
Why do people accept transgenders but not trans racial?

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Well I personally just don't like the idea of being "Transracial", it just doesn't seem right. And while in many ways being Transgendered and "Transracial" have very similar arguments there's a couple key things that I think sets these two apart. ( I'll also be using Transracial in quotation because the word is actually being misused in this context as it's original meaning was meant for parents of one race adopting a child of another race, that being called Transracial adoption.)
My first and probably strongest point being that the number of "Transracial" people now and in history is very very few. Even before some people think being Trans was just a trend there was a lot of history of people being or acting Trans but maybe just not having a word for it. "Transracial" however, to my knowledge, has little to no history. Many people over time have dressed up as another race, usually in a mocking way, but that's obviously not a instance of being "Transracial" just as in a man dressing up in a cheap wig and his Girlfriends dress for Halloween isn't an instance of being Transgender. When you first think of someone being "Transracial" you think of Rachel Dolezal, quite literally only Rachel Dolezal. I mean seriously, name me another person that claims to be "Transracial". If you look at her up bringing it seems pretty clear that the reason she most likely identifies this way is because of the abuse she faced growing up. She was raised in an extremely Christian home where her parents didn't even believe in using medical help during birth and her birth was a particularly hard one which almost killed her mother so she was always looked at in a worse light. They were very strict and her and her brother got regular beatings. They ended up adopting 3 black children which she ended up identifying with more than her monster family and because the children were black she was able to read more about that culture without her parents getting mad.(because they would dictate what she could and couldn't read)
Also how many "Transracial" people identify as Indian, Native American, or Asian? A lot of the people that are trying to look another race are usually idolizing another race or they grew up primarily surrounded by that race.
I agree because essentially gender and race are both social constructs. Gender, not to be confused by sex (there are only 2 sexes) is a societal construct because society deems what is considered masculine and feminine. In the same way, science tells us that there is only one race but as a society we have determined that different phenotypes/ethnic feautures indicate diff race. I think transracial is less accepted because people of some races, black for example, are subject to oppression and microagressions that other races might not be subject to as much, example white people. Therefore when a white person identifies as black, it seems as if they are exploiting the benefits of black peoples culture while bypassing the struggles of having to grow up black.
OK I kinda get gender but how is race a social construct.
@TheLittleInnocent because society deems that certain physical traits and skin color indicate different race, but at the end of the day the concept race has no basis in genetics. This article from nat geo explains it better than I could:
www.nationalgeographic.com/.../
I still don't understand but ok I will do some digging so I get it better. 💀
@TheLittleInnocent she doesn't understand either, don't worry.
@TheLittleInnocent lol basically from a genetic standpoint, there is only one race of humans. & the article I linked does a good job of explaining that. But of course from a societal standpoint, people divide other people into categories like race, ethnicity, etc. but these categories only have meaning because we give them meaning. Meaning humans are the ones that assign certain traits/colors a racial category. The difference between a black person and a white person is only their skin color, hair type, facial feautures. But from a genetic standpoint, a black and white person are both the same species of human. We are not two distinct species or races or breeds or whatever other word you want to use.
Whenever I get stopped by the cops I say you can't do this to me I'm a White Man. Works every time.
Jokes aside It's the Liberal Black woman. If you understand how her mind works you get it. SHE MUST BE TOP white MAN Liberal PET.
She loves the Double minority status so when a white woman or any other woman (Eva Longoria ) threatens her throne she gets angry and destroys.
They know trannys Is nasty but it does affect them not yet but it's starting to. A white woman becoming black or acting black (catch me outside girl) take praise or positions from the liberal black woman
Since 'racial' is a cultural/ethnic identity not a biological category of any kind. identifing as a 'race' is is hardly a problem.
With transgender, the problem is simply that people don't understand there is a difference between sex and gender. Gender is a social/cultural identity. Sex is the plumbing. So trans gender, not a problem.
now doing things like blackface is bad due to some very shitty history of the dominant culture trying to destroy the other cultures at the time.
About your last question, no they probably still wouldn't.. take Oli London for an example, now he hasn't actually said that he's transracial, but he has said that he's about 50% Korean (even tho he's fully white) and gets lots of hate
It certainly wouldn't phase me.
If an American couple adopt a child from Veitnam - that child is American no?
I'm white, yet I identify as Australian, are you telling me that is wrong?
That said, what 'people' would accept or not is a different question, and relates to the high numbers of narrow minded and bigoted folks in that group, not with the person in question and their cultural identity.
Honestly, I really don't care what people identify as (as long as it's not just a mockery) I was just saying what I've seen online
Most Australians are white 🙄...
@Sweetheart666 Most white Australians don't have a strong claim on the identity, at least not as strong as Aborigines for example.
I see myself as Australian because I was born there, but neither of my parents were, our 'history' with the country goes back about 80 years now (and I no longer live there)
I have no heritage claim to the title, having Aboriginal friends doesn't make you native as far as most people think.
Basically this gatekeeping purity bullshit is just that, bullshit.
An important distinction here is between race, ethnicity and nationality. Ethnicity is about blood, you are born with it. Nationality (citizenship) is conferred, and can be changed, but it's not biological, and not necessarily cultural either, because you can choose whether your nationality is very important to you or not.
But race is different. Race (distinct from ethnicity) was a concept created by colonial powers to put people in a hierarchy that did not exist before. Race takes the biological fact of ethnicity, adds in stereotypes and prejudice, and places all this in a hierarchy where the "rational" white man is on top and the "savage" African person is at the bottom. Race was invented to say that the white man should conquer others because he knows best. This was backed up by pseudo-sciences like anthropometry, i. e., measuring body parts to determine not just ethnicity but inferiority. For example, you might have heard of hope the Nazis used the stereotype of the "Jewish nose" to claim that Jews are an inferior race, even though many Jewish people are ethnically very close to whites. That's how they disguise race as ethnicity.
*how the Nazis
@syskerully AANNNND Godwin.
race and ethnicity is interchangable, and not biologically dictated.
It's like you didn't even read my reply.
@syskerully it's almost like you keep pushing a distinction without a difference. the only true difference between race and ethnicity is the implication.
@syskerully So if someone wanted identify themselves as a different ethnicity not race you would be okay with it?
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Both are bullshit. You are what you are born as. Race and sex (sex includes gender) are determined at birth.
How can you change your sex/ gender but not your race? I am positive a good dermatologist can darken or lighten a person skin tone. Think of Michael Jackson.
If a person is born as a true hermaphrodite (which has nothing to do with being trans) a doctor may suggest surgery to cosmetically enhance the person's genitals based are which are more prevalent.
There's no history to being transracial. There is, however, a history of blackface and appropriation... and that's kind of what it looks like she's doing.
Transgender people have a long history and cultural traditions specific to certain transgender communities, or specific to certain trans people within a community. This history is quite old, dating back to ancient India, Persia, China, Egypt, various parts of sub-Saharan Africa and ancient Greece, all places with cultures that have at some points in time recognized and valued the place of transgender people. The bigotry that trans people face has always been around but it cannot be denied that they have a presence in history.
That's the difference.
The same reason they don't accept trans-dolphin, furry or otherkin.
This shit is making bullcrap peddling psychologist money. All so they can tell dimwits what they want to hear, and train them in ways to rationalise it to themselves, before getting the pity of associates and then eventual acceptance from the "woke" brigade.
Instead of whacking them across the ear and stating they are not "quirky" and to behave themselves.
Here's the thing, as a transgender man I was diagnosed with gender dysphoria by my psychologist so I could even start my medical transition.
When it comes to transratial what would ther dysphoria be.. or like that thing that would be the reason for them to "transition"
I'm not from the US so I'm not sure what DSM is.. Still I feel like some transgender people would take it as a mockery and not be okay with it.
I guess it’s the same concept, some people are not happy with the sex and even color they were born. Maybe more will want to change color. If you watched the movie series “Time Trax” in the 90s , in the future white people are the minority in every country
We have to draw a line in the sand somewhere. Do you wanna live in a world where all these white people are getting dark spray tans, dreadlocks, and doing their best black imitations?
Putting African American down on job applications etc etc.
I think it will become popular to change your race and gender in the future
I agree. Its kind of the same thing, but there aren't as many black imitators as there are Trans people so its not socially acceptable yet.. The moment you have like 1 out of 1000 people being black imitators then it will become a new thing that everyone now accepts. Its a numbers thing in my opinion
Gender is a real thing. Race isn't. Now, if someone identifies with a certain ethnicity and culture that they originally weren't born in, that's totally legitimate and I accept that. If that is meant by "trans race". But I have a feeling that's not what is meant.
I personally don't care if people want to be transrace or transgender. I'm just minding my own business ⭐
I don't see anything wrong with people identifying as a different race.
I think this happens in many cases with people and not much we can do
people will do what they want?
If we weren't so obsessed with putting everyone into square or round holes the problem wouldn't exist. Without racism and sexism we could all just be what we are without these neuroses.
My attitude is, "Do what you want, but don't expect me to join you in your self-delusion."
Took the word right out of my mouth. I'd like to give you a firm handshake.
i think a lot of people accepted MJ as a trans racial woman
I accept males as males, females as females, and the human race as the one race of humans.
never even knew they are "not accepted", maybe its not the case in my country
You know this starts to look like South Park, right?
It shows the absurdity of SJW culture, so I love it.
These are the questions that need to be asked that everyone is too shit scared to ask. I commend you brave knight!
That is a paradox. Race is a stupid social construct that should be forgotten anyway.
I don't accept any trans , no way am I supporting delusions
People don’t accept trans people. That’s just a made up story to make you feel warm and fuzzy.
No most people make fun of them and ridicule them (not saying that’s right).
Yes yes I do.
That’s a nice igloo hotel
Because a genetic imbalance is not the same as a mental issue.
i dont accept any of it
nothing but satan running through them
They need jesus.
That said I'm Buddhist moralist so what do I know?
ooh, now if there's such a thing as "trans beauty", I'll identify myself as a hot white male and I'll be set for life!
I accept them and that should be enough
Don't know. Both are damn insane.
Nice igloo.
I support neither.
I think people are just being stupid now...
What the hell is trans racial
Most people don't accept either
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