You wouldn't say the same if I made a video saying "you're just frightened of gun ownership because you think I'll come into your kids school and shoot it up. You are correct!"
@thotmas97 Christians and anyone who won't sell them a wedding cake because of their religious convictions of same sex marriages. Any straight would just go to another bakery. But gays have to make a big stink and sue the bakery and drive it out of business. Yeah, real tolerance there. But what the hell, they are LGBT so they are special. In a pigs ear!
@thotmas97 So wait, Muslims can wear head scarves, even in the military when others can't. So why can't straights have religious convictions? Why are Christians not allowed something gays are? What's next, them getting their own check out lanes at the grocery store or getting to drive in the car pool lane because they are bi sexual and they want that to count as having 2 people in the car?
The general rule of rights is that they extend so far as another persons. For example, a Muslim is allowed to wear a headscarf in public, they are not allowed however to perform an honor killing. A Christian is allowed to do or wear whatever they want, so long as it doesn’t go against someone else rights. Gay people aren’t getting special privileges by being able to be served at whatever business they want, because literally everyone else gets to as well. Gay people can’t open a bakery and not serve Christians so your argument makes no sense.
If I made my own religion, and decided that it was in the name of my religion that all proponents of it assault all women named Daniela who were born in 1982, that would be totally legal by your own reasoning.
@thotmas97 Well you are free to go show your support at a gay pride parade. So do it. Just don't expect everyone else to be down with it or want their children to be indoctrinated into the gay life style. That's like a pedophile grooming kids for their own purposes.
@thotmas97: Some things should not be satirized, especially in a political climate where efforts are being made to indoctrinate children. Even worse, there are reports that a number of men in this so-called choir are actually registered sex offenders. I don't know if that's true, but if it is, there is no way that video should have been produced and you can't simply write it off as satire.
What are you going to tell a young child who saw the video?
“Some things should not be satirized” sounds a little pc to me. The joke here is that your kids are gonna grow up more tolerant than you regardless of what you do. I’m sorry that think such a message is so harmful that it should be censored.
Also, what “reports”? I have no idea what you’re talking about. Sounds like a bunch of gossip made up by reactionaries who got mad at this video.
@thotmas97: I didn't interpret it as you did. I don't think we should be sanguine about such messages when there are some predators out there looking to groom young children. Protecting a child is a parent's primary task.
The lyrics are, and I quote, “we’ll turn your children into accepting and caring people. Make them wear pleated pants, we don’t care. We’ll convert your children. We’l make them tolerant and fair.”
Within the context of some people (not everyone) having an agenda about teaching certain things in a classroom to young, impressionable children that constitute indoctrination, no, it's not appropriate to make such a video, and it's anyhow questionable as to whether it's just satire.
“Certain things” aka the fact that gay people literally exist instead of doing what schools have been doing for decades and just sheltering children from reality.
Typical of leftists, not only have you dehumanized people who don't agree with you, you don't believe they have parental rights (which are part of basic human rights).
People are protective of their children, something you don't understand.
I’m sorry when did I say you don’t have parental rights? Or this another situation where you don’t seem to be able to parse basic language? You can do whatever the hell you want, but I’m perfectly in my right to point out your stupidity.
@thotmas97: Since you're a typical know-it-all, intolerant leftist, it doesn't occur to you that there are different perspectives. Read the articles I linked to, and this one too;
Well I can fathom *why* you think differently, gay people were not accepted when you were growing up, they were seen as perverse people who engaged in fetishism and were more the butt of jokes than they were an actual community. Now that’s changed, and the common trend of regarding them as abnormal is now taboo, so having a younger generation learning to be accepting of them you see as unnatural. But since you can’t call it that you resort to making up stories and calling gay people sex offenders so you can feel like you’re doing a noble thing when in actuality you’re just upset at how much the world has changed. Did I come close?
Seriously it’s not that deep does your generation just divide brain cells amongst yourselves or did 40 years of doing nothing and stuffing your disgusting faces evaporate whatever intelligence you once had?
@thotmas97: Your claim that "... they just got awarded equal rights, what, 5 years ago?" is false, and you say the schools will just teach "LBGT history". It's more likely, as the articles show, that indoctrination will be "taught", as your own comments indicate. Apparently you're far too ignorant to see why your "like 5 years claim" is false.
But the larger takeaway from your comments are that others must be "accepting" of what YOU want them to think, no matter how inaccurate it is. It's up for all people, including young people, do decide for themselves what they think and believe. And you're far too ignorant to see the danger of telling someone what they have to believe.
Finally, you're also incorrect about what I said regarding sex offenders. I stated quite clearly that it had been reported that some of the members of the choir singing that "children would be converted" were sex offenders. I also said that I did not know if that were true. You, on the other hand, falsely claimed I "made up stories and called gay people sex offenders", i. e., you falsely accused me of calling all gay people sex offenders. You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own, made-up facts.
You can't get facts straight, can't read, and you make stuff up in false accusations. And then you have the temerity to insult the intelligence of an entire generation. You're too stupid to realize your own ignorance and indoctrination.
People will draw their own conclusions from a variety of sources. They don't need your indoctrination.
Yes, I’m the one prone to indoctrination, not the idiot who falsely claimed that these men were sex offenders because they read it on Facebook.
Also you’re right, it wasn’t five years ago. It was six. My mistake. Clearly I’m not as well versed on lgbt history as I thought. Also the articles explicitly states that lgbt history is the curriculum that is going to be added to these schools. Apparently you’re too dumb, much like the rest of your generation, to read anything past a headline.
No one, particularly not the people who made this video, are saying anyone “has” to believe anything. Contrary to what your Facebook feed has told you, no one is being sent to fema camps for wrongthink. The reason younger generations are more accepting isn’t because their teachers are telling them to be, it’s because society is general is more accepting, and therefore they pick up that it’s not abnormal. There’s no amount of whining you can do that is somehow going to reverse it, just like how your parents probably were disgusted when black people intergrated, and your grandparents definitely would’ve been.
Also I didn’t claim you call all gay people sex offenders, only that it’s a tactic dumb reactionaries use to pretend your position is a noble one. Something you clearly fell for because the people you implied were sex offenders are in fact, not sex offenders. Google is your friend, I know technology scares you but it really helps in situations like this.
@thotmas97: If you had actually read everything, genius, you would have seen what would be covered in that curriculum in at least one of the places it's been implemented. It's a Grievance Studies-style indoctrination, and it was pointed out that there things being taught in at least one place that aren't true, e. g., the claim that the 15th President of the US was gay, something for which no evidence exists.
Apparently you're too ignorant to know what rights ecompasses. Tell me, for example, when did gays get the right to vote? The right own property? The right to education? You said they didn't get rights until 5/6 years ago- a blanket statement.
Furthermore, you continue to make false claims about what I said, i. e., that it was REPORTED some of the members of the choir were sex offenders. And you're claiming that none of them are sex offenders. How would you know that none of them are?
Because I have this thing called “google” and sex offender registries are easily available to the public. If one of these people were sex offenders, it would be incredibly easy to figure that out. Yet, there doesn’t seem to be any actual “reports” that they are. I’m going to give you a little homework I’ve already given to someone else, who by the way admitted they were wrong. If you say they’re sex offenders, then why don’t you show me where you got that information? Cite your claim.
Equal rights means literally an equality of rights. This is sort of difficult to grasp so you’re gonna have to follow along slowly. Equal rights means that all rights are EQUAL among ALL groups. Meaning that if there’s a right that a certain group has that another doesn’t, then logically, the group that doesn’t have that right is not EQUAL. It doesn’t matter which right that is. Black people didn’t get equal rights when they got the right to vote, did they?
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It's obviously a spoof, but in very poor taste, what if straight people made a video similar saying that we convert gay people to being straight?,,,
At no point in this video no anyone say that they’re converting kids into being gay you guys are just too lazy and stupid to watch it
@thotmas97 the implication is very strong here, and yes I have watched it,,,
They've been "going too far" for over a decade, my friend.
Michael knowles lol. The poor mans ben shapiro.
no the lgbt community hasn't gone far at all really
I mean they just legalized gay marriage. Thats a win but still not far enough
These people are very sick people. Women love them because well they are women and women can't be trusted with making choices.
Only trumptards could fall victim to fear mongering over obvious satire that's mocking their paranoia.
sorry gay blade , but it happens all the time
You wouldn't say the same if I made a video saying "you're just frightened of gun ownership because you think I'll come into your kids school and shoot it up. You are correct!"
@888theGreat Did someone convert you as a child?
Homosexuality is a phenomenon that disrupts the social order. Block this or it will be the end of you.
It's to be expected when you close the institutions that kept the liberals locked up in padded cells where it was safe
They show their privates and come on to kids in their parades. They are sick bastards.
Sexualizing children is bad idea. always let children chose whenever it is
Exposing children to secondhand smoke is irresponsible and reprehensible. The same is true for LGBT.
Why do you care what your kids do in the privacy of their bedroom
I don't want my kids to grow up to be degenerate cucks, I want them to grow up to be strong American men and women.
Whats it matter if theyre American, German, chinese or arabic. Is life some kind of racist competition
“We’ll convert your children. We’ll make them tolerant and fair.”
Yes! I can see why some people may have a problem with that. 🙄
By tolerant and fair, what they really mean is "violent and degenerate"
Guess you must have got your gay speak decoder ring in your Fruit Loops, because all they actually said was “tolerant and fair.”
Funny how gays want straights to be tolerant of them but they themselves are not tolerant.
What aren’t they tolerant of?
@thotmas97 Christians and anyone who won't sell them a wedding cake because of their religious convictions of same sex marriages. Any straight would just go to another bakery. But gays have to make a big stink and sue the bakery and drive it out of business. Yeah, real tolerance there. But what the hell, they are LGBT so they are special. In a pigs ear!
By that logic were black people intolerant of people who wouldn’t serve them 50 years ago?
After all, they could’ve just gone to a colored only restaurant. Why would they care if a racist didn’t serve them?
@thotmas97 So wait, Muslims can wear head scarves, even in the military when others can't. So why can't straights have religious convictions? Why are Christians not allowed something gays are? What's next, them getting their own check out lanes at the grocery store or getting to drive in the car pool lane because they are bi sexual and they want that to count as having 2 people in the car?
The general rule of rights is that they extend so far as another persons. For example, a Muslim is allowed to wear a headscarf in public, they are not allowed however to perform an honor killing. A Christian is allowed to do or wear whatever they want, so long as it doesn’t go against someone else rights. Gay people aren’t getting special privileges by being able to be served at whatever business they want, because literally everyone else gets to as well. Gay people can’t open a bakery and not serve Christians so your argument makes no sense.
If I made my own religion, and decided that it was in the name of my religion that all proponents of it assault all women named Daniela who were born in 1982, that would be totally legal by your own reasoning.
@thotmas97 Well you are free to go show your support at a gay pride parade. So do it. Just don't expect everyone else to be down with it or want their children to be indoctrinated into the gay life style. That's like a pedophile grooming kids for their own purposes.
Nothing in this video had anything to do with the “gay lifestyle” and I’m fairly convinced none of you bothered to watch it.
@Daniela1982 perfectly said, there was a case in Northern Ireland a while ago just like this,
@Daniela1982 indeed, gay men are often very transphobic eg,,,
That's definitely going too far
No adults should be messing with anyone's kids.
I take it you’re not a fan of the onion
@thotmas97: Some things should not be satirized, especially in a political climate where efforts are being made to indoctrinate children. Even worse, there are reports that a number of men in this so-called choir are actually registered sex offenders. I don't know if that's true, but if it is, there is no way that video should have been produced and you can't simply write it off as satire.
What are you going to tell a young child who saw the video?
“Some things should not be satirized” sounds a little pc to me. The joke here is that your kids are gonna grow up more tolerant than you regardless of what you do. I’m sorry that think such a message is so harmful that it should be censored.
Also, what “reports”? I have no idea what you’re talking about. Sounds like a bunch of gossip made up by reactionaries who got mad at this video.
@thotmas97: I didn't interpret it as you did. I don't think we should be sanguine about such messages when there are some predators out there looking to groom young children. Protecting a child is a parent's primary task.
Well no, it’s not my interpretation, those are the literal lyrics. Did you even listen to it?
The lyrics are, and I quote, “we’ll turn your children into accepting and caring people. Make them wear pleated pants, we don’t care. We’ll convert your children. We’l make them tolerant and fair.”
Like at this point I’m convinced that none of you ever bother to listen to or mind the stuff you get upset at.
www.sfgate.com/.../...-public-S-F-high-6405899.php
abc7news.com/.../
www.psychologytoday.com/.../lgbtq-inclusion-in-elementary-schools-what-teachers-can-do
www.nbcnews.com/.../california-s-new-sex-ed-guidelines-encourage-teachers-talk-students-n1003596
Oh no not sex Ed!
Next thing schools are going to be telling kids that gay people are a thing that exist!
I’m sorry dude conservatives are a fucking stupid breed
Within the context of some people (not everyone) having an agenda about teaching certain things in a classroom to young, impressionable children that constitute indoctrination, no, it's not appropriate to make such a video, and it's anyhow questionable as to whether it's just satire.
“Certain things” aka the fact that gay people literally exist instead of doing what schools have been doing for decades and just sheltering children from reality.
Typical of leftists, not only have you dehumanized people who don't agree with you, you don't believe they have parental rights (which are part of basic human rights).
People are protective of their children, something you don't understand.
Kids know who exists, and that isn't what is being taught in some public schools.
Let kids be kids and enjoy their childhood.
I’m sorry when did I say you don’t have parental rights? Or this another situation where you don’t seem to be able to parse basic language? You can do whatever the hell you want, but I’m perfectly in my right to point out your stupidity.
Ok so if they know about gay people why is teaching kids about them an issue? Kinda contradicted yourself there dummy.
@thotmas97: Since you're a typical know-it-all, intolerant leftist, it doesn't occur to you that there are different perspectives. Read the articles I linked to, and this one too;
www.inquirer.com/.../...lans-mandate-20200120.html
The relevant schools aren't "just teaching that LGBT exist". There is no need to do that, everyone knows they "exist". So what are they teaching?
But a great genius like you can't fathom why someone might think differently.
Well if you’re so curious they’re teaching lgbt history. Seems pretty relevant, given that they just got awarded equal rights, what, 5 years ago?
Well I can fathom *why* you think differently, gay people were not accepted when you were growing up, they were seen as perverse people who engaged in fetishism and were more the butt of jokes than they were an actual community. Now that’s changed, and the common trend of regarding them as abnormal is now taboo, so having a younger generation learning to be accepting of them you see as unnatural. But since you can’t call it that you resort to making up stories and calling gay people sex offenders so you can feel like you’re doing a noble thing when in actuality you’re just upset at how much the world has changed. Did I come close?
not a Thomas thinks when someone shoots another person it was a joke too.
Some gay guy—“your kid is gonna grow up tolerant”
Every brain dead conservative—“this is literally murder”
Seriously it’s not that deep does your generation just divide brain cells amongst yourselves or did 40 years of doing nothing and stuffing your disgusting faces evaporate whatever intelligence you once had?
@thotmas97: Your claim that "... they just got awarded equal rights, what, 5 years ago?" is false, and you say the schools will just teach "LBGT history". It's more likely, as the articles show, that indoctrination will be "taught", as your own comments indicate. Apparently you're far too ignorant to see why your "like 5 years claim" is false.
But the larger takeaway from your comments are that others must be "accepting" of what YOU want them to think, no matter how inaccurate it is. It's up for all people, including young people, do decide for themselves what they think and believe. And you're far too ignorant to see the danger of telling someone what they have to believe.
Finally, you're also incorrect about what I said regarding sex offenders. I stated quite clearly that it had been reported that some of the members of the choir singing that "children would be converted" were sex offenders. I also said that I did not know if that were true. You, on the other hand, falsely claimed I "made up stories and called gay people sex offenders", i. e., you falsely accused me of calling all gay people sex offenders. You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own, made-up facts.
You can't get facts straight, can't read, and you make stuff up in false accusations. And then you have the temerity to insult the intelligence of an entire generation. You're too stupid to realize your own ignorance and indoctrination.
People will draw their own conclusions from a variety of sources. They don't need your indoctrination.
Yes, I’m the one prone to indoctrination, not the idiot who falsely claimed that these men were sex offenders because they read it on Facebook.
Also you’re right, it wasn’t five years ago. It was six. My mistake. Clearly I’m not as well versed on lgbt history as I thought. Also the articles explicitly states that lgbt history is the curriculum that is going to be added to these schools. Apparently you’re too dumb, much like the rest of your generation, to read anything past a headline.
No one, particularly not the people who made this video, are saying anyone “has” to believe anything. Contrary to what your Facebook feed has told you, no one is being sent to fema camps for wrongthink. The reason younger generations are more accepting isn’t because their teachers are telling them to be, it’s because society is general is more accepting, and therefore they pick up that it’s not abnormal. There’s no amount of whining you can do that is somehow going to reverse it, just like how your parents probably were disgusted when black people intergrated, and your grandparents definitely would’ve been.
Also I didn’t claim you call all gay people sex offenders, only that it’s a tactic dumb reactionaries use to pretend your position is a noble one. Something you clearly fell for because the people you implied were sex offenders are in fact, not sex offenders. Google is your friend, I know technology scares you but it really helps in situations like this.
@thotmas97: If you had actually read everything, genius, you would have seen what would be covered in that curriculum in at least one of the places it's been implemented. It's a Grievance Studies-style indoctrination, and it was pointed out that there things being taught in at least one place that aren't true, e. g., the claim that the 15th President of the US was gay, something for which no evidence exists.
Apparently you're too ignorant to know what rights ecompasses. Tell me, for example, when did gays get the right to vote? The right own property? The right to education? You said they didn't get rights until 5/6 years ago- a blanket statement.
Furthermore, you continue to make false claims about what I said, i. e., that it was REPORTED some of the members of the choir were sex offenders. And you're claiming that none of them are sex offenders. How would you know that none of them are?
Because I have this thing called “google” and sex offender registries are easily available to the public. If one of these people were sex offenders, it would be incredibly easy to figure that out. Yet, there doesn’t seem to be any actual “reports” that they are. I’m going to give you a little homework I’ve already given to someone else, who by the way admitted they were wrong. If you say they’re sex offenders, then why don’t you show me where you got that information? Cite your claim.
Equal rights means literally an equality of rights. This is sort of difficult to grasp so you’re gonna have to follow along slowly. Equal rights means that all rights are EQUAL among ALL groups. Meaning that if there’s a right that a certain group has that another doesn’t, then logically, the group that doesn’t have that right is not EQUAL. It doesn’t matter which right that is. Black people didn’t get equal rights when they got the right to vote, did they?
Also who pointed that out? You don’t exactly have a great track record of differentiating facts and rumors, as evidenced by this conversation.
It was tongue in cheek but pride and gay culture has been “too far” for years.
Even if it was a joke, it's in very bad taste.
They have gone too far way before that, but sure.
USA with their gender obsession again
This is a satire. As in “not real”.
Trust some conservative kid with no brains to take it as serious
Many of them are pedophiles
Sorry, Most of them are pedophiles. Damned Autocorrect
try to convert my family and i kill you