This better describing, taking together the good and the bad and the circumstances each faced or faces, Ataturk as opposed to Erdogan. The latter offering fodder for seething social resentments and then jailing those whom regards as on the wrong side of the argument. Suffice to say that at his passing he is apt to leave a culture sullen with bitterness and set to draw blood.
But your grandparents didn't say that.
My grandfathers fought in ww2. My great grandfather marched through the streets of constantinople having conquered the Turks. There Turkish women threw themselves at him as Turkish been wept in the streets because they knew who was their masters.
I guess you confuse a Turkish woman with a French woman. So what happened when you came to Istanbul? You ran back as you came. Aren't you all fucked up after the war of liberation? Ask your grandfather about Fatih Sultan Mehmet and Atatürk. You are the one who called Suleyman the Magnificent "the magnificent Süleyman". Although Suleyman was a mediocre sultan.
Not true. What happened was the Turks surrendered. Ataturk was a surrender monkey.
Didn’t he contribute to the murder of all those Armenians? I don’t know much about him, I just know erdogan is a monster
They were not killed, they were only forced to migrate and they deserved it. There were many Armenians who died during the migration, but this cannot be called genocide. In wartime this was necessary.
I mean the government made them leave without food, and only Armenians. Hundreds of thousands died, it’s a genocide for sure. That’s what the word genocide means.
Armenians cooperated with the Russians and fought against the Ottoman Empire. It killed civilians. They had to be migrated. What would you do to people in your country who cooperate with the enemy and kill your family? I wish they hadn't died on the way but it happened. This is not genocide.
Murdering hundreds of thousands of women and children isn’t genocide? You are brainwashed.
If there is an effect, it will react. Should they emigrate men and take women as booty? Yes, unfortunately, many Armenians died, but this migration was necessary under war conditions. Why was this done to Armenians, not Albanians, Bosnians, Georgian? Because they cooperate with the enemy and cause harm to civilians. do some empathy. Your country entered the World War and a nation was killing you by cooperating with your enemy, what would you do? In war conditions this was necessary.Sorry girl, actually is that you are brainwashed. Where are you from?
Lol you are brainwashed. The holocaust was in time of war when the Nazis committed genocide against the Jews. The ottomans were at war and committed genocide against the Armenians. It doesn’t matter why, if you murder hundreds of thousands of women and children of a specific ethnic group, that’s a genocide. That’s what that English word means.
There is no genocide, there is extortion. Bernard Lewis says that. Famous American historian. If the Turks committed genocide against the Armenians, the Armenians also committed genocide against the Turks before that. I expect the same sensitivity on this issue.If you see the Jewish Genocide and the Armenian Genocide the same: you are either ignorant or brainwashed haha.
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