Is the stereotype that black men are stronger and tougher than other races of men generally true?

[Physics-Man]

Yes

No

[BeMuse]

Ha no... Africa was easily dominated by the Arabs, then by Europeans, and now even the Chinese are trying to take over the continent… Whites have been the strongest martially through history. White men are on average the tallest and strongest in the world. White men also tend to excel when it comes to very high IQ which leads to superior military tactics. The best soldiers in the world are in the USA. The US military is 70% White. That said, any disciplined person who devotes their life to specializing in a particular pursuit of athletics can excel beyond the average person of any race in that particular exercise. Why you probably see many Blacks in sports is because culturally education/intelligence is favored in the White community. For example I was a great wrestler. I managed to become a state champion in a state of over 20 million people. I completely dominated every Black guy in my weight class in my state and let me tell you, they were usually the easiest fights in every tournament. The real challenge was always some shit talking cocky hyper White guy. That said, my parents didn’t encourage me to grow up and become a professional fighter in the UFC to get my face bashed in while chasing a purse of cash, they encouraged me to get good grades and go to college. Who would want to be a fighter when they could be anything else. If you have the option to work with your mind for big money and potentially run your own company, you’re not likely to spend your time doing physical work for a living... It's a hard life. Most people want it easy if they have the option...

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Strong and tough race of men don't get subjugated, abused, enslaved and pushed around by every other ethnicity throughout out history unlike black men have endured.

Black men generally speaking and collectively don't have nor own major resources or companies, are financially broke and still under the thump of other races of men socially.

[Jack9949]

Good grief. I’d like to see you in a boxing ring with a black man.

[NorthAfrican]

In the US black men were "Bred" to be strong because slave masters wanted strong slaves to work the fields so there is elements of truth to it.

Jamaicans and east Africans are also genetically predisposed to being the fasted people on earth because their hearts pump blood faster than the rest of us, which explains why dominate the sport in Olympics.

Black soldiers, enslaved or not, have often been used as mercenaries, from Carthage to the Moors of Morocco.

Conclusion: There is some elements of truth there especially when talking about the American context, but I don't think black people are inherently stronger than other ethnic groups.

[Anonymous]

There are scaredy cats everywhere and in every group. As far as street toughs hispanics and blacks get a stereotype of being such, but whites are more regarded as mountain tough or wilderness strong. Asians usually have marital arts stereotype, but can be either city or rural, so stereotypes depend on location. Asians are generally portrayed weak as are inner city whites, but all people are different. Some say black men have higher on average testosterone, but those studies are flawed as other studies have shown.

[MCheetah]

No. Black men are no different than any other race of men. There is this stereotype because more black men grow up in tough environments and people in THOSE can't be wusses or cowards and still survive. But having gone to a high school with upper middle class black people (while I was broke AF from the hood of West Philly), I assure you "toughness" has more to do with socioeconomics than race, if at all.

[hellionthesagereborn]

No. Toughness has nothing to do with race, upbringing and personal character create toughness (and I have come across many black guys who where, to use the colloquial terminology, "pussies". The difference is in American black culture their is a weird pressure to boast and talk themselves up and that is what more then likely has lead to this stereotype).

[ChrisMaster69]

Is it actually a Stereotype?
or simply another American thing, that does not exist in the rest of the world?

here in the UK, it’s Vikings, Saxons, Ancient Celts,
I imagine the rest of Europe, Australia, New Zealand, it’s likely white dominated based on their national identity.

[hellionthesagereborn]

It doesn't really exist in the US either. The difference is that black culture in america is all about acting tough and talking one's self up so this is probably what he is refering to (their is no truth to them being tougher and I don't know of anyone who would actually believe that).

[Anonymous]

Black men generally have a tremendous amount of physical strength and speed but they are mentally much weaker. They don't seem to be able to sacrifice and do the hard work it takes to succeed. Some do, but the majority can't seem to accomplish it. Special Forces is overwhelmingly white males specifically because of mental discipline.

[Celtero]

Lol... Yes, for the most part. You look at a sport like football and blacks are very overrepresented in the playerbase.

Our bodies are different, you can see patterns but nothing is absolute.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Thats because athletics is pushed more in black communities then in white ones. I mean you go back and whites did every sport out their (and with fewer safety percautions then now), its just many blacks see athletics and music being their only "out" so to speak which causes an over representation in those areas).

[Celtero]

@hellionthesagereborn Lol, no. You can look up scientific papers comparing bone and muscle density across ethnicities.

The average height in the NBA is 6'5". I suppose according to you, basketball is just pushed more onto tall people.

[hellionthesagereborn]

So you then agree with the studies that state that blacks are on average, below average intelligence?

[Celtero]

@hellionthesagereborn Sure. You could take any two groups and studies will find differences. You could take two different groups of whites and they'd have different intelligences. So yes, I'm aware that blacks typically score less on tests. Is it biological? I don't think so.

And like I said bud, there's general patterns, but nothing it absolute. Plenty of whites are stronger than blacks, and plenty of blacks are smarter than whites.

[hellionthesagereborn]

So its biological when its something good but not biological when its something bad? Doesn't that sound a bit like rationalization? A bit hypocritical even?

[hellionthesagereborn]

Also your initial statement was that yes, blacks are tougher then whites (which again, is not correct) i. e. a generalization. You can't then say that this is not the case without rescinding the previous statement. I disagree with both statements personally, but my issue is that I find every one seems real content to claim they are just biologically superior but then the second something comes up that shows a negative it gets dismissed. Its the inconsistency of their internal logic that bothers me not the statements themselves.

[Celtero]

@hellionthesagereborn Physical differences and intellectual differences are two separate things.

Our hair and skin are different, so why is it so far-fetched that athleticism might vary?

[hellionthesagereborn]

I'm sorry, is the brain not a physical thing? Why is that where you draw the line other then because you would have to admit that it would look very bad for blacks? Again, your saying if its good its all true and because of your (superior) race, but if its bad then its absolutely every one elses fault, society etc. and can't be due to race. Make up your mind, is it race or is it not? Also while we are at it, explain how we are 99% genetically similar but blacks are radically different in composition making them superior physically to other groups? Also explain why genetics is responsible for biological development including the brain BUT the brain is not responsible for intellectual ability and thus "doesn't count"? Again its one or the other, I don't care what you pick, but you need to pick one otherwise your just racist.

[Celtero]

@hellionthesagereborn Haha, there it is, the ol' "ur racist." It's inevitable I suppose.

Like I said, you can look into studies that have found on average blacks have higher bone and muscle density. If you wanna disagree with those then whatever.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well, what do you call it when you claim your race is superior to others but refuse to accept anything that suggests they are not? Isn't that by definition racism? Or are you going to do the whole "Just because we are better then every one else doesn't mean we are saying we are superior (despite that being exactly what is being said)" argument?

As for the data, well are you going to look at the studies that show blacks have a lower IQ on average then whites? That is a legitimate study and if your going to say its race based then that applies to this, you don't get to just take the good things and ignore the bad, again that would be hypocritical and racist of you (because your trying to claim racial superiority by ignoring the bad yet attributing the good to race)?

As I said I don't believe that to be the case because those studies are outdated and don't take into account all the many other factors (you would have to compare at infancy before socialization occured (those who work out develop these things more then those that do not. Testosterone is responsible for bone density in part, but blacks and whites have the same amount (hispanics interestingly have slightly more though their is no other noticible differences)), and would also have to consider generational differences, epigenetics etc. So again, are you going to accept the scientific studies that show that blacks have lower IQ's as well or are you only going to pick and choose? Again, that was the issue, not the claim but the refusal to accept ALL of that data if you go down that line of reasoning. If you said yes, if its a scientific paper that states that (it is) then its true as well, then I would disagree but your reasoning would at least be consistent and I wouldn't have an issue with it, its again, the inconsistent application of your reasoning that is the issue and that makes this racist.

[Celtero]

@hellionthesagereborn Do you think I'm black or something? I already said they have lower IQ on average...

If you wanna believe that everyone is the same and there's no differences between races, be my guest, I'm not paid to correct people on the internet.

[hellionthesagereborn]

No, you said that it was not due to biology. So your saying they are physically stronger because of biology, but the negative trait has nothing to do with biology. That was why I was arguing with you, facts are not a buffet where you get to pick some but not others. That was my point and you keep ignoring that point. If you are going to say we are phsyically different because of race then that also applies to intellect, that also applies to negative traits.

As to what I believe, I have already pointed out their are so many other factors that are not accounted for that make those studies unreliable as an attempt to determine racial differences.

[hellionthesagereborn]

So again, are blacks less intelligent but also tougher because of their race or are they not, its a very simple question and one that should be readily answered by you (but I have a feeling you don't like the optics of it)?

[Anonymous]

You should watch the reality competition show "The Challenge."
Black guys hardly ever win that competition.
There's 3 athletic white guys who regularly win the whole thing and it's not a coincidence.

[anylolone]

Not really, some African ethnicities do have more testosterone, which drives a need for activity and muscle mass.
On aggregate of ethnicities, this is true, but it's better to treat people like individuals.

[EssenceOfLight]

Those blacks who come from Maghreb Africa aren't really physically strong. Maybe they are good marathon runner but I had to bet in fights I wouldn't bet on them.

[TheBigGuy9]

It’s the simple truth. I don’t like being told how to think lol. I already know my thoughts are pure.

[JesseJayNeak]

Strength is a white man trait. Our trait is speed. Since black are original from Africa and Africa is a hot continent, having a lot of muscle is a handicap

[Anonymous]

I think they have bigger bodies and more muscles, so yes. Different races of people are different physically, not because of the color of their skin but because of all the genes they've inherited.

[007kingifrit]

no, they have the highest rates of obesity. they are VERY unhealthy

[Anonymous]

Nope , as a White Male this is made up shit people say

[Jack9949]

Of course it is! Black men were bred for hundreds of years to be slaves. I’m not endorsing slavery but it did have a correlation to “survival of the fittest”

[kevyhanma]

Did you not see those Hungarian weight lifters in the olympics they were fucking huge

[Anonymous]

Yes it is. Black men are extremely realistic and tough people, at the same time their work ethic has been lost through the centuries of being enslaved. You can see how that has translated into them being relatable artists and cultural geniuses.

[Browneye57]

Only if they ARE. Otherwise they're not.

[7771999]

It's not even a stereotype

[ChiTown33]

Of course not.

[Batuthekhan]

from my experience: yes