have to do something. Having to live in a place where walking into a shop can end up with you dead is something that no one should live with. It's disgusting. Put yourself in Floyd's shoes. And the shoes of the thousands of people. People of colour who have died due to racial discrimination. Killing is unacceptable when it happens to someone important but does that make black people unimportant. Why do they go under the radar? Is that acceptable? I guess it also might be because I like to know about the world and I like to get my voice heard but it's just so disgusting that people who are "trained" can treat someone so lowly because of what? Their skin.
I 110% support the movement and even though there iss carnage worldwide at the moment during an infectious pandemic like this, I feel as if this will be a real wakeup call to our corrupt legal and political systems world wide.
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absolutely they do matter.. if i could change one thing about it tho it would be that all lives matter. fact is i think we donot have representation in this country i think the vote is a scam a hoax.. yet we still habe to pay taxes.. even if we make less than a living wage! .. making most of us just plain slaves. surviving and being enslaved by debt. meanwhile jeff bezos has the wealth of 150,000 mllionaires.. or more.. that'is more wealth than many many countries.. in fact in the usa today while the vote is meaningles the real vote is the dollar.. and so naturally jeff bezos has a few milliion more votes than i do.. so naturally the usg works for bezos and his friends.. dont think politicians work for the rich? well hillary got 1.5 years of presidental salary equivelent for 2x 20 min speeches to goldman sachs.. clinton got paid around 300k a year for her sec of state job.. if she sved very pennyshe might have 1.2 mllion after her govt post. but no.. they aquired over 2 billion in wealth while she was in office.. now.. honestly.. who do you think clinton worked for? goldmans achs? whoever gave her the 2 billion? sure as hell didn't work for the American people...
NO. I support black people killing each other and burning Liberal cities to the ground, but I don't support any bullshit about apologizing for slavery or kissing their black asses and begging them not to riot. Slavery was the best thing that ever happened to black people and they should be grateful for getting to live in a modern, prosperous country instead of being left in Africa to live in a mud hut and eat bugs, like their ancestors who sold them into slavery in the first place. We didn't go into the jungles with nets and kidnap them, they were already chained up and waiting for us when we got into port. They aren't descended from "kings and queens," they were SOLD to us by their old kings and queens. And now they get to enjoy things like soap, medicine, education, the internet, air conditioning, cheap, delicious, nutritious food, and a million other things they never could have EVER invented for themselves. Black people are ungrateful. The average IQ of black people in Africa is 75. The average IQ of black people in America is 85. The cutoff for mental retardation is 75. We literally lifted them out of retardation, and all they can do with their ten point boost from living in a white country is complain and whine and loot and rob and kill. Fuck them. They should go back to Africa if they think they'd like it more.
No and I’m sick to death of racism! Why does this even still exist? I don’t see colour I see cultural differences that is all. I have friends of all races and colours and ye they are different to me they all do things differently to the way I did growing up. I can’t invite my Muslim girl mates to the pub for food because their families wouldn’t like it. My Thai friends don’t heavily drink but like to walk and pick fruits etc. My black friends are different based on which country they come from. I know they are different to me but I adapt to each friend.
I am sick to death though of the lopsided racism. This last week white people have been told they can’t braid their hair cos it’s a black thing! Erm no ever heard of french or Dutch plaits if they’re gonna play those cards they will be told to fuck right off!
the news is documenting 8% of deaths in prison account for black people but they only make up 3% of the UK population but what they fail to mention is they make up 15% of the prison population so 8% is low! Watching the poor police horses have weapons thrown at them is a fucking disgrace and the rioting! Acting like animals. There is zero excuse for that behaviour. LIFE MATTERSNo. BLM has proven to be a racist, hateful, vain, ignorant, gatekeeping group only concerned with stomping out the ludicrous notion of a nationwide, deep systemic racism in the US. I especially talk about the Toronto chapter of BLM when I say this as their leadership are blatantly racist, mostly Yusra Khogali.
Also, let's be honest, George Floyd's death was simply a result of the incompetence of the system of recruiting these officers, and of the officers themselves, not anything about race.
I also support something I have come up with, neo-ALMism. Less patriotism/nationalism and more unification of the races against the problem of racism.
The reason I have come up with an idea like this is because I'm a receiver of racism myself and will not belittle myself to a position as an "ally" when I want to stand up with others of different races against racism.
Would it not be ideal for a united version of BLM so it wouldn't be biased towards the black community?No. I support the other lives matter group that can't be mentioned on this site.
I believe all lives matter because they do, black lives included.
My goal is to get black people the fairness they deserve then put it back on all people because black lives are not the only ones that have trouble. Given, it's some significant at this point. But there are many of different types of different people in danger throughout the world. It's not a world of just white and dark skin, there are more people out there that need help too. And again, #blacklivesmatter I believe they do and we need to stop this racism but the overall focus should be all lives matter because that's true as well. And I'm not talking about the comfort of people either. Personally, those with religious beliefs in other countries are in danger, and that's just one example. Muslims can be another.I support all lives matter and I truly appreciate why Black Lives Matter is so important in today's world. The young generation is doing a much better job of inclusion for all than my generation so I know we still have plenty of work to do on the subject of racism. BUT I do not support the violence that is being instigated by those who want to take advantage of the situation for there own political gain.
Our political leaders, the Celebrities, and all people should not be out condoning violence as the answer to our problems. When the recent Murder of an innocent Black Man was televised over and over again, our country was united in it's response to that horrible event. Then suddenly the people who should be preaching clam and understanding went to the forefront and encouraged violence that will NOT solve any problems, only divide us further once again.I do!
Actually, it's not even about being black, it's about being a human being. Police officers and law enforcement are supposed to protect us, we should be able to trust them. But they've been abusing their power forever. An innocent human being being killed by a cop for absolutely no reason is simply disgusting, let alone if it happens only because you're black. White people commit crimes as well, do drugs as well, etc. It's not a black thing.
There's no point denying it. Racism is real, it is happening. We can't close our eyes anymore. It's 2020 people!
We're all human beings. We should be treated equally.No , because it is NOT founded for the benefit of black people... this is a deliberately engineered tool of division and control , and will be used as a pretext for more draconian restrictions... such as martial law and constant surveillance & tracking , and this " happened " very quickly after pushback protests over the C19 lockdowns... those living in devastated communties already suffering from this lockdown , can thank George Soros and his gang for funding agent provocateurs to start these riots... wake up people... don't be sheeple !!
All lives matter. But this movement no.
For the last couple of years in the UK, blacks have been killing blacks. Either stabbing or shooting, gang related, or drugs
No one battered an eye lid. It's probably the same in the US.
No one went to this guy's defence when he was saying I can't breathe. But some one got that close he was nearly under the car with him.
What would the propaganda have been if the PO had been Black , which it could quite well of been.
I wonder how many black guys guys behave died since in Minnesota?I am to treat all people equally by loving my neighbor as myself. I refuse to believe in races and black lives matter requires one to believe in races. I realize there are racist out there, but to say black people are only killed because of their skin color or that racist are only a certain skin color, that to me is racist. The moment you make racism a skin color you are the racist. What happened to Floyd was wrong and clearly excessive force, but you either see a man killed or a black man killed. If his skin color makes a difference to you as far as outrage or disgust, then you are a racist. If you riot because of your or someone else skin color you are racist. I believe the police should have better training, but I support their work. These riots are proof positive why we need police, to stop these heinous crimes. What happened to David Dorn should never have happened.
God no. I'm a white nationalist. I say it loud and proud. Black hood rats keep on proving the scum they are over and over and over again.
Here in the South they are not so bad. Probably because they are outnumbered heavily by white people in my area. But if you look at most Urban cities you can see blacks acting like they still live in the jungle. Not only do they loot and destroy private property, they actively seek out white people to attack. This is a racist group.. More racist than this White Nat. could ever be... no seriously.
[Black Guns Matter]I support Black lives movement for what they stand for. I don’t stand for the defund the police. There is a lot of police officers that do a good job and are nice. However there is a good amount of them that are bad and racist. Instead of defunding police it should be having polic officers having diversity training racial bias training and officers that had many complaints should be investigated by outside dA or department and the officers should be suspended. Officers should also lose their job if they have a certain amount of complaints
I did at first, but as the week has gone by and I have learned more about Floyd and have seen the destruction of private and public property, the looting and the hateful talk against whites, I don't support it any more. I was never a Trump supporter, but now I am. This bullshit is only causing more polarization. I am really tired of the "does this make me a racist" type questions. A man high on meth and fentanol, positive for COVID, trying to pass a conterfit bill, with a violent past, arrested for beating a pregnant woman is now a hero. Protesters/ rioters are looting and burning inocent people's businesses and seem to be heros also. The police I guess are scared to do anything now, they might go to jail. Let the military stop it and declare Marshal Law. The thugs will understand that.
Nope. They operate under false pretenses that are harmful to themselves and the country as a whole.
You know who kills the most blacks? Other blacks. We could do the world a lot more good if we focussed on rehabilitating troubled communities instead of parading in this facade that America is racist and police are hunting down blacks in the streets when the reality is only a handful of people are unjustly killed by police a year, most being white.Yes! People on this site need to understand that the BLM movement isn't saying that no other race matters. The BLM movement is protests against police brutality towards black people in the US. To fight against racism and to start putting an end to it, we need to support each other and fight racial injustice, which is why there's Black Lives Matters. It's not to degrade or put down any other race.
George Floyd:
- 5 years in prison for armed robbery.
- Stopped by the police while robbing.
- And being under the influence of meths.
- And resisting the arrest for several minutes.
- While bystanders fucking around.No. I know plenty of things are fucked up in regards to police vs the black community. But ALL LIVES MATTER, not just black lives. As far as I am concerned, they are more racist then anyone they are trying to protest against. When they include everyone and not just black lives, I will support them.
I support robing rich people. I liked the video that they steal from Louis Vuitton. That's about it. I think that racism or police is not the problem. segregation exist in American but they are happy living with the same race. When I was in the US, white people or black people don't talk to me so I hang out with Korean. I had a lot of fun spending time with her. I think that rich people who owns everything destroy environment and they want more and more and exploiting everyone. Just see the people who barely make a living paying rent and food. Something is wrong here.
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