Is it time to start talking about fighting for male equality?

[Anonymous]

Children are taken from us. We have no say in if a girl wants to kill our child inside the womb. We also have no say if she wants to keep the child and we don’t in terms of paying for it.
We are losing more and more rights everyday.

Yes

No

[Qdbrown]

It's all ready happening. A good amount of information is going mainstream out of the Manosphere.

Most guys don't know what's going on out there. Many feminist writers and influencer are encouraging women to disable men any way they can, to strike down the patriarchy as fast as they can. This is through what they say are non-existent false allegations, but these are coming from every level with daughters turning on their fathers, women accusing anything in the dating world and for women to destroy their husbands, most notably with the silver bullet divorce that is practically the way divorce is now done, as it destroys even a man with a good attorney, often having him in prison in less than 3 months for things he never did.

A lot of guys are coming out of the dating market, and it shows. Not just in the US, but around the world. And it shows as birth rates free fall. Right now the lefties think great, except at somepoint the money and resources disappear. None can really understand that, but that's where we are heading. Whether it happens in the next decades or two, there will come a day when the world will change.

[Anonymous]

I honestly don't know how this came to be.

Men always were, still are, and always will be the superior gender if you take the average not the exception.

I don't understand why we are letting women walk all over us and are so afraid of sounding misogynistic.
I'm not saying we should put them all back in kitchens but we should definitely remind them that we are still the primary providers we are still the ones who rule the world and unless they can match our capabilities they do not deserve any equality to us.

And the best way to do that is to give them equality of opportunity not equality of outcome.

By making the argument "because I'm a woman" or "because you're a man" inadmissible anywhere and even opens someone up to defamation charges we can have a world where if you're right you win, if you work you earn, if you build yourself up you get anything you want regardless of your gender.

The result is predictable and men will still come out on top but that's just the outcome, as long as women have the opportunity we have done our part and should not be strong armed into doing more

[Anonymous]

It’s a patriarchy, we need more feminism first. Did you know the USA is the only developed country on earth to not have federal maternity leave? That’s insane.

[Asker]

We have too much already

[Opinion Owner]

There are none. Most countries offer a year.

[Hanmakev]

So men’s rights don’t matter

[Opinion Owner]

@Hanmakev lol, men have 99.9% of the advantage in this society. You fix maternity leave then we talk.

[Hanmakev]

No we don’t you and all women just want people to give af about your own struggles quit bitching we all got problems

[Anonymous]

No. Female equality hasn't reached its peak at all. If you're that desperate go to a third world patriarchal countey and live like a king

[Asker]

It’s overpassed and gone too far

[MCheetah]

We SHOULD, but I know not too many people will take it seriously. They just expect me to nut up and shut up, ironically often the same women who think men need to "express their feelings" more in order to "smash patriarchy." Because women are the child-givers, society is always going to put women first and treat men like sh*t. The sooner you accept this fact of life, the better. That's why I just enjoy the smaller things in life more than I used to. Like, being able to get a burger pretty much whenever I want to, even here in Korea. I'd rather think about that than the fact men have no reproductive rights, are considered "incapable of being raped by women," and automatically get arrested in domestic abuse disputes.

[BeenThereLovedIt]

Male equality doesn't include telling a woman what she can do with her body. You seed is simply a voluntary donation and once given, you have no say in what she chooses to do with it, or let it affect her. To be impregnated by you is her choice to make, not yours.

That being said, I also agree with Chapelle's solution, that considering the above, the man gave a donation, and has equal choice to opt out physically and financially if he doesn't want the child and she decides to have it. Her choice. It has consequences though.

[SupremeWarlord]

I cannot agree with you on the abortion thing, you cannot force a woman to have the baby without violating her body autonomy rights, body autonomy is a huge thing nowadays. I know it's frustrating for some men, it seems unfair, but nature wasn't fair in not giving men the ability to be pregnant, which is a very stressful thing to happen to your body, at least stay out of this, discussion about abortion should only focus on the woman and the baby.

The child support thing is a tricky issue regarding children's entitlement to your property, I personally prefer things right now than what you are proposing, and by the way women also are obligated to pay child support if the situation calls for it.

[jshm2]

No. As you already have it, dipshit.

Your inability to pay for a decent lawyer to counter your assertions, does not mean you are at a disadvantage to female counterparts. They have to work twice as hard to get half the pay, despite working the same job - to pay for that same lawyer. That's just the start of the road for her, not you.

[Baronace]

Damn you're ignorant.

[Anonymous]

Nobody gives a damn about you but you. Stay single and make sure you use protection. As long as men keep making dumb decisions (getting women pregnant and/or marrying them), those mistakes will be used against you.

Protect yourself by making smart choices. The smartest choice at this point is to stay single and child-free.

[Avicenna]

There are some big problems and unfairness in family law, that's true. But that means putting political pressure on state legislators rather than a general movement for "equality".

[Anonymous]

Women don't play fair.
The more power they get, the more fucked up it's gonna get.
To some of them, their lives are more valuable than their baby's and men are just to be used and thrown away.
Don't look to them for compassion.

[fr44c3iqqs]

But not in all aspects, only some. I would explain it all, but it would be too lengthy, so I’ll leave it at that.

[OddBeMe]

As soon as poverty stricken single mothers are doing as well as most males then we can start discussing it.

[Qdbrown]

Totally disagree. Those poverty strike single moms choose that path. They either went for the bad boy, thinking he would always be there or worse, try to trap him.

And when you tear apart why the mom, is a single mom, in many cases the mom voluntarily left the father because he was not good enough, too abusive, and not making enough money. And before you say no woman can know what she is getting, while she is picking, single moms are more normal now than partnered/married moms. Most ironically more single moms start later, and no longer teen mom's.

If we cap all the government spending on single moms, a lot of the issues would take care of themselves.

Most of the reason why moms can an do leave their partner is because they want more, and government enables them to do it. And a family court system that rewards them to do it, with extreme prejudice towards men.

[OddBeMe]

Then you can’t blame courts for siding with them.

[Anonymous]

I will only fund gender studies for men at men alma mater. Otherwise I won't give them a cent

[Diya010]

Nope...