Is BLM a hate group?

[Anonymous]

Yes

No

[abc3643]

It's not a hate group; it's a survival group loudly echoing what has happened to blacks but has gone unnoticed for years until the widespread use of personal video cameras: police abuse of primarily black folks.

Yes, all lives do matter... but it's the black ones being racially profiled and snuffed out for no good reason.

Dallas may only be the beginning of a new terrorist movement and, thanks to the NRA, everyone (including blacks) are well-armed. The militant BLM group thanks the NRA for its assistance.

[madhatters4]

no it's not. there are people who who are radical and get lumped in with BLM because they show up at the protests but they are not the actual voice of BLM. like all movements there are rogue sects that latch on and essentially bastardize the message

[Asker]

But aren't these radical people getting their voices heard the most?
It seems to be heading on the same path as feminism... a large group being tainted by a vocal minority (feminazis)

[madhatters4]

yeah the radical voices are being heard but they aren't the voices of the BLM so it's unfair to label them as such or the BLM as a hate group.

it's like calling Arabs terrorists. no terrorists are terrorists
it's like calling white people racists. no the kkk are racists

the actions of a few who don't represent the group but rather use the media attention give to the group as a way to voice their own sadistic message are not the voice of the group... they are essentially parasites using a host to feed off of

[reixun]

The movement itself wants to end police brutality but some of the people are radicals and taint the name of the group. Just like what they think about the police. My friend who lives near Dallas sent me screenshots of what people were discussing on social media about it and although there were normal reactions of sympathy, one girl still believed "fuck the police" and "if they're killing us why can't we kill them?" but that's still one person who nobody agreed with.

[Summerjonee]

Yes, they want superiority and want guilt from white people.

[madhatters4]

what makes you think they want superiority

[Summerjonee]

@madhatters4 just some of the things they say like I've heard in some youtube videos people say "Im only empowering black women" or saying white people have a "melanin deficiency" and other stuff.

[madhatters4]

this is what they believe.
https://blacklivesmatter.com/guiding-principles/

you can't say that BLM IS something based on one person saying something on camera.

[Summerjonee]

@madhatters4 well you're probably right, not all, but I know the ones that get shown are seen as violent and uncivil.

[Summerjonee]

And the link said it was an error.

[madhatters4]

they do but that's just the media glorifying a small aspect for ratings.

i don't dispute that a lot of ugliness seems to happen at the rallies and i think the group needs to be very active about changing that environment. but in the case of the Dallas shooting. the BLM leaders actually went to police headquarters in advance of the protest. informed the police of their intentions. the violence that happened there were radicals not associated with the group

[Starrk]

If BLM is a hate group then Christianity, Islam and Judaism are hateful religions, Republican is a hateful political party, and just about every nation is a hateful nation.

Every group have it's radical members who uses the group as a platform to voice their own personal hatred. These individual members should be seen as individuals and not as a representative of the entire group, especially when the groups core belief contradicts the individual members belief.

[TadCurious]

I'll answer the question this way: At a lot of their rallies/marches/riots they have shouted:
"What do we want?
Dead cops.
When do we want it?
Now!"

[madhatters4]

it began at a 12/13 march. it was said by about a dozen people. a dozen ill-informed people who do not represent the voice of a larger movement. of course it's been repeated by others. that still doesn't mean that black lives matters is a hate group. there may be people who show up at protests and spout hate but to say it's a hate group would be like saying because you see some racist people on video at a trump rallies that all trump supporters are racist

[echoaj]

Yeah but what about all the times they didn't chant that. It goes both ways.

[Spiorad_Aisce]

I said no - Like most activist groups it has an extreme wing - It is the extremists who take things too far and cause more problems.

[Asker]

So I guess the question is, are the extremists enough to hinder the usefulness of the group?

[Spiorad_Aisce]

Absolutely - Till last night the question was Do the Police practice Racial Profiling? and Are current Police tactics in a multi racial society correct and open to oversight? - Now we are asking Is this a Race War? Is the violence going to end? What happens next, will the far right white groups try to use this to their advantage? - Will the argument go off topic into a valid gun control argument?

[ThatBritishLad]

It sort of is, sort of isn't. Has very vocal radical sides, like most movements. And since we're in the age of computers and junk it's much more pronounced.

[Dred1614]

Yes. They want all whites to feel guilty for slavery. My family had zero involvement in the slave trade.

[madhatters4]

uh yeah that's not true.
don't see anything about applying white guilt
https://blacklivesmatter.com/guiding-principles/

[Dred1614]

@madhatters4 You really buy that? They're creating an anti police sentiment that is dividing this country.

[madhatters4]

you really buy that the small sects that you see on tv or the pictures of young people being destructing are representative of a group that literally calls up the police departments before every protest?

IF the BLM matter was about creating anti-police sentiment. how could they walk into every police station in every place they ever protest and get a permit to protest? how could they get police protection and surveillance?

[Dred1614]

@madhatters4 You can't deny them a permit to protest if you don't agree with them, that's unconstitutional.

[madhatters4]

actually you can if their protest is deemed to be a threat to public safety. they can bring in lawyers but permits are denied all the time for that and other reasons

[Dred1614]

@madhatters4 Real BLM protests aren't a threat. The ones that call for murder of cops and loot cities are threats. The MLK-like peaceful protests are perfectly acceptable.

[madhatters4]

ok so then BLM is not a hate group and your statement "They want all whites to feel guilty for slavery." is not really accurate

that's the crux of my point. there are individuals within the movement who are making a mockery of it. but they are in the significant minority and they shouldn't then become the representation of BLM

[Dred1614]

@madhatters4 it is. They have every right to express their thoughts. If the KKK or Westboro baptist church had a peaceful protest, I'd treat it exactly the same: not a threat. Both of those groups are scum, but they're still allowed to express their views, just like BLM can.

[chc0009]

No, it isn't. They get that black-on-black crime is an issue. But when Ray Ray kills Tyrone, Ray Ray gets sentenced to life. When Officer Bob kills an unarmed Tyrone, he gets paid leave.

See the picture?

[KittieCat]

I don't think so. I think there are some people in it that are bat shit crazy and are full of hate, but generally, no.

[Anonymous]

Yes, a racist hate group trying to make it illegal for police to arrest black criminals. They want police to not be allowed to defend themselves.

Possibly a domestic terrorist group, since now they are targeting police, See Dallas.

[MaiNameIsSunshine]

No and all those saying it is are very unintelligent or at least very uneducated.

[carinerose]

Honestly, what shocks me the most is the fact that they give on TV the number of "blacks" killed compared to "whites". It's like throwing oil on fire.

[anonman32]

wants to protest in peace, proceeds to shoot police.

[Anonymous]

I don't think it's centrally organized enough to say what it is.

Most people affiliated with it, no.

[TheFlak38]

It obviously is. To say otherwise makes you either a liar or stupid.

[echoaj]

Yes, they hate police brutality.

[jacquesvol]

A group against murderous hate by cops.

[fenixx0083]

Bureau of Land Management?

[Anonymous]

Only if you want to see it that way.

[Asker]

Seeing and knowing are two different things.

[Opinion Owner]

do you into philosophy?

[jakeofalltrades]

yes it is