She was a patriot who was also being an idiot, what she did was stupid why she was doing it was patriotic, she should've thought about what would happen if you went on private government property. What she was doing she thought was best for America even though her beliefs were wrong, and that is why she is a patriot, not because she wanted to vote for trump but because she was trying to improve the US based on what she thought was right, there are some non-patriotic trump supporters out there though, I was at this party and talking with an adult about the election, he said that there is voter fraud in all the states, and I said "we don't really know that for sure, it is possible but it is not we know for sure that happened" then he kinda grabbed my shoulder and squeezed it really hard and said "we shouldn't be arguing for the other side" and I was like but I'm just saying the truth, anyway some people out there believe in what is wrong but try to do what is right and that makes them patriotic some people are the opposite and some just do it all wrong. If we want America to continue as a country that trumps all others we need to find a middle ground and stop fighting with each other over things. it'd also be nice if BLM could stop burning down buildings.
Neither.
She was a brainwashed fool.
Traitor. Patriots don’t storm the capitol building to halt a democratic process outlined in the constitution, because they didn’t like an election result.
Also need I remind you, as she was a airforce vet, she betrayed her oath.
Don’t want to die? Don’t storm a building with armed federal guards.
s Well since I'm not American I feel that I can't say whether if she was a traitor or a patriot.
What I do know is that she should have listened to the police. She was completely blind and out of her mind.
She disrespected Kamala Harris and she died for a clown who doesn't care about her. That's really sad.
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Looks like she didn’t have common ash sense after all.
I'm tired of the double standard in this country, this question was never asked when BLM and Antifa were burning down our cities and looting, the same politicians that are accusing her of being a traitor and saying she should have complied, are the very same people who were promoting a fund to pay legal costs and bail for the people burning down our cities and looting.
I personally believe she was wrong for doing what she did, but I also said that all the others in the summer that had criminal records and were killed when resisting arrest were wrong also.
But when people shout police brutality when a felon and those with criminal records are shot by police even when some of them took weapons from police and in this instance a veteran was killed by police and say that she somehow deserved it because of her actions are the exact example of hypocrisy.
If you are honest it's not a race issue to whether you are defended or attacked by people because of your actions it is because of your political views.
This case being a prime example.
She is a traitor and a terrorist. She was commiting an act of sedition and she was shot in the face by an officer who was protecting a room full of people. This room was barracaded and all the protestors were trying to break into it with sticks and melee weapons. It is not a surprise that a cop shot her as she started climbing over the barracade. Also, I don't think true conservatives should be praising her. When did anarchism become a conservative ideal? Those rioters were not true conservatives.
in my opinion she was a misguided woman - deliberately misled by selfish people who didn't consider or care that others could be hurt by their actions.
I think this ties into a larger story about Trump and his GOP sycophants - practically the entire GOP at this point:
The COVID-19 pandemic, which is killing thousands of Americans daily, hardly seems to register with them. They don't seem to give a f... about it. They have not made citizens safer - on the contrary, they have deliberately sabotaged such efforts.
They have embraced immorality and have for a while seemed giddy about joining the dark side. This is not how I expect adults to behave. It goes against most wisdom in most cultures.
And their smirking immorality honestly reminds me of the Nazis. The thrill of hurting others.
Strange times.
She was a victim. A victim of politicians and conspiracy theorists who used her rage and ignorance to storm the capitol to overturn an election that they had lost.
And the thing is, there was no way it was ever going to happen.
She died for no reason at all.
Obviously not a traitor/ she was an Air Force veteran.
When riots didn’t affect the political elite but instead only ordinary people they don’t care about, the politicians cheered them. When they can to the Capitol Building, all of a sudden they’re bad and the rioters are “traitors”- never mind that most of the politicians have repeatedly done things to sell out our country to foreigners.
The riot in the Capitol was bad and a crime, but that building is no more holy than any that was damaged by Antifa and BLM last year. It’s only when the political elite got a taste of the chaos they’ve unleashed on ordinary people that it became a problem and “traitorous”.
The politicians are hypocrites and at least some of them are traitors. That doesn’t excuse any riots at all, no matter who does them, for what cause, or where they occur.
She decided to ignore the rulings of the judicial branch, the legal certification of votes by states and generally the constitutional process of elections was not good enough.
Why? Because her favourite candidate lost. So how did she respond? By attacking democracy, attacking people’s constitutional rights and attacking the core institutions in the nation.
Fuck her, she’s a traitor.
Totally sick of seing people focus on this woman because she's the relatively hot white girl. She broke into somewhere she shouldn't have been, took part in a violent protest and paid the cost of that. Its her own fault and it shouldn't be celebrated.
We should be focusing on the cop who gave his life trying to protect Congress instead. He's the only one who didn't deserve what he got, the real hero here.
Neither. I'd like to know what lead to the shot being fired...
I know people whose minds work like this and I distance from them. This is extreme thinking and flawed. What she was... out of control emotionally, breaking and entering, apparently not abiding by the law enforcement officers directions, and who knows what leading to the shot fired. As military person, she know better. I wonder if she was on drugs... and what kind.
If she was cowering and backing up I'd say wrongfully killed. I doubt she was cowering though.
It's sad... hope she didn't leave orphans.
She's neither traitor or patriot. She was a sadly misguided, misinformed individual who was lied to and believed it. She believed the Dems had somehow rigged the election and accepted Trump's lies as truth, or saw bogus "evidence" and believed that, or both. Her death was unnecessary and unfortunate. And what will those she leaves behind say in the future? I don't know. All I DO know, is how very sad the whole thing is.
Think about it: Area 51, a Top Secret Research Facility located in Nevada, is one of the few places in America to have the Authority to use Deadly force against trespassers. The Capitol building... The very Center of Presidential Business, most definitely has such Authority as well. Anyone FOOLISH enough to storm such an important Location will be eliminated to protect those within the Establishment.
With another important note: She was warned, and did not obey orders.
Closing statement: Ashli Babbitt, former Military Individual, was a Traitor.
She was one of many that trump manipulated and it's a shame she died this way. It's so obvious that Trump is no good he doesn't care about anyone but himself and he's played on the fact that so many Americans have been let down or treated unfair by our government or maybe looking for something or someone to blame. So he worked on this and manipulated the dissolutioned. He came in acting like the answer when he's really the problem. I don't think anybody should call any of the people that were involved a traitor or a hero without knowing their heart. I don't agree with what happened and I definitely do not support Trump. I just see this as a sad day in America
Clearly a brainashed moron. Was she even bright enough to recognize her actions constituted trying to overthrow the government? Don't really know and frankly, don't really care.
I feel zero symoathy for her. As so many right wingers on this board constantly reminded BLM protestors over the summer "If you simply obey the instruuctions of law enforcement, you won't get shot." She didn't and put sitting members of Congress at risk. So bye bye.
I'm not an American to say if she's a traitor or patriot but i fetl sad for her passing away, cause i believe that whoever killed her should be punished, you don't have the right to end a person's life! PERIOD!
They left her husband without a wife and her kids without a mother, she's only 35!
People have different opinions about politics and other stuff but no one and nothing deserves to die for!
They could of stopped her anyway and kept her heart beating so she lives but they chose to end her life!
Using a bullet means they wanted to end lives...
May she R. I. P wether she's right or wrong, she didn't deserve to die...
Patriot if you ask me, she fought for our country and what does she get in return? Shot and killed in cold blood. Oh but criminals like George Floyd get national attention and praise by blm, social media and our politicians both republican and democrat. Seriously our country is messed up!! Say her name Ashli Babbit!!
Traitor. Anytime you storm any government property and try to stop democracy that’s being a traitor. You’re going against what this country stood for. That’s what terrorists do. She lost her life for what? Nothing at all. What they did Wednesday didn’t change a freaking thing. I’m glad they’re losing their jobs and some have been arrested. It’s what they get.
If anything she should have stayed home. She sure didn't accomplish much besides showing that the Capitol is protected by guns and you don't invade the Capitol without a response. Instead of a movie called Whitehouse Down it is Capitol Intruder Down.
A human being who unfortanutely died for nothing is what I call her.
Like damn, she could be at home right now with her family, but noppeeeee.
Just had to go out to the Capitol, now she's dead and won't even come back.
All things she believed in andfought for doesn't even matter to her anymore, because she's dead.
She was not a traitor as much as a good old idiot. One can be a little more forgiving to those not intelligent enough to understand the difference between right and wrong, especially as she's dead.
The real traitors are still in the White House and Congress.
She was neither. She was simply a naive woman who thought she can get away with terrorism and trespassing. Like you said, she was told repeatedly to stand back to which she did not comply.
Like they say:
“Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.”
What a loss of life.
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