No because terrorist has a specific meaning. A group of people who exist to stop innocent people from being violently assaulted and beaten is not by definition a terrorist group. In fact quite the opposite.
However BLM/ANTIFA (especially ANTIFA) are political activists who use fear and violence and terror to push their political agenda (through rioting, which the proud boys have never done, through violently attacking innocent people, which the proud boys have never done, burning buildings, which the proud boys have never done, and defacing private and public property which the proud boys have never done, and even killing people who disagree with them, which the proud boys DEFINITLEY haven't done.).
So no, in order for the proud boys to be labeled terrorists they would first have to be pushing a political agenda using terror tactics, and second in order for it to be "fair" they would have to be doing the same thing BLM/ANTIFA is doing and they are not only not doing that but are doing the exact opposite of that by trying to prevent violence and protect innocent bystandards.
They chanted threats to political leaders and trashed the capital building while demanding the Office be handed to Trump.
That counts as terrorism buddy. :)
Nope. Getting in a fist fight with someone that is confronting you isn’t terrorism, it might be self defense or it might be battery depending on how the fight starts and the laws of the particular state or territory. In contrast the BLM/ANTIFA have set police stations and court hours on fire trying to murder authority figures. They have violently assaulted people at polling stations for having different political views than them. They have threatened juries and their families in politically charged criminal cases. They have threatened local government and businesses with violence and property destruction if they are not given financial remuneration, preference in employment, ideological and social changes to education and policing, etc. BLM/ANTIFA are textbook terrorists. The proud boys are just guys that like to be guys get drunk and act patriotic. If anyone picks a fight with them, they don’t back down. Huge differece.
They already are considered a terrorist group.
Canada has declared them such, it's just up to whether or not the US follows suit - considering it's even founded by a Canadian, I'm honestly surprised Americans even flocked to it.
Y'all are super socialist happy joining a Canuck group, eh?
What have they done that would make them a terrorist group? In order to be a terrorist you need to fit a specific criteria, one being that you use terror i. e. attack innocent civilians. They have never done this, in fact they have acted as security, protecting innocent people from violent terrorist groups like antifa (which has openly admitted to using terror to push their political agenda). Two they have to use this terror to push a political agenda, which again, they haven't done. So by definition they are not terrorists. They just happen to have a belief that just because some one is conservative doesn't mean they deserve to have their head bashed in with a brick. The fact that some one would argue with that is very telling about how bad things in our world have gotten.
Wait proud boys was founded by a Canadian?
Yes the proud boys are absolutely a terrorist group.
So protecting innocent people makes them terrorists? Stopping people from burning down buildings makes them terrorists? I'm sorry either you don't know what terrorist means (some one who uses terror to push a political agenda), or you support actual terrorists.
@hellionthesagereborn If this is your logic, don't come crying to me if I stop a proud child from beating someone up.
@NightHawk99 What? My logic is that the proud boys started going to events after antifa violently attacked people with bike locks, sticks, glass bottles, bear spray, etc. etc. They then on video, did not start any of the violence but did try to end it and protect people from antifa. that wouldn't be "logic" so much as reality. If you violently attack some one your not the good guy, if you try to stop some a fascist mob from violently attacking people, you are a good guy. Its really simple and straightforward. Just because antifa is on the left doesn't make them good people, just because proud boys are on the right doesn't mean they are evil and bad. Actions matter not political affiliation.
@hellionthesagreborn "If you violently attack someone you're not the good guy." By this logic, Proud Boys are bad guys. :) Like you said, actions matter. And their actions shined brightly on January 6th.
@NightHawk99 No, they defended themselves and others. That is an action that reflects on them but in a good way. As for Jan 6th, well clearly you have not done any research on the subject (leftist never do). Who died on Jan 6th from violence exactly? Oh yeah, one unarmed female trump supporter who was shot by a plain clothed police officer who did not announce he was an officer who shot her at a distance, through a door, into a crowd (all of which is illegal. Funny how the left always screams about police brutality. . . until they actually do something illegal and its against conservatives then suddenly your silent (its almost as if you don't really believe anything you claim to)). Now we know that no one was killed by conservatives on Jan 6th. How many people where armed? Almost no one, in fact teh only confirmed one that I know of at the moment was an antifa member. Who destroyed property? Well, as far as we can tell the FBI, which was happy to disclose and violate the rights of every person protesting (an actual protest, not one of your "mostly peaceful protests" you know the mostly peaceful protests that resulted in mutliple people being murdered and buildings burned to the ground) yet for some strange reason they refuse to release the names of those who actually did damage that day. This has led many to speculate that the FBI was involved, as they have been known to do (even CNN has reported on the FBI actually instigating violence (which is of course illegal but being in the government has its perks if your on the left, like not being held accountable for your actions).
@NightHawk99 But you know what, I will go along with this, lets treat these people like insurrectionists even though they where not by definition insurrectionists. Fine, so what about the leftist who broke into the capitol building two different times? Are they also insurrectionists or do your rules suddenly stop applying the moment you find out its one of "yours" that violated the rules? Rhetorical question, we know the answer to that.
@hellionthesagereborn "That is an action that reflects on them but in a good way." Basically you said it's okay for Proud Boys to commit terror attacks. In that case, don't whine about another BLM or Antifa protest ever again. And stop labeling people who disagree with you as leftists. We centrists disapprove of Proud Boys too.
As for that whole pOlIcE bRuTaLiTy comment, I never started supporting cops after Jan 6th. However, I will gladly point out the hypocrisy of republicans who chant back the blue until the blue says they gotta do time. But according to republican logic, that's a leftist move.
Nothing any leftist group has done in the past few years will amount to an actual attack on democracy. And that attack was done by republicans. Anyone who studies the insurrection knows that.
Oh wow. Ignore the republicans and complain about the one leftist that was there. Righties are a joke. 😂😂😂😂🤦 The only people proud boys protects are people just as violent as them. And they'll make up any story to look good. Just like CNN and Fox News.
Got anymore fake news and conspiracies to shove down my throat?
@NightHawk99 No, no I didn't say that at all, I can't tell if your serious or just really that oblivious. As stated they have never attacked anyone, they have been attacked, they have stopped attacks, but they have not gone out of their way to attack and by extension have not done so on political grounds. Therefore by literal definition of the word, they cannot be terrorists. Not sure why you think that terrorist equals any one you don't agree with or people you think should just stand by and let themselves be killed by actual terrorists (by definition and admission (ANTIFA has openly stated they use terror to push their political agenda which is the definition of the term terrorist)). You seem confused and I hope that one day you learn to step outside of your echo chamber, maybe do some research, maybe look up the definition of words, before attacking others and labeling them something they are objectively not.
As for the cops, you support this cop who murdered some one (or commited manslaughter take your pick). The republicans have not supported cops whole heartedly, they have stated that cops are not inherently evil unlike what the leftist try to claim when they say a cop who shoots a woman mid stab to save another is some how racist, the republicans and conservatives say that is idiotically stupid. They opposed what this cop did, they oppose what every cop who has done wrong has done as can be seen in every one's response to them. Its only the left that ignores evidence and judges entire groups and then reverses course the moment it becomes convient (the left is now trying to argue that its conservatives who want to defund the police when it was the left who called for it, demanded it, and then did it (all while the politicians spent more money on private security for themselves).
@NightHawk99 As for your "nothing leftist do will be an attack on democracy", thats just idiotically stupid. First off they commited "insurrection" according to you and other leftists, TWICE, with no recourse. You don't get to make up a definition for something then ignore that definition once it comes back to you, you have to be consistent otherwise your just corrupt and evil rather then simply misguided. So according to you they where insurrectionists. In addition to that, they literally burned down cities, the right has not done that. Further more Nancy Pelosi requested the military to ignore Trump and not obey his orders, this is by definition an attempted military coup. In addition to that the left, after realizing Trump had won the election tried to destroy our system by demanding that the electoral college IGNORE the votes and violate our democracy. Further still, they illegally spied on Trumps campaign, colluded with foreign powers to justify that spying, used the media to sow disinformation and hide information in order to get results they wanted, commited another coup attempt when they attempted to frame him for russian collusion which didn't happen and they knew didn't happen, a third coup attempt by trying to impeach him without a single criminal charge brought forth (and for something not only didn't happen as admitted by all of their witnesses and the alleged "victim", but also was what Biden himself bragged about doing on video), as well as having altered voting laws without going through state legislator which is illegal and barring conservative ballot watchers from watching said ballots despite it being against the law to do so.
@NightHawk99 So you are entirely incorrect, the left not only has on many many occasions (these are just within the past four years) attempted to overthrow our democracy, but they actively call for it even now. Meanwhile the right has NEVER attempted to do any of this, not even during Jan 6th where they where let in by police into the capitol building as they where legally protesting as per their first amendment right and the capitol building is open to the public.
So again, you should do some research first, look up the definitions of words before using them, and try and hold yourself to the same standards you hold others if you want to have a meaningful discussion.
@hellionthesagereborn Republicans denying they tried to destroy democracy again. 😂😂😂😂 They are beyond reasoning at this point. That's why leftists and MOST centrists hate you guys. You think stupidity is being patriotic. With your mentality, America deserves a decline. And the ones to blame won't be democrats, but republicans.
Hope you're happy. You're America's real enemy. 🤣🤣🤣
@NightHawk99 Well one, I'm not a republican, two its not a denial its a statement of fact, three while I provided eight different examples of the left actively trying to undermine democracy you have provided zero. So not really a good argument (but who needs reason when you have zealotry and brainwashing right?).
As for centrist, most centrists have aligned themselves with the right actually. Not that they have suddenly started agreeing with everything the right says but rather they see that the right is far more reasonable and less violent and hateful compared to the left. I mean if you look at the statistics literally every political demographic states they are uncomfortable sharing their political views with the only exception being far left because the far left will just violently attack and destroy the lives of anyone who doesn't agree with them. So your also wrong on that account.
As for america's decline, no its always been the democrats/left. I'm not the enemy of america, you are and always have been. America was about liberty, I support it and you vehemently oppose that. The founding document of this nation is the constitution, I support it and you want to destroy every vestige of it. I believe in the individual you believe only in group identity, I believe in doing things based off of merit, you believe group, skin color, gender, etc. are far more determining factors then a persons skills and abilities.
So as per usual you are incorrect but you have no self awareness so you project every thing you are onto others. But don't worry, we are winning the cuture war and you are losing, that is why the left is trying to ban moderates and conservatives from every platform and violently attacking any of them that speak up, because more and more people are realizing just how hateful and evil you and the left really are.
@hellionthesagereborn Don't tell me you're not republican while thinking the insurrectionists are innocent. You have no right to talk about gOoD aRgUmEnTs while believing something that stupid. And every centrist I met has become just as sick with the right as any leftist after January 6th.
With that being said, please continue to believe you're winning a war that isn't even happening. After all, it does seem like a good cope after losing in 2020.
And of course, every villain likes to tell their opponents they're the good guys while shitting on whoever disagrees. 😂😂😂😂 Don't expect anyone with a brain to take you seriously. But oh, you think such people don't have brains do you? You're beyond reasoning. America belongs to the people. And the GOP betrayed the people. Many times. Go ahead and bring up some "leftist this leftist that" bullshit like it means something.😂😂😂😂
@NightHawk99 Well I'm not, I disagree with the republicans and have explained what I am (and have been quite consistent with that). Two, they where not insurrectionists by definition so that is why I don't call them that. Three, I even said that fine, we call them that but then that makes antifa and BLM and democrats insurrectionists as well (remember you ignored that part because it doesn't fit your narrative). "Insurrection: a violent uprising against an authority or government.". Did the protestors commit violent acts? No, their was no violence on the part of the protestors (unlike Antifa and BLM who both went into federal buildings and attacked federal workers and government officials and police). So again, if we use the definition of words (you don't because then you can't make things up and are held to an actual standard.), it was not by definition, an insurrection. That is why I said it was not an insurrection.
As for Villains, your the one shitting on every one, I pointed out that by definition (The thing you like to ignore) the proud boys are not a terrorist group because by definition, they are not. Your the one who then spazzed out and got "triggered" and decided to flip out and get angry that some one would dare question you and your ideology. This is you, as a leftist, projecting again (you do this a lot I've noticed).
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In Canada, the Proud Boys are considered as a terrorist organization.
In the US, they are being considered as a terrorist organization; the FBI considers them an extremist group.
This is why I stopped associating with my sister who is married to a Proud Boy from Ohio. I can't have a relationship with them because that would jeopardize any security clearances that I would need for a job.
BLM is not a terrorist organization. It's not an organization at all. It's a slogan. Some people have vandalized or looted businesses in the aftermath of last summer's murders by police officers, but no one was physically threatened. It's the Proud Boys and others of their ilk who have killed people.
Name one person the proud boys killed
@captain_voidwalker The Proud Boys specifically, or just BLM counter-protesters like the one that murdered a woman in Charlotte, VA with his car?
You mean the guy who got spooked and gunned it because blm was trying to drag him out of his car. That ones in blm
@captain_voidwalker he was convicted of manslaughter, so I don't that story holds up.
And whats your point. Manslaughter isn't murder there is a difference. Murder is where you intentionally kill someone by for instance stabbing them in the throat. Manslaughter is where you unintentionally kill someone like if you failed to stop at a stop sign and ran someone over.
Even then I don't trust that this guy got a fair trial. He probably had a liberal judge who sided with the protesters and a liberal jury who did the same. Kinda like how George Floyd died of a phentenol overdose but Chauvin got 2 murder charges. For gods sake they even had the body cam footage that proved Chauvin was kneeling on Floyd's shoulder and not his neck. But evidence clearly is secondary to politics in our legal system now so meh
@captain_voidwalker wtf are you on about Chauvin was found guilty through a fair trial. He you can't put your knee on someone's head for ten minutes.
Again the evidence showed he had his knee on his shoulder not his head. And that trial was not fair. after the trial multiple jurors admitted to voting guilty due to fears of blm rioting and violence. And whats the name we we give to organizations who use violence to achieve thier goals. Ohh thats right terrorists.
@captain_voidwalker He was convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to life in prison with no possibility of parole. He was never threatened by anyone.
Even still it was self defense there's video evidence of blm protesters hitting his car with a baseball bat before he ran them over.
Since we feel like casting stones how about the blm mob that shot seqoria turner. Don't know who that is im not surprised since it didn't get much news coverage. Seqoria turner was the 8 year old African American girl gunned down by blm activists. So not only are blm terrorists they're also hypocrites
@captain_voidwalker Video evidence? Where? That was reported never.
Whats disgustingly distasteful is all the corporations that donated millions of dollars for mere attention and attempt to prove compassion surrounding Floyds death, yet a measly 20k reward was announced to Efforts to FIND those responsible for death of 8 year old Secoriea Turner... Shot because her mom was trying to make passage through an illegally erected barricade by armed "protesters " at Wendy's. Mind you afterwards the Wendys was set ablaze by A group of individuals because well it simply was the closet Business of where the incident took place...
@kmg9150 I don't believe Floyd's family deserved 20 million Dollars or whatever it was, that money should have gone elsewhere.
domestic terrorism is defined as "activities that (A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the U. S. or of any state; (B) appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U. S."
The proud boys manly protect people from being beat up by antifa and BLM in public.
January 6th
@NightHawk99 was more of an angry mob.
@NightHawk99 That wasn't affiliated with "proud boys"
and its a bit telling that the only people willing to take action against the government, took direct action against the government, instead of attacking innocent people's homes and businesses.
@TheOracle10 @beefy40 I wonder what you two would have said if it were democrats doing this because trump "supposedly won illegally".
Everyone claims BLM "burned down cities".
May I kindly ask you simple people: what cities did they burn?
Needless to say, Proud Boys joined in on the attempt to destroy democracy on January 6th. I think anyone with a brain knows who the real enemy is.
New York is still standing bud.
If that's the best you got, sorry but your best won't do. Good luck trying to get Trump back in office.
Define left to rot. As far as I know, those cities are still standing as well.
Inner city LA, chicago, detroit, etc... major population centers ya know...
@TheOracle10 All. Still. Standing.
@NightHawk99 What about the attempt to destroy Human rights that occurred which started civil war when the secession of states formed the Confederacy by the Democrats belief that slavery was morally acceptable. Why is it that political party still exist today? Dude you sound like the broken record that financially left leaning media sources continue to play... It's funny that mob was even able occupy inside the capital as far they did, it seems that greater action could have been taken to stop that, unless your orders were to allow it. There was less security than what's provided during presidential campaigns, which is astonishing considering all the high powered politicians there that day... It's a typical left tactic creating a problem and allowing a preventable situation to occur too support their agenda.
Mmmm sure if that's what they've convinced you of, then its apparently obvious that you'll never see anything than your current ever so righteous beliefs.
Let's be perfectly clear since your trying to compare A$$holes to oranges. Republicans by no means have came close to what Democrats have carried out past, present leaving the future to written, but take into count the last 150+ years, good chance it stays close to its past.
Now when did Republicans incite a civil war keep slavery legal and seen as morally acceptable?
Where in the past have Republicans been caught taking part/organizing in voter fraud which could moronically justify Democrats doing it now?
Which republican president has protested in comparison legitimate laws of the opposition as being on the same level of their explicitly segregating racists laws of their own. I. E Biden says voting requirement now are the same as Jim Crow, yet he fails to mention that his party are responsible for the Jim Crow era.
When did Republicans come to organizing a Kay Kay Kay, mind you with Democratic politicians openly admitting membership, which sole purpose was to prevent blacks exercising their right to vote and Republicans from being elected into office by means of violence and intimidation. Democrats formed other militant style organizations like Red shirts and white line rifle clubs For the same purpose.
Republicans have done more in efforts of equality than Democrats have past and present.
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Assuming what exactly, maybe try and be clear to identify what liberal bullshit your whispering about. It is how discussions are carried out, you speak on something, back it up.
May this simple person kindly ask you: Why is always the entire police which are at fault when it's the actions of one or a few individuals?
You, hurt my feelings? Assume much? Kiddo?🤔 Your how old with your animevatar?
It's amazing that people justify forgiving and supporting such a racist political group all in the name equity, by the way which isn't the same as equality (equity implants the concept of money), for the very same people they had terrorized and enslaved. How is it Democrats are forgiven and yet all police are bad...
Like a victim defending their abuser justifying they're now changed despite all the destruction they've caused. Brainwashed much? Had to be specific with what's taking place so you can take it as literal as it was given..
by the way, everybody wasn't saying the "entire" city was burnt down, they said cities were burnt down. You asked a question on the intent to mock using literal interpretation to justify your implication, but instead it backfired to literally prove your miscomprehension of the statement. How ironic. It doesn't really surprise me given the severity of brainwashing that you've been subjected to.
There's this saying goes "There's only one thing that an ignorant person will never be convinced into believing, the truth."
I'll be more than willing to prove or explain anything I said in which you believe to be incorrect or can't fully comprehend.
"They said cities were burned down."
And they are stupid. Don't listen to them. :)
Please, PLEASE prove to me a city was actually burned to the ground. Because setting off one or two fires and shattering windows isn't burning down a city. A city that's burned down looks like Hiroshima in WW2.
And may I ask, do you know how democrats and republicans suddenly changed views? Or are you to blinded by right conspiracies for that to make sense in your head? 😂
@NightHawk99 glad we can agree that republicans haven't came close to destruction democrats are responsible for causing.
January 6th when lack of leadership within government which Democrats had the responsibility and ability prevent a mob from entering in the capital had taken place. No. Its not as serious as blm protesters blocking a passage way and shooting at car which had legal right to make its way around that resulted in the death of an 8 year black girl.
Sure its serious, that a lady was shot squeezing through a window posing no threat to responsible individual. Its also serious how inaccurate the media covered the situation and all the claims of heavily armed combatants violently forced themselves in. If that happened to be the case why are guard seen with their backs turned with no concern of danger to arise or directed at them. It serious that democrats contributed and are trying to turn a minor event which they anticipated on and have turned are that but of a circus conducting a manhunt..
Are pretending that the civil war wasn't anything serious? Are you blatantly supporting the group which incited a war intending the continuance of dehumanizing groups of people as mere objects of property by binding them with ownership.
Show me solid proof behind the level of concern about the 6th that leaves you supporting the kuklankux politician participants, violent inducing, rapist, murderous, jim crow creating, terrorist group known as the Democratic party.
@NightHawk99 how about you explain it to me in your oh so infinite political wisdom of this ohh so turn of morality that Democrats all of sudden felt they have been wrong about their reason for starting the civil war. Im all ears to your reasoning of acceptance that an undoubtedly insurrectionist party continues to exist as 1 of 2 dominating political voices today.
@NightHawk99 Hiroshima hit by a exponential amount of Nuclear force has still proven your interpretation of cities burned to the ground incorrect, about 67% were declared destroyed or severely damaged so by your claim this is an example of an entire city burn down is false, again this is against your definition of cities burned down. It seems you can't make a decision to what you think it means leaving your literal miscomprehension of the phrase "cities burned down" as an effort to defend and minimize the destruction in the name BLM has very little creditability. This can also be confirmed by the lack denying with proof anything I have pointed out and challenged you with the opportunity to prove my points as falsehood, or conspiracies of you will. I have no tail to tuck nor reason to disappear. Time will tell when you choose to offset the points I have presented with comment or question that diverts from your opportunity to discredit me...
@kmg9150 Hiroshima was LEVELED nonetheless wasn't it? As far as I know you're crying the same right wing tears as any other republican. You didn't prove a damn thing to me. As for wanting me to disprove your points, you aren't smart enough for that satisfaction, and you are only saying this to counter me demanding proof American cities were destroyed 😂😂😂. Besides, don't republicans have their own side of the media where they can spread their bullshit around? I don't need an opportunity to discredit you. Because republicans have no credit.
Also, on January 6th, the MAGA cult stampede got multiple capital officers killed, compared to the death of one child. May I ask, why is everything only cool when retarded republicans do it? If you can't answer this and go on about rEpUbLiCaNs ain't As bAd As dEmOnCrAtS, you have no right to talk about democrats causing any kind of destruction, especially knowing republicans are the reason Americans are STILL dying from a pandemic. Go ahead. I DARE you to say the dEmOcRaTs are the ones making things bad there.
Oh by the way, many years ago during another one of America's elections, someone from the oh-so-innocent republican party appealed to the racist-corrupt democrats. THAT is how and why democrats back then are what republicans are today. But clearly you're too simple minded to understand that. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Stop listening to right wing propaganda and spewing it all over the web. You're killing Americans at this point. LMFAO
It's amazing how easy republicans are to trigger. 🤣 When stupidity is considered patriotism, being intelligent becomes dangerous.
You are the biggest buffoon I think I have ever seen, so sure of yourself are you? why don't you go outside and look at the damage yourself, oh wait you don't live in any of these major population centers do you. I'd guess not. Also retard, "burning down cities" is a metaphor, you absolute fucking simpleton, I shouldn't have to give you an English lesson here for fucks sake.
And don't speak about intelligence you room temperature IQ fool.
@TheOracle10 The room temperature in here is 120° since my air conditioning don't fuckin work.
Sure. A mEtApHoR. 😂😂😂 Gotta cover your ass now ey?
@TheOracle10 By your logic, Trump supporters actually did "burn down" the captial.
Capital*
Awfully quiet, are we kids? You doing your homework?
too busy not being a loser sorry
@TheOracle10 So you finally accept the fact that Biden won fair and square in 2020? Good. A step forward from being a loser.
@NightHawk99
Hmm did I say I was a Rep? No I dont believe I did. Oh wait leveled now, so 60% of city buildings is considered "leveled", which is that sense would mean everything would be brought down to a level height. Oh but burning down churches and police precincts, yeah thats not terroristic at all right ( oh wait that would be left, because Dem (kkk recruiters) like to use race and hate to divide this country.
Glad you can admit cities here were destroyed! 👍🏼 bet that was hard one to swallow, even so probably very little effort on your part...
www.foxnews.com/.../cnn-don-lemon-kenosha-violence-democrats
There you go, im sure fox news went ahead and had someone impersonate These bent over lefteez. Yea now that its hurting the poles they wanna aSSume opposition side... Right. Oh i mean Left...
SECORIEA Turner, LoOk it and tell me thats fake too, BLM protesters were peacefully protesting when they shot into the vehicle she was riding in... Why didn't her story make national news? Where were the millions in donations when this 8 year black girl was murdered? Where was the BLM fundraiser to offer aid to her family. 20k is what went up to find the ones responsible, by city. No wealthy mega sports, hollywood supertards. EXPLAIN why her life didn't matter... Nah. you'll prolly just put to use those all-star dodgeball skills you so gracefully show off.
"You didn't prove a damn thing to me" haha. No, but you just did to me.
Its clear that when someone doesn't have shit back up their face farts, but they will try and come out with and explain how they are smarter, they dont need to prove anything.
nypost.com/.../
Another lefteez media source,
www.newsweek.com/businesses-year-after-floyd-1596610
Still dying from the pandemic. Wheres the evidence. Are you including all the deaths that are labeled covid with out a test confirmation?
@NightHawk99
No not quiet, no I dont need to do homework, but I do back up what I say with proof, walk it like you talk it, its what men still do nowadays. All blabber coming out you mouth proves waste of the education that was provided.
How do you figure I have no right to point out how destructive civil war incited by Democrats so they could continue with slavery? Or about the hangings, violence, rape, murder, etc carried out by kkk whos membership grew greatly because the grand cyclopic wizard dem politicians were recruiters themselves.
You claim a shift in morals and hierarchy was done over the attempt to appeal votes they were not getting? Haha. Did they do anything above during this time time appealing? Your saying because private citizens that were racist, is what changed the parties core values? Not hardly, you dont go from one extreme to the other.
Well lets see, a higher % of House and Senate Republicans voted for all the Civil rights bills that were passed.
historyhalf.com/.../
That will explain it to you if your bold enough to read something that doesn't follow the way youve been trained to think.
I thought the vaccines were everything the Dems hoped and wished for? Then why would you care to what happens to all the unvaccinated people that you claim are all republicans anyways. It peoples right to choose whether or not they want have some "vaccine" thats 99% affective supposedly jabbed into there body. So shut up about what they continue repeat absurdly in anyway possible, let the ones that youve been trained to hate die off (funny how negative the "people that believe treating Everyone equal" are so hateful).
Name all the all officers killed in the Capital that day, please do! Or you going to dodge that too?
You couldnt provide any proof that disapproved me, so such proof must not exist.. Again Disprove me. Lol, even if I was Rep, definitely not triggered.😂. Only W/🔫
Why is this hornet's nest so fun to kick?
@NightHawk99 Haha you still assume Im a Republican, sorry still ignorantly wrong. What do you mean you already stated that Hiroshima was destroyed, it was leveled, blab blah blah but yet buildings were still standing. So proven yourself so ignorant that tou aren't able to accept that clarification example if Hiroshima is defending statement that you are trying to discredit... Create the problem so there is a problem even though you dont think it should be a problem. Then you still want to stay stuck on the same bullshit like you just didn't prove me right with your little example. You still fail to refute in all there other aspects I brought up or in response to more unsupported statements shown you were wrong.
If you can shown me all the names of people all these people that you claim died in this "Deadly insurrection" I be more of man than you would ever hope to reach and I will proclaim Your hierarchy over me and all I've said was lie and you are undeniably a speaker for the truth against misinformation. You won't have to clarifying why you follow the KKK, hate mongering, black live only matter when its voting season (because blacks dont trust the government and vaccines Biden urges private sectors to require proof he's a prick in order to work, seems like he they dont matter much, now he's using the public again to force hate and fear to accomplish the goals of his marionettist.) And deadly attack by the way means that ones who took action in "attacking" the capital need be responsible for at least 10 casualties (death) unto the defenders...
How do you like your crow? Oh yeah thats right support it being served with a side of Jim...
@NightHawk99 things are amusing when your scenarios are delusional dreams with fictional outcomes.
Idc who you are. You still fail to explain what city was destroyed in a BLM riot. Therefore you didn't win anything.
As always, republicans are getting triggered. Yeah, I'mma just label you republican anyway because you're that easy to upset judging from all the presidential speeches you gave me. 😂
Yeah, I follow the Kool Kids Klub.
Besides, why should I try to prove something to an idiot? You can't tell the difference between damaged and destroyed. 💀
@NightHawk99 hmm. An idiot. Clearly the mirror you fantasize in front of is very clean. Upset nah I dont get upset, im not two years old, nor am I play grade schoolyard games like someone who vantisizes to his mirror mirror on the wall trying to convince himself he has some balls at all. The damage caused by the riots destroyed the cities. The cities were destroyed even though the some parts remained undamaged. Even tho it suffered great damage from the bomb, Hiroshima still had just over half of its structures still standing. Which this incomprehensible person hiding behind his keyboard, bightscawk99, already said that is considered destroyed, burned down or leveled. Which by the examples he made himself, proves the links i sent to be correct, everything does not need to be incinerated to be staid "burned down". Thanks for the clarification again.
Dodge, tuck (if you have to that is), suck, dive, disappear.. Famous actions of someone who knows they are bested and to cowardly too admit it. Its what i expected.
Cool. So you still call me a republican. Just goes to show you that even when your informed the statement your making is incorrect, you continue to do so. Where the misinformation coming from now. So care to make claim of what you said about the oh so serious deadly insurrection you swallowed from the news while you were on your knees begging for it? here's your Jim Crowe by the way. 🪳 sorry Im not sure you deserve that, you can eat what you are...
Again what city was destroyed? 😂😂😂😂😂
Show me a picture of a DESTROYED city? One that's actually beem destroyed by a protest of all things.
Until you can do that, stop whining about damaged windows, burned flags, torn up office rooms and downed statues.
Dont claim to not get upset while needing to write paragraphs saying how stupid you think I am.
@NightHawk99
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/burn%20down
That should be clear on what means what for one. We wouldn't want you going around just making up your own definitions now...
Broke windows and doors, sprayed graffiti and burned down SEVERAL BUILDINGS.
Again. You failed to explain how a city was destroyed. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Please, send another link. Rest assured I will look at it. I mean I looked at those two. :)
As for hiroshima, take a good look at the photos. MOST of the town is literally gone. None of it standing.
But oh, just because less than half were still standing, that doesn't count as destroyed. This is your logic bud. 😂😂😂😂
@NightHawk99
Sorry for you to still think Im catching feeling by way of something you said. Still not case.
Its funny how you tell me to stop whining over broken windows, torn flags, broken office chairs but you throw a fit over when that happened at the capitol... Now pay close attention to amounts of damages they list when going over all the structures which suffered damage or are you going deny that because its not a "picture".
Even so Im sure you'll just cry that it doesn't prove anything so you use that avoid backing up the "Deadly Insurrection" you say killed so many individuals... remember , dodge, tuck, deny, duck, dodge... but if your done on the schoolyard and want participate in grown-up debate then by all means show me you're evidence...
You claim not to feel anything but are trying so desperately to prove your retarded logic to me. What does that say? ;)
And no. I never said the insurrection killed sO mAnY iNdIvIdUaLs. Only several folks died out there.
No child, I won't show you evidence of anything. I do have it. But showing evidence to an idiot only makes me the stupid one.
@NightHawk99
Nah Im just wondering if you'll ever step up you game and actually come out and support what your said, but as I expected you'll still find BS to go around so you can play if you can't show me what you got i dont have to show your what I got. Retarded logic, like saying a city a was leveled, destroy, but still had 60% or more of the structures still standing. So like i said by your example, the one your provided has already clarified that the entire city doesn't not need to have suffered damage... Or you going hop skip jump away that your made that clarification.. This is not desperation, its clear your really trying to convince yourself that of me aren't you... Im desperate, but yet here it is you keep responding with evasion rather than simply back up what the serious insurrection thing being so deadly. Think of this more like a science experiment and your my guinea pig, which thus far continue to prove my hypothesis correct.
Oh by the way I never did say anything about cities being burned down. So I really did need to prove anything when I made no such comment. Although by your example, I have provided that for what you asked for regarding "they".
So even if you still want to deny the provided evidence supported by your example, You can stop bouncing around me having to prove anything... So support your comment about the insurrection. Im curious to see if you'll prove my hypothesis wrong after avoiding to man up or shut up this whole time... If you won't support what you stand up, then you'll kneel for for what you do..
@NightHawk99
Back peddler, read your response about Maga killing multiple capital officers... It was a response to me if that will help you stop denial.
You forgot something - this is a GAME. And you my friend are trying too hard to win by trying to prove something inaccurate to me. I'm winning just by getting you to respond with the same retarded bullshit you've been telling me for days. I don't even need to give you proof knowing it can be easily found by even a simpleton like you. But you'd rather keep your face in the links you posted, so someone finding the proof for you isn't going to do anything.
And I did go back to my post. I never said sO mAnY pEoPlE wErE kIlLeD. Why do republicans always make stuff up? 🤣
Tell me again. You're not mad? 😂
We can separate them from the acts, right? Or do you think those who somehow separate BLM from the terror attacks they did are so wrong we should have eternal loss of trust in any pro SJW comment uttered by them, and gurantee that BLM will be held responsible for riots, looting and that blocking of a ambulance I found on youtube that they did, not to forget the ultra dangerous lack of social distancing that would make anyone who complained about Trump and sovial distancing either have a need to give these BLM supporters the same amount of commplaints or prove how unimportant equality actually is to them. Fuck those hypocrites. Naturally anyone who wish to hold the proud boys responsible naturally also wish to hold BLM responsible unless equality is so unimportant to them that we can ignore any of their fake pretences for wanting equality.
No they should not be held responsivle until BLM are.
I don't ever recall hearing about the proud boys doing to following...
blocking traffic
looting
committing vandalism,
clashing with the police
harassing and threatening people in restaurants and on the streets
and committing arson.
I have however heard and seen video evidence of BLM doing all those things.
It's always funny to see all the people calling the Proud Boys white supremacists, while their membership is inclusive to members of all races and they literally NEVER have spoken in favor of any white supremacy, in fact quite the opposite. But since when have liberals let facts be their guide?
Lol ok u can believe that
Their leader is a dominican man. Clearly they are not white supremacists. I mean your seriously going to tell me that Enrique Tarrio is the face of a white supremacist group?
That is next level stupid.
Any organization that loots, burns, vandalizes and engages in destructive riots is a terrorist organization. I don't see much of that coming from the right. Just because an organization is distasteful doesn't make it terrorist.
Capitol hill?
What did they loot, burn or vandalize? Democrats are stretching the bounds of reality to call that terrorism, insurrection, or an attempted coup.
It's funny how they acted on innauguraiton day 2016, running rampant, burning cars, etc. Oh, but that was just peaceful protest; people expressing their feelings under the protection of the first amendment.
Hypocrites!
You haven't seen the videos I'm guessing?
Yes I have, sir. Did you see the capital police opening the gate and waiving people through? Did you see the capital police in the hallway ushering people inside? Did you see the officer inside the Senate chamber asking those who entered to be respectful and those who entered complying.
Was anyone armed? Aside from a window, show me the vandalism and destruction.
Unlike Democrats who obstructed the Kavannaugh hearings, those who entered the Senate chamber left peacefully of their own accord. Unlike the Democrats who rioted, threw Molotov cocktails and other objects, and burned cars on the night of the 2016 inauguration, or like Democrat supported BLM terrorists, there was no rioting outside and no burning of cars in DC on Jan 6th.
Insurrrection my ass.
You must have mistaken it for something else, go and watch another video, there was plenty of vandalism and people were shot dead which shows how bad it was
"People" were shot dead? How 'bout ONE person was shot... by a cop.
I watched a bunch of videos and read a lot of articles. I saw not one bit of vandalism and didn't even hear reports of vandalism.
You're obviously a Democrat, dude. You're just following their ridiculous narrative.
And you didn't address my questions about outright riots by Democrats, of which there have been many.
You consider this peaceful 🤔
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fB71JUmjxuQ
"Just because an organization is distasteful doesn't make it a terrorist."
The exact same can be said with BLM. :)
Love all the people who voted "no" 🙄 white people can't be terrorists it seems.
Actually they very well klan be, yeah you get my point. Im still in disbelief of how many people disregard the largest group of domestic terrorist and the destruction that resulted in their attempt to legally continue their belief of race superiority. The Democratic party succeeded state from the Union, which in their act of insurrection formed the Confederacy. Their course of action was unvictorious, resulting in countless preventable lives lost all in effort to maintain their inhuman belief they were entitled slave ownership. The disgruntled Democratic party, which should have been disbanded, now decides take membership inside the supposed vigilante group known as the kkKlan, contributing to increasing membership and organizing the more influencing attacks carried out throughout the years. Violence, fear, intimidation, sexual assault, were just a few ways the Democrats used towards anyone whom they felt would threaten their plan of race superiority formed by legal segregation by means of Governmental powers. Now the double slap in the face how many people support, those in which have caused so much destruction to their ancestors and human kind as a whole, as a respectable political party in the USA. So if you believe that proud boys are guilty of all this then sure they are terrorists. Apparently I've missed the new coverage of all the rapes, violence, murders, and such they have conducted...
If not, then before anyone goes after any group that has conducted similar behavior, you should be taking action to disband the OK to OWN Slaves Democratic which claims equity (which should be equality) for all people of color (keep in mind white is apparently no longer included as an aspect of color.)
Dependency is the act of modern day slavery, disguised by Democrats in the form of protective activism (race specific programs) financial support (anchors preventing successful growth). Housing assistance (invisible cages) provoking belief all opposing action racist induced
The KK are terrorists, Neo Nazi's are terrorists. Its not that white people cannot be terrorists, its that just because you don't agree with some one politically doesn't automatcially make them a terrorists.
In order for the Proud Boys to be a terrorist group they would 1, have to use terror as a means to push a political agenda, and 2, actively target civilians to do so. The proud boys not only do not do this, they do the exact opposite of this. They protect innocent civilians from violent groups like antifa and BLM. This makes them the polar opposite of terrorists.
The amount of close minded racists on this site never fails to amaze me lol
The good thing about these questions is they ousts themselves
No they really don’t do anything except sit there and talk BLM actually has burn down building engaged in rioting looting assault in and black mail in order to affect a political process. “If Biden doesn’t win we’re going to get more violent “
I view politics as a circle as opposed to the conventional line with 2 ends
At one point of the circle is the central view that both sides can share points on
The opposing point of the circle is also both sides but chock-full of extremist viewpoints from the likes of The Proud boys, the KKK, the Nazis, BLM, Antifa, Extinction Rebellion, ISIS/ISIL/IS, the Taliban and The IRA/PIRA
I wouldn't call BLM terrorists either. It's Antifa who go around starting fires and stuff during the protests.
No idea! Who are the proud boys? Have they burned or destroyed anything? Have they murdered or hurt anyone? Are they a racist group like blm? If so, they SHOULD get the same treatment!!
Yup to all of those.
If the right can call the left a terrorist org. than the left should be able to call the right a terrorist org. the right is just too much of "snowflakes" to be tolerated as one
They're generally goons who target antifa and blm. The difference I see is that proud boys don't burn down buildings and hurt people in the name of their cause.
Oh you mean the people that took a tour around the office and shattered some windows?
People sure like talking about that one specific incident. When the blm riots have taken place in multiple states for over a month.
Why is it only cool when right leaning groups do it but not left leaning?
@NightHawk99 lol what the hell are you talking about man, you just sound like an angry but ignorant lefty that can't accept that BLM and associated Lefty groups attacked small businesses and looted stores, attacked innocent people, etc, kind of similar to 1920s Germany if you think about it, this kind of reckless behavior by the left caused everyone not left to side with the NSDAP just because the KPD was so obnoxious and stupid.
@TheOracle10 Same song and dance. "u MuSt bE a SnOwFlAkE lIbTaRd" Can you stop looking at the other side for a second, and look at yourselves? Are you any better than BLM by going to the capital and doing the exact same things they've done? Or is it justified when right wing terrorists do it? And yes lol you guys have terrorists. Don't lie to yourselves.
How many people have the Proud Boys killed? How many fires have they set. Proud Boys are "reactionary,
Uh, absolutely... homegrown terrorism is our biggest domestic threat right now.
I don't think BLM is a terrorist org whether I agree with them or not Don't know much about Proud Boys so can't comment
neither, but that's the problem when you join large groups, you get associated with the morons that you don't necessarily identify with and have the urge to defend them, same with politics
The proud boys didn't burn down cities last year.
The alt right was in Charlottesville not pb.
haven't heard about their involvement in the capitol riot
What cities were burned down?
@NightHawk99 Damn your prolly at least in your twenties and can't Google it. Or are you being specific and implying that 220 buildings in Minneapolis isn't the "entire city"? Kenosha ring a bell, it is why citizens armed themselves to protect the destruction of private property because Other powers were allowing it to take place. Defund the police, police are bad is their the basis to "protests" until the event of Rittenhouse self defense, then it was someone call the police, he's been shot, arrest him, arrest him. It's sad people lost their lives but amusing how quickly the want for police involvement changed..
@NightHawk99 no they would say that city is leveled, or the ENTIRE city was burned down. But you decide try and be literal as possible as if everything inside the boundary line which declares the geological borders of a city need be destroyed. I guess you should go correct every time someone stated that a forest was burned down because if there were any tress within that forest still standing it's an insulting statement to whomever lacks the ability to comprehend its meaning, i. e - you. House burnt down, car burnt down doesn't mean every little piece must be on the ground. If someone says the Suns murdered the Bucks in the playoffs are you calling LEO to report a crime.
Are you taking stand when all members to every police force across the US are blamed, implied of racism, to be held responsible and endure consequences for the actions of one or a few individuals? here's another movement you can have free of charge... So the ones who cry victim of stereotyping are also stereotyping yet it's ok that their doing it? Have you oh so righteously made a stand to correct victims of stereotyping whom stereotype with the belief its acceptable when carried out by them? Which I should add is quite literally a conduct of racism.
Where you given power to acting as a Righteous Literal Holy Word Enforcer by appointment of Webster, the all powerful author Creator to Holy Literal Dictionary Bible...
But Im the kiddo. Why not put fourth that energy to which would result in having a greater positive impact on society.
Hmm. Street blocking protesting doesn't not involve looting, mass destruction of private property, burning down buildings, instigating violence, destruction of government property (where not talking about a few windows and furniture that resulted by a mob which was allowed access into the capital either). Do you live in a fairytale?
These are just suggestions by the way, I would never imply someone doesn't have the right to conducting the practice of ignorance.
BLM doesn’t have a central organized leader. So no.
Proud boys do and are led by racist assholes. So maybe not terrorists, but “people of interest” to LEOs.
They have several leaders, the IRA does not have a central organized leader, did that stop them from being classified as a terrorist organization? BLM has used violence as a means to spread their ideology, that is terrorism.
proud boys is a small esoteric organization that only really shows up to counter the often violent BLM mobs. They got notoriety for beating the shit out of twinky antifa retards in 2016-2017.
@TheOracle10 The IRA ran like the mob actually. Several offshoots splintered. But ask the BLM marcher on the street “who’s the boss?” It’s not our fault some corrupt people managed to get convince dumb libs to give em donations. And convince Fox News to run their commie tweets. Unironically.
The proud boys have not done the following
- blocked traffic
- burned cities
- looted cities
- killed people
- destroyed private property.
But the known terrorists BLM have.
I'm glad those of us with a brain agree.
The one immediate thing I dislike about the Proud Boys is that they use the word "proud". Otherwise, I don't know much about them
BLM is not a terrorist organization. But if it's viewed like that, so should any other organization.
And I mean any other organization that opposes BLM because they're clearly racist and actually wish harm onto those who rep BLM.
Hey can anybody join the proud boys because I’m kinda on their side yes black lives matter but I don’t like the way they’re going about it
Why not just join us centrists? Proud Boys and BLM are full of idiots.
Obviously not.
BLM do a lot of bad things and the Proud Boys do not.
So it's obvious that BLM is the problem and we wouldn't call both terroristic when it's only BLM that is the problem.
Probably makes more sense to start with Antifa, no?
How many cities did the proud boys burn down vs BLM?
No because zero deaths and zero destruction of property. Nuff said
The leader of the Proud Boys was an FBI informant and most of their members are likely too, so no.
Sure... whatever ya like.
Yes of course they should.
Wow votes got it wrong on this one
Never heard of them, so I’m gonna go with no.
I think everyone has equal rights
they are.
No, they shouldn't
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