Why do people think Trump will do a good job in Bad economic times, when he couldn't do well in good economic times?

[Anonymous]

He didn't do that well when the economy was going well, he just continued the Unemployment, economic growth trend that was going up during Obama's last years. He didn't payback any debt or anything.

So why do people think he will do so well now, when he left such a mess?

I don't know why people would think he will do well

I do know, and I'll explain why

[OfDeath]

People are just morons. Trump was a guy who withdrew funding from the WHO during a global pandemic, is a climate change denialist with unsustainable ideals and labelled covid-19 a hoax while the mortality rate for it in the US was over 7% (not 0.007% like the fucking moron hellionthesagereborn falsely states) - that's almost 7 deaths for every hundred cases. The rate continues to be just over 3% even with vaccines and the world mortality rate sits at just over 2% (https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid ). He ridiculed the use of masks and downplayed the importance of social distancing to try and gain popularity among the morons and the ideologically deluded.

His economic plan was based on short term gains. Things like lowering taxes for the high end of town has short term effects which end up being wiped out by the national expenses which are caused by corporate greed. His economics were based on being reelected and not on improving or even sustaining the nation.
Trump was a huge step backwards for America.

[Not_Average]

What you’re saying is factually incorrect. As someone who studies economics all day, there’s no deniability that trumps unconventional approach to expansionary policies had a huge benefit to the American people. What you’re saying is factually and equivocally untrue. You don’t have to like Trump to acknowledge the economy did extremely well. There are some things that I didn’t like, and things I did like. Application is subjective, but the data all showcases that Trump had a great economy pre covid, and he had an entirely different approach.

[Not_Average]

www.bloomberg.com/.../trump-s-economy-really-was-better-than-obama-s

[Ez-Bri-Z]

He added 6 trillion to the debt and most of the success was based on policies put in place that he rode the coattails of. Later successes were done out of tax breaks for corporations.

His politicization of the pandemic is still having a negative impact on our economy as a lot of places could have been opened sooner had he actually taken it seriously and encouraged mask usage.

The stimulus checks and unemployment checks under Biden, while mired in good intentions, only further exacerbated the issue with employers finding it harder to bring in employees again. This just goes to further show that people are just genuinely stupid in taking the short term gain instead of the long term one of steady work. They are thinking good jobs will be available when the checks ended and everyone else is banking on the same thing.

Also you linked an opinion article which sort of taints it as a fact based article. Even if we take it at face value and look at what forecasters predicted, it just goes to show they were wrong just as they were about Biden's first job #'s forecast.

Heck, if we even look at how polls for the election were done and how Hillary was expected to win and the predictions for certain states were anticipated to play out it is clear the whole presidency was an exercise in going against the expected norms. Nobody had ever seen a president like him (and hopefully never will again) and it messed up their predictions. We need to see how this plays out over the long term and see what effects these 3 presidents, along with a once in a lifetime pandemic, had on an economy before making a fully formed decision on how good any of them truly did.

[Not_Average]

@Ez-Bri-Z Do you understand that there’s good debt and bad debt? Good debt and running a strategic trade deficit has so many benefits. The idea is to leverage debt towards growth and then repay the debt. His approach towards expansionary policy was great in my opinion.

I disagree with Trump starting the politicization of covid. I think the democrats are responsible for that. It sounds like we’re mostly in agreement though

[Ez-Bri-Z]

I'm gonna need more explanation on the democrats being responsible for that to make an informed decision there. I only remember one party making outlandish claims and screaming about "my body, my choice" when it came to a worldwide pandemic killing millions. I'm not saying you are completely wrong and democrats may be just as responsible (I'm a centrist by the way), you are just going to have to help me get there mentally on that part.

I understand good debt vs bad debt, but I dont think this was good debt. Had that money gone to keeping smaller business afloat then I may have agreed with you, however it didn't and even the relief plans that were supposed to go to help legit businesses ended up being a slush fund for his friends and supporters in some cases.

[Anonymous]

We got JoJo the clown, now, so everything is going to be just fine.

[Not_Average]

Lmao

[Opinion Owner]

https://i.imgur.com/dgBrKwZ.mp4
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[hellionthesagereborn]

I'm sorry what? What Trump inherited was a shit economy and under him we had the best economy we ever had until DEMOCRATS decided that we needed to shut down the entire nation (except of course their big business campaign contributers who where allowed to operate without issue) in order to "Prevent" the spread of a virus with a.007% mortality rate.

So the reason why they think he did well was because you know, he did well. What obama did was return us to sub optimal levels that he ruined, what trump did was bring us up to where we where before obama and then EXCEEDED IT. Its easy to return to normal, its hard to go above that and that is exactly what Trump did. Even economists admited as much. You leftist are quite insane (or stupid. Or both.).

[Anonymous]

Trump has a cult following, that believes he has a golden touch. They think anything he does, turns to gold, and it's very much a fairy tale. In reality, what turns to gold, is every time Trump takes a public stand, and wants donations. Trump gets richer, by once again, conning the left.

[loveslongnails]

When it comes to that man, who the hell knows why people think anything good of him at all. He's a vile scumbag narcissist who's so delusional he believes his own lies. From a business standpoint, he's gone bankrupt at least 4 times, fucked over Atlantic City and is now under indictment on 15 counts of alleged tax fraud, which of course he didn't do or know about, if you're a trumper.
A Complete List of Donald Trump’s Business Disasters (gawker. com)

[loveslongnails]

gawker.com/a-complete-list-of-donald-trump-s-business-disasters-1764151188

[tartaarsaus]

People give far far too much credit to any president when there are good economic outcomes and presidents get way too much shit for bad outcomes. The reality is that the economy is a slow-moving vehicle that can be adjusted realistically only very slightly by the president himself. The fundamentals of a performing economy extend way beyond any president’s power anyway

[tartaarsaus]

For example, when we’re talking about the massive tax reform, we’re talking about GDP growth of barely a tenth of a percentage increase (meanwhile bloating the debt, which is arguably worse). The fact of the matter is that presidents have little impact on the economy itself.

[Snakeyes7]

The months before covid hit were according to Jim Cramer the best numbers in our lives in terms of jobs. Unemployment was at 3.5% in December 2019. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/06/cramer-like-or-hate-trump-these-are-the-best-numbers-of-our-lives-on-jobs.html

[888theGreat]

He really turned things around fast, that is why we withstood a shut down of the economy. I think we would have collapsed without Trump.

[Anonymous]

Because he did do well. He had record highs in 2019 -- in spite of all those working against him. Even after covid, the things he wanted to do were plainly better than what many states implemented. The problem wasn't with his policies, it was that they *weren't* implemented.

[FilmGuy93]

Every President works with the economy he/she inherits from the last President, but Trump did a pretty good job with the economy, actually. The economy is the only thing I agreed with Trump on.

[Asker]

But he just inherited a good one and left it in a bad condition

[FilmGuy93]

Your statement is factually false. www.washingtonpost.com/.../ Even this article, which paints Trump's economy in a not so good light clearly demonstrates that Trump was carrying the economic energy forward from the Obama years at worst. This article fails to take into account the strength of the USD and the American market strength internationally. Trump was good for the economy, even with the pandemic. He just was.

[Not_Average]

The intellectual dishonesty within that article is mind boggling. Economics can be consider a dismal science, and it’s extremely easy to manipulate public sentiment when the mass public doesn’t even realize the different types of unemployment and how they measured it. How misleading it is. How they acknowledge a trade deficit without acknowledging all of the other variables that tie with that. I’m not here to debate, because it would take an entire day to explain everything. It’s just really disappointing to see such a high degree of intellectual dishonesty within American Politics. As someone who studies macro economics, it’s just frustrating to see this.

[FilmGuy93]

@Not_Average Bro, I feel your pain. I studied to be a Journalist myself but decided not to pursue it as a profession because of how dishonest the media was being. Trump was a pretty damn good president. He just was.

[SmokinAces2000]

Because Trump supporters are sheep who will follow their king until their last breath like he’s God and I’ve actually heard people compare Trump to God 😂 R-I-D-I-C-U-L-O-U-S

[Twalli]

I think his support is because he's abrasive and an asshole. His proponents think that makes him a string abd imposing figure as opposed to an asshole

[NightHawk99]

I too wonder why he thinks he can win a game that's already over.

[EnglishEuropean]

People watch CNN or Bloomberg and think they know about the economy. The American economy is on life support. Why do you think the government is mailing people free money?

[FunkyMonkee]

A better question is; why do you let factions like CNN brainwash you?

[Texasguy99]

He was a horrible president but the economy did well. Bc we gave companies tax breaks they returned to the us and helped lower unemployment. It went to shit at the end bc of the pandemic.

[888theGreat]

He was a great President , not as good as Reagan , but best since Reagan.

[Anonymous]

It will be same when it will be time for next one and all after him/her...

People just need to hate someone, with reason or without and media knows it.

[NoLookingAtSoleil]

Intellectual property no longer has to be given away to China freely

[888theGreat]

Trump made himself a Billionaire. How much are you worth genius?

[Dargil]

Because he did and would again.

[JesseJayNeak]

Tell me what Biden has done was so memorable

[Anonymous]

Trump is a skid mark in American politics.

[Pterodon]

He did excellent