A lot of people on this site don't support BLM and I haven't heard a good reason as to why. I would first like to talk about all the accomplishments blm has achieved so far. first of all police reform is being incorporated In a lot of states, in Massachusetts they are passing a police reform legislation that would create a new independent entity to certify officers and place new limits on use of force by law enforcements. Police officers only needed 880 hours of training where as a massage therapist needs 100, a barber needs 1500, a social worker needs 3200. The police have been an issue for a very long Time. Black lives matter not only fights for the racial injustice of all people they are also doing a lot of things with their funds. Black neighborhoods tend to be the most neighborhoods that suffer for poverty so black lives matter are trying to give more community resources for poverty ridden ares and give money to the education system that suffers from poverty. Black neighborhoods are also most of time way over polices and studies have shown over policing is not good for neighborhoods so blm Is trying to stop that. The LAPD also agreed to redirect 150 million dollars to youth jobs, health initiatives and peace centers. A lot of confederate statues are coming down and being put into museums where they belong. I love and support blm but I would like to know your reasonings to not supporting them. (Also no racists in my comments)These are only a few of the victims of police brutality but there are hundreds more
Why do you or don't you support Black Lives Matter?
in my opinion, it's all about the hype train. Either it's trendy in one's bubble to pledge full allegiance for or against it. Most seem to forget that grey areas exist. BLM was not made with ill intent I'm sure. Yah, maybe over time it didn't handle EVERYTHING too well, but the intent often gets forgotten and the amount of sheer hatred is ridiculous after a while, vs the idiotic blue lives matter which i argue is treated too gently, even though it's equivalent to a Chinese rip off brand.
I think people need to calm the fuck down and learn some damn empathy. You don't need to LOVE BLM, but jesus stop treating it like i's the antichrist or yah, its actions may in fact get violent. Duh.
On the flipside, I take the PeterSchiff approach to this and advise anyone for or against to put a strong emotional stance aside in favor of the logical one, which is economics. There are reasons stuff like BLM are disliked too, and no, not all of them are racist, or fully their fault, but actually quite correct. Examples being that a protest movement, like many protest movements only do so much while putting thousands in danger, since yes. police will be tense as well as counter protesters and media who are there specifically to make them look bad.
Forget that. Why not join together to ask for economics to help everyone? Perhaps protesting the federal banks, poor education system, bailouts, China dick sucking, etc. would be a lot more productive because yes, in the end, many roads of blame ultimately lead to them, not random businesses or supremicists and such. If you ever saw an interveiw with a supremicist, you'd immediately start to shrug your shoulders at white supremicists because they live in a fantasy world with maybe one goal and no actual plan to make anything they want working. Even if they did, you think China would care? No. America at war means taking over is WAY easier and that means black white ALL people will be sucking their dicks equally. They cheer all this chaos on for a reason.
I think police need better training. In other countries cops are trained for years while here in the US they are only trained for 6 months at most. They also need to be held responsible for their actions. Never shoot first unless its confirmed by more then two sources that the target is armed and dangerous. If any innocent or unarmed civilian is killed it requres a serious investigation from a third party. If found guilty the consequences should be they lose any job benefits and have to serve 20 years in prison. If the killing is off duty then they need go be judged like anyone else.
I'm not black, but I am a visible minority. The BLM movement gives me hope that will push back against systemic racism that so many people remain complacent about. BLM means my life matters, too, but recognizes that Black lives continue to be disproportionally endangered.
As a Canadian, I hope strongly that BLM here will also advocate for our First Nations - and they seem to be, which is fantastic. Our police here have more problems about excessive force and escalation tactics against First Nations, and it's essentially baked into the institution of the RCMP. It's disgusting and shameful.
I do hope more is done to regulate and de-militarize policing forces. My city has a fairly good police department, and I've had nothing but positive interactions with them. But I know of many others who aren't so lucky. And our police are heavily overburdened - supplementing them not with heavy firearms but with trained social workers to de-escalate and mediate disputes would be a much more helpful tactic.
Blm is all over the world and I’ve heard about the police brutality In Canada as I’ve lived their for a few years, I hope they open their eyes and fix it soon
I support it. However I think some of the members take things to the extreme. But, there is deep rooted racism in this country and it still lingers today. People of color were discriminated against. They weren’t allowed to own property, and today, people still hold racial bias against them. They get the cops called on them for existing. I literally see neighborhood Facebook pages acting suspicious to them in cars and think they are committing crimes. You have people calling the cops on them for doing daily activities. You have them being KILLED for misdemeanors. I feel like they should have the same starting point that the majority is granted in society. So, yes, I support it.
I think there are way too many fingers being pointed. I don't discriminate against blacks, in fact I am friends with some of them. However if you ask me whether or not I support BLM, I will give you a cold, bitter, and flat no. I'm white and though that's not the reason why I have my opinion, I just want to get that out there so anybody reading this won't think otherwise. Many people blame the police, and I'll admit that there have been several unfortunate events, but have you ever once thought about the police feel? If you were faced with potential threats wouldn't you get nervous too? How long could you stay steady and hold out before getting afraid of getting hurt yourself? Where the real problem lies is with us. Now I know many people are going to fire back at me, but just hear me out. If we never stole or did anything wrong the police would never have to be worried and could be the helpful people we imagined them to be. You may say that blacks have been treated badly, but have you ever once considered how much of the crime rate comes from them? I bet not. If someone keeps on doing the same thing over and over wouldn't you expect them to do the same thing again? If they killed wouldn't you be afraid that they will kill again? This isn't any political crap, I'm talking about the truth. I swear if you had to do what the police have to do, your gun would be out in five seconds flat. It's just that the news media censors so many stuff from us and even lies and twists the truth. That's why I started using Duck Duck Go. I wanted to know what was really going on, and the truth is scary. You may scream Brianna Taylor at me but if her dumb boyfriend didn't fire that gun of his, would anything have happened? Would there be a dead black girl in an apartment? Somehow it is the white people's problem. Most of us don't have anything to do with Black slaves! This is a new generation and not the old slave traders you think we used to be. Oh I remembered my past, let's protest everyone! Why not get some dumb whites to cheer along with us. Wow look at that house, let's burn it down, yet they wonder why guns are pointed at them. I haven't even begun to talk about how much hell America has been going through. They complain about poverty but if you really did some research into this, you would find out that most of them sit at home relying on the government to give them what they need. They get scholarships and everyone's damn sympathy and can't even make it to college. I really applaud you. This isn't about BLM, this is about how some people are so blind to the truth that they could walk right through it all and not even realize what was going on. I don't and won't ever support BLM. I support the fact that all lives matter. Poverty is fine because you will always have the lazy and dumb and the rich shouldn't have to pay for their dirty butts because of their failures. It's funny though about how if you said, "All lives matter" to a black person they'll beat you up. Then the guns are pulled and the news complains about another shot idiot. Give me a break, I've had enough with all this ongoing drama and would be perfectly fine with people just closing their mouths and chilling out about all this.
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OK for start. You are comparing hours of education IE a barber to police work. Are you aware that a barber is not only likely to encounter disease, but in fact it's a given, they will. They have their hands on thousands of people in a short given time. And then they put their hands on other people which means the potential of spreading diseases. A good portion of the hours you've mentioned are used for sanitation which for the most part is irrelevant for the most part to the study of police work. Your problem is you are getting indoctrination and that's very different than education. Education is when you're taught how to do something whereas indoctrination is when you're taught to do or to be something. Indoctrination is the skill of deception widely used by Marxist and communist to bring about communism. Do you want a country of laws or do you want a country where they will disappear you forever and nobody knows where you went or what happened to you, you are assumed dead. You might want to start thinking about that answer now because you are being used to take us in that direction. BLM is a lie, it's a wolf dressed in sheep skin clothing. Ask yourself this. If black lives matter as BLM puts it, then why do they keep voting for the very ones that have not only supported slavery, but strive to keep blacks down causing their communities to go broke etc aka socialist Marxist democrats? A lot of blacks have awoken to this fact not exclusively but especially black men. I have worked in the music industry for many years and if I only had a dime for every time I heard lyrics that talked about weapons and killing each other that I have heard in rap, I would be absolutely very very wealthy right now. In the end, BLM was started by 3 black Marxist feminist that want to bring about Marxism. If black lives mattered to them, they'd be blocking the doors to prevent abortion. And if they don't care about babies IE children, do you actually think they care about any lives including yours? NO, they don't. They have an agenda, the same agenda the democrat party has and that's Marxism and globalism. You better wake up and start looking at the bigger picture, the picture they are purposely hiding from you right under your nose while using you to get what they actually want, which is eugenics, the absolute opposite of their very claims to care about black lives or any lives at all including yours.
Let me quote Rocky Balboa here (as best as I can from memory). "No matter how hard you hit, nothing hits harder than life. But it ain't about how hard you can HIT! Its about how hard you can GET HIT and keep moving forward, how much you can take and keep moving forward, THAT'S HOW WINNING IS DONE. Don't say I'm not where I wanna be because of him or her or ANYBODY. COWARDS DO THAT AND THAT. AIN'T. YOU!!!"
That pretty much sums up my answer to the whole black lives matter business. All politics and Marxism aside i believe those who get being the BLM especially black people just need an excuse to justify their own shortcomings. Its easer to blame the system and cry out racism then to actually look for ways to build around it and actually become somebody.
The simplest of examples is one Barak Hussein Obama. A black man who decided he will not live his life under the system's boot but instead he'll outwork everyone of all races and become someone. And surely enough he became the president of the United States. A black man. No one stood in his way, well some people tried but none succeeded.
If Obama can do it then so can any and every black kid out there they just gotta get rid of the toxic mentality that everyone is out to get them because it's not true and they need to understand that while they may not start on equal grounds to white person nothing is stopping them from surpassing that white person
I'm not for police brutality but also not for Blm, I'm for creating a society where everyone is equal, no discrimination and immigrants get integrated properly.
But its all easy sounding, reality is much more complex. You see in my country in Europe there is racism because immigrants get very well supported by the government. (they even live for free) To the point they get lazy, spoiled, don't work, disrespectful and even refuse to learn our language. They are just here because of money and wellfare. So people see this as very unfair and we get racism. Also most immigrants are poorer families have a less "civilized" lifestyle with drinking, drugs etc and raise their kids in a bad manner. School teachers in my town have difficulties controlling them, language barriers etc. They also get into criminal activities early.
Sadly our educational system is not made for it. Also the dilemma is: put them together with our students and they can't cope up with the learning material, put them together in special schools for immigrants and we get ghettoisation.
Also with incoming immigrants there are gangs, drug trafficing and fights, especially Nigerians. Very fast Africans here are stigmatised as bad and out of place
Tearing down statutes and the policy changes made are at best Band-Aids. Removing a statue stirs a lot of hate on people who see them as historical monuments. They are not viewed as anything to do with slavery. The Confederate flag is another example. The flag had nothing to do with slavery. The flag was a symbol of the Confederate States of America. Slavery is but one of many issues for the Civil War. Before you praise BLM look at the many millions of dollars donated and where they come from. BLM is being used to manipulate people. Large activist investors have personal and political ambitions. They rely on the fact that most people will blindly follow anything made popular without looking at the who or why. Investors do not invest millions unless it is directed to self-serving interests. You got useless policy changes. A popular pacifier is to ban choke holds. Police departments have already begun training for ways to work around the change. You still have the same people doing the same job with emphasis on how to circumvent the changes. The net gain here is trivial and insignificant. If you make a cop change from lead bullits to steel, what do you accomplish.
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I support the message of BLM but I think what America needs now is unity and not division. The movement needs to evolve into a stronger message than simply black victimization because it creates too much animosity towards everyone who is not black.
Everyone already knows that Black Lives Matter. Ordinary citizens are not just randomly killing black people. We cannot let a few news stories blind us into a rage that ignores the reality of society at large. I mean what about the suffering of low income people or homeless people or Native Americans? Making everything only about black people is sowing too much hate and division.
In Seattle's CHAZ/CHOP two black teenagers were killed by drive by shootings. Was this related to cops? NO! Cops were forced out of the zone! In fact when the cops tried to drive the boys to the hospital the protesters pushed them away! The chief of police in Seattle herself is black! Is BLM trying to listen to reason and create unity? I don't think so not anymore. They are operating too much by hate I think.
But at the end of the day I am not Black so it probably doesn't matter wtf I think.
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I mean I don’t know whatever Short answer is I support.
I support BLM through and through. But the fact that I am afraid to say so just shows how ignorance plagues society and people opposed to us want to convince us that they’re correct. But if I share this opinion on an application like this I’ll have spam replies from people harassing me and getting upset because I support black lives. Even though in reality, I wouldn’t care if they didn’t support BLM and would leave them alone. with that being said I’m going to share this and expect to not have people plaguing replies with gnarly garbage.
I support the concept of "Black Lives Matters" because they do matter. I don't support the protest surrounding these current protests masquerading themselves as BLM when all they do is destroy, loot, rob, mob, attack, humiliate and further create a bad image/stereotype involving black people. They are not portraying the message behind the concept.
Don't get me wrong, a lot of the current protesters care about racial inequality and racial prejudice but the way they're trying to portray those thoughts is nothing less than anarchy. Peaceful protesters are sheep led by the extremist liberalists who fuel the fire of the looters and deranged people detached from reality.
I’m not against BLM, I do support it as an entity. What I don’t support is all the protests, vandalism, and segregation. I know that this isn’t specifically done by BLM, it’s more like people taking advantage of the movement. I’m also not a fan of the fact people don’t feel safe to say when they don’t support it. There should not be so much violence, this is not what Martin Luther King taught us.
People can support and not support BLM if they want. It think people think less for themsleves, and care what others think. BLM is a group of black people, who are protesting for their rights. And someone can disagree with that, and have opinions on their own. But the people who deny that racism exist, and are possibly racist themselves, then that's why BLM is protesting. You could start a White Lives Matter movement but not many people would join it, because most people already know that white lives do matter.
Nope. Top two reasons: 1) It's redundant. It's like asking "Do you support 'Water is Wet?' Why the need to make such a statement? Only reason is to imply that anyone who rejects BLM as a political and fundraising organization must be a racist. I'm not playing that game. 2) Look at the examples BLM cites, and all the lost & ruined black lives they never bring up. Why does a black life have to have a 10 page rap sheet attached in order to "Matter". Frankly felons (regardleess of color) play stupid games, and occasionally win stupid prizes.
Ask the more mature black folks who you're good friends with. You'll be surprised when you find out the majority of them will tell you the same thing.
i dont support them for the simple fact they honored a criminal named George floyd and they celebrated his criminal life showing his daughter its ok to break the law cops can't do anything. so we will see her in jail in a few years if they have not got rid of police.
BLM also leads the race riots that have everyone upset and they have also destroyed a Jewish memorial dedicated to the holocaust and not one blm person cares they destroyed a history that was more significant than a few stripes on the back and wearing chains. and they dont care about anything that has nothing to do with blacks.
i associate them with the KKK except there black and if they just wore the robes a burned a few crosses they would be the exact same thing the klan is. but there arrogance blinds them t that fact.
I support police reform and I support black people getting ahead in life.
I dont support black lives matter because it is LGBT and white liberal based. Trying to break up the black family. They want men to be gay or Trans. No straight black men. They use black men tragedy for Clout. Read their website 80% of people dont. I know lost blacks dont. They want the women to be men and aggressive and on the front line of these protest. Look at the promo art majority of it a female protester. BLM is 3 lesbians lead by some liberal white dude
I don't support the organization because they are Marxists. And before you give me the "their-founders-are-Marxist-but-the-organization-itself-is-legit" jargon, I suggest actually reading their website. Marxism is all over the place. Cultural revolution, dismantling the family, class warfare, class struggle, global collectives, it's all there.
It's also a racist organization. Against black people. Why? Because they are more interested in making life worse for everyone than they are in making it better for black people. Translation - Black people, according to BLM, are only capable of economic misery and aren't worth of just treatment.
I don't support BLM.. Because they are a political, Marxist organization.. And you can sit there and make all that stuff sound good, and I don't know where you live, but BLM is not helpin "Black" neighborhoods.. Violence has increased since the riots and lootin.. And other "Black" people are becomin collateral damage because of BLM.. More "Black" died from the BLM "protest than was killed by police in 2019 and 2020.. Not to mention it was started on a lie.. Trayvon Martin's death wasn't even racially motivated.. Notto mention if you actually go to their website, they want to tear down the family, and Western civilization.. And tearin down statues or history is a very Marxist communist idea.. Plus a lot of the statues thethey tore down were of abolitionists.. So yeah..
I don't support the movement but I support black lives. In fact, I support all lives. I'll attach the link to my myTake here which explains more but I just support life. the black lives matter movement is involved in some bad stuff and promotes bad things so I stay away from that but like if someone said to kill this black guy or this white guy I'd shoot myself because why kill other people? I'm not looking at the race. If there was a black-run business or a white-run business that I could choose to go to I'd choose whatever business does the better job/has a better product. to me, the inside of a person matters, not the outside (which applies to dating for me too but of course the person has to look presentable lol). I hope that makes sense. #AllLifeMatters
Thank you for your opinion ! Although black lives isn’t saying all lives don’t matter, it’s just saying we need to focus on one particular topic right now. It’s like if there’s 5 kids and one needs a bandaid, were not going to give all 5 a bandaid were only going to give the one that needs it.
yeah of course like but that's the thing. I'm not saying that we should disregard the one kid I'm saying that we also need to be equal about what's happening to other kids. like the discrimination against Asians? terrible. whites? bad (— I can be called a racist for existing as a white person. like umm what? why?). latinos or hispanics? they're seen as gangsters and trouble makers. we need to realize as a society that just the way a person looks isn't how they are as a person. that's why i say all life matters because I'm not looking at a person's skin but what happened to them. in my myTake I continue to explain that how George Floyd was killed was undeniably cruel and unreasonable but not because he was a black person but because he was a human being. to me this makes sense but when people say speak out or else you are siding with the oppressor I can't or else I'll just be hated on for expressing my opinion that i care about life. it's a double-ended sword for me. the key word here is that i'm not saying lives but life. human life is valuable to me.
I support the movement, like why wouldn't I there's no reason for me not to. Also for the ones saying "tHeY KiLl eEch oThEr" yea we do end up killing our own people but those people are not in a position where they are suppose to PROTECT and SERVE.
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BLM is a front group to funnel money to the DNC; most of the donations that are going to them are first redirected to two other umbrella organizations that siphon off what they need to fund other DNC campaigns and initiatives and give BLM the scraps. It is sickening that the DNC is taking advantage of wholesome Americans desire to help solve racial injustice in order to win elections Iowa.
Actually that has been debunked many times, the money that goes to blm has not EVER went to dnc, there have already been investigation and the head of the organization have already state none goes to dnc
Not directly it first goes to ActBlue then to Thousand Currents; both of which report receiving donations for BLM but then report less donated to BLM. Act Blue primarily funds Democratic campaigns and Thousand Currents primarily funds DNC initiatives.
Act blue is a platform for people to donate to campaign and causes, it moves donations to organizations and doesn’t actually pocket any of the money, Republicans actually have their own processing tool as well called wind red, on both windred and act blue, donation to directly to its recipients, many people have already fact checked that act blue is not taking money from blm to give to democratic campaigns, you can go through fec reports to check this or literally google it, this information I easily accessed
I didn't support JLM after the Nazis gassed them all in world war 2. I also didn't support PLM after they were utterly wiped out by a succession of Norse, Roman, and English invaders. I didn't support ULM after they were put in Chinese concentration camps because. I didn't support ILM after the Spanish conquistadors decimated their cultures and turned them all into christians. I didn't support ZLM after the Muslims wiped them out and forced the rest to become muslims. So why would I support BLM?
I'll tell you why I don't support it. Blacks claim that their lives matter but then turn around and have an abortion - like their black children's lives don't seem to matter to them so I'm going to run with that. And blacks are known to be deadbeat dads. Have a baby and then disappear. I guess their families lives don't matter either. So if black doesn't care about blacks then why should we care? I think there are more blacks killed by blacks than by whites. How come when a white person is killed by a black there is no white lives matter protests? Half of these people protesting don't give a rat's ass either way, they just like causing dissention and disharmony along with the option of looting and burning because they are assholes and like to cause trouble.
1. All people of all races have abortions 2. Black people are not known to be dead beat dad, that’s stereotyping 40 million people 3. Of course black people care about black people, you make no sense 4. This is the thing, racially motivated murders and different from regular murder so that’s why there’s not protest for every murder 5. The people who take time out of their day to stand for a cause and potentially risked their life, so many people have died going out and protesting to fight against injustice, so of course they care. Also what do mean “they claim their life matters” are you implying that black lives don’t matter?
All lives matter - they don't get the monopoly on that! They protest when a black is killed but if a white person dies in the same way you never hear squat about it. And how many of each race are killed when they are battling with the police instead of submitting to their questions if they are not doing anything wrong?
Well then they should go and protest in Germany where Hitler killed 6 million Jews that was racially motivated. I can use other examples too. The point is there are many races and colors of skin that get discriminated against or killed, not just blacks. Yet riots only seem to occur when a black dies. That in itself is racism.
You clearly don’t know what racism is if you think people protesting a racially motivated murder is racism, different forms of racism exists all over the world, but we’re talking about American here and racism is still a prominent from in our scientific for MANY races
Blm doesn’t protest for one black life, get your facts straight, you obviously didn’t know that blm was founded in 2013. And there have been many protests for Jewish people in many countries including America, some Jewish people even take part in the blm protest and protest for themselves and blm.
Well right now kids are being killed and they are not all black kids. These protests are getting entirely out of hand. Now it getting even worse with attempted lynching's and drive by shootings. The BLM idiots opened a can of worms the size of the worms on "Tremors" and it doesn't look like it's cooling off any.
Your right two police officers have killed the baby of two black woman, one by stomping on her stomach and one by taser on her stomach and guess what those police officer haven’t been charged for murder, didn’t the lives of those two babble matter ? And yes a little boy who was white was recently killed by police brutality. And yes black people have been found hanged off of trees and the police couldn’t give a shit so they ruled it as a suicide. And yes racist Idiots are going to blm Protest and running over people. A group of white men cornered and innocent white teenage girl and they beat her up for protesting and guess what? A cop was right next to her and did nothing.
For the same reason I don't support Feminists. Good initial concept developed and fought for by rational people. Bunch of sheeple jump on the bandwagon and now you have a mob not an organization.
That is not to say "nothing good can come of it," police reform could be beneficial; but DEFUND the police? Please...
You're only looking at the school house where they learn the "basics" of the job, everyone conveniently leaves out the years of on the job training that you cannot realistically create in a classroom type environment. Most departments have a training Sgt that specializes in making sure the new officer meets the criteria. Think of it as an apprenticeship like you would see with an electrician, but without the respect from the community.
As for BLM, that group is racist as hell. If "black lives mattered," they would be fighting to put an end to gang violence and the useless killing that occurs every day in black majority areas where cops aren't even involved. The group BLM only cares about when white cops hurt or kill black people. Every other incident involving a black person dying, you don't hear a peep from them. It's BS, they know it, we know it. Just move on.
I have a hard time supporting BLM because of all the crappy people associated with BLM, their cult mentality, and ideological differences. I'm sure we would find common ground on a lot of issues because I am left leaning, but there would also be a lot of disagreement. Especially when it comes to why and how we should do or change something.
Because BLACK LIVES MATTER does not equal ALL BLACK LIVES MATTER. For example, if you are a black police officer, a black conservative, or anything that contradicts the principles of BLM, then you are not part of it. I believe BLM are hypocrites on so many levels.
I support blm. It saddens me to see how trump has managed to misconstrue the purpose of the organization and has brainwashed people into believing that it is about something that it is not
Do I believe white lives matter? Yes, but I do not support it as a movement only because it’s very existence is in direct retaliation against the blm movement.
I’m sorry. I didn’t realize white people were enslaved in this country. No? Oh I forgot they had to deal with Jim Crow laws? Oh, they didn’t? Surely they too didn’t get the right to vote until the 1960s? Oh wow, they had it before? And I’m sure they didn’t have to deal with a racist law enforcement system perpetuating a belief that they were inferior and locking them up at disproportionate rates? Oh, no? They didn’t have to deal with that either? White lives have always freaking mattered and many of those white lives intentionally kept minorities from mattering and still do. So white lives matter is an unnecessary movement.
If “White lives have always freaking mattered” then how come more white people are killed by blacks than the other way around? And why are you using the past as an indicator of the present? We’ve largely moved past that as a nation.
Yes, it is a problem, but do you not believe that a police officer killing an unarmed black civilian who isn’t even resisting arrest is a problem? That’s what blm addresses. It is specifically addressing the way the cops treat blacks which historically has been unequal. What may appear to be things of the past are still perpetuated in today’s society. Our modern institutions were created by the racists who created Jim Crow. When Jim Crow ended, racism didn’t end. There were people pissed to think of blacks as having equal rights as them. So people had to disguise racism to keep it going, the criminal justice system being one of those places. Blm doesn’t attempt to solve all the problems of the world. It specifically highlights this particular issue and says to a country with many hidden racists that black lives do in fact matter
I agree with you that racism is still ongoing in certain places. But it is not a federal issue as BLM suggests. Democrat led cities deflect the blame on our country to excuse from their own failures of Governance. Also Police Brutality does affect every demographic. Make no mistake. My issue with BLM is that they don’t protest when unarmed white people are killed by police. Does the well being of my race suddenly not matter to these people? I understand they have no problem indoctrinating white people into supporting their agenda but I’m left defenseless.
Looking at the words coming from the president of the United States, (calling blm a terrorist group but neo-nazis fine people, defending the confederate flag and statues which honor a group of traitors who were angry because they wanted to own black people) this is a federal issue, and watching as the gop says nothing, that shows that this is probably a sickness within the Republican Party. I don’t believe democrat led cities are deflecting the blame. I believe they’re the only ones who are actually calling it out. Republican leaders aren’t even willing to do that much. And unarmed white people being killed may be an issue but it definitely isn’t to the same extent that it happens to unarmed blacks. Look at the way police officers who had Dylan roof in custody took a person who just killed 9 people to freaking Burger King because he was hungry. Meanwhile with George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Elijah McClain they never even killed anyone and they didn’t even survive their encounter with the cops. For too long being black has been synonymous with being a criminal or being guilty and blm was created to address that issue. White people do not have that same issue because people usually assume your innocence or when something wrong happens, people blame it on mental health issues. Typically white people serve lighter sentences even when they commit the same crime as blacks, or even worse. So the issue, again, is an issue within our institution as a whole. It unfairly favors one group at the disadvantage of another. I get the impulse to try and make this about you, but it isn’t about you. White people may have a problem but it historically has not impacted you the same way that this has impacted blacks. I’m very proud and grateful for of all the white people who have taken the time to educate themselves on this issue and fight for this cause. And if you feel defenseless, imagine how black people would feel if they hadn’t started blm
You can’t claim something isn’t true but then not explain what makes it false. I have credible sources to back up everything that I said. I apologize if this isn’t the information that your news sources have been spinning to you (I hope you don’t watch Fox because they literally aren’t news. They’re propaganda), but just because you may not have learned this before, it does not make me delusional. Please take some time to educate yourself on what the blm movement is about beyond what trump tells you or take some time to learn about how minorities are treated in America, especially by cops. I highly recommend the documentary 13th on Netflix. Anyway, you take care sweetie.
“You can’t claim something isn’t true but then not explain what makes it false.” But I just did. “I have credible sources to back up everything that I said.” Hmm haven’t see any. Saying things doesn’t make it true either.
They have shown to be extremely racists, violent, totalitarian, they don't give a shit about anything that they can't use to get more power. Are they protesting for the huge majority of black people killed by their own? No. Are they protesting for white people killed by police, or by black people? No. Are they protesting for true equality? Which would mean renouncing to "affirmative" action discriminating white and Asian, the freedom of saying whatever they want while being completely protected by every social medias, and medias in general. No, they don't.
The truth is BLM is not a movement for equality. It's a racist and supremacist movement that has one purpose: attacking white people on everything. They don't want equality. They want privileges, they want white people to give everything they have and pay for everything.
1. They have. It shown to be racist or violent 2. They actually are trying to fix black on black crime but that’s not a valid point because all races commit crimes 3. They are protesting police brutality for ALL races and the racially motivated deaths of black people 4. Affirmative action doesn’t discriminate against any races but even getting rid of affirmative action would not do or change anything in applying to colleges or getting a job 5. The media is only showing blm as a violent group even though there have been thousands of peaceful protests have taken and multiple changes have been done, the news is very quite about it. 6. The truth is blm is a group fighting for police brutality, systematic racism, the education and healthcare system and black on black crime.
I don’t support any movement that destroys more than it creates. What have BLM contributed to society other than a few murals of a CRIMINAL, let’s not forget? All I hear about is destruction/looting, censorship and even more people being killed in the protests. Their goal is to “end racism”, which is just as likely to be achieved as eliminating murder 🤦🏻♂️
It's not really a racial issue. A lot of white people are killed by the cops and you don't even hear about it. Making it to be white vs. black is stupid. BLM is an organisation ran by self proclaimed Marxists. A lot of their supporters are saying that we should abolish prisons. Many of them are hypocrites. They are marching on the streets, tens of thousands of people half of them without masks, when just over a month ago they were calling people who wanna go to a church terrorists.
Because Black Lives Matter is a Communist organisation that is carrying out the Communist imperative to destroy the police as a prerequisite to allow a Communist takeover to take place. If blacks in the US do not want to be killed by police, or be most of the prison population, they should try not committing crimes. Figures published by the US Justice Department tell the true story, which is the opposite of what the useful idiots of Black Lives Matter screech.
He literally just told you where to find factual evidence 🤦♂️. And I swear to god you Liberals hand the word “racist” out like it’s fuckin candy. It’s not racist if it’s the truth. He’s not blaming them for being killed. The majority of black deaths from police stem from a violent act where that officer had his life on the line or it was justified. You don’t even bother reading the post before you jump to calling the man racist. Shame on you...
@scarlett774 You said that US Justice Department figures were not 'factual evidence'. Are you really that stupid? Official statistics are as real as it gets. When a black person is killed while committing a crime, that black person is 100 per cent responsible for what happens to them. It was their choice to commit the crime.
From the Washington Times: "Today blacks are about 13 percent of the population and continue to be responsible for an inordinate amount of crime. Between 1976 and 2005 blacks committed more than half of all murders in the United States. The black arrest rate for most offenses — including robbery, aggravated assault and property crimes — is still typically two to three times their representation in the population. Blacks as a group are also overrepresented among persons arrested for so-called white-collar crimes such as counterfeiting, fraud and embezzlement. And blaming this decades-long, well-documented trend on racist cops, prosecutors, judges, sentencing guidelines and drug laws doesn’t cut it as a plausible explanation." www.washingtontimes.com/.../
You having nothing to prove that blm is a community organization and you also have nothing that proves that black people would stop getting killed by the police if they stopped committing crimes.
@scarlett774 Black Lives Matter is a Communist organisation. New York Post: "Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological foundation, according to a report." nypost.com/.../ The United Midwest: "Black Lives Matter was created as a part of the Chinese communist organization operating in the United States called Freedom Road Socialist Organization." www.theunitedwest.org/.../
So you're basically saying black people should stay in there lane based off of what the same way black people were slaves or when black people was tested on in the early 60s or when white people build this world yea it's true there's only 10% of us or 12% witch ever it is who commit crimes an that but who portrait us to make it seem that way I'm 18 now my guy I don't plan on going to jail, get a girl pregnant, raping someone, murder, Rob a gas station an etc if you're saying black people should stop committing crimes than tbh stop labeling us as we're something brand new that came out of a box an fucking hopped in some weird shit that white people build
@HappyAccident If you want to know why the US black community went to Hell in a handbasket during the 1960s and has been going down hill since, here is what the Democrats et al. do not want you to know. Before Lyndon Johnson's Great Society (the welfare state), black crime and social indicators were similar to those of the white population. Black entrepreneurs were increasing the number of jobs and general prosperity among blacks. If you look up photographs of black neighbourhoods during the 1950s and early 1960s will be shocked by difference, compared to what they look like today. One of the most notable differences is that the black-owned businesses are gone. The welfare rules of Johnson's Great Society led to an explosion of black single mothers, among other things. The result of the Great Society was the destruction of black families, increased delinquency (which led to increased crime) and the economic and social collapse of the black community. Success and enterprise were punished by the welfare rules, failure was rewarded and black women were rewarded if they kicked their men out of the home. All of this was self-evidently by design. In other words, that was the outcome that the Democrats wanted, because they wanted to create a dysfunctional welfare-dependant underclass that would vote Democrat forever. See: ammo.com/.../lbj-great-society-war-on-poverty-welfare-state-helped-ruin-black-communities
Because it's just All human rights matter. Which means i support all human rights and no matter what skin color you are, you have human rights to not be treated in such ways and that's what i support. I don't put an emphasis on "Black" Because the color don't matter what matters is just when someone human rights is broken. Then i would like to focus more on Hong Kong since there rights are been more broken than most people in America. Other places honestly have much bigger problems.
Because BLM is an inverted KKK... I wouldn't support either organization They are the same brand of left wing nutters as the UK labour party They are anti-capitalist so instantly that makes me against them They have a severe lack of intelligence given they've vandalised statues of abolishionists in their rampage
I support radical police reform and ending the war on drugs--and not just in regards to marijuana, but every drug known to man. I also support abolishing (privatizing) the police, eventually, but at the federal level first, followed by the local level.
However, I don't support left-wing economic policies like slave reparations or any other method of redistributing wealth. I also find the racial narrative unnecessary for accomplishing the stated goals, as well as unnecessarily divisive.
I don’t support them. All lives matter. I do not believe in systematic nor institutionalized racism in America. Everything points to the contrary of those things existing in wide spread amounts.
Blacks are not the only race who’ve been killed by police either legitimately or not. There is a long list of people of all races with fatal encounters with police. I resent the media and left wing turning a police reform issue into a race issue.
Do I believe black lives have the right to be as respected as any other lives? Yes! Do I believe that any lives that are not black need to be wiped off the Earth in a mass genocide? No! Why? Partly because I am not black, and partly because any life matters, how is it okay to murder anyone because of differences in skin pigmentation? That would be like dogs killing dogs because one has a spot and the other does not.
Shall we find lists of all the lives rioters, protestors, and other armed “BLM advocates” have taken? I can assure you that that amount far surpasses the amount of lives taken from police brutality in the past couple months. Check out my recent comment I wrote for more on my opinion of all this, because I don’t feel like writing it all out again. My point being, the negatives have far outweighed the positives of recent BLM riots and protests.
When the protest have started after Floyd’s death all the protest were absolutely peaceful, the police them made it violent to control the huge crowds they tear gassed and shot rubber bullets are people. A lot of young beautiful people and children have died from tear gas and rubber bullets. Obviously the people are not going to stand around being abuse and watch their children being abused. A cop actually started the fire of one of the building whilst he was undercover. The looters are selfish people who are trying to mooch off of the innocent protesters. There have been a few riots and then there have been thousands of Peaceful protest, the positives outweigh the negatives
The police had no choice but to take action as people were blocking the roads and preventing people from making their commutes. The protests may have been peaceful, but I can assure you that the people were given ample opportunity to leave the area before tear gas and rubber bullets had to be used. Children and unhealthy people should not have been protesting anyways. Everyone there was technically breaking the law as they were jaywalking in the streets. Please check out my recent comment on a Tabitha Morris post I made, because I went much more in depth there. I also like how you mentioned that “a cop” started a fire... Really? I had no clue that a single person could do something wrong! That must mean that all police are evil and we must defund all police!!
Ah, an anarchist, I see. I hope you realize that you aren’t going to enjoy your life very much in a country of anarchy, nor will anyone else. Since you clearly aren’t aware, ‘defund’ means to stop giving funds to. It’s in the name: de-fund. No funds= no police. No police = anarchy. Please don’t try to tell me what’s up before you thoroughly educate yourself.
Actually I’m not an anarchist and defund doesn’t mean take it all away, the police departments get 100 billion dollars for a very fucked up system. By defunding the police they would give some of that money to education systems, healthcare systems, more job opportunities
It amazes me that you think less funding would make for better law-enforcement system. Really seems like an un-related point to the whole BLM thing anyways. Anyways, I’m tired of wasting my time trying to educate you.
I never said that. I think that those few police who have killed when it was not necessary or his/her life were not in danger should serve time. But there are many police who have been arrested because they killed when their life was in danger. And I do pity those cops. Massive riots and street blockages aren’t going to solve those problems, though, are they?
No, mostly because black lives don't matter to BLM, or any lives, for that matter. They're openly a Marxist front and basically terrorists. They don't care who dies as long as they get the power that they're after.
The founders were Marxist but since then the movement has progressed and it’s filled with all new people, and founders of an organization doesn’t represent it as a whole, do you really think all those millions of people who protested are Marxist? No
True. Marxists have a long history of taking advantage of useful idiots. Most people on the Left genuinely want to help the less fortunate and make the world a better place. They are simply being deceived.
I’m not denying that the founders of blm are completely clean, but the millions of people who are protesting and donating money are not Marxist they are good people
And I'm not saying that they're not good people with good intentions. I'm saying that they're being deceived by those who are not good people and do not have good intentions.
I don't, 1 the creator of the movement is a Marxist that thinks violence is okay. 2 the movement is completely detrimental to the black community. Like their ideas aren't knew. They're just following in Malcolm X's foot steps. 3 George Floyd got more justice than anyone else. He died over a month ago too and they're still using his name as an excuse to behave poorly. It's not people fighting for their rights. It's a bunch of opportunists wanting to be destructive and get away with it
My sentiments exactly. The trouble makers don't give a shit either way, they are just there to cause trouble. If you could trace every bus ticket in the US of these protestors you would see they all converge from all over the US to the trouble spots which they live for.
I don't support black lives matter because over the last 65-75 years this country and this WORLD has tried everything and anything to let the black community know that they are just as equal as everything and everyone else and the unracist side of the black community have gone on to do great things WITHOUT pulling the race card. But 75% of these so called AMERICANS pull the race card at every opportunity so they don't have to work for anything. They want it given to them and to top it off, they really believe they deserve it. Case in point. Put a black and white community side side and make them equal in everything and I guarantee you the white side will flourish as to where the black side will regress and claim racism because the white side went out and earned theirs while the black side has their hands out crying racism.
First of all your time period or 65-75 is inaccurate because about 60 years ago the first black girl who was about 6 went to an all white school and she had to got with actual military personal to protect her because all the student were assaulting a little girl. Black communities still suffer from poverty and over policing, systematic racism still exits, the justice system is still fucked and racially unfair. The police system was not put in place to protect, it was formed as a loophole after slavery was abolished. Your point about putting a black and white community next to each other is very idiotic, because intelligence is not based on skin color, that claim is borderline racist.
My time frame was an approximation not a quote. If only you had a few more years in that young naive brain of yours, you would sing a different tune. 17 years old your barely old to cross the fucking street let alone lead an attack against what you consider racism. Step off your idealist soap box and take everything school teaches about racism and throw it out the fucking window because everything else you learn in school, including racism, does not apply to real life and you dont have enough life experience to know anything about it.
Never mind, you've already been proven wrong. I wish you could open your eyes and see the real world for what it is. Hopefully you won't have to experience the nasty side of the world where all the nasty things live, including racism
Racism, more often than not brought on and instigated mainly by blacks is one of the evils of this earth that will never go away. Where ever you find black people, you find racism
I don't support them. Mainly because they are emotional and irrational. Defuding the police means the police will be less active. And also means that the police would use less force. They might even be afraid of shooting any black person because the whole thing might happen with them too. No police means chaos. And you've seen what chaos looks like.
So I agree with you, in that black lives matter. They are just as human as any other race, and we all deserve the absolute maximum of respect for our dignity and our humanity. So why do you support the movement then? Because I don't, and I don't see the connection between supporting the movement and actual black lives. Other than the name they chose
Because the central point of the movement is to address police discrimination and killings against black people. I agree with them that such things need meaningful change which has yet to actually happen.
I agree that all unjust killings need to stop. And that some cops are definitely discriminatory. Why do you think the movement doesn't seem to care about black lives being killed when it's not by a white cop?
I don’t think it’s that they don’t care, it’s that the groups message isn’t about that. It’s focused on one aspect of society. To me that’s like wondering why RAINN isn’t addressing addressing sodomy laws.
I think you're saying, but the slogan, black lives matter, seems to imply that they're focusing on black lives. And anyone who disagrees with them they accuse of not caring about black lives. And yet, in 2019, only nine unarmed black people were killed by cops. That's obviously nine too many, but it's not a serious problem facing black people. Heck, there were more black people killed in the riots in the past month than there were by cops in the past decade. That's insane! Killing a bunch of black people doesn't show that you want cops to stop killing black people.
I agree there are flaws, but it’s not just killings. As I said it also deals with the discrimination, which is very prevalent. I’ll be doing a poll on here soon that I’ll try and gauge a sample of prevalence.
And yes, but when your slogan is black lives matter, But if you only take a look when a black person is killed by a white cop, it doesn't seem that that black life matters to you. Only just the ones that get you political activism
But even then, far more cops treat black people well, even in tough situations, than the reverse. In addition, a cop is 18.5 times more likely to be shot by a black person than the other way around
Oh, I agree. Most people think they don't. After all, in a country of 320 million people, there will always be some bad ones. And the media only focuses on those stories because it gets them views. So most people get the idea that cops don't tend to treat black people well. But when you look at the actual numbers and not only stories (valid as they are), then it becomes clear the vast majority of cops aren't like that
Even if a majority aren’t like that, a sizable amount are, and they are rarely held to account. That’s usually due to a concept called “qualified immunity”, which protects them from most lawsuits or conviction. The fact that police, judges and communities aren’t all for removing those problem officers from power, just degrades trust in them as an institution. It looks like catholic priests protecting pedophiles.
How much is a sizable amount? And yes, some of them definitely get protected. But I don't think it's because of qualified immunity. That is a theory that I don't see holding water. But I do think police unions are the cause of a lot of that
We can’t know, as there is only peoples testimony on the matter. Police can’t exactly be trusted to bust their own friends for what they culturally tend to see as minor issues.
That seems a bit circular, no? Trying to prove the police mistreat blacks disproportionately, so you said we have to only listen to the testimonials of those who claim to have been mistreated. And that we can't trust the cops side, because they view it as a minor issue.
Black Lives Matter is a hypocrite movement. Why don't BLM protest for all the black babies that get aborted daily, protest for all the black on black crime?
BLM movement is all about causing division, racial tension and starting drama.
Well number one for me is because its counterintuitive, like the monument to the ww2 all black regiment that BLM vandalized, and another one is that they're holding these massive rallies that are spreading covid and getting people hurt.
All life matters not only humans, this looks like rasest blacks now don't like it no more they disrespected people with racest views and stupidity want things that's only helping crime, I don't support nothing like this no more it's racesit now to my eye what I see and hear from people.
Actually their not, in 2015 it was founded by a group of people and one of them was a Marxist, but since then most of its members have been replaced and that guy who was a said Marxist has left the organization
They are. Their platform includes dismantling the nuclear family, and using threats of force to silence any critics. It was founded by two Marxists who praised Maduro.
The only difference with BLM is that the bourgeoisie are identified by race.
Furthermore, they’re a bunch of hypocrites. They don’t care about the black lives ruined by the riots and protests.
Lastly, it’s been proven that blacks aren’t killed disproportionately by police. When you take police killings as a percentage of the population that commits crimes, Blacks are at a rate of 3/100,000; whites at a rate of 4/100,000. There’s also been a Harvard study that showed no racial bias by police.
Act blue is a platform for people to donate to campaign and causes, it moves donations to organizations and doesn’t actually pocket any of the money, Republicans actually have their own processing tool as well called wind red, on both windred and act blue, donation to directly to its recipients, many people have already fact checked that act blue is not taking money from blm to give to democratic campaigns, you can go through fec reports to check this or literally google it, this information I easily accessed
The UNCF actually helps people; BLM simply stirs up baseless grievances with misinformation, and encourages a self defeating mindset and self destructive behaviors. It's sad to see how many young people, black and white, being used as pawns right now, and doing things on video that are going to haunt them later.
It started out great good things happened then they became a part of Antifa and burning of cities happened. their way or nothing intimidation of people who did not agree with them 1000% no tolerance of anything but their agenda. Now you see people holding BLM posters while looting stores. Great way to get people to follow your movement.
I don't, in the extreme. I believe they are pushing for a shooting war. They don't really want to fix anything. they only want to destroy everything. And the hypocrisy! They don't care about the thousands of blacks killed by other blacks nor the millions of unborn black babies killed in the womb.
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Because by supporting BLM, I'd be turning a blind eye to the fact that all races get killed unjustly by the cops. Because BLM only cares about black lives when we're killed by white cops. Because BLM is playing black people.
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You keep saying that BLM fights against police brutality for all races. You're lying. Any time I've ever asked about other races, I'm always told "we're not talking about that right now. We're talking about black lives"
So to prove them wrong, name one time BLM has organised protests over the killing of a non-black person.
Depends on what the movement is about and what it seeks to achieve and how? Baised favouring just because pf the skin colour or race obviously seems unfair...
You do realise that recruiting for the role of a police officer is not an exact science, like any role advertised if you get 150 applications you then need to remove the undesired HOPING you find the right person for the job.
Recruiting is like pottery, it's hard to sort the shit from the clay
I don't get this black life's matter. Every life matters black, white, Indian, all. creeds and colours have suffered racism of some sort. The correct banner should be ALL LIFES MATTER
No ever said all lives didn’t matter, blm is highlighting that black lives matter TOO, because people seems to forget that, if you believe all lives matter then you should support black lives matter because black lives are apart of ALL lives. If you can say all lives matter then you can say black lives matter
All I've heard about them is related to riots, looting and vandalising memorials. I'm not necessarily against them because I haven't done any research for myself so I've obviously only heard biased opinions of them. But I don't support them for the same reason.
Yeah but at first after George Floyd’s deaths when thousands of people were peacefully protesting, the police made it violent by tear gassing and shooting rubber bullets at them, and an undercover cop who was wearing street clothes set a building on fire, and the looting are just selfish people trying to take advantage of All those protesters.
i can't support a group who thinks rioting and burning down businesses is the way to say we need less police
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Drama kangs and qwaines need to get fucking jobs and stop rioting, looting and obey the fucking law for a change and maybe just maybe they wouldn't be shot at by police?
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