Do you think that math is racist, and focusing on the “right answer” to math equations is an example of white supremacy?

[Anonymous]

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is bankrolling a group of activists who believe math is racist.

A group of fringe educators have compiled a six-part toolkit offering an “integrated approach” to developing an “anti-racist math practice” viewed through a social justice lens. It chides the “concept of mathematics being purely objective” as “unequivocally false.” It argues focusing on the “right answer” to math equations is an example of white supremacy.

Yes

No

We didn't get to Mars with wrong answers to math equations

Lordy, what will be bitching about next?

A total of 157 votes were cast: 43 girls and 114 guys. See detailed results

[Miristheiss]

This has got to be the most IDIOTIC, STUPID, MORONIC thing I have EVER, EVER heard.
These people are utter psychopaths.
No... being really good and well training in math helps you get good paying jobs in STEM fields and/or put you on the path of being a teacher or professor.

These people sitting around thinking this SHEEET up are idiots. School boards and teachers should SHAME and SHUN idiotic ideology like this.

Worry about getting the USA back into the top 10 of world education rankings and drop all of these stupid, useless, copout doctrines like this. Students will rise to the level of expectation... quick lowering the bar and inventing phantom scapegoats to excuse poor grades and not understanding basic, universal, foundational educational/learning concepts.

[Asker]

Great reply. We just keep lowering the bar in this country, and we keep falling behind. We can't say he or she, because it's offensive to someone. Now we've stooped so low that math and science is racist.

I read a story, and and at one point, California was going to ban red ink that teachers used to grade papers. They said it was too traumatic for the students.

[Solo22]

Just can't make this shit up.

[Asker]

No you can't. And it's just going to get worse.

[Mia-Wallace]

Nah.

Math problems have a right answer and if you can't solve them you're not being discriminated, you either don't have the education or the processing power up there in your brain.

[Asker]

That makes sense to me.

[jeemm]

Reminds me of this

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Zh3Yz3PiXZw

[Asker]

That was fucking hilarious. I'm still laughing.

[razelove]

Yeah, I agree with D, in these jacked up times we need to elevate judge judy as our entire form of government with no checks or balances. She'll get it done. If she doesn't, well, things can't get worse, and until it all crumbles they will certainly be more amusing.

[Asker]

So what is your answer to the question? Is math racist?

[razelove]

No, thinking empirical evidence is racist is racist, the logic starts getting so convoluted it disgusts me. I say if it really is getting this ridiculous, raise it to 11, fuhrer judy for life.

[razelove]

Then have Sylvester Stallone actually start the hall of justice and judge training program, I mean, hell, why not, no war or anything is going to topple the US, we're eatting ourselves apart like termites with PC nonsense, everything is racist, sexist, homophobic.

Sigh, I say let the ridiculousness spin out and reach its inevitable climax which is the country imploding from any number of factors, might as well make it fun while it happens.

[Asker]

I agree with that to a degree. I think we should all do our part to help crash the system. I'm a white, heterosexual male, but as of tomorrow, I'm identifying as a black, lesbian woman.

I'm going to putting that on all applications, and I'll sue if they don't honor my new black heritage.

[razelove]

Well, the flip side to that as well, which I find interesting, is saying that if you believe math is racist, and needs to be dumbed down, really you're saying whites and Asians do too well compared to one or more other minorities, so that curve needs to be flattened.

I do believe that's why you won't find many specifics on the nature of how math is racist, because you can empirically prove that it is not, but there are ethnicities that on average do better or worse on tests. It's why no one's taking up the cause for Asians being discriminated against in college entrance exams, they're a minority being discriminated against, but there's no story of helplessness or pulling up from the slums... because the problem is they score too high compared to their peers on average, so get their grade weighted because of their race.

Mmm, the smell of equality.

[Asker]

Asians don't count. Whenever the topic of racism comes up, we all know what race they're referring to.
You won't see the media or Hollywood propping up Asians in TV commercials or movies.

[HiveBee]

They think black people are too stupid to do math. Except they aren't racist because they're here to help them! Lol.

Basically everything on earth we have today is a result of white colonialism. So when you add whites doing better than blacks in school, it's because of colonialism creating systems only whites and apparently Asians can thrive in. Meanwhile blacks are just wired differently and cannot succeed in white created systems.

Apparently. Damn who are the racists again? Lol.

[Asker]

The people peddling this moronic shit are the racists.

[EssenceOfLight]

Math is the supremacy of universe we are living in.
I understand that for some people is conventional math sometimes to abstract to comprehend and math learning systems like common core should help people with problems. However, common core is effective just for simple mathematical functions, you can't use it for complicated calculations. I think people who don't understand conventional math will have problems in further education anyways. Of course calling everything racist that doesn't fit liberal narrative of reality is the new US way of life, but I don't think this is a long term solution.

[God_of_Thunder]

First of all, this "program" is not advocating that 2+2=4 is incorrect, at all. They are not proposing that the problem is the outcome of the equation. Math is math; it only has one correct answer. They are proposing that the way teachers interact with their students is somehow wrong. That telling them their answer is incorrect, creates a negative environment for the students, and that the classroom/learning environment needs to be changed to a more positive structure, and not just reading/memorizing books.

Secondly, the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation apparently donates to some education group that is a "parent" of these lunatics, rather than directly to this advocacy group.

Lastly, yeah; it's fucking dumb as shit.

[Asker]

I grasp all of that, and the Chinese are laughing at us, and cheering this shit on.

[exitseven]

The thing about math is that 1+1 must always equal 2. Pretending that is not true just because some people cannot grasp the concept or are too lazy to try to understand it will not magically make 1+1=2 into something you can have a debate over.
Life is full of absolutes and I would wager that when Bill Gates ran Microsoft if one of his employees tried to peddle that crap to him he would have been terminated.

[Asker]

Billy boy would have never accepted less than perfection.

[AdithyaR]

That's absolutely stupid. Math is based on logic, it's a scientific method.
It's supposed to be one of the few things that are purely objective.
1 1 is always gonna be 2 and rhagt isn't racist, it's just simple additon.
Some people will honestly get offended by the most ridiculous things.

[Asker]

I guess their ideal world would be...

1 + 1 is usually 2, but it all depends on your perspective. Anyone who guessed 6 or less, is right.

[AdithyaR]

😂😂😂, some of my friends will probably pass math finalt then

[AdithyaR]

Finally

[Asker]

My friend points out a funny scene in Pirates of the Caribbean.

The pretty girl is being taken hostage by the bad pirates, and she says: "But what about the pirate code?"

Bad guy: "The code is more of a guideline, than actual rules..."

This new math should be called: Pirate Math

[AdithyaR]

I like it

[KrakenAttackin]

Priceless!

I remember watching a documentary about the last Mars rover. The whole team was seen sitting at a large round table and of course there was the token black woman. When interviewed she introduced herself as the "human factors " person... yeah, it's an unmanned mission.

[Asker]

She played a very important role.

[KrakenAttackin]

This is all just a part of the left's plan to destroy everything the really matters.

[Asker]

And oddly enough, they think this will somehow benefit them in the end. I totally get how the Chinese love it, but how the American libs love it is beyond me.

[KrakenAttackin]

Well, Liberals are mentally ill. It's like wondering why a mental case likes writing on the walls with his own feces. There is not rhyme or reason to it, it's just crazy.

[Asker]

But it's now the worse it's ever been. Even AOC is calling crap on some of the shit the left is doing. And that says a lot.

[kimbim]

Lol, another example of the human species' spiral downward

Soon noone can read write or add and subtract

I think in 6 to 8 generations we are monkeys again

I encourage people to watch the movie "idiocracy" with Mike judge and Ethan Cohen

If nothing else is extremely funny

[Asker]

The only thing about that movie that isn't realistic, is that they say this won't happen for 500 years. It's happening right now.

[kimbim]

Exactly exactly. People are getting dumber and dumber at a phenomenal rate

[iGodric]

What the hell is wrong with the world? Why can't this guy and his wife just go buy a sports team or yacht why are they always trying to screw our lives with their ideas of what they think best.

Who asked these people to solve problems that do not exist? Why do they think we need them to do this? Like why

[Asker]

I liked Bill Gates when he was just a successful computer guy, but now he wants to get involved in vaccines and just about everything else. I think he's gone off the deep end.

Do you think that Microsoft would ever have hired someone who couldn't do math?

[Savage_Wisdom]

Everytime I think SJWs can't get any more stupid, they manage to outdo themselves and prove me wrong.

[Asker]

It will be pretty hard to top this one.

[Savage_Wisdom]

Don't challenge them, they love to prove you wrong.

[Asker]

Give them one week, and I bet they do.

[Y2KxD]

I guess those two wankers should give all of their money and any other wealth to minorities, since old billy wanks used math to make all his money, therefore making him racist. This is such a joke, and the world is laugh6 at us. Now tell these stupid motherfuckers to get the hell outta my house!

[Asker]

I wish they'd just go back to Africa.

[Avicenna]

In Asia, Math Education is excellent because they don’t have Race hucksters involved in setting the curriculum

[Asker]

That's why we have that special class of visa that gets those types of people to America. It really breaks my heart that America has to import these well qualified people We used to have the shitty jobs that Americans wouldn't do, and now we have high paying jobs that Americans CAN'T do.

[Anonymous]

No, math is an old discipline and tool since 100 of years before christ. It is the discipline with the purest logical arguments in the world. No logical arguments can make it racist. wtf

[Asker]

That's what I was thinking. A few years back there was a city back East, and a group sued the city because they said the fire science test you had to take to become a firefighter, was racist. LOL

I've asked people to give me an example of a fire science question that could be racist, and so far no one can come up with one.

[TadCurious]

I think it's racist to believe that people who aren't white can't do math or calculate correct answers.

[Asker]

I often wonder how blacks feel about white virtue signalers coming to their rescue and making them look helpless.

[TadCurious]

I would have to think it's very demeaning.

[ralphphilip83]

I happen to be an Indian electronics engineer living in the US, and people assuming I can’t do my job because I come from a poor country is the most racist experience I’ve had.

[BCA6010]

Math has objectively right answers. It has nothing to do with race.

People like Bill Gates get off on playing the peasantry for fools.

[Asker]

It would appear.

[Unit1]

We didn't get to Mars with wrong answers to math equations!

Humanity is past it's peak intelligence levels. From now on it all goes only backwards. We no longer evolve, we instead devolve.

[Asker]

I think we hit our peak in the 1930's, and we've been slipping backward ever since. If you haven't already seen it, watch the comedy: "Idiocracy."

It shows you how stupid people will be 500 years from now.

[Unit1]

I saw it's trailer. I get the message of that movie.

I am pretty sure our peak was around 2000. Or maybe humans were always this dumb but there were no widely available data to indicate that. I understood as soon as people got obsessed with phones and social media, that it's the end. Intelligence is a dying breed.

[Asker]

This started when you no longer had to be able to afford kids. You could just have them, and the government would pay. That's what that movie was all about. So maybe it wasn't in the 1930's, but maybe in the 1960's.
The crux of the movie is that the dumbest of the dumb are breeding like rats.

[Unit1]

Heh. True! Even I myself was the moneybag to be milked from (the government issued child support to my parents). The poor (and unintelligent) breed like rabbits indeed, thus, feeding and repeating this vicious cycle.
Damn it!

[Anonymous]

I sure hope this is a joke, but after the last year or so, nothing surprises me. I swear... everything is racist now.

[Asker]

It's not a joke, and I do believe that everything is now racist.

[Opinion Owner]

The liberals are destroying this country.

[Holisticapproachsara]

Imagine? They have integration problems in math too!!!

[Asker]

Yes, it's so crazy.

[ralphphilip83]

Ha! I see what you did there!

[JDavid25]

I don't know anybody who elected Bill Gates to be anybody besides the guy who immensely profited off of selling computers..

[Asker]

Now he wants to give you your vaccine.

[JDavid25]

They can miss me with that syringe..

[123lucy]

I feel like surely there's more context here. That just doesn't make any sense to me.

[Asker]

Not enough black people are scoring high enough on math testing. This needs to change, so they want to lower the bar. They want to create a system where you no longer need to provide the right answers on math tests. This would make math less racist. I hope and prey they never lower the bar at medical schools.

[123lucy]

If black people aren't scoring as highly then isn't the solution to improve education?

"a system where you no longer need to provide the right answers on math tests" - Like, that isn't maths. It doesn't make any sense. Especially in schools, proving the answer is the purpose of maths, this doesn't make any sense to me.

[Asker]

Harvard has been discriminating against Asians for years. They deduct points from their college entrance exams, based on their race. This is just a different approach to the solution,

Just make it easier to pass classes.

[ChrisMaster69]

So basically dumb it down for everyone else... just to make it easier for others.

Yeah let’s do that across the board, aircraft designers and engineers, build architects and engineering’s, let’s make it really easy, dumb down the maths the English, etc, can’t see any problems

[123lucy]

@ChrisMaster69 That's why I thought I must be missing something. I probably am, I haven't looked into it yet.

[ChrisMaster69]

There is a reason maths is taught at schools and is actually important.

The person responsible for designing or working on the airplane you fly in, the air engineer etc, brilliant at maths or crap?

It’s a case of no big smoking hole in ground or not

[vlx-na]

I'm sure Russians and Chinese would be pretty happy if you guys started to program your ICBMs with non-objective math equations.

[Asker]

Mark Twain said: "The reason that truth is stranger than fiction, is because fiction is obliged to stay within the realm of possibilities, and truth is not."

It would surprise me if we hired math drop-outs to program those missiles.

[BrosephBrostar]

I guarantee you China is not doing this shit.

[Asker]

@BrosephBrostar

Of course not. This stupid shit is more of an American/UK type of thing.

[Anonymous]

It is more racist to imply non-white people can't be expected to do well in math

[Asker]

It is, it's a real slap in their faces.

[kimbim]

Oh yeah lol. I didn't even see that. True true true

[najekim]

Answering math correctly shows intelligence. Open to any ethnicity.

[Asker]

Not if you're trying to lower the bar on math testing.

[najekim]

Well, if they want to lower the bar on math, they just may as well stop teaching it and let all the technology the US has been in the fore front on come from other countries.

[Asker]

It would seem like that's already happening. Asia and India are kicking our butts.

[najekim]

Yup. Bring back higher standards to learn to.

[Asker]

It started years ago. Work places needed to fill quotas. If you didn't have enough blacks, you got in trouble. So a company would have to hire less qualified blacks, over more qualified races.

Then it was college placement exams. Asians get deducted points for being too smart.

Now this is another approach. Just give everyone an A in math. You no longer have to understand math to get an A+.

[Anonymous]

They should make a movie: "Revenge of the Snow Flakes" LOL

[Asker]

Don't give them any ideas.

[DragonXR]

The last 6 months has made me dislike Bill Gates so much. The crap this guy comes up with is astonishing. I knew windows Vista was a sign of his brilliance going down hill.

[Anonymous]

They are funding Marxists who want to destroy society. What a bunch of idiots those two are.

[Asker]

Yes, and look how horrible society was to them. I don't understand these rich assholes that hate the country that made them rich.

[Opinion Owner]

I dont know if the Gates even know that they are funding this kind of nonsense, but it is their money and they should know

[Asker]

If they didn't know then, they sure as fuck know now. So let's see what they do about it.

[R3DthatDude]

I’m no mathematician so I am at the mercy of whatever they say lol

[Lunatic1]

No, it isn't "racist". Mathematics isn't a suggestive concept, nor is it "white privilege" to find the right answer to a problem.

[Toast792]

I- I have no words. How could someone be stupid enough to actually believe this?

[Asker]

I guess the founder of Microsoft does.

[Kas19]

I'd like more context. This whole thing is confusing.

[Asker]

Either read through the posts or break down and Google it.

[Kas19]

money.cnn.com/.../index.html

[Asker]

Okay?

[Kas19]

You didn't give any information on it. You just said math is racist without explaining what the author meant by that.

[Asker]

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! When did I say math was racist?

What the fuck is wrong with you people? LMAO

[msc545]

No, math isn't and cannot be racist. History, maybe.

[Jakeofalltrades93]

that has to be the dumbest fucking thing I have ever heard

[_no_one_]

Wtffffff?
What do u want now? Cancel math?
Pls do 🙏

[Asker]

They don't want to cancel it, they just want to dumb it down so a high school student is doing 7th grade math. That will make it more fair and less racist for the special students.

[_no_one_]

I don't know about racist but maths is ptsd for sure

[linds34]

Unimportant news story, people in academics are always sitting around writing documents, I don't see why I care about some idea that isn't even taught in an actual school.

[Asker]

It's best to not care or have an opinion until it's too late. So do you think math is racist, or is it too soon to tell?

[BrosephBrostar]

Yeah, and I remember people brushing off all of this nonsense because it "was just on college campuses".

It's not just on college campuses anymore.

[AllThatSweetJazz]

There have been pushes to get it taught in schools, if not actually having made it happen already. It’s all “nothing to worry about” until it’s too late and already snuck up on you. If you think it shouldn’t be taught in school then stop it before it gets there, not after.

[Jack9949]

Why is it always white people who come up with this BS?

[Asker]

I would guess that BLM is 90% white. I guess they are just bored.

[Jack9949]

True true

[Anonymous]

Bill owned a software house. Perhaps he's now senile.

[Asker]

I don't think he's dealing with a full deck.

[CaptainSmartass]

Oh, for fuck's sake!! Someone's gotta be taking the piss!

Simples...

[more_than_a_guy]

The heck is this? Only insecure people sees this. by the way, it's only in English.

[DCooper]

Welcome to Clown World. Enjoy your stay !

[Asker]

Yes, I know. It's libtard clown world.

[KeiaYamada]

No, math isn't racist.

[Hanoi_Jane00]

Grammar is also racist. Possibly home economics.

[Iron_Man]

No lol

[Asker]

Me either. LOL

[Babygirl_S]

This question surprised me 😂

[Asker]

Why is that?

[Tomtom9090]

Well space exploration is white supremacy

[Asker]

Everything is.

[Tomtom9090]

wouldn't have to be that way but us white people are just too damn supreme

[Jonathan2nd]

explain how do they say math is racist, full argument

[Asker]

They don't explain it. They never explain shit like this. They just want to lower the bar in math, by dumbing it down. So you have to decide on your own if math is racist or not.

[Jonathan2nd]

if they do not explain it, is because they never really said it, this is propaganda, stop watching conservative media

[Asker]

Keep your head in the sand or up your ass. You can't handle the truth. You could do your own research, but you are too lazy. Just because they didn't fully explain it, doesn't mean they never said it.

[Jonathan2nd]

you just described yourself and exactly what you do, that is why you should stop watching conservative media

[Asker]

Math is not racist, we all know that. So why would the liberals say it is, and then attempt to dumb-down math tests? I know, but I'm not going to tell you. I need for you to figure this one out on your own. And my "propaganda" was just chosen as a featured question.

But you are right about conservative media. They're gonna tell you a lot of stuff that you don't want to hear. You should stick to MSNBC, and pretend that thousands of businesses weren't burned down by the peaceful protesters.

[Jonathan2nd]

propaganda is meant to creative controversy, and controversy brings internet trafic, so of course they featured yours... lol. Whether is liberal or conservative they all do the same, and they do it to people like you. I have not watched "TV news" in over 15 years, so do not assume too much from me.

[Asker]

No, you're wrong. Propaganda is reporting things like: "America is a bad place, because..."

I simply REPORTED this propaganda is happening, and you can't deal with it. I would suggest you stay away from all news sources, because it's just going to get much worse.

I did, however, notice that you weren't able to answer my very simple question. Do you think math is racist? If you refuse to answer, you will have told me everything I need to know about you.

[Jonathan2nd]

In order to put your mood at ease, no, I do not think "maths are racist"

[Asker]

I'm glad your mood is at ease. LOL

[Jonathan2nd]

then you will be even more glad, that right know I am looking for such activists take on math being racist, I have some free time

[Asker]

The world is counting on you.

[Jonathan2nd]

I know you're counting on me, since all you wanted was to argue with someone about this math is racist, nonsense

[Asker]

Actually, it makes me sad that anyone is dumb enough to argue about this. The left said it, and I'm just presenting it. The left should be arguing with themselves.

[Juxtapose]

www.google.com/.../math-suffers-white-supremacy-according-bill-gates-funded-course-1571511%3famp=1

Dumbass..

[Anonymous]

That's a very American thing to say

[joeldalton]

🤡🌎

[disgustingweebtrash]

Math racist?