What's your opinion of the new George Floyd statue?

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https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/700-pound-george-floyd-statue-unveiled-at-newark-city-hall/3111822/

Whats your opinion of the new George Floyd statue?

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I personally think it's over the top. Yes, George Floyd brutal death brought a huge spotlight to police brutally that has been going on for several decades in the U. S. but to honor him with a statue is ridiculous.

Statues are for men and women who accomplished great milestones and greatly impacted society in a positive manner through their endeavors.

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ohshee | 1.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Master

I want to know why he doesn't have a gun in his hand or why there's not an old lady there laying on the ground you just had one of those dudes pistol whip or why there's not a bunch of drugs laying around to the selling the people here's all these kids shooting fucking other kids every fucking day guess what I need to look at this statue and say fuck it doesn't matter what I do in my life I'm going to get a statue of me made when I go do something stupid it sends the wrong message that's for sure

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Goforit1010 | 2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

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In 50yrs or so, the "new" woke crowd is gonna "cancel" his ass for being a drug-fueled thug who robbed stores and held people at gun point. They're gonna hate him just like they hate Robert E. Lee, Andrew Jackson, George Washington, and others. That statue won't be sitting there for too long before it's spray painted (tagged).

I'm sure the family's happy about it. That and the $27 million the city gave them before the trial was under way. And the BLM jerks STILL don't think they have "justice" from this situation.

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ColleenFisher

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They were “Woken” by the Democratic Party to distract us from what they’re doing to destroy our country. Let’s not let them! 👏🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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ColleenFisher

They were “Woken” by the Democratic Party to distract us from what they’re doing to destroy our country. Let’s not let them! 👏🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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Sarahr123 | 154 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Yoda

It’s pretty weird. I didn’t even know this existed but that’s funny I mean it is sad he was murdered but to create a statue of him is definitely OTT because he hasn’t contributed significantly to society to have a public statue made of him which was paid for by taxpayers. If his family wanted one of him they could have one in their garden or something but yeah this is strange. A memorial bench + plaque would have been more apt.

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Vixxxen

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Disgusting. Why are we making criminals martyrs? It's ridiculous.

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Exterminatore | 1.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

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I think it’s a waste of tax payer dollars to honor someone who’s only claim to fame was possibly being a murder victim. Floyd was certainly not a good person considering his criminal record and addiction issues.

Being black in and of itself doesn’t make you a hero. Being a black guy who got murdered doesn’t make you a hero in and of itself.

Being a person addicted to opioids and having been convicted of breaking and entering and battery on a pregnant woman in the commission of a crime not only doesn’t make you a hero but it makes you a scumbag that lacks penitence.

It should be melted down and made into something useful…like ammo for the National Guard to use to stack bodies in the streets the next time a bunch of SJW’s think it’s acceptable to rape, murder, loot, and burn all summer.

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Hispanic-Cool-Guy

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Floyd did have a criminal past but that was behind him as he tried to turn his life around. Secondly being addicted to drugs doesn't make someone a bad person.

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Exterminatore

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Bible defines addictions as sin. Sin is another word for evil. What is someone who practices evil? A sinner. Yes, being an addict is the opposite of self control, which the Bible defines as one of the fruit of the spirit. So, yes, Floyd was a bad person.

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Hispanic-Cool-Guy

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You don't know Floyd's heart unlike God. Many people are unwillingy suffering from addictions around the world due to broken down health reasons wheather, mentally, emotional or physically.

Moreover, many people are healed everyday from their addictions and they are decent people. I've met one who was addicted to drugs before. Don't judge what you don't know.

Substance abuse is linked to people who often are suffering health problems, that need medical help.

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Exterminatore

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Unwillingly suffering? The Bible defines being a drunkard and by extension drug addict as sin. How is it unwilling? Did someone force them to become alcoholics and drug addicts. Look at steps 5 & 8 from AA. Know what those are about? Accountability. It’s the addict coming to an understanding they alone are responsible for their addiction. No one forced them to do this. They chose this.

I don’t need to know Floyd’s heart because I can see the worms of the flesh in his life choices and aware of any public or private proclamation of him coming to faith and repenting. Perhaps he’s dead because God has executed judgment on him. He was clearly an addict until his dying day. It is known from the coroners report he had Fentanyl in his system.

“Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6:9-10‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Says right there no drunkard shall inherit the kingdom of God.

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Hispanic-Cool-Guy

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You're not understanding. There's a difference between a full blown person that enjoys their sin and evil vs someone who terribly dealing with past or current trauma wheather physically, emotionally or mentally that got hooked on pain killers and one thing led to another which caused a horrible negative experience that led them to become addicted unwillingly to substance abuse to a nightmare they are going through medically wise who need medical assistance. Get a clue. 🙄

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Exterminatore

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I don’t see anywhere in scripture that God makes that type of destination.

Scripture says no drunkard will inherit the Kingdom of God. Doesn’t say if you’re a drunkard due to past trauma it’s ok. When is it ok to sin? Can’t claim Jesus while actively and intentionally living in sin.

““Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7:21‬ ‭ESV‬‬

“Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him,”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:4‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Being an alcoholic or drug addict is a sin regardless of the reason for the sin and scripture is clear that those who willfully live a lifestyle of sin won’t see the kingdom.

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Hispanic-Cool-Guy

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It's why I said God knows people's hearts and future. Unlike you and I you can't know people's hearts.

God knows those who are medically struggling with a illness that leads them into addiction and those who indulge in pleasure of wickedness and are hell bent staying in that condition.

God isn't willing that any perish but to be saved. And for the record no human being is "good" only Jesus Christ is good and righteous all together.

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Exterminatore

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I think this is going over your head. No need for him to know hearts in this situation. Drunkenness is a sin. The scripture says drunkards (alcoholics and drug) addicts will not go to heaven. Period. Unless they repent. Scripture doesn’t allow room for someone who practices sin to enter heaven.

George was not a person who got hooked while receiving medical treatment. Most addicts aren’t. The ones that do become addicted have a responsibility to seek treatment. Those who do not are unrepentant.

This is really simple. God is not going to say to someone: “ohhh you’ve abused drugs unrepentantly for 2 years because you got addicted after your surgery…free pass.”

It is true to say there is a difference between falling in the mud and choosing to lie there. It is true we struggle with sin. So far as I can tell the one who is not trying is not interested in repentance.

Looking at Floyd’ we see a man with a violent criminal history, he resisted arrest just prior to being put on the ground and was high at the time. He encountered police for trying to pass counterfeit currency.

Ultimately God will judge but looking at what I see I don’t see a repentant sinner. I see someone who was sinning right up to his dying day.

If God isn’t wiling any should parish then I can just live in sin and know I won’t go to hell right? Jesus must be ones savior but also their Lord. One cannot receive salvation for continual and willful disobedience to their Lord.

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Hispanic-Cool-Guy

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Smh. I never said drug or alcohol addiction wasn't sin, I said God knows people's hearts and future.

What if I would I have died when I was living sin back in Collage? God knew my heart and future and gave me a chance to repent and to be saved.

Floyd was a Christian who had a horrible criminal background yet struggled in his life. I think Floyd is saved though.

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Exterminatore

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@hispanic

“No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3:9‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Meaning that yes, it is possible for a Christian to sin. It’s possible for a Christian to fall into a period of sin or even grave sin (but likely brief in duration). Why? Because he’s been born again. God’s seed is in him. The Holy Spirit will not let the Christian be comfortable in sin. The Holy Sprit will cause conviction and a desire to repent. The Christian, one who has been truly been born again cannot live in sin continually. They cannot practice sin, meaning they can’t choose as a permanent lifestyle from which they won’t repent what they know to be sin. It is literally impossible for someone who has been born again to do this.

Compare and contrast that to someone who practices sin…for example someone who has been a drug addict for years. This person is comfortable with sin. This person does not have any major objections to sin. Yes, they may abject to a drug addiction eventually due to the consequences they suffer from it but they won’t object to it on grounds God calls it sin and is unhappy with it. This person practices sin. It’s a habitual life style pattern for them which they are quite comfortable with.

So yes, God knows the heart which we don’t. We also has God’s word which counsels us. The book of 1st John has 2 major purposes behind it. The first was to correct error brought on by false teachers. The second is to provide the believer with proof as to whether of not they’re saved. There are about 7 or so different things in 1st John that clearly indicate salvation. One of this is a hatred for sin and an inability to continually live in it without repenting.

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Hispanic-Cool-Guy

Floyd did have a criminal past but that was behind him as he tried to turn his life around. Secondly being addicted to drugs doesn't make someone a bad person.

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Exterminatore

Bible defines addictions as sin. Sin is another word for evil. What is someone who practices evil? A sinner. Yes, being an addict is the opposite of self control, which the Bible defines as one of the fruit of the spirit. So, yes, Floyd was a bad person.

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Hispanic-Cool-Guy

You don't know Floyd's heart unlike God. Many people are unwillingy suffering from addictions around the world due to broken down health reasons wheather, mentally, emotional or physically.

Moreover, many people are healed everyday from their addictions and they are decent people. I've met one who was addicted to drugs before. Don't judge what you don't know.

Substance abuse is linked to people who often are suffering health problems, that need medical help.

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Exterminatore

Unwillingly suffering? The Bible defines being a drunkard and by extension drug addict as sin. How is it unwilling? Did someone force them to become alcoholics and drug addicts. Look at steps 5 & 8 from AA. Know what those are about? Accountability. It’s the addict coming to an understanding they alone are responsible for their addiction. No one forced them to do this. They chose this.

I don’t need to know Floyd’s heart because I can see the worms of the flesh in his life choices and aware of any public or private proclamation of him coming to faith and repenting. Perhaps he’s dead because God has executed judgment on him. He was clearly an addict until his dying day. It is known from the coroners report he had Fentanyl in his system.

“Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6:9-10‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Says right there no drunkard shall inherit the kingdom of God.

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Hispanic-Cool-Guy

You're not understanding. There's a difference between a full blown person that enjoys their sin and evil vs someone who terribly dealing with past or current trauma wheather physically, emotionally or mentally that got hooked on pain killers and one thing led to another which caused a horrible negative experience that led them to become addicted unwillingly to substance abuse to a nightmare they are going through medically wise who need medical assistance. Get a clue. 🙄

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Exterminatore

I don’t see anywhere in scripture that God makes that type of destination.

Scripture says no drunkard will inherit the Kingdom of God. Doesn’t say if you’re a drunkard due to past trauma it’s ok. When is it ok to sin? Can’t claim Jesus while actively and intentionally living in sin.

““Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7:21‬ ‭ESV‬‬

“Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him,”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:4‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Being an alcoholic or drug addict is a sin regardless of the reason for the sin and scripture is clear that those who willfully live a lifestyle of sin won’t see the kingdom.

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Hispanic-Cool-Guy

It's why I said God knows people's hearts and future. Unlike you and I you can't know people's hearts.

God knows those who are medically struggling with a illness that leads them into addiction and those who indulge in pleasure of wickedness and are hell bent staying in that condition.

God isn't willing that any perish but to be saved. And for the record no human being is "good" only Jesus Christ is good and righteous all together.

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Exterminatore

I think this is going over your head. No need for him to know hearts in this situation. Drunkenness is a sin. The scripture says drunkards (alcoholics and drug) addicts will not go to heaven. Period. Unless they repent. Scripture doesn’t allow room for someone who practices sin to enter heaven.

George was not a person who got hooked while receiving medical treatment. Most addicts aren’t. The ones that do become addicted have a responsibility to seek treatment. Those who do not are unrepentant.

This is really simple. God is not going to say to someone: “ohhh you’ve abused drugs unrepentantly for 2 years because you got addicted after your surgery…free pass.”

It is true to say there is a difference between falling in the mud and choosing to lie there. It is true we struggle with sin. So far as I can tell the one who is not trying is not interested in repentance.

Looking at Floyd’ we see a man with a violent criminal history, he resisted arrest just prior to being put on the ground and was high at the time. He encountered police for trying to pass counterfeit currency.

Ultimately God will judge but looking at what I see I don’t see a repentant sinner. I see someone who was sinning right up to his dying day.

If God isn’t wiling any should parish then I can just live in sin and know I won’t go to hell right? Jesus must be ones savior but also their Lord. One cannot receive salvation for continual and willful disobedience to their Lord.

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Hispanic-Cool-Guy

Smh. I never said drug or alcohol addiction wasn't sin, I said God knows people's hearts and future.

What if I would I have died when I was living sin back in Collage? God knew my heart and future and gave me a chance to repent and to be saved.

Floyd was a Christian who had a horrible criminal background yet struggled in his life. I think Floyd is saved though.

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Exterminatore

@hispanic

“No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3:9‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Meaning that yes, it is possible for a Christian to sin. It’s possible for a Christian to fall into a period of sin or even grave sin (but likely brief in duration). Why? Because he’s been born again. God’s seed is in him. The Holy Spirit will not let the Christian be comfortable in sin. The Holy Sprit will cause conviction and a desire to repent. The Christian, one who has been truly been born again cannot live in sin continually. They cannot practice sin, meaning they can’t choose as a permanent lifestyle from which they won’t repent what they know to be sin. It is literally impossible for someone who has been born again to do this.

Compare and contrast that to someone who practices sin…for example someone who has been a drug addict for years. This person is comfortable with sin. This person does not have any major objections to sin. Yes, they may abject to a drug addiction eventually due to the consequences they suffer from it but they won’t object to it on grounds God calls it sin and is unhappy with it. This person practices sin. It’s a habitual life style pattern for them which they are quite comfortable with.

So yes, God knows the heart which we don’t. We also has God’s word which counsels us. The book of 1st John has 2 major purposes behind it. The first was to correct error brought on by false teachers. The second is to provide the believer with proof as to whether of not they’re saved. There are about 7 or so different things in 1st John that clearly indicate salvation. One of this is a hatred for sin and an inability to continually live in it without repenting.

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Savage_Wisdom | 770 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Yoda

He was a repeat convicted violent felon who was drunk and/or high, tried to pass off a shitth fake $20, resisted arrest, pretended to be claustrophobic, and then died. If he should be remembered as anything, it's as a person who got what he deserved, even if it shouldn't have happened like that.

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Anonymous

If you want to make a saint out of a deeply flawed character, that's your thing. In reality, it's very common to do so.
If you dig into the past of many of the iconified figures, you'll find good and bad because behind the furore, they were real people who often achieved extraordinary things. If only notoriety. I'm not sure the current rash of activists and wannabes understand this but hey perhaps they'll learn more nuance when they grow up.

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Anonymous

Wait I didn't even know there was a statue! Honestly I doubt they needed to commemorate his death as if he was a savior, I mean wasn't he some type of criminal? But maybe a symbol to represent police brutality and have a lost of names etched into it would I think be a cooler idea.

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exitseven | 6.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Master

You just can't make this stuff up. Meanwhile statues of war heroes and ex presidents get destroyed and nobody gets arrested.

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Nikolai2004

Xper 4

I'm coming to America just to vandalize this fucking statue. Well not really but if I get the chance I definitely will, I ripped every single BLM poster off near me and stole every single LGBT flag flying unattended.

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nolabels | 170 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Explorer

I had no idea that this was in the works, but I predicted it.
Ridiculous.

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The_Maphio | 779 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Yoda

Sad, pathetic, and telling of what the moral compass of today's America is.

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OfDeath | 2.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Master

When I think of all the people George Floyd robbed and hurt, I wonder how they would feel seeing their assailant or thief exalted the way George has been. They'd be asking where their statue for being a victim is.

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Anonymous

a statue for a felon with a massive criminal wrap sheet. it's newark which explains the backwards assed mentality it's newark which is enough said about that shithole city. so where are all the other statues for all the other black felons who got killed by trigger happy white cops according to those whacked out liberal nutjobs? newark the second biggest shithole/hellhole in the entire US

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ManHater | 1.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Yoda

They turned a criminal into an idol. hahahaha! what a dumb stupid idea. i would drill a hole in his goin and put a dildo there and drill a hole for a cigarette.

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lpoots | 540 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Yoda

look like a 19c sculpture
in brooze
of any 19c person

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KrakenAttackin | 2.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Guru

Fucking hell. This guy represented the worst in society and now he is a folk hero.

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andreasderjuengere | 4.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Master

It hurts no one.
But they could have made the bench a little wider; George takes up too much space.

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najekim | 1.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Yoda

IMHO, statues are for bona fide heroes and for people who have done great things for the benefit of their country as a whole. Mr. Floyd was just a victim of an unfortunate incident.

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DaveToo | 800 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Yoda

A statue for someone murdered by police. I agree with the sentiment but I'm not sure how long it will be relevant.

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SamFromFL

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He is a hero

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NorthAfrican

1 y
@SamFromFL He's more of a symbol than a hero

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DaveToo

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@SamFromFL He died in police custody. He should never have died in police custody. But the NAACP and others have made it an issue that should have been addressed generations ago. For that, he's a hero.

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Exterminatore

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No. Audie Murphy was a hero. George Floyd was a violent drug addict who cared for no one but himself.

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Lilvee

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@Exterminatore idd add his death was also most likely self inflicted as with the statement from the prosecutions own medical specialist that the judge really didn't want said even threatening a mistrial about he had a 98% blood oxygen saturation level... in other words he did not suffer from hypoxia which happens when one suffocates... if he did not get suffocated and he didn't have his neck snapped or what not what killed him? was chovins knee kryptonite or poisonous? (sarcasm) no he would likely of died of a overdose weather he was pulled onto the ground by police or sleeping in his bed were ever he was staying but simply the fact police were involved in his final hours not only has seen a man who i honestly cannot see proven guilty within a reasonable doubt but also somehow turned what was a rather pathetic man whos only contributions to society were violence and theft, into some kind of religious esc martyr... if only to be used by groups like blm and antifa as some kind of trump card... its sickening how far we have fallen

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SamFromFL

He is a hero

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NorthAfrican

@SamFromFL He's more of a symbol than a hero

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DaveToo

@SamFromFL He died in police custody. He should never have died in police custody. But the NAACP and others have made it an issue that should have been addressed generations ago. For that, he's a hero.

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Exterminatore

No. Audie Murphy was a hero. George Floyd was a violent drug addict who cared for no one but himself.

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Lilvee

@Exterminatore idd add his death was also most likely self inflicted as with the statement from the prosecutions own medical specialist that the judge really didn't want said even threatening a mistrial about he had a 98% blood oxygen saturation level... in other words he did not suffer from hypoxia which happens when one suffocates... if he did not get suffocated and he didn't have his neck snapped or what not what killed him? was chovins knee kryptonite or poisonous? (sarcasm) no he would likely of died of a overdose weather he was pulled onto the ground by police or sleeping in his bed were ever he was staying but simply the fact police were involved in his final hours not only has seen a man who i honestly cannot see proven guilty within a reasonable doubt but also somehow turned what was a rather pathetic man whos only contributions to society were violence and theft, into some kind of religious esc martyr... if only to be used by groups like blm and antifa as some kind of trump card... its sickening how far we have fallen

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josephinelcajon | 707 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Yoda

He was a criminal on drugs

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TheFlak38 | 2.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Master

In a fucked up society it's to be expected to have statues of career criminals and shit stains.

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Anonymous

Countdown until some feminist complains that he's man-spreading...

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EnglishEuropean | 2.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.

Yoda

This right here is why people hate SJWs.

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