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- Would have voted "Other" had the option been open. The handling of the pandemic is problematic. It was the quintessential "black swan" event and to judge how it has been handled it must be set against some contemporaneous example of which none exists.
Indeed, if anything, both former President Trump and President Biden are apt to be fall short. Particularly given the society's almost religious faith in science, it's assumption that it is entitled to perfect safety and perfect outcomes at the snap of a finger. Throw in then that, for all its caterwauling about government and politics, the public is quick to run to the Federal government for answers when, at best, human control of pathogens is apt to be uneven at best.
In this, and I state here that, though I am a Republican, I was no fan of President Trump, the criticisms of him were vaguely absurd. That his response was not perfect was inevitable. That it was nevertheless reasonably effective - not least in expediting the discovery and production of a vaccine - seems also self-evident.
This not least being that President Biden's own plan looks strikingly similar. Mask wearing, vaccine distribution, etc.. Indeed, CNN was recently compelled to withdraw a story claiming that the Trump administration had left no plan for the Biden team. It then appearing as if the Biden team, in claiming that they were having to "start from scratch," was looking to lower expectations for its' own performance going forward.
Indeed, this being further highlighted by the fact that less than 24 hours into his term, Mr. Biden's CDC Director has begun to backtrack on the President's campaign pledge to get 100 million vaccinations completed by the end of his first 100 days. It also being noted that the most recent statistics suggest that rate of vaccination has already been met.
To this then there was President Biden's Executive Order mandating the wearing of facial masks on Federal properties. Leave aside the fact that the wearing of masks is, by this point, pretty standard already even in the absence of a Federal regulatory requirement.
It was not long ago that President Trump, who issued no such order, was criticized for not wearing a mask. This being dubbed a "bad example," as if people were waking up in the morning wondering if Mr. Trump was going to wear a mask and allowing it determine their own decision on whether to wear a facial covering. It was absurd on its' face - pardon the pun.
Yet a mere 3 1/2 hours after signing his Executive Order, President Biden twice, his family and once his spokesperson all appeared on Federal properties absent a mask. His spokesperson, when asked about this replying that the President was "celebrating" and that the administration had "more important things" to worry about.
Suffice to say, the double standard did little for the credibility of President Biden's own stewardship - again a mere 48 hours into his term - of the pandemic. It not helping that, to date, every high profile hypocrisy on mask wearing has been on the Democrat's side of the aisle - see also Governor Newsom, DC Mayor Bowser, etc. The difference in Mr. Biden's case being that he was in violation of his own otherwise enforceable regulation.
No matter. Such are the pratfalls that Mr. Biden is apt to stumble across as he attempts to manage an unusual situation. Like President Trump as well, Mr. Biden should be given some latitude for error and the natural absurdities that come with them. He having the advantage of being able to follow in Mr. Trump's pioneering footsteps and thus perhaps learn from the example which his predecessor had to learn by trial and error.
So is the pandemic in "good hands" under Mr. Biden. As the old axiom goes, "Eh, good enough for government work."1|30|1Is this still revelant?You are not obliged to read it. Complicated questions require detailed answers and this is a discussion site after all.
https://youtu.be/3NI59zfAAhQ
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Actually, if you read carefully, I disagree with Mr. Carlson in his final analysis, while perhaps agreeing in a few particulars. However, my sense is that you are not much of a reader, so I shall not bother.
It being axiomatic that you cannot reason a person out of a viewpoint into which they were not reasoned to begin with - and in this case did not bother to read.
I’m not much of a reader. Especially when it’s something I just watched on an episode of tucker.Yes, that is obvious. Please, go to school. Go learn something. Your opinions are as intense and lacking in nuance as they are superficial.
Your opinions are usually just that. Opinions. If you don’t add links and sources, I can’t believe it.
I always cite sources and usually don’t discuss anything without them.
I will not be insulted on my question.Where are they then. As far as insults, who opened this discussion accusing whom of being a hypocrite?
Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone. You are Exhibit A from that line in the movie Bull Durham - "The world is not made for people who are burdened with the curse of self-awareness."
Suffice to say, you have nothing to worry about.First - and mots important - I misread your sentence and apologize.
Second, it is quite clear that you did not read what I wrote. I hardly think that you are in a position to comment when what I wrote clearly stretched you past your attention span.
To have my argument so mischaracterized by you as it was - and then to be told that it was too long such that it is obvious that you did not bother to read it - does you no credit.Sure I did. You talked about how the coronavirus is unique and you can’t really judge the handling of it. You talked about societies inability to be patient.
Then you went on to talk about Biden’s first day that was highly critical.
I didn’t consider it a good read.Read the first sentence. Read the last sentence.
Does your analysis fit my concluding and opening remarks?
In point of fact, my argument is that Mr. Biden is perfectly adequate. Not without his own errors and pratfalls. Indeed errors and pratfalls that mirror those of his predecessor and for which his predecessor was criticized.
For my part, given the unique set of circumstances, I am not inclined to judge either man harshly on this question. With the minor distinction that, as Biden has the advantage of having followed in Trump's footsteps and thus can benefit from his experience, he has somewhat less grounds for error. Albeit that imperfect beings in unique circumstances are bound to make mistakes and the public invests far too much faith in that which is so obviously fallible.We’re not writing a history book here. I’m asking if he will be able to properly handle the pandemic. Trump is gone, and I’m not one to live in the past.
How you judge something absent some metric - in this case history - to judge it by is a mystery. Please describe whether President Obama was a good President or a bad President without judging it compared to some historical standard.
Really, sir. Enough. Your mindset is vapid to the point of vacuousness. Being more about how you feel than what you think.
Forgive me if I prefer a more rigorous standard.You’re free to do what you want. But sources are important otherwise it falls on deaf ears.
We've discussed that already. Going forward, I will provide mine if you will provide yours.
Suffice to say, Tucker Carlson agreeing - at least in part, with me, will suffice in this case.
Beyond that, perhaps this will help. www.nytimes.com/.../covid-19-vaccine-doses.html
If there is any other you would like - you are free to do the research as much as I am.
P. S. Even Mr. Biden seems to partially agree with me: www.politico.com/.../biden-coronavirus-vaccine-goal-problems-457245
Hope that helps.Do you know what goals are? Here are talks about a what if scenario if people can vaccinate by the fall.
www.google.com/.../...-4960-89bc-be4977115bde.html
I go back to you criticizing Biden on his first day. They’re creating long term plans, not just 100 million vaccines in 100 days.Except that I did not criticize Mr. Biden. As I said, if you would care to read it outside the prism of your own biases, is that he is perfectly adequate. "Good enough for government work," as I said.
The ONLY distinction I make is that circumstances made it such that Mr. Trump had to blaze a new trail. Mr. Biden has the advantage of seeing what Mr. Trump did right and what he did wrong.
That said, as the embarrassment over the mask issue best illustrates, he has hardly been error free.
To repeat, given the unique nature of the pandemic - the last of this magnitude was in 1919 and it killed twice as many people and the nation's population was only 1/3 of what it is now - one should be inclined to give them some latitude.
Both have had their fair share of triumphs and of errors. Again, the burden falling on Mr. Biden more only in the sense that he is able to see what others have done and what worked and what not. Mr. Trump did NOT have that advantage and therefore Mr. Biden's criticisms of Trump were more opportunistic than principled.Except Biden has already said he’s going to make mistakes and he’s not going to point fingers.
www.thedenverchannel.com/.../press-secretary-jen-psaki-holds-2nd-briefing-of-joe-bidens-presidency
I think this is building confidence within government to work together instead of against each other. Like the way it was under trump.As you may recall, your question was whether or not the pandemic was in good hands. My reply was that it generally was with certain stipulations. Then I pointed to some obvious errors that Biden made that essentially aped mistakes his predecessor had made for which Mr. Biden had criticized him.
My point being that the public's expectations are disproportionate and that Mr. Biden was content to play on those expectations but now must be judged by them. By that standard he is adequate.
Your response has been as if I had set out to touch up the Mona Lisa with a paint gun. May I ever gently offer that you take in a broader perspective than your mere emotions and biases.Well you start most of your replies with “I’m in the middle with Biden, followed by criticisms, and not many positives. Some of your positives are of him are even more criticisms. For example you said he has the benefit of learning from his predecessor failures. Which I see it as a way to give Trump credit for anything Biden might do.
You are asking me to justify my criticisms, not defend Mr. Biden's virtues. In any case, to repeat for the 1000th time, Mr. Biden does bear a heavier burden insofar as he follows in Mr. Trump's footsteps and therefore has somewhat less basis for his mistakes.
Unlike Mr. Trump, President Biden does not have to blaze the trail but can observed what worked and what did not. This does not necessarily make Biden's job easier, but it does make things like failing to wear a mask, for which he roundly criticized Mr. Trump, and in contravention of his own Executive Order no less, that much less excusable.But he does wear mask in public all the time. Most politicians take them off when they speak to the cameras.
www.google.com/.../joe-biden-mask-mandate-lincoln-memorial-1563657%3famp=1
“ Biden did wear a mask immediately prior to the address and put one back on as soon as he finished. His family also wore masks at other times while at the Lincoln Memorial.”
"We take a number of COVID precautions in terms of testing, social distancing, mask wearing ourselves, as we do every single day."
"We take a number of precautions... I think we have bigger issues to worry about at this moment in time."
His Executive Order made no exceptions. Also, his family was not covered and Jen Psaki was not covered at her briefing. ALL of these violations of the Executive Order. (Also, when pressed, Jen Psaki dismissed it as unimportant since the President was "celebrating." Again, no such exceptions were stipulated, though I invite you to go to a Federal facility, take off your mask and when ordered to put it back on, tell them you are "celebrating" and see what weight it carries. with the arresting officer.)
In any case, Mr. Trump had NO executive order in place and was routinely berated for not wearing a mask. Here again the absurdity of the whole thing. It is not as if people wake up in the morning wondering whether or not the President is wearing a mask and allowing that to decide for them whether they will.
My point was simply to use that to illustrate the case. Overall, I repeat, there are limits of what human action - even government action - can accomplish in such matters and I am not inclined to have promethean expectations. Mr. Biden will be adequate - as was his predecessor allowing for their different circumstances - and that will suffice.
If anything, Mr. Biden will have an advantage of being able to see where Trump went wrong. He will also, thanks to Mr. Trump, have a vaccine to distribute. All in all, to repeat, "Good enough for government work."Tucker Carlson would take Satan's manhood down his throat if Joe Biden said it was a bad idea.
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Anonymous1 moHe doesn't deny it exists. He doesn't deny it's a problem. He doesn't say it will disappear magically. He doesn't deny the science. He doesn't propose drinking bleach or sticking a light bulb up your ass.
Trump had a year to do something. He tried to take credit for the development of the vaccine which had nothing to do with America or him. We found out America was offered extra doses of the vaccine, and rejected it.
And as we just found out, his administration didn't have ANY plan for rolling out the vaccine. Not a god damned thing.
So yeah, the pandemic would be in better hands if my 5 year old took control
Biden is going to do fine. And Bidens critics are just fucking nuts, like Hannity's "Bidens' first day : 400,000 Americans dead" chyron. They are disingenous, they lie, they accuse everyone else of lying, and it is disgusting.0|21|1Is this still revelant?
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- Better than it was prior, near fact at this point.
To be fair, no matter whose hands it is in, I don't think it's ever going to be in "good" hands. It's a pandemic, you're always fighting to make a bad outcome less bad at best, and more likely fighting to make sure the outcome does not get worse.3|72|4Is this still revelant? 
Anonymous1 moMuch better hands than it was with the Cheeto man. The pandemic is going to go smoothly from here and things can finally start to be normal again.2|610|15Is this still revelant?- Show All Show Less
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If that’s the flavor of freedom, why does it leave such a nasty aftertaste? 🤢🤮MAGA stands for making America great again! If you’re anti-maga, you’re anti making America great.
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“You disagree with me. You must be commie.” 🙄
I think your Cheetos may be laced with something. You should stop eating them.@UCrayCray I never said that. But if you're actively working to dismantle American culture, the family, and our society you're not pro America
oh, you're still hanging on that lie. Poor thing. That was Shillary's go-to lie to smear Tulsi Gabbard, too.
haha, you're a dumbass. Honestly what kind of a retard thinks "you probably make $2 an hour" is even remotely close to the truth to be a swipe?
@joeldalton
If I did not support Trump in this last election, do you believe I support communism?Because trumpers are fascist and that’s on the extreme right. They only see polar opposites. So if you’re not with them you’re automatically a communist. Which 99% of democrats aren’t.
Watch fascism of the 1900s. They brought Europe into ruins in the name of nationalism.
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I have no loyalty to any party. I hold beliefs that go both right and left.@UCrayCray That was a non-answer. Do you agree with the shutting down of conservative commentators on social media? Are you a fan of silencing Trump while he was still in office?
@UCrayCray no matter how you answer he has a trap card waiting for you. Really dirty way of arguing.
@joeldalton you’ve never created a good argument. You always fall back on insults.
@joeldalton
Are these conservative commentators breaking the rules they agreed to follow when they open their accounts? If they did, then yes. If they didn’t, then no. And that should go for any and all commentators. I suspect you will tell me it’s not equally applied, and I can’t argue that one way or another as I don’t have social media accounts.
Lol@ Trump being silenced. He was still the POTUS. He literally had access to a room specifically made for him to stand in and talk about whatever he wanted, and people would listen. You’d listen. I don’t get that. Does that mean I’m being silenced?@UCrayCray rules being equally applied is the 100% crux of the issue. You claim not to have social media accounts, but unless you live under a rock or gleefully love CCP brand of authoritarianism, it should terrify you that a handful of billionaire tech companies collude with a political party to coordinate silencing of dissenting voices.
If we're going to trot out the ole "incitement to violence" trope, then one has to wonder what social media companies are guilty of themselves. They fully admit that they use alogrithms to post things to your feed that "anger" you because they've found that anger gets you to click and interact.
It's been proven that targeted "get out the vote" messages can influence voter behavior. So is it ethical for these companies to donate millions to the democrat party then only put out "get out the vote" messages to only liberals on its site?@joeldalton
If they are so bad, and just the way their algorithms work are enough for me, then stop using them.
People cry about all this power these sites have, yet they fail to realize that they give them that power simply by using their services.
Choices we make. 🤷🏻♀️@UCrayCray I understand that. But then you have collusion with all of these companies so that even if you did start your own platform (i. e. Parler) then the web hosting company shuts you down as well. If you don't like authoritarian tyranny from your government, why do you tolerate it from industry? Now Parler is hosted on Russian sites.
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You see collusion. I see a united front against misinformation and calls for violence.
Do you believe posts like this should be left to stand? And if the posters on a specific site repeatedly post these kids of things? Should they be left to their “opinions?”@UCrayCray it’s no doubt that site needed to go down. These terrorist are the problem.
I think someone created multiple accounts. I looked at the likes from a couple pro trump people. 1xper accounts
@joeldalton I’m tired of seeing your same stupid ass post. Tf out here. Go be a menace on someone else’s question. If you want to provide meaningful debate, you’re welcome to post otherwise I will delete your replies.
en.m.wikipedia.org/.../Use_of_social_media_by_the_Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant
Joeldalton only post misinformation he hears from trump or Fox News.
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1171- Nothing is in good hands with him2|20|0
- No. And I will explain for several reasons.
1. When the pandemic first started, Donald Trump shut down travel to China. This was labelled Xenophobic by Biden and many Liberals. We now know that this was the right call and saved many lives.
2. We also know from studies that lockdowns are ineffective in stopping the spread of the virus and democratic run states like NY and California that have stringent lockdown procedures have overblown cases as compared to places like Florida where the lockdowns are not as severe and small businesses aren't ruin.
3. Biden plans to flood the country with 11 million illegal immigrants who we have no idea has covid or not. These immigrants are also not guaranteed to obey to mandate of following social distancing and will just increase the US population even more making the spread of the virus more likely to occur.
4. Riots that will occur due to BLM/ANTIFA are still going on. These will create super spreader events.5|31|35. Most of the corona virus deaths occurred in democratic strongholds showing incompetence of their leadership.
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@ChefPapiChulo you call all information you don't like "propaganda"
what right wing news do you regularly watch?@007kingifrit i watch right wing news daily lmao. And then i see people repeat it on GaG, people lik you.
what right wing news are you watching daily? examples please. i will ask you what was on the news yesterday too so don't lie
@007kingifrit Fox News, Ben Shapiro, few others.
"Know thy self, know thy enemy. A thousand battles, a thousand victories." - Sun Tzu@007kingifrit That's not how it works, when you create an argument, its your job to prove it right and convince the reader. I am not convinced, and its not my job to prove it wrong. I could do it very easily, but it's not worth the effort in this case.
- Lol, fuck no. He’s going to make bullshit rules that won't affect anything, but the media no longer has to make the pandemic a political issue, so now we see the media saying lockdowns didn’t help, we see lefty governors and mayors wanting to open up their economies.
And now the WHO is changing what constitutes a ‘case’. So we’ll see the numbers drop substantially, but that only proves what bullshit they are already.
Biden just put in a EO quarantining everyone who comes into the country from a foreign country on a plane. I hate to break it to his wrinkly ass but I’m not quarantining after my trip overseas in April.2|31|3- Show All Show Less
Oh boy, here comes some facts... hopefully your brain can process them.
Here’s Cuomo stating it’s critical to reopen the state.
www.nbcnewyork.com/.../
Here’s Lori Lightfoot saying it’s imperative that they open restaurants and bars
www.chicagotribune.com/.../...pf6iyk6mi-story.html
Here’s Gov. of Mass. lifting curfew
www.boston.com/.../curfew-lifted-restaurants-react
Last, but not least - and I’ll explain it to you if the big words confuse you:
The WHO stating that if you have a positive covid PCR test but no symptoms, it’s not good enough to diagnose you as being positive, you need a second, more rigorous test
www.who.int/.../20-01-2021-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users-2020-05
They also announced the current PCR cycle count is too high and can give false positives.
Please try to read a bit before you spout off.So what exactly are you trying to prove, did you read any of those articles? Because it doesn't seem like you did.
"Here’s Gov. of Mass. lifting curfew
www.boston.com/.../curfew-lifted-restaurants-react"
the restaurants were already open, they are now just allowed to serve people longer. What the fuck does that even prove?
They're continuing Trumps current plan, but Biden is taking steps further to make it the highlight of his presidency. Part of his response is to vaccinate 100million people in 100days.
Everyone has been wanting to re open everything up, and it would have happened if trump was re elected. I don't think you've ever created a good argument for all the stupid shit you say.I proved exactly what I said. These governors didn’t give half a shit about opening up their economies for a year while Trump was in office.
Oh, and here’s science that says lockdowns are ineffective
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/.../eci.13484www.npr.org/.../how-south-korea-reigned-in-the-outbreak-without-shutting-everything-down
They shut their entire country down early on. Bro you really dont fucking have a clue.South Korea locked down their entire country early on. That is a lockdown. South Korea was used as an example in the article you linked.
Sweden didn’t. They didn’t wreck their economy. Japan had low covid numbers - know why? They didn’t test anyone for covid unless they were sick.
www.dw.com/.../a-56185101
Sweden has some of the worst covid death rate.
What does Japan testing testing have to do with anything? I swear you have to be trolling me. If Japan isn't testing, that doesn't mean people dont have covid.You’re wrong about Sweden. And have you noticed you call it trolling whenever your brain can’t comprehend something?
I’ll lay it out for you again in plain English. I’ll even bullet point it for you:
1) PCR tests are flawed because the tests do too many cycles. Too many cycles is outside of the recommended usage of the test, and can pick up dead fragments of the virus or other coronaviruses (Covid-19 isn’t the only one). The World Health Organization recognizes this as do many other scientists.
2) There’s no reason to test someone without symptoms. This was Japan’s methodology. THAT is why their case count was so low. The WHO now confirms this becasue they say you need a follow-up test if you’re not showing symptoms, it shouldn’t be marked as a positive test. Once countries start adopting this methodology, the numbers will OBVIOUSLY drop. All our testing fetish has accomplished in the US is making the numbers seem worse.
3) The Democrat states in the US have had the strictest lockdowns of all the states. This has not lowered their case count. Only NOW that it can’t hurt Trump are they pretending that they wanted to open up all along.
4) Scientific studies now confirm that lockdowns are not effective in preventing the spread of coronavirus.
Do you get it now? Was I clear enough?No my brain can’t handle that amount of stupidity. People are tested to avoid the spreading, not because of some numbers fetish. And Sweden just pass laws to impose lockdowns. I literally can’t the shit you say. Its mind numbingly stupid.
Holy shit. Do you understand that Japan does not test people who do not have symptoms? This is a ‘yes’ or ‘no’ question.
you’re right, it’s rhetorical. Because you had no idea that Japan didn’t test people without symptoms. You have no idea what a PCR test cycle is. You have no idea about why too many cycles in a PCR test brings back false positives. You have no idea that lockdowns have been proven to be ineffective. You should stick to making shitty food, because you’ve got the same understanding of the world as a 12 year old.
Whoopsie. Looks like Biden just admitted there’s nothing we can do to change the trajectory of the virus over the next few months.
How’s that for handling it better?Fuck having a transparent president. I’d rather have the one who denied science and constantly lied.
You do realize that Biden ran on the promise of ending the pandemic, right? So he lied to you to get elected.
I’m sometimes shocked at the NPCs on the left.I’m expecting you to answer. Is this better? “Did Biden run on the promise of ending the virus?”
I don’t really care what you’re expecting. Trump entire presidency has been a complete disaster. Biden being honest about what he can or can’t do is a step in the right direction.
Your knowledge of the world is nothing more complex than “Orange Man Bad”. It’s sad. Since you don’t have an answer, I’ll answer for you. You were lied to by Biden. You whine about Trump’s inaction but praise Biden’s inaction. It’s so sad.
- I mean, all he has to do is cash in on the effort of people before him. Like literally, he just has to make sure the vaccines get delivered. I'm pretty sure doing nothing is his best corse of action considering it's already set into motion.
It's a little insane that less than a year and we have something like 3 vaccines rolling out.
All he has to do is not fuck it up. So I don't know what's his track record with not fucking things up that are already a sure thing?2|01|1You must not be keeping up. He’s not trump. He’s already said that he’s building off a lot of really good ideas from Trumps administration.
I'm sure he is. I'm just saying that I wouldn't really consider the pandemic "in his hands" at the moment. It's kinda already been handled.
I mean, that would be like if we were building a skyscraper and one guy assembled the team and planned it out and did the foundation and shit. And when the frame is up someone else comes in, but all that's left are the windows and furnishing... Like are you really gonna sit there and be like "is it in good hands?"
I don’t think you’re creating good comparisons. This is something that’s going to go on for the rest of the year. And is progressively getting worse.
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The vaccine is getting worse? Or the number of covid cases is?
I'm talking about the solution to the problem. What is even within bidens power to stop the spread? All he can do is try to get the vaccine out as fast as possible. And it seems like all it really needs at this point is a little guidence to make sure the train doesn't fall off the rails.
I don't get why people are acting like the president is so responsible for how it spreads. As if he can just waive his hand and make everyone stay at home.
- Biden has NO PLAN other then telling everybody to mask, pushing federal masking laws that he himself has violated, very slightly increasing vaccination rates (they were already close to a million a day when Trump left office) and just scaring everybody with stupid depressing comments like “the worst is still in front of us”.
His goal is too underpromise and over deliver. But positive rhetoric is crucial for this nations morale when it comes to the pandemic. That doesn’t mean being cavalier like Trump was but that also doesn’t mean saying stupid things like “the darkest days are still in front of us”. No the darkest days were back in March and April last year when we didn’t know what the hell this virus was.
We do know much more now. It’s not going away any time soon but we can fight it. Complete victory is only a few months away if we can get mass vaccinations rolled out.2|00|1 - The country is in a tyrants hands now. He'll turn America into a Socialist Shithole. He and the democrats just want any control over Americans that they can have. Biden and the democraps don't give a shit about actual Americans. If they did they wouldn't helped much more years ago rather than continuing to bankrupt America and just saying what voters want to hear to get elected and/ or reelected. They don't actually give a shit about what Americans actually need. Biden is a puppet paid for by Soros.0|00|0
- Anonymous1 moIt took biden what 4 hours to violate his own mask rules? His "plan" is to basically do what trump was already doing. Best hope is he doesn't make things to much worse1|50|2
They always take them off for speeches. If he’s still doing this a few months from now you’ll have an argument. Otherwise lay off the crack.
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I’ve known about it for days. It doesn’t say anything. He wore a mask throughout the day besides at moments when he was speaking to the American public.
If a few months from now he’s still doing this. You’ll have an argument. Until then you’re reaching.
yea refuses to see what bind did is hypocrisy. he will no doubt change the subject now
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nypost.com/.../biden-maskless-at-lincoln-memorial-hours-after-mandate
Here's the link again of biden not wearing a mask. I know you will ignore it and make another stupid comment I saw it. I also watched the press conference. You literally don’t have an argument. If he continues to not wear one on federal property a month from now. I’ll agree that it’s stupid and hypocrisy. As of right now. You have no argument.
why a month? he signed the order. everyone else has to follow it, but he isn't
and if it was really dangerous he would follow it, but it isn't, its just security theater@007kingifrit so mask are meant to reduce the risk. If you don’t have a mask no one is saying that you’re going to die.
@007kingifrit he had just signed it. And I haven’t seen or heard of him not wearing a mask on federal property since. Not only that be he is always wearing a mask.
- He plans to shut down the e tire country which we know for a fact doesn't work and if California and NY are anything to go by, it will be the most authoritarian our country will ever be in with blatant violations of the Bill of Rights.5|10|2
No its not, the lockdowns were most of the countries' overreaction to the virus and ended up putting their economy in jeopardy and as a result their people anyway. That is why the WHO is against it after they realized it was a mistake to suggest it in the first place to combat the virus.
I’m reading this from you and reading an entirely different thing from credible sources and what other governments have been doing.
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What makes you think the WHO isn't a credible source? https://www. MSN. com/en-us/health/medical/who-official-urges-world-leaders-to-stop-using-lockdowns-as-primary-virus-control-method/ar-BB19TBUo
Also just because other countries are doing it, doesn't make it the correct way of dealing with it.Did you read the article? They’re not saying don’t do it. They’re saying only use it to re organize. Where I live there are no lockdowns in place because we don’t have COVID here as much. These are used in the places most infected with the virus.
He did say that but he also said: "We in the World Health Organization do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus"
Not only that but over 6000 scientists mentioned in the article "Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health."
- For ones who said no explain why we would be in better hands with Trump I he literally did almost nothing to help until it was to late and everyone should remember its literally only been 3 days so you can judge anyone who's running the country in 3days and if you say he got the vaccine go look it up they had vaccine 11 hours after the announcement that covid was real it had already been made and was shelved0|00|0
Compared to Trump who had no plan whatsoever and stopped meeting with Covid task force months ago... I’d say Biden is doing better
- Of course it is. I'm sure he's in bed with a lot of pharmaceutical companies and people with special interests who can make sure that pandemics stays around for good long time and makes a lot of very bad people a lot of very big profits so yeah from their perspective it's very good hands0|10|0
- There is nothing in good hands when buying has something to do with it he is a n racist Klu Klux Klan Niger hater help you all American money to China worker son collects it she needs to be impeached1|01|5
- Did you see Dr. Fauci look like he got 10 years younger today? The guy had so much energy on the podium to say what he wanted, and basically said how relieved he was to be out of the clutches of Trump.0|12|2
@Lookingforthetruth He's an 80 year old doctor who seems to be in peak health. right, he's a hack... lmao.
Everyone was wrong in the beginning of the pandemic, even the WHO. Scientists get better over time, and he's been right ever since. Nonetheless Dr. Fauci has been in the government since Reagan years, and still looking good.
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but that's a bad thing; dr fauci isn't interested in the right things he wants fame and attention. he does not pursue the best policies for a pandemic but the best policies to give himself fame and attention
- Anonymous1 moBiden has already initiated the war powers act to fight the corona virus. He has also organized the federal government to better fight the virus, than Trump did in almost a year. So, yes. We are in much better hands with Biden. Though I think Biden will act decisively and effectively, he actually doesn't need to do much of anything, to do a better job of fighting the virus than Trump did.0|32|1
- Anonymous1 moIt was going to go away with or without Biden. Like it or Hate it, but since the States falling apart have Democratic Governors they will now get the aid they sought caused by their failures and stop resisting the Federal Government. So things will magically disappear and get better.0|00|0
- No, I don’t. I don’t think anything is good in his hands.3|71|3
- The guy made an executive order to mandate mask on Federal land, and then in the very same day violated his own order.. 😂😂.. And he signed 25 executive orders to "undo" everything Trump did, and no mention of that Stimulus the was supposed to be signed by him once he got in.. He is already off to a bad start in his first 3 days.1|10|0
- It's in way better hands than it was before.2|114|19
the question was for americans so gj you can't read. foreigners don't know how to watch American news
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@007kingifrit here i wrongly criticized a non American for talking American politics, and you came to her defense. Now here you are attacking someone for being a foreigner talking American politics.
that doesn't make me a hypocrite
she was asking a question about america, not answering one. its wrong for a non American to answer a question about america, not ask
also this asker specifically said ONLY americans@007kingifrit
"she was asking a question about america, not answering one. its wrong for a non American to answer a question about america, not ask"
i wonder how you came to that logicbecause a non American shouldn't be answering questions about america, they don't live here
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"foreigners don't know how to watch American news"
i didn't know there was a right way to watch American news.
@007kingifrit For a country that boasts Freedom of speech you really hate freedom of speech
- We know for shit sure Trump had NO plan whatsoever. Hell, he didn't even believe the virus was an "issue" or real until it was too late. At least Biden hits the ground running with an ambitious plan, whereas before, there was absolutely nothing. Nada, zero. There was Jared Kushner, for fuck's sake!1|25|1
WTF? How do you down vote FACTS, you girls especially? There was NO distribution plan in place. Did you not hear what the Governor's of various states were saying? They didn't get info, they didn't get the inventory promised, and there NEVER was a reserve being held back. For fuck's sake, wake up and get your face out of the Trump family's ass. How many lies can you swallow before you choke?
Simple. The people who downvoted are Trump supporters. They’re brainwashed. And we will both stress ourselves out trying to change their minds/get anything through their thick skulls. Let’s just be fucking happy that Biden is finally president.
@HayleyMarie Absolutely. The main thing is that douche bucket is gone. Biden wasn't my first choice, but he WAS the winning choice. Nobody who's been in politics as long as he has is spotless, but at least he's a decent enough person and compared to trump, he's a fucking saint !!
- It's already to far gone, for anyone to fix it at this point. A virus like this requires everyone to stay inside for at least 6 months. Stores only opening for short hours allowing one person per family to grocery shop... And so on. But that would cost the government our money...0|00|0
- It is an infectious disease.
It is going to run its course and burn through the world population.
World leaders cannot do anything. They are just prolonging it.0|00|0 - Considering he has made executive orders in his first few days to help the people in poverty stuggling from the pandemic and fix the damage trump has done along with putting out an order to have the military find and reunite the childen separated from their families. I think he is doing a great job so far0|20|1
- obviously, since he is a puppet of the people who created the pandemic
0|00|0Do you know what perception is and how it differs from person to person? Or do you live your life thinking you’re right and everyone else is just working for the Chinese government?
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if you do some research and start to realize that the news is propaganda and how politics really works then "your perception" would be similar to mines
- Hell no... he's a commy and guess where that corona politics come from? From china. Trump tried to stop the nonsense but the deep state was against him. Biden will make it worse.0|00|0
That’s too many buzzwords for me to give your opinion any serious attention. Boring.
Enjoy your group identity driven communist tribalism then. that seems right up your ignorant buzzfeed ally.
Socialism and neomarxism will fail. They did over a over already but i guess some people just need to experience it, to understand.
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Another buzzword lmao. I literally took a nap after reading your opinion. That shit was so boring it put me to sleep.
what did i expect from a leftist who follows the covid religion and bidens racism and sexism agenda.
and of course "papichulo" would be left, cause he is of mexican descent... like so many, immigrants vote biden, not knowing that the democrats have not ever done anything for immigrants
- Well of course it is; the pandemic has already ended as no has died from it since. Didn't you know? CNN removed the Covid death toll from their broadcasting the day Trump left office. ALL HAIL THE NEW REGIME! PRAISE THE GREAT JOE BIDEN!0|20|1
Wait, did you mean CNN taking the death counter own is crazy? That part was just factual and I would agree in that case, ha.
- When the race between Biden and Trump was tied, the mainstream media said that if Biden wins then the pandemic will go away. If Trump wins then the pandemic won't go away. Since Biden won the pandemic will soon go away.2|01|0
- Yea the scamdemic is gonna magically be ended by the liberals with more fake test results they are already saying there were false positives and they should back off and stop testing as much. Also liberal states are gonna open back up what a miracle!2|12|1
- I did say yes but, I just want to correct that it stands uncertain only time will show that he will deliver on what he stands for.0|00|0
- I think it is in better hands now then it was a week ago! We will just have to wait and see how it goes.1|10|3
its not, but the media will lie to you and cover up biden's mistakes so you'll be fooled
@007kingifrit Your wrong and I can't wait for Loser Trump to get impeached, then all his big money friends tell him to fuck off, then New York comes after him and finds him guilty of Fraud and lots him up where like all Cowards he kills himself.
you have no idea what you're talking about. he has broken no laws, he isn't going to get impeached, new york state can't do anything to him
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@007kingifrit We will chat again in a couple of weeks! That douchbags ass belongs to us the real Americans
- invalid question; the 10th amendment makes clear the president has no authority over a pandemic. its a state level issue
just as trump had no major impact on pandemic policy (except the vaccine) neither will biden3|10|0 - Time will tell how good he does. So far I see potential admitting that there is a virus and its more serious than the flu. Johnson and Johnson has a vaccine not far from approval besides that increasing the amount of vaccines available it only needs one dose and doesn't have the need for super refrigeration. Just want too get vaccinated and many more besides myself0|00|1
- Do you think the pandemic gives a fuck who the president is?1|40|0
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But how many jobs did Biden take away the first two days vs how many jobs Trump brought back to the US?
@ChefPapiChulo trump provided more jobs and was more geared towards helping Americans.
@ChefPapiChulo then pull of these statistics you speak of from a reputable site please.
@Uptowngirl88 I’m shocked you actually think it’s factual that he created jobs. I don’t really feel like posting a link at the moment. If I feel like arguing later I’ll post one.
@Uptowngirl88 they’re not hard to find. Just look up jobs created by American presidents. He’s nowhere near the top.
- Yes of course. And anything is better than the hands it used to be in.0|20|2
trump did everything right, its just the pandemic isn't his responsibility. read the 10th amendment
@007kingifrit it’s called leadership. Under trump no one wanted to work under him. He had authority but he didn’t have power the way a leader should.
thtat's an emotioanl argument, not a policy argument
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- Its a world wide pandemic. The president has very little to do with it. Only our top science researchers can help us now.0|00|0
- We'll see by the end of the year if more people have died from the coronavirus this year than last year.0|00|0
- What can he do? Push for another trillion $ of stimulus from congress? Most of the virus policies are from individual states, who then decide how to manage it:1|00|0
- le me start by saying i got no faith in politicians-a few are alright. i would say are chances are improved-but have of the country will spite him at every turn.0|00|0
- ABout the only "thing" in good hands with biden is China's future.0|00|0
- Anonymous1 moI don't think any of these clowns are good bets to be honest. We'll be best off when people can take responsibility for themselves. If we're relying on Washington, everyone's pretty fucked.0|00|0
- Anonymous1 moIt’s in better hands but until state and federal politics can get on the same page it’s still going to be a shit show1|41|2
- Anonymous1 moIt is not in his hands. It is all in each one's hands0|00|0
- It's very difficult to tell since he's only been president for just a few days. That being said, it would be very hard for him to be worse than Trump.0|00|0
- Non USA citizen here, but how can you tell his behavior? You assume this. He is in the office less than a week.0|00|0
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but biden's response during the swine flu was horrible. he failed to replace the 100 million N95 masks they used which was his responsibility as per the 2005 pandemic response plan
- Ask yourself how many jobs he cut in the first 48 hours. The virus isn’t even an issue if you lost your source of income.0|10|1
- He trusts scientists, so as long as he can convince the average moronic American to do the same, then yes.0|10|2
- Did you miss when Biden said there is "nothing we can do" about the trajectory of the virus the other day?1|00|0
- If Biden does something other than advising people to drink or inject disinfectant he will be doing a better job than Trump.
Don't drink bleach kids.0|20|1trump never told anyone to inject disinfectant. this is a framing device the media told to you that ignored the context of the conversation. and straight up lied about what he said
the context of the conversation was about theoretical medical techniques to fight the virus, and we do indeed inject disinfectants in that context. he was not telling YOU to do that@007kingifrit i wonder if you ever stop to think before posting. he literally did say that, the man is an idiot.
no he didn't, the media lied to you and told you he did. if you try and show me a video of him doing it you will come up with exactly what i just described. a framing device
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- Will be no better, or more worse, than the previous idiot in office.0|00|0
- Much better hands than the orange baffoon ex-president.0|21|1
- His plan for covid is literally no different than what has already been implemented1|20|0
- As soon as wearing a mask became a political issue, there was no hope of a rational discussion.0|10|1
- Even if you hate Biden at least you can admit he won't actively lie to the public for personal gains, and by that I mean he'll try reporting the data that comes across his desk rather than lying0|02|1
- Anonymous1 moBetter hands than Trump, in my opinion. Masks should have been mandated last year.0|20|1
- Anonymous1 moMuch better hands than it was. Finally in the hands of people who aren't proud science-deniers.0|23|5
- No. He's going to prolong it on purpose, because Democrats are fascists and they like lockdowns.1|00|1
- Well, covid cases are magically starting to decline since Biden came into office. I wonder why2|00|0
- “Lets bring in 11 million undocumented people in the US at once to fill up more hospitals, what could go wrong?”2|00|2
- I'll be honest. I'm not a supporter of him or Trump. Both could be dumped but I do not believe anything is good in his hands.0|10|0
- Anonymous1 moFor the 60% who said no, did you vote for the guy and if so why would you vote for someone who you didn't trust could handle the situation. Also, there was almost 100 million vaccines administered before biden took office.0|00|1
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