Do you think that math is racist, and focusing on the “right answer” to math equations is an example of white supremacy?

[Anonymous]

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is bankrolling a group of activists who believe math is racist.

A group of fringe educators have compiled a six-part toolkit offering an “integrated approach” to developing an “anti-racist math practice” viewed through a social justice lens. It chides the “concept of mathematics being purely objective” as “unequivocally false.” It argues focusing on the “right answer” to math equations is an example of white supremacy.

Yes

No

We didn't get to Mars with wrong answers to math equations

Lordy, what will be bitching about next?

[Miristheiss]

This has got to be the most IDIOTIC, STUPID, MORONIC thing I have EVER, EVER heard.
These people are utter psychopaths.
No... being really good and well training in math helps you get good paying jobs in STEM fields and/or put you on the path of being a teacher or professor.

These people sitting around thinking this SHEEET up are idiots. School boards and teachers should SHAME and SHUN idiotic ideology like this.

Worry about getting the USA back into the top 10 of world education rankings and drop all of these stupid, useless, copout doctrines like this. Students will rise to the level of expectation... quick lowering the bar and inventing phantom scapegoats to excuse poor grades and not understanding basic, universal, foundational educational/learning concepts.

[Asker]

Great reply. We just keep lowering the bar in this country, and we keep falling behind. We can't say he or she, because it's offensive to someone. Now we've stooped so low that math and science is racist.

I read a story, and and at one point, California was going to ban red ink that teachers used to grade papers. They said it was too traumatic for the students.

[Solo22]

Just can't make this shit up.

[Asker]

No you can't. And it's just going to get worse.

[Mia-Wallace]

Nah.

Math problems have a right answer and if you can't solve them you're not being discriminated, you either don't have the education or the processing power up there in your brain.

[Asker]

That makes sense to me.

[jeemm]

Reminds me of this

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Zh3Yz3PiXZw

[Asker]

That was fucking hilarious. I'm still laughing.

[razelove]

Yeah, I agree with D, in these jacked up times we need to elevate judge judy as our entire form of government with no checks or balances. She'll get it done. If she doesn't, well, things can't get worse, and until it all crumbles they will certainly be more amusing.

[Asker]

So what is your answer to the question? Is math racist?

[razelove]

No, thinking empirical evidence is racist is racist, the logic starts getting so convoluted it disgusts me. I say if it really is getting this ridiculous, raise it to 11, fuhrer judy for life.

[razelove]

Then have Sylvester Stallone actually start the hall of justice and judge training program, I mean, hell, why not, no war or anything is going to topple the US, we're eatting ourselves apart like termites with PC nonsense, everything is racist, sexist, homophobic.

Sigh, I say let the ridiculousness spin out and reach its inevitable climax which is the country imploding from any number of factors, might as well make it fun while it happens.

[Asker]

I agree with that to a degree. I think we should all do our part to help crash the system. I'm a white, heterosexual male, but as of tomorrow, I'm identifying as a black, lesbian woman.

I'm going to putting that on all applications, and I'll sue if they don't honor my new black heritage.

[razelove]

Well, the flip side to that as well, which I find interesting, is saying that if you believe math is racist, and needs to be dumbed down, really you're saying whites and Asians do too well compared to one or more other minorities, so that curve needs to be flattened.

I do believe that's why you won't find many specifics on the nature of how math is racist, because you can empirically prove that it is not, but there are ethnicities that on average do better or worse on tests. It's why no one's taking up the cause for Asians being discriminated against in college entrance exams, they're a minority being discriminated against, but there's no story of helplessness or pulling up from the slums... because the problem is they score too high compared to their peers on average, so get their grade weighted because of their race.

Mmm, the smell of equality.

[Asker]

Asians don't count. Whenever the topic of racism comes up, we all know what race they're referring to.
You won't see the media or Hollywood propping up Asians in TV commercials or movies.

[HiveBee]

They think black people are too stupid to do math. Except they aren't racist because they're here to help them! Lol.

Basically everything on earth we have today is a result of white colonialism. So when you add whites doing better than blacks in school, it's because of colonialism creating systems only whites and apparently Asians can thrive in. Meanwhile blacks are just wired differently and cannot succeed in white created systems.

Apparently. Damn who are the racists again? Lol.

[Asker]

The people peddling this moronic shit are the racists.

[EssenceOfLight]

Math is the supremacy of universe we are living in.
I understand that for some people is conventional math sometimes to abstract to comprehend and math learning systems like common core should help people with problems. However, common core is effective just for simple mathematical functions, you can't use it for complicated calculations. I think people who don't understand conventional math will have problems in further education anyways. Of course calling everything racist that doesn't fit liberal narrative of reality is the new US way of life, but I don't think this is a long term solution.

[God_of_Thunder]

First of all, this "program" is not advocating that 2+2=4 is incorrect, at all. They are not proposing that the problem is the outcome of the equation. Math is math; it only has one correct answer. They are proposing that the way teachers interact with their students is somehow wrong. That telling them their answer is incorrect, creates a negative environment for the students, and that the classroom/learning environment needs to be changed to a more positive structure, and not just reading/memorizing books.

Secondly, the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation apparently donates to some education group that is a "parent" of these lunatics, rather than directly to this advocacy group.

Lastly, yeah; it's fucking dumb as shit.

[Asker]

I grasp all of that, and the Chinese are laughing at us, and cheering this shit on.

[exitseven]

The thing about math is that 1+1 must always equal 2. Pretending that is not true just because some people cannot grasp the concept or are too lazy to try to understand it will not magically make 1+1=2 into something you can have a debate over.
Life is full of absolutes and I would wager that when Bill Gates ran Microsoft if one of his employees tried to peddle that crap to him he would have been terminated.

[Asker]

Billy boy would have never accepted less than perfection.

[AdithyaR]

That's absolutely stupid. Math is based on logic, it's a scientific method.
It's supposed to be one of the few things that are purely objective.
1 1 is always gonna be 2 and rhagt isn't racist, it's just simple additon.
Some people will honestly get offended by the most ridiculous things.

[Asker]

I guess their ideal world would be...

1 + 1 is usually 2, but it all depends on your perspective. Anyone who guessed 6 or less, is right.

[AdithyaR]

😂😂😂, some of my friends will probably pass math finalt then

[AdithyaR]

Finally

[Asker]

My friend points out a funny scene in Pirates of the Caribbean.

The pretty girl is being taken hostage by the bad pirates, and she says: "But what about the pirate code?"

Bad guy: "The code is more of a guideline, than actual rules..."

This new math should be called: Pirate Math

[AdithyaR]

I like it

[KrakenAttackin]

Priceless!

I remember watching a documentary about the last Mars rover. The whole team was seen sitting at a large round table and of course there was the token black woman. When interviewed she introduced herself as the "human factors " person... yeah, it's an unmanned mission.

[Asker]

She played a very important role.

[KrakenAttackin]

This is all just a part of the left's plan to destroy everything the really matters.

[Asker]

And oddly enough, they think this will somehow benefit them in the end. I totally get how the Chinese love it, but how the American libs love it is beyond me.

[KrakenAttackin]

Well, Liberals are mentally ill. It's like wondering why a mental case likes writing on the walls with his own feces. There is not rhyme or reason to it, it's just crazy.

[Asker]

But it's now the worse it's ever been. Even AOC is calling crap on some of the shit the left is doing. And that says a lot.

[kimbim]

Lol, another example of the human species' spiral downward

Soon noone can read write or add and subtract

I think in 6 to 8 generations we are monkeys again

I encourage people to watch the movie "idiocracy" with Mike judge and Ethan Cohen

If nothing else is extremely funny

[Asker]

The only thing about that movie that isn't realistic, is that they say this won't happen for 500 years. It's happening right now.

[kimbim]

Exactly exactly. People are getting dumber and dumber at a phenomenal rate

[iGodric]

What the hell is wrong with the world? Why can't this guy and his wife just go buy a sports team or yacht why are they always trying to screw our lives with their ideas of what they think best.

Who asked these people to solve problems that do not exist? Why do they think we need them to do this? Like why

[Asker]

I liked Bill Gates when he was just a successful computer guy, but now he wants to get involved in vaccines and just about everything else. I think he's gone off the deep end.

Do you think that Microsoft would ever have hired someone who couldn't do math?

[Savage_Wisdom]

Everytime I think SJWs can't get any more stupid, they manage to outdo themselves and prove me wrong.

[Asker]

It will be pretty hard to top this one.

[Savage_Wisdom]

Don't challenge them, they love to prove you wrong.

[Asker]

Give them one week, and I bet they do.

[Y2KxD]

I guess those two wankers should give all of their money and any other wealth to minorities, since old billy wanks used math to make all his money, therefore making him racist. This is such a joke, and the world is laugh6 at us. Now tell these stupid motherfuckers to get the hell outta my house!

[Asker]

I wish they'd just go back to Africa.

[Avicenna]

In Asia, Math Education is excellent because they don’t have Race hucksters involved in setting the curriculum

[Asker]

That's why we have that special class of visa that gets those types of people to America. It really breaks my heart that America has to import these well qualified people We used to have the shitty jobs that Americans wouldn't do, and now we have high paying jobs that Americans CAN'T do.

[Anonymous]

No, math is an old discipline and tool since 100 of years before christ. It is the discipline with the purest logical arguments in the world. No logical arguments can make it racist. wtf

[Asker]

That's what I was thinking. A few years back there was a city back East, and a group sued the city because they said the fire science test you had to take to become a firefighter, was racist. LOL

I've asked people to give me an example of a fire science question that could be racist, and so far no one can come up with one.

[TadCurious]

I think it's racist to believe that people who aren't white can't do math or calculate correct answers.

[Asker]

I often wonder how blacks feel about white virtue signalers coming to their rescue and making them look helpless.

[TadCurious]

I would have to think it's very demeaning.

[ralphphilip83]

I happen to be an Indian electronics engineer living in the US, and people assuming I can’t do my job because I come from a poor country is the most racist experience I’ve had.

[BCA6010]

Math has objectively right answers. It has nothing to do with race.

People like Bill Gates get off on playing the peasantry for fools.

[Asker]

It would appear.

[Unit1]

We didn't get to Mars with wrong answers to math equations!

Humanity is past it's peak intelligence levels. From now on it all goes only backwards. We no longer evolve, we instead devolve.

[Asker]

I think we hit our peak in the 1930's, and we've been slipping backward ever since. If you haven't already seen it, watch the comedy: "Idiocracy."

It shows you how stupid people will be 500 years from now.

[Unit1]

I saw it's trailer. I get the message of that movie.

I am pretty sure our peak was around 2000. Or maybe humans were always this dumb but there were no widely available data to indicate that. I understood as soon as people got obsessed with phones and social media, that it's the end. Intelligence is a dying breed.

[Asker]

This started when you no longer had to be able to afford kids. You could just have them, and the government would pay. That's what that movie was all about. So maybe it wasn't in the 1930's, but maybe in the 1960's.
The crux of the movie is that the dumbest of the dumb are breeding like rats.

[Unit1]

Heh. True! Even I myself was the moneybag to be milked from (the government issued child support to my parents). The poor (and unintelligent) breed like rabbits indeed, thus, feeding and repeating this vicious cycle.
Damn it!

[Anonymous]

I sure hope this is a joke, but after the last year or so, nothing surprises me. I swear... everything is racist now.

[Asker]

It's not a joke, and I do believe that everything is now racist.

[Opinion Owner]

The liberals are destroying this country.

[Holisticapproachsara]

Imagine? They have integration problems in math too!!!

[Asker]

Yes, it's so crazy.

[ralphphilip83]

Ha! I see what you did there!

[JDavid25]

I don't know anybody who elected Bill Gates to be anybody besides the guy who immensely profited off of selling computers..

[Asker]

Now he wants to give you your vaccine.

[JDavid25]

They can miss me with that syringe..

[123lucy]

I feel like surely there's more context here. That just doesn't make any sense to me.

[Asker]

Not enough black people are scoring high enough on math testing. This needs to change, so they want to lower the bar. They want to create a system where you no longer need to provide the right answers on math tests. This would make math less racist. I hope and prey they never lower the bar at medical schools.

[123lucy]

If black people aren't scoring as highly then isn't the solution to improve education?

"a system where you no longer need to provide the right answers on math tests" - Like, that isn't maths. It doesn't make any sense. Especially in schools, proving the answer is the purpose of maths, this doesn't make any sense to me.

[Asker]

Harvard has been discriminating against Asians for years. They deduct points from their college entrance exams, based on their race. This is just a different approach to the solution,

Just make it easier to pass classes.

[ChrisMaster69]

So basically dumb it down for everyone else... just to make it easier for others.

Yeah let’s do that across the board, aircraft designers and engineers, build architects and engineering’s, let’s make it really easy, dumb down the maths the English, etc, can’t see any problems

[123lucy]

@ChrisMaster69 That's why I thought I must be missing something. I probably am, I haven't looked into it yet.

[ChrisMaster69]

There is a reason maths is taught at schools and is actually important.

The person responsible for designing or working on the airplane you fly in, the air engineer etc, brilliant at maths or crap?

It’s a case of no big smoking hole in ground or not