Thoughts on abortion?

[Cecirose]

I agree with with it

I do not agree with it

[nightdrot]

The British statesman and political philosopher Edmund Burke wrote, "The effect of liberty to individuals is that they may do as they please. We ought see what it will please them to do before we risk congratulations." Therein lay the problem with laws that permit abortion on demand.

A society that premises its law as "Choice"- to use the locution of abortion rights advocates - effectively leaves open the question of the value of human life. It becomes not a standing principle, but a subjective judgment to each individual. In such a society, human life becomes not an end in itself, but mere instrument. Life becomes not an object whose preservation is the highest standard, but rather a convenience to be maintained or not according to the satisfaction of another's will.

We shape our laws and then our laws shape us - see also the civil rights laws of the 1960s which have effected a revolution in race relations. (The idea that a black man and a white man cannot sit together at the same lunch counter is as alien to this generation as Neptune. Yet in 1965 it was pretty much the norm.)

Inherent then in the pro-choice argument is the idea that life has no value save that which each person chooses to attach to it. It denies society any authority to make a collective judgment on such questions. Therefore, in this view, the law may not afford protection to life except at some arbitrarily defined (and inherently subjective) point.

This then conduces to an assertion of power over rights. Life is maintained not as its own end, but according to the will of the person who, effectively, controls it because they can. An ethic of convenience is established and it is a slippery slope on which to build a culture and a legal edifice.

Such a society will not value life that sees life as not an end, but as a means to some other end. Indeed, that is why at about the same time as the culture began to shift on the abortion question we also saw a rise in child abuse, spousal abuse, divorce, out of wedlock births and other social pathologies. These were not unrelated phenomena.

Aristotle said that the first questions of politics are, "How ought we to live? What kind of a people do we wish to be?" The implicit answer of those who support abortion on demand is, in effect, that it is nobody's business. Predictable results follow. One cannot expect the society to absent itself from collective moral judgments on the value of life and then expect an ethical social order to result.

[ChrisMaster69]

It’s one of those necessary evils.

there are a multitude of reasons why it is required, however it is the girls choice, but often it’s a joint choice.

just think if men wore condoms, or we have a male pill, then men would not be responsible for so many unwanted pregnancies.

equally if women demanded a wore protection or had good management of anti pregnancy pills, morning after pills as a last resort, we would not have such an issue.

then if the religious fuckwits moved in to the modern era and out of their 6th century women hating era, we might have proper debate and rules in place.

[Cdnowl]

I honestly don’t know how I feel. I think there are circumstances that would make me say it’s ok. But really I don’t know what I’d do if that choice was put on me and I was dealing with it.

[stardust2021]

I agree with it. As a woman, it’s my choice if I want my body to carry and give birth to a child.

[TOTEMPLASTER]

murder of innocents is murder regardless of how thick the sugar-coating justification is layered on.
Given the large and totally effective before, during, and after contraception options available it is sheer laziness and/or stupidity for a female to become pregnant today - excepting sexual assault.

[Sargentcaptain]

Depends on how long was the baby alive. I don't care that much about it though, the thing that gets me are imbeciles on the left who never address other people's arguments. These nut cases just wanna call you sexist for being against, what people see as, murder.

[Egirl28]

Its murder to me. I can't see a reason to take a human life.

[psychoticanimaIIover]

There would be far less of them if right wingers got on board with socialism.

[Dchrls78104]

Abortion is murder. "Thou shalt not kill." People who cannot handle the responsibilities that sex entails should not engage in it.

[havingfun101]

Abortion kills more people than heart disease, cancer and homicide combined; women are the most prolific mass murderers of all time.

[Cicero79]

If women would actually take control of their reproduction systems they would only get pregnant when they wanted to.

Problem solved. Everyone is happy.

[Anonymous]

Women have the right to abort their babies, and men have right to not pay child support.
My body, my choice
My wallet, my choice.

[Avicenna]

It's very bad but sometimes necessary

[chriscdi]

tbh i really dont care

[DavidFox]

Wish less if it happened

[zxczxczxc43434]

i do not agree with it its murder

[Rangers]

It's murder and should be treated as such

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I neither agree nor disagree. It's a choice.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I don't support abortion but i support choice

[Slim57]

Poorest solution to birth control

[Jack9949]

Its murder.

[NorthwestRider]

None of my business

[Iron_Man]

I don’t like it