Biden had 11.5 million viewers for his speech before Congress last night. Trump had 37+ million for his speech last year. Who won the election again?

[RingOfFire]

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[razelove]

This is getting crazier and crazier. We aren't even at the 1 year mark yet. What I thought when he got elected, and would be the best strategy for dems, would be for him to do absolutely nothing. Show that they can get shit done, and Trump was a fluke, legitimize themselves.

Now it's like they're trying to incite a civil war with the divisions and insanity that have been coming down in less than a 1/3 of a year. How do Dems even support that? What do they think the next 3.3 years are going to be like? America is going to be Costa Rica, but larger and with less access to clean water on this path.

[Vviiccttoorr]

Honestly a lot has been revealed about the election fraud. Trump (weather some like him or not) he genuinely had a larger fan base than biden. It’s pretty noticeable that the election was rigged when you look into it. Biden said that they have the “best election rigging system” (something like that) all the stuff with videos exposing cheaters, dead people voting which was proven despite the “fact checkers”, bellweathers in Trumps favor even “time magazine” admitted it with their “shadow campaign” etc.
Honestly it’s pretty impossible to prove biden won fair and square. Biden is a legitimate racist, incompetent, and a puppet. Again weather some hate or love Trump; he definitely had a colossal support from Americans. Also I know that there are people who know he got cheated (I know that they’re aren’t stupid) they just don’t care so they try to support biden by saying he won fairly.

[Vviiccttoorr]

I know that they aren’t stupid* LOL sorry

[Anonymous]

Many of Howard Sterns listeners hated him.
It’s not the big mystery you are trying to make it out to be.
Biden is boring. Trump says stupid shit. Who would you rather listen to?
And America didn’t vote FOR Biden. They voted AGAINST Trump. It’s not surprise that Trump could inspire the most voters to come out against him. Not a surprise to those who pay attention.

[Anonymous]

Ring, you're just jealous because Joe announced he's going to cure cancer.
All Trump did was come up with a miracle Covid vaccine.

[RingOfFire]

I'm impressed, entertained and flattered.

I almost feel like I have a secret admirer. 😉

[Opinion Owner]

Shucks... I just found those on the web. :)

[Aeon_Norell]

I know nothing for certain, but I imagine one explanation for this (if it's true) could be that people in general are less afraid of the state of the political world than they were when Trump ruled, and therefore less people feel the same need to keep an eye on what's happening.

That's at least what I notice around me (outside the US). When Trump was president, there was a constant feeling that the world could be thrown into some kind of crisis, and everybody talked about him and kept up to date with American politics.
Now I rarely hear people talk about America, because the threat of bad things happening seems far smaller.

[RingOfFire]

"I know nothing for certain, but I imagine one explanation for this (if it's true) could be that people in general are less afraid of the state of the political world than they were when Trump ruled"

I laughed so hard when I read this I couldn't read the rest. You are too far gone my friend. You've been bitten by the zombie.

[Archerer]

I was specifically zoned in on Trumps presidency exactly for this reason so @RingOfFire your narrow mindedness is what is stopping you from seeing the big picture.

[RingOfFire]

Wait until the world war breaks out because Biden is so weak and see if you are less afraid then.

[Archerer]

And what if that doesn’t happen?

[Aeon_Norell]

@RingOfFire Would you applaud such a war?

[Sargentcaptain]

I ain't saying that the election was rigged, but man this sure is sketchy for the 'most popular president in recent history'.

[RingOfFire]

Exactly so. It defies logic and reason.

[Archerer]

He isn’t the most popular in reality. Trump was just so disgustingly TERRIBLE that everyone came out and voted, not because they love Biden but because they hated Trump it was imperative to get him out of office, how do you not understand that. It’s simple game theory...

[SuccessfulHornDog]

yes indeed

[TheorionMage]

WHO's in the White House?
Who's hiding behind a phalanx of legal counsel in Florida to avoid being arrested for inciting to riot?
NY Tax Evasion?
'GAME, Set, MATCH!'

Who's 'presidential library is going to have the gold plated graven image for MAGA devotees to fellate?

[Inexpensivefurniture]

Don't know where you got 11 million from. It was less than Trump, but it was 26.9 million for Biden

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/media/551055-biden-speech-draws-226m-tv-viewers-down-from-trump%3famp

[jshm2]

You need to lay off the crack, gramps.

Viewership means little, and Trumps figures were mostly bullshit anyway. Not to mention in the middle of a pandemic, that Trump mostly caused to get out of hand...

Socialism is not what Biden is about, that's what Bernie was about. Biden is more about civilising and equalising you dimwits and reigning in the corporations.

I feel for those poor motherlovers having to walk 6000, only to see something like you shares oxygen with them.

[Anonymous]

Biden won the election. In case you don't understand, it's the person with the most votes, and the higher electoral college numbers, that wins the election. Not the one with the most TV viewers. Biden won with 306 electoral votes, and by almost 7,000,000 more votes.

[Fatherhere901]

I think a valid question is how many of the people who voted for Biden are screaming for a do over in the election?

[Soteris]

Remember when no one ever cared what the politicians said because it was so boring and everything just worked? Yeah.. boring times but sometimes boring is better than the alternative.

[BeMuse]

They could only scrounge up 11.5 million Chinamen? Low effort from the Chinese.

[jaybee281]

Imagine they didn't even vote as much for Obama as they did for dementia biden and people actually believed this bs

[wittymilf]

We loved watching Trump coz he was an idiot and you never knew what would leak out of his face 😂😂

[tartaarsaus]

Biden. He had more votes and with those got more electoral votes. Hence, he won the election.

[Soteris]

*le gasp!* Well that is news to me! Imagine my shock when I found out that more electoral votes is more votes than less electoral votes.

[andreasderjuengere]

Last year 'we' were on alert. This year we feel safer :D

[RingOfFire]

What the heck does that matter?

[andreasderjuengere]

Viewer numbers DON'T matter. That's the point. People only have an increased interest to 'watch' when there's an immediate disaster waiting. Which was the case last year. But not now.

[RingOfFire]

Don't you Democrats ever get tired of making up excuses for Biden? He's braindead. That's why people couldn't care less what he has to say. Who wants to listen to an Alzheimer's patient talk about how he is going to destroy the country?

[andreasderjuengere]

Sorry, mate: I'm not a democrat :) Presently, I see no 'party' in the world representing my own ''ideas''.
Apologies, if I was not clear enough in speech. My comment did not intend to 'support' Biden.
If it helps you: I am indeed a little irritated about him, as I don't quite see what he's working at.

Not being a U. S. citizen, I abstain from commenting on what you guys do internally. But as much of the U. S.'s doings have an influence on myself, I believe to have a right to at least have an opinion.

[RingOfFire]

You have every right to comment on any topic you wish, including US politics. And you are also right that it effects you because as the United States goes, so goes the rest of the world. The United States is the only thing standing between freedom and tyranny in the world. If we go down, you (wherever you are) go down with us.

And I can tell you in no uncertain terms, with Biden in the White House and the Democrats in charge of America, you and the rest of the world are in serious trouble. Biden is a stooge for the radical elements of Marxist communists... probably with the backing of the Chinese Communist Party.

If they are successful in their bid to convert America to a Marxist welfare state, and right now they are advancing their assault full speed ahead, your freedom will be gone forever. Nothing like this has ever happened in America. We are under attack from within.

[andreasderjuengere]

I (reluctantly :D ) admit that the U. S. are 'needed'. I see China indeed as a threat; not so much as an ideology, but they do fuck up the planet.
Just one request: PLEASE do not try to make all the world 'American' :)

[RingOfFire]

I get it that those outside of America don't like to think they are inferior. But calling attention to the fact that the United States is the most consequential nation on the planet is not the same as calling those who are not Americans inferior. It's incumbent on you to understand the difference and not be offended, not incumbent on Americans to ignore the fact that our country leads the free world or to apologize for it.

[Anonymous]

I think the issue was more that people hated Trump rather than loved Biden. We got 4 long years of the anyone but Trump candidate as president. If Republicans play there cards right they can come out of 2024 in better shape than 2016.

[Jersey2]

Anyone else notice that Biden likes to spend $1.8T to $1.9T every time he speaks! We can’t afford him. Put him back in the basement.

[OddBeMe]

Biden got more votes. It’s not about tv ratings. But yes, when a clown is elected President it makes more people watch in horror.

[Anonymous]

Biden is the most popular President in US history by votes, and he got 12 million views for his first speech to Congress and Obama got 53 million lol

[Anonymous]

People watched Trump because he was a reality tv spectacle, not a legitimate politician or leader.

[RingOfFire]

This is false. President Trump was one of the most successful presidents in history. Please read this so you will learn the truth instead of just repeating falsehoods you hear from someone else.

trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/.../

[Opinion Owner]

It isn't. I watched his speeches, and I couldn't stand him. Ratings don't equal popularity. He had no idea what he was doing. You know he had to have classes in the US constitution? And he didn't even pay attention!
That list you linked to is very simple and written by people who are biased towards him. You can find a rebuttal to the claimed if you google "Trump Administration Accomplishments - DEBUNKED".

[RingOfFire]

Personality means nothing. Accomplishments are the only thing that count. And its clear that in spite of the long list of FACTUAL accomplishments I posted, you cannot be convinced by facts. So therefore there is no use in having further conversation.

All I can tell you as that people like me are doing our very best to save the country from a threat that you are too young to understand so that you can enjoy a happy future here in America. If the Democrats are successful in what they are trying to do, your generation will be in serious trouble.

I wish you good luck.

[Archerer]

People watched Trump out of hate and fear

[exitseven]

Yeah , no kidding.

[Waldoe]

the "Poll Watchers" won

[Astarlessnightsky]

Biden.

[Joseph69]

Exactly

[JamieLoves]

Trump

[Anonymous]

Biden won, now move on.

[Agape93]

Biden lol

[SuccessfulHornDog]

Love the meme

[RingOfFire]

Thanks... just made it a few minutes ago... then had to make a second version. Feel free to spread it around!

[SuccessfulHornDog]

Will do. LOL

[MountAverage]

Biden.

[joeldalton]

81 million.

[ItsMeItsMe1989]

Biden