A lot of people on this site don't support BLM and I haven't heard a good reason as to why. I would first like to talk about all the accomplishments blm has achieved so far. first of all police reform is being incorporated In a lot of states, in Massachusetts they are passing a police reform legislation that would create a new independent entity to certify officers and place new limits on use of force by law enforcements. Police officers only needed 880 hours of training where as a massage therapist needs 100, a barber needs 1500, a social worker needs 3200. The police have been an issue for a very long Time. Black lives matter not only fights for the racial injustice of all people they are also doing a lot of things with their funds. Black neighborhoods tend to be the most neighborhoods that suffer for poverty so black lives matter are trying to give more community resources for poverty ridden ares and give money to the education system that suffers from poverty. Black neighborhoods are also most of time way over polices and studies have shown over policing is not good for neighborhoods so blm Is trying to stop that. The LAPD also agreed to redirect 150 million dollars to youth jobs, health initiatives and peace centers. A lot of confederate statues are coming down and being put into museums where they belong. I love and support blm but I would like to know your reasonings to not supporting them. (Also no racists in my comments)These are only a few of the victims of police brutality but there are hundreds more
Why do you or don't you support Black Lives Matter?
in my opinion, it's all about the hype train. Either it's trendy in one's bubble to pledge full allegiance for or against it. Most seem to forget that grey areas exist. BLM was not made with ill intent I'm sure. Yah, maybe over time it didn't handle EVERYTHING too well, but the intent often gets forgotten and the amount of sheer hatred is ridiculous after a while, vs the idiotic blue lives matter which i argue is treated too gently, even though it's equivalent to a Chinese rip off brand.
I think people need to calm the fuck down and learn some damn empathy. You don't need to LOVE BLM, but jesus stop treating it like i's the antichrist or yah, its actions may in fact get violent. Duh.
On the flipside, I take the PeterSchiff approach to this and advise anyone for or against to put a strong emotional stance aside in favor of the logical one, which is economics. There are reasons stuff like BLM are disliked too, and no, not all of them are racist, or fully their fault, but actually quite correct. Examples being that a protest movement, like many protest movements only do so much while putting thousands in danger, since yes. police will be tense as well as counter protesters and media who are there specifically to make them look bad.
Forget that. Why not join together to ask for economics to help everyone? Perhaps protesting the federal banks, poor education system, bailouts, China dick sucking, etc. would be a lot more productive because yes, in the end, many roads of blame ultimately lead to them, not random businesses or supremicists and such. If you ever saw an interveiw with a supremicist, you'd immediately start to shrug your shoulders at white supremicists because they live in a fantasy world with maybe one goal and no actual plan to make anything they want working. Even if they did, you think China would care? No. America at war means taking over is WAY easier and that means black white ALL people will be sucking their dicks equally. They cheer all this chaos on for a reason.
I think police need better training. In other countries cops are trained for years while here in the US they are only trained for 6 months at most. They also need to be held responsible for their actions. Never shoot first unless its confirmed by more then two sources that the target is armed and dangerous. If any innocent or unarmed civilian is killed it requres a serious investigation from a third party. If found guilty the consequences should be they lose any job benefits and have to serve 20 years in prison. If the killing is off duty then they need go be judged like anyone else.
I'm not black, but I am a visible minority. The BLM movement gives me hope that will push back against systemic racism that so many people remain complacent about. BLM means my life matters, too, but recognizes that Black lives continue to be disproportionally endangered.
As a Canadian, I hope strongly that BLM here will also advocate for our First Nations - and they seem to be, which is fantastic. Our police here have more problems about excessive force and escalation tactics against First Nations, and it's essentially baked into the institution of the RCMP. It's disgusting and shameful.
I do hope more is done to regulate and de-militarize policing forces. My city has a fairly good police department, and I've had nothing but positive interactions with them. But I know of many others who aren't so lucky. And our police are heavily overburdened - supplementing them not with heavy firearms but with trained social workers to de-escalate and mediate disputes would be a much more helpful tactic.
Blm is all over the world and I’ve heard about the police brutality In Canada as I’ve lived their for a few years, I hope they open their eyes and fix it soon
I support it. However I think some of the members take things to the extreme. But, there is deep rooted racism in this country and it still lingers today. People of color were discriminated against. They weren’t allowed to own property, and today, people still hold racial bias against them. They get the cops called on them for existing. I literally see neighborhood Facebook pages acting suspicious to them in cars and think they are committing crimes. You have people calling the cops on them for doing daily activities. You have them being KILLED for misdemeanors. I feel like they should have the same starting point that the majority is granted in society. So, yes, I support it.
I think there are way too many fingers being pointed. I don't discriminate against blacks, in fact I am friends with some of them. However if you ask me whether or not I support BLM, I will give you a cold, bitter, and flat no. I'm white and though that's not the reason why I have my opinion, I just want to get that out there so anybody reading this won't think otherwise. Many people blame the police, and I'll admit that there have been several unfortunate events, but have you ever once thought about the police feel? If you were faced with potential threats wouldn't you get nervous too? How long could you stay steady and hold out before getting afraid of getting hurt yourself? Where the real problem lies is with us. Now I know many people are going to fire back at me, but just hear me out. If we never stole or did anything wrong the police would never have to be worried and could be the helpful people we imagined them to be. You may say that blacks have been treated badly, but have you ever once considered how much of the crime rate comes from them? I bet not. If someone keeps on doing the same thing over and over wouldn't you expect them to do the same thing again? If they killed wouldn't you be afraid that they will kill again? This isn't any political crap, I'm talking about the truth. I swear if you had to do what the police have to do, your gun would be out in five seconds flat. It's just that the news media censors so many stuff from us and even lies and twists the truth. That's why I started using Duck Duck Go. I wanted to know what was really going on, and the truth is scary. You may scream Brianna Taylor at me but if her dumb boyfriend didn't fire that gun of his, would anything have happened? Would there be a dead black girl in an apartment? Somehow it is the white people's problem. Most of us don't have anything to do with Black slaves! This is a new generation and not the old slave traders you think we used to be. Oh I remembered my past, let's protest everyone! Why not get some dumb whites to cheer along with us. Wow look at that house, let's burn it down, yet they wonder why guns are pointed at them. I haven't even begun to talk about how much hell America has been going through. They complain about poverty but if you really did some research into this, you would find out that most of them sit at home relying on the government to give them what they need. They get scholarships and everyone's damn sympathy and can't even make it to college. I really applaud you. This isn't about BLM, this is about how some people are so blind to the truth that they could walk right through it all and not even realize what was going on. I don't and won't ever support BLM. I support the fact that all lives matter. Poverty is fine because you will always have the lazy and dumb and the rich shouldn't have to pay for their dirty butts because of their failures. It's funny though about how if you said, "All lives matter" to a black person they'll beat you up. Then the guns are pulled and the news complains about another shot idiot. Give me a break, I've had enough with all this ongoing drama and would be perfectly fine with people just closing their mouths and chilling out about all this.
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OK for start. You are comparing hours of education IE a barber to police work. Are you aware that a barber is not only likely to encounter disease, but in fact it's a given, they will. They have their hands on thousands of people in a short given time. And then they put their hands on other people which means the potential of spreading diseases. A good portion of the hours you've mentioned are used for sanitation which for the most part is irrelevant for the most part to the study of police work. Your problem is you are getting indoctrination and that's very different than education. Education is when you're taught how to do something whereas indoctrination is when you're taught to do or to be something. Indoctrination is the skill of deception widely used by Marxist and communist to bring about communism. Do you want a country of laws or do you want a country where they will disappear you forever and nobody knows where you went or what happened to you, you are assumed dead. You might want to start thinking about that answer now because you are being used to take us in that direction. BLM is a lie, it's a wolf dressed in sheep skin clothing. Ask yourself this. If black lives matter as BLM puts it, then why do they keep voting for the very ones that have not only supported slavery, but strive to keep blacks down causing their communities to go broke etc aka socialist Marxist democrats? A lot of blacks have awoken to this fact not exclusively but especially black men. I have worked in the music industry for many years and if I only had a dime for every time I heard lyrics that talked about weapons and killing each other that I have heard in rap, I would be absolutely very very wealthy right now. In the end, BLM was started by 3 black Marxist feminist that want to bring about Marxism. If black lives mattered to them, they'd be blocking the doors to prevent abortion. And if they don't care about babies IE children, do you actually think they care about any lives including yours? NO, they don't. They have an agenda, the same agenda the democrat party has and that's Marxism and globalism. You better wake up and start looking at the bigger picture, the picture they are purposely hiding from you right under your nose while using you to get what they actually want, which is eugenics, the absolute opposite of their very claims to care about black lives or any lives at all including yours.
Let me quote Rocky Balboa here (as best as I can from memory). "No matter how hard you hit, nothing hits harder than life. But it ain't about how hard you can HIT! Its about how hard you can GET HIT and keep moving forward, how much you can take and keep moving forward, THAT'S HOW WINNING IS DONE. Don't say I'm not where I wanna be because of him or her or ANYBODY. COWARDS DO THAT AND THAT. AIN'T. YOU!!!"
That pretty much sums up my answer to the whole black lives matter business. All politics and Marxism aside i believe those who get being the BLM especially black people just need an excuse to justify their own shortcomings. Its easer to blame the system and cry out racism then to actually look for ways to build around it and actually become somebody.
The simplest of examples is one Barak Hussein Obama. A black man who decided he will not live his life under the system's boot but instead he'll outwork everyone of all races and become someone. And surely enough he became the president of the United States. A black man. No one stood in his way, well some people tried but none succeeded.
If Obama can do it then so can any and every black kid out there they just gotta get rid of the toxic mentality that everyone is out to get them because it's not true and they need to understand that while they may not start on equal grounds to white person nothing is stopping them from surpassing that white person
Tearing down statutes and the policy changes made are at best Band-Aids. Removing a statue stirs a lot of hate on people who see them as historical monuments. They are not viewed as anything to do with slavery. The Confederate flag is another example. The flag had nothing to do with slavery. The flag was a symbol of the Confederate States of America. Slavery is but one of many issues for the Civil War. Before you praise BLM look at the many millions of dollars donated and where they come from. BLM is being used to manipulate people. Large activist investors have personal and political ambitions. They rely on the fact that most people will blindly follow anything made popular without looking at the who or why. Investors do not invest millions unless it is directed to self-serving interests. You got useless policy changes. A popular pacifier is to ban choke holds. Police departments have already begun training for ways to work around the change. You still have the same people doing the same job with emphasis on how to circumvent the changes. The net gain here is trivial and insignificant. If you make a cop change from lead bullits to steel, what do you accomplish.
I'm not for police brutality but also not for Blm, I'm for creating a society where everyone is equal, no discrimination and immigrants get integrated properly.
But its all easy sounding, reality is much more complex. You see in my country in Europe there is racism because immigrants get very well supported by the government. (they even live for free) To the point they get lazy, spoiled, don't work, disrespectful and even refuse to learn our language. They are just here because of money and wellfare. So people see this as very unfair and we get racism. Also most immigrants are poorer families have a less "civilized" lifestyle with drinking, drugs etc and raise their kids in a bad manner. School teachers in my town have difficulties controlling them, language barriers etc. They also get into criminal activities early.
Sadly our educational system is not made for it. Also the dilemma is: put them together with our students and they can't cope up with the learning material, put them together in special schools for immigrants and we get ghettoisation.
Also with incoming immigrants there are gangs, drug trafficing and fights, especially Nigerians. Very fast Africans here are stigmatised as bad and out of place
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I support the message of BLM but I think what America needs now is unity and not division. The movement needs to evolve into a stronger message than simply black victimization because it creates too much animosity towards everyone who is not black.
Everyone already knows that Black Lives Matter. Ordinary citizens are not just randomly killing black people. We cannot let a few news stories blind us into a rage that ignores the reality of society at large. I mean what about the suffering of low income people or homeless people or Native Americans? Making everything only about black people is sowing too much hate and division.
In Seattle's CHAZ/CHOP two black teenagers were killed by drive by shootings. Was this related to cops? NO! Cops were forced out of the zone! In fact when the cops tried to drive the boys to the hospital the protesters pushed them away! The chief of police in Seattle herself is black! Is BLM trying to listen to reason and create unity? I don't think so not anymore. They are operating too much by hate I think.
But at the end of the day I am not Black so it probably doesn't matter wtf I think.
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I mean I don’t know whatever Short answer is I support.
I support BLM through and through. But the fact that I am afraid to say so just shows how ignorance plagues society and people opposed to us want to convince us that they’re correct. But if I share this opinion on an application like this I’ll have spam replies from people harassing me and getting upset because I support black lives. Even though in reality, I wouldn’t care if they didn’t support BLM and would leave them alone. with that being said I’m going to share this and expect to not have people plaguing replies with gnarly garbage.
I support the concept of "Black Lives Matters" because they do matter. I don't support the protest surrounding these current protests masquerading themselves as BLM when all they do is destroy, loot, rob, mob, attack, humiliate and further create a bad image/stereotype involving black people. They are not portraying the message behind the concept.
Don't get me wrong, a lot of the current protesters care about racial inequality and racial prejudice but the way they're trying to portray those thoughts is nothing less than anarchy. Peaceful protesters are sheep led by the extremist liberalists who fuel the fire of the looters and deranged people detached from reality.
I’m not against BLM, I do support it as an entity. What I don’t support is all the protests, vandalism, and segregation. I know that this isn’t specifically done by BLM, it’s more like people taking advantage of the movement. I’m also not a fan of the fact people don’t feel safe to say when they don’t support it. There should not be so much violence, this is not what Martin Luther King taught us.
People can support and not support BLM if they want. It think people think less for themsleves, and care what others think. BLM is a group of black people, who are protesting for their rights. And someone can disagree with that, and have opinions on their own. But the people who deny that racism exist, and are possibly racist themselves, then that's why BLM is protesting. You could start a White Lives Matter movement but not many people would join it, because most people already know that white lives do matter.
Nope. Top two reasons: 1) It's redundant. It's like asking "Do you support 'Water is Wet?' Why the need to make such a statement? Only reason is to imply that anyone who rejects BLM as a political and fundraising organization must be a racist. I'm not playing that game. 2) Look at the examples BLM cites, and all the lost & ruined black lives they never bring up. Why does a black life have to have a 10 page rap sheet attached in order to "Matter". Frankly felons (regardleess of color) play stupid games, and occasionally win stupid prizes.
Ask the more mature black folks who you're good friends with. You'll be surprised when you find out the majority of them will tell you the same thing.
i dont support them for the simple fact they honored a criminal named George floyd and they celebrated his criminal life showing his daughter its ok to break the law cops can't do anything. so we will see her in jail in a few years if they have not got rid of police.
BLM also leads the race riots that have everyone upset and they have also destroyed a Jewish memorial dedicated to the holocaust and not one blm person cares they destroyed a history that was more significant than a few stripes on the back and wearing chains. and they dont care about anything that has nothing to do with blacks.
i associate them with the KKK except there black and if they just wore the robes a burned a few crosses they would be the exact same thing the klan is. but there arrogance blinds them t that fact.
I don't support the organization because they are Marxists. And before you give me the "their-founders-are-Marxist-but-the-organization-itself-is-legit" jargon, I suggest actually reading their website. Marxism is all over the place. Cultural revolution, dismantling the family, class warfare, class struggle, global collectives, it's all there.
It's also a racist organization. Against black people. Why? Because they are more interested in making life worse for everyone than they are in making it better for black people. Translation - Black people, according to BLM, are only capable of economic misery and aren't worth of just treatment.
I don't support BLM.. Because they are a political, Marxist organization.. And you can sit there and make all that stuff sound good, and I don't know where you live, but BLM is not helpin "Black" neighborhoods.. Violence has increased since the riots and lootin.. And other "Black" people are becomin collateral damage because of BLM.. More "Black" died from the BLM "protest than was killed by police in 2019 and 2020.. Not to mention it was started on a lie.. Trayvon Martin's death wasn't even racially motivated.. Notto mention if you actually go to their website, they want to tear down the family, and Western civilization.. And tearin down statues or history is a very Marxist communist idea.. Plus a lot of the statues thethey tore down were of abolitionists.. So yeah..
I support police reform and I support black people getting ahead in life.
I dont support black lives matter because it is LGBT and white liberal based. Trying to break up the black family. They want men to be gay or Trans. No straight black men. They use black men tragedy for Clout. Read their website 80% of people dont. I know lost blacks dont. They want the women to be men and aggressive and on the front line of these protest. Look at the promo art majority of it a female protester. BLM is 3 lesbians lead by some liberal white dude
I don't support the movement but I support black lives. In fact, I support all lives. I'll attach the link to my myTake here which explains more but I just support life. the black lives matter movement is involved in some bad stuff and promotes bad things so I stay away from that but like if someone said to kill this black guy or this white guy I'd shoot myself because why kill other people? I'm not looking at the race. If there was a black-run business or a white-run business that I could choose to go to I'd choose whatever business does the better job/has a better product. to me, the inside of a person matters, not the outside (which applies to dating for me too but of course the person has to look presentable lol). I hope that makes sense. #AllLifeMatters
Thank you for your opinion ! Although black lives isn’t saying all lives don’t matter, it’s just saying we need to focus on one particular topic right now. It’s like if there’s 5 kids and one needs a bandaid, were not going to give all 5 a bandaid were only going to give the one that needs it.
yeah of course like but that's the thing. I'm not saying that we should disregard the one kid I'm saying that we also need to be equal about what's happening to other kids. like the discrimination against Asians? terrible. whites? bad (— I can be called a racist for existing as a white person. like umm what? why?). latinos or hispanics? they're seen as gangsters and trouble makers. we need to realize as a society that just the way a person looks isn't how they are as a person. that's why i say all life matters because I'm not looking at a person's skin but what happened to them. in my myTake I continue to explain that how George Floyd was killed was undeniably cruel and unreasonable but not because he was a black person but because he was a human being. to me this makes sense but when people say speak out or else you are siding with the oppressor I can't or else I'll just be hated on for expressing my opinion that i care about life. it's a double-ended sword for me. the key word here is that i'm not saying lives but life. human life is valuable to me.
I support the movement, like why wouldn't I there's no reason for me not to. Also for the ones saying "tHeY KiLl eEch oThEr" yea we do end up killing our own people but those people are not in a position where they are suppose to PROTECT and SERVE.
I didn't support JLM after the Nazis gassed them all in world war 2. I also didn't support PLM after they were utterly wiped out by a succession of Norse, Roman, and English invaders. I didn't support ULM after they were put in Chinese concentration camps because. I didn't support ILM after the Spanish conquistadors decimated their cultures and turned them all into christians. I didn't support ZLM after the Muslims wiped them out and forced the rest to become muslims. So why would I support BLM?
I'll tell you why I don't support it. Blacks claim that their lives matter but then turn around and have an abortion - like their black children's lives don't seem to matter to them so I'm going to run with that. And blacks are known to be deadbeat dads. Have a baby and then disappear. I guess their families lives don't matter either. So if black doesn't care about blacks then why should we care? I think there are more blacks killed by blacks than by whites. How come when a white person is killed by a black there is no white lives matter protests? Half of these people protesting don't give a rat's ass either way, they just like causing dissention and disharmony along with the option of looting and burning because they are assholes and like to cause trouble.
1. All people of all races have abortions 2. Black people are not known to be dead beat dad, that’s stereotyping 40 million people 3. Of course black people care about black people, you make no sense 4. This is the thing, racially motivated murders and different from regular murder so that’s why there’s not protest for every murder 5. The people who take time out of their day to stand for a cause and potentially risked their life, so many people have died going out and protesting to fight against injustice, so of course they care. Also what do mean “they claim their life matters” are you implying that black lives don’t matter?
All lives matter - they don't get the monopoly on that! They protest when a black is killed but if a white person dies in the same way you never hear squat about it. And how many of each race are killed when they are battling with the police instead of submitting to their questions if they are not doing anything wrong?
Well then they should go and protest in Germany where Hitler killed 6 million Jews that was racially motivated. I can use other examples too. The point is there are many races and colors of skin that get discriminated against or killed, not just blacks. Yet riots only seem to occur when a black dies. That in itself is racism.
You clearly don’t know what racism is if you think people protesting a racially motivated murder is racism, different forms of racism exists all over the world, but we’re talking about American here and racism is still a prominent from in our scientific for MANY races
Blm doesn’t protest for one black life, get your facts straight, you obviously didn’t know that blm was founded in 2013. And there have been many protests for Jewish people in many countries including America, some Jewish people even take part in the blm protest and protest for themselves and blm.
Well right now kids are being killed and they are not all black kids. These protests are getting entirely out of hand. Now it getting even worse with attempted lynching's and drive by shootings. The BLM idiots opened a can of worms the size of the worms on "Tremors" and it doesn't look like it's cooling off any.
Your right two police officers have killed the baby of two black woman, one by stomping on her stomach and one by taser on her stomach and guess what those police officer haven’t been charged for murder, didn’t the lives of those two babble matter ? And yes a little boy who was white was recently killed by police brutality. And yes black people have been found hanged off of trees and the police couldn’t give a shit so they ruled it as a suicide. And yes racist Idiots are going to blm Protest and running over people. A group of white men cornered and innocent white teenage girl and they beat her up for protesting and guess what? A cop was right next to her and did nothing.
For the same reason I don't support Feminists. Good initial concept developed and fought for by rational people. Bunch of sheeple jump on the bandwagon and now you have a mob not an organization.
That is not to say "nothing good can come of it," police reform could be beneficial; but DEFUND the police? Please...
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