Is there currently a War on Masculinity?

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Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Going to insert an extract that came up in latin class that some of the guys were really touched by:

"To possess Roman virility, was to radiate not just sexual power but “virtue, accomplishment.” He wasn’t just sexually “assertive,” “powerfully built,” and “procreative,” but intellectually and emotionally “levelheaded, vigorous yet controlled, courageous yet restrained”

The Romans made virility complex. He had to be clever, energetic, confident, politically engaged. The defining quality of virilitas was self-control. Virilitas was an ethic of moderation, strong or “vigorous” powers were kept deliberately reined in, in the manner of a standing army. If a man was too aggressive, too emotional, or too brawny—too manly—his virilitas would be lost. Therefore, giving in too often to the charms of women is effeminate. To be sexually powerful, you had to be in control of your desires."

I think at times we do feel like we're pushing against the world. With all the breaking down of identity and what 'something should be' today it's getting harder and harder for young men - and young women - to do what's natural for them. Of course this benefits and downgrades us, it's really difficult. I hope you will be able to stop feeling the pressure of the world and do what is natural to you.

WowwGirl · Accepted Answer

Liberals

bamesjond0069 · Accepted Answer

Toxic masculinity doesn't exist. Its a lack of masculinity. When men behave feminine as women is when they are acting up.

For example its masculine to confront someone to their face you have a problem with and solve it directly. Its feminine to not say you have a problem and just let it continue until its out of hand.

This happens with school shootings. If a male bully picks on a male peer. The correct thing is for the one being pushed around to punch the other one in the face defensively. Violence in response to violence is the appropriate masculine behavior.

The problem is this is scary for women to comprehend and so they dont "allow" it with 0 tolerance fighting rules at most schools so even the guy in the right will face suspension and punishment.

So the boys act like women and just submit to the rules and therefore also the bullying. And now you have raised either a wimp who allows people to walk all over him OR one who bottles it up until he explodes and does something ridiculous like school shooting or some other crazy behavior.

The problem is men attempting to behave as women. Not too much like men. Toxic masculinity is in fact a synonym for male femininity.

ADFSDF1996 · Accepted Answer

Yes unfortunately there is a war being waged upon both masculine men and feminine women. SocJus is so adamant on trying to reverse the gender roles. Quite hypocritical for a movement that constantly speaks against authoritarianism.

MzAsh · Answer

We really need to distinguish between healthy, positive masculinity and it’s opposite. There should absolutely be a war on the unhealthy and abusive behavior by men and how it ties to the idea of masculinity.

panther0008 · Answer

These are two separate issues. Gender identity has nothing to do with femininity or masculinity.
Now, there is no “war on masculinity”. It’s naturally evolving. In the distant past - the “alpha male” was the biggest, toughest, burliest man who could kill a boar, make a fire and wrestle with the other males for potential mates and win.
Our ways have changed. Now the alphas are the guys who are intellectual tech savy billionaires. Personality wise, they’re pretty different from the old age alphas because high intellect brings with it a different set of traits. That doesn’t make the current alpha wimpy or less masculine.
Masculinity isn’t about how big your muscles are, how aggressive and confrontational you are, how well you can pose in a military uniform for a health magazine, how many kcals you’re eating today and how many power meals you ordered your girlfriend or mom to cook for you. In fact - everything about this is very not manly.
Masculinity is about being there for your loved ones, providing for your loved ones, being able to take care of yourself without relying on a woman for basic life skills, being able to resolve conflict without a fist fight, not being emotionally stunted, not being sexist etc
So, is there a war on masculinity? Well, if one’s idea of masculinity is getting drunk with the boys, getting into a fist fight at a sportsbar because x team lost, then coming home and beating the shit out of your wife because the soup is too cold, and then kicking your gay or trans son out of the house - yeah, there’s a war on that.
Otherwise no. Women still appreciate men who are dominant in a healthy way, men who can make good decisions on their own, men who are handy around the house, men who are courageous etc

Ellie-V · Answer

Well, the answer is no.
You can’t wage war on something you can’t even tangibly grasp. You can be mad at it. You can object the status quo and yell or make changes to your life or maybe even influence people to join your side. But the way some people view masculinity and femininity is just so bizarre.
There is a visible disdain for the way certain people choose to express themselves. If you honestly in your heart and soul feel that every person who is a guy should learn combat, become pick up artists, and shove themselves into a breadwinner box then you have some problems. No matter who you are. Same thing applies in the reverse. If you truly, like in your SOUL feel like women are meant to be docile baby making machines only good for making sandwiches and sucking dick... baby you’ve got some problems 🤷🏾‍♀️
Simple as that. Even when we are dealing with folks who are non-binary or trans.
You have got to be SO insecure, SO shallow, sad, and one dimensional that you just can’t function without ruining someone else’s day and disturbing their peace when all they wanted to do was to live fluidly.
Men have passed down some outrageously harmful AND DARE I SAY TOXIC ideologies and try to slap a label on it justifying that it’s just how men are supposed to be. Women are not and will never be exempt from this FOOLERY. Women are shit bags too.
But generally, is humans have not been on this planet very long at all. You can try to chalk it up and say we gotta fit into this box because x, y, z animals do this and that but at the end of the day we are too damn social with too much free will with too many compliments added to our brains to not take any accountability or personal autonomy when it comes to our decision making. We will evolve like all things. Ideologies will be challenged. Civilizations and empires will fall. Get the fuck over it.
There is no “war” on masculinity.
You’re just mad because the social climate changed.

Bananaman177 · Answer

Only men and male energy are a threat to tyrants, so when you see masculinity coming under attack, that's when you know some tyrant or other is gearing up to crown themselves God Emperor for Life and slaughter anyone who disagrees.

Is there currently a War on Masculinity?

Any men out there who don't want to be slaves, time to get yourself into fighting shape because the wheel of History is turning and the Hard Times are on their way. I'd say we have months, not years.

Nevermind the chickenheads, they're fucking worthless and besides, whichever side wins will have the pick of the litter.

Oram52 · Answer

Well sort off, the problem becomes in defining masculinity or femininity for that matter. So the argument then becomes feminine/masculine are artificial or social constructs. Without clear parameters it becomes more challenging to debunk. However despite all that Masculinity is not under attack to the extent its portrayed to be, men simply became less masculine themselves. Sure feminism and single mothers also played a role, but so did video games and porn.

You can see this in dating, regardless, women still go for masculine men first same way men go for feminine. Even in romance novels men are portrayed Masculine, feminist romance novels made no impact because women wouldn't read them.

SuccessfulHornDog · Answer

Yes, Its on the list of everything currently under attack during this culture war.

The purpose is to weaken the group under attack and size power from them instead of doing it through competition.

We should make a list of everything that is under attack to get an accurate picture of what is happening and what is at stake. The is what the FBI does. They report out on all types of issues that may seem unrelated but when you see them all together you realize that there is a pattern behind them and that they might be linked

Snakeyes7 · Answer

Toxic masculinity exists according to many people but I have to disagree. Bad people who happen to have a Y chromosome isn’t proof of toxic masculinity they just simply not masculine just as how being a bad person who happens to have two X chromosomes isn’t proof of toxic femininity.

Whether using brute strength or manipulation to ruin someone, you are engaging in neither of these characteristics nor should these characteristics be blamed for something that they are not socially constructed to represent.

Jaximus-Lion · Answer

Oh yes! Social medias, people in the streets, The news, it's all over the place. Then you have the "ALPHA" DUM DUMS speak and everything goes from shit to more shit, it becomes the shittiest 🤣.
I just mind my business and people can say what ever they wanna say, i don't have to listen when people talk shit, am berded and I get a lot hate but it's not my problem.

hellionthesagereborn · Answer

Has been for quite some time. Just look at the statisics of how male children are treated, what we say about masculinity (no one talks about toxic femininity, why is that?) etc. etc. So yes, feminists started this war, the progressives carried it, and the ignorant have endorsed it.

BeenThereLovedIt · Answer

It's just another tool of the propaganda system to keep everyone divided. Think about it - the mass media and corporate marketing departments focus only on divisional content - Race, religion, gender, guns, crime, politics, etc... They NEED us to be fighting among ourselves, otherwise if everyone woke up to the BS and saw the real problem, a lotta lotta top 10%ers would probably be taken to the guillotines. They know this too.

Dargil · Answer

Yes, it is the current social trend supported by The Left: Government, schools, lawyers, mass media, Hollywood, etc. But all trends come to an end and this one is about to. There is a coming civil war in the USA (Europe is already lost) and one product of that war will be the restoration of more traditional roles for men and women. For those on the Left (blue pill) side of the argument. Enjoy the current scene while it lasts. Your Titanic is about to sink.

SomeGuyCalledTom · Answer

I see masculinity being attacked by the "progressive" media and by the people who play identity politics/ groupthink. But i also think any reasonable woman with her head screwed on straight will see through the media bias and misandrist ideologies, and will value the men in her family/ community/ workplace etc.

MannMitAntworten · Answer

If there is a war, I’m indifferent to it. I mean, I hear and see this ridiculousness and the only ones getting worked up over it are bizarre extremes that media seems to enjoy pandering too. Probably because they are the loudest. The rest of us could give two squirts of shit about this stuff. I really am all out of fucks to give. So I shall scratch the balls I still possess and carry on with my day.

ThisAndThat · Answer

Yes very much so, launched in the 1960's, you could argue it was during the 1940's or 1800's technically. It's a war that can't be won logically. It's a complete loss for all mankind aka humans. And it is why MGTOW exist and millions of men are now MGTOW.

genericname85 · Answer

i wouldn't say it's a "war on masculinity" per se. i would say tha this "women in the workforce" situation is still something we have huge struggles dealing with. and i think women tend to not see why things are how they are. they just point fingers at men and don't see the bigger picture, cause that's easier.

Bellimo · Answer

Here definitely is.
To say there is toxic masculinity you have to consider thst there exists, toxic femininity. It is just accept under the guise of current year feminism. There is no college classes for like this for men.

Feminism today is not about equality.

Shamalien · Answer

I think there has been for a long time. You know what is funny though?

There is also a war on femininity, TRUE femininity, the kind most women these days wouldn't recognize if it slapped them right across the face. What we are seeing is the unholy feminine and the unholy masculine, in sacred union, just further destroying eachother day by day

purplepoppy · Answer

No the war was over years ago. The idea you can solve an argument with another guy by having a punch up is over, you can't beat your wife for being late with dinne. and here's the news, the little guy can be right. The age of guys all trying to see who can piss the highest is over, its time learn to be civilized and not behave like animals.

FrePhill · Answer

I was reared up with masculine, bully, abusive, apathetic father, but I looked up to media personalities like Captain Kangaroo, Mister Rogers, Sesame Street male role models which is more Christlike attributes of masculine social norms than those in the world and of the world as written in Holy Bible. Hollywood still emphasizes on muscular and impulsive, naive type for male role models of masculinity.

DocT1977 · Answer

When many of these feminists want sameness to all regards to men, I would consider that a war on masculinity. The other undesirable consequence to this is that women lose their feminine identity to be us.

Anonymous · Answer

The war began years ago and is only now coming into fruition (pun intended). You have schooling and society blaming male aggression for war and the world's ills. So they sought to eliminate it. However, in doing so they made the country at large more vulnerable to attack from countries who have not.

Anonymous · Answer

There is obviously a war against masculinity and it is driven by feminism. The goal of feminism is to control men, and to do that they must be competitive against them. Feminists recognize the fact that women will never effectively compete with men who are masculine, so their goal is to feminize and emasculate men in order to achieve power over them. It's part of the whole "the future is female" thing.

0oGreyo0 · Answer

Yes the white male and the White feminists have been fighting for the last 60 years. Which birthed new groups such as Lgbt Incels Minorty feminist Red pill men etc

Fascista · Answer

Ofcourse the oligarchy, the freemasons, the bankers and the politicians of the world want and need men to be faggies... Faggies don't start revolutions and like to be submissive and taxed illegally, you can spit in their faces and like good LGBT degenerate cowards they won't do anything...

Anonymous · Answer

Don’t let it happen. The articles, opinions, ideas, etc... about ending masculinity will never work if you ignore the people who bitch about it all. Instead tell people like bill gates that it’s them who are supposed to raise their children the way they tell us how to.

Unit1 · Answer

I don't think so.
I also don't believe in "masculinity" and "femininity" because these are social constructs.

Just be you and that's it.
When in doubt - Money helps in everything and send the haters back to the holes, that they crawled out from.

NerdInDenial · Answer

This war on masculinity will end soon. As chaos erupts, people will call upon the hyper-masculine men to defend them.

YourGirlGigi · Answer

Insane on so many levels. I will keep my opinion to myself on this one. It could get ugly. I'll sit back and read the replies.

Anonymous · Answer

YES THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE MEN WEAK and its working  most men and women are stupid  and cannot see that satan is the ruler of this world  AND HE IS TRYING TO REVERSE GODS WORK

StephenCF · Answer

I mostly see a war against biology, common sense and logic 🤦🏻‍♂️ A war the liberals won’t win in the end, so why won’t they quit?

Barbaric · Answer

There is, and there has been for a long time. I think that recent events will cause a shift however.

CashMoneyElias · Answer

There definitely is and we, men, therefore, ought to stop being snowflakes and put women back in the kitchen.

CasaNorba · Answer

yeah. strong, smart, brave and courageous men do no good for the capitalist minded globalists that run the world. unless that masculinity favors them in a way

RyanK9 · Answer

Those numnuts trying to make the male society to little pussys. These women don't know how they hurting themselves

Anonymous · Answer

In order for women to actually BE equal to men, men have to become sensitive little weak bitches in every way. So the only path to equality is to bring men down to their level. A truly masculine man has few equals.

Anonymous · Answer

I actually thought there was a war on femininity. The feminine way is often better I think. I don’t mean like being gay I mean like being diplomatic and peaceful...

hellacray · Answer

Maybe? I wouldn't call it a war cause people do what they want.  I'd say more like a brainwashing.

Condoriano · Answer

Considering the term 'toxic masculinity' coexist, It's unquestionable that hatred is fueled towards males.

_SOARER · Answer

Yes most certainly  Being a man entails a lot of things that are shunned in contemporary society

more_than_a_guy · Answer

Toxic masculinity doesn't exist, only toxic people. There is nothing wrong with alpha males with testosterone. Why being spinless weak male with 0 testosterone is encouraged?

lsjr16 · Answer

I don’t think so. I think society has realized that saying man up or your a sissy, pussy, has hurt a lot of people and caused a lot of insecurity among a lot of men in the world.

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

I believe so. It won't affect me though. I'm firm in being a masculine man til death.

OddBeMe · Answer

No but the definition is changing. New generation, new ideas. I’m sure the counterculture in the 60s went through the same questioning.

alwaysintosomething · Answer

seeing how men are constantly encouraged to be cucks, I'd say yes. When is the society going to stop listening to broken women?

db684 · Answer

Toxic masculinity is just a way for feminists to politicise the term dickhead.

crmoore · Answer

I mean technically yeah but it has very little steam, I'm not worried about it.

KeziL · Answer

Only beta females want beta males. Sorry

Anonymous · Answer

Not directly. It's a media war against rationality, self preservation and common sense. Traits which are part of healthy masculinity.

Jacked_Jones · Answer

Yes of course, you only notice that now? It is supported by the media for a reason.

SpeshalK97 · Answer

i dont know but im gonna keep my masculinity, i dont give a shit how many girls try to encourage me to cry... i won't

Kaneki05 · Answer

don't have much masculinity so wouldn't know nor care enough to pay attention.

Anonymous · Answer

Yes and a war on every other traditional social norm.

ThisIsMyOpinion · Answer

Someone really needs to tell me why the hell do they think there is a war on masculinity!

Anonymous · Answer

that's what many dating and self-improvement coaches say, have been for some years now.

GoodGuyBreakingBad · Answer

Yes there is for sure

orangecherry · Answer

omg those guys on the beta male cover 😂

Massageman · Answer

Only since about 1968 or so - - - - - -

msc545 · Answer

There is a war on men. Women treat men like shit.

Kagamine90 · Answer

Not that I have seen.

Cryptic-Game · Answer

Yes. People hate masculinity.

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