Pro life or Pro choice?

[Subarugirl]

[krin_m]

Pro-choice.
Women who take that decision (to have abortion) are already going through tremendous turmoil and difficulties. Some decide to go through the unwanted pregnancy and some do not have that option (for whatever personal reasons).
I as a man have no clue what that woman is going through and in my opinion, the last thing we should do as a civilized society is to pile on more constraints, hurl hatred and judge them.
It is already a very difficult decision and the choice should be left to the woman.

[ChrisMaster69]

As per UK.

Pro Choice.

it’s pretty much a woman and her partner can discuss.

it’s then with Doctors (2) and if required mental health input.

at no point is a religious decision.

https://www.bpas.org/get-involved/campaigns/briefings/abortion-law/

http://www.reproductivereview.org/images/uploads/Britains_abortion_law.pdf

[ChrisMaster69]

@Subarugirl thank you for MHG most appreciated

[Shortman70]

I am pro-life and pro-choice! Sounds a bit hypocritical, I know. We (my beautiful bride) talked about this when we were in our child bearing stage if marriage. Although it is ultimately up to the woman. We decided that whatever the circumstances were that we would not elect to have an abortion. It was still all her choice. She listened, I listened and we decided that's what would be best for us.
Now, is that's what is best for you, I do not know, am I gonna make that decision for you? NO. How or why should I make that decision for you? I do not know your situation, I do not know you, so I can not make a decision like that for you and nobody else in the world can or should!! All I can tell you is why we made our decision. Whatever you decide is between you, the father (I hope) and God. But some people are so stuck on themselves they think that you can't make your own decisions, you can't take care of yourselves, and even the fact that somebody could support you in your decision or they'll be criminally pursecuted along with you. Those kind of people that dress up go to church on Sunday and pronounce how good they are and put on a show. Then they go do hideous things to other people that don't follow what they believe and treat them as sub-humans. Fortunately they will be judged on their day. People need to be more humble and be more considerate towards each other. Everybody has their own issues, situations but it is not up to a few people to decide what is best for the masses. The masses are single people who decisions to make about their life, that cannot be decided by the masses. It's those decisions that the masses cannot control and as a society we have to understand and respect not control. There are several issues in our society now that a few people are trying to push on the masses that they have no right to be. Some choices in life come easy but there are some that are difficult, we can give you advice on any of them but we should not be making them for you. We are not stupid creatures, we do not have to be controlled! That's my opinion, be understanding and helpful not demanding and controlling.

[Rachelspiks]

Can an issue as complex as abortion really be boiled down to a matter of being "pro-choice" or "pro-life"? Is it really so clear-cut?
I happen to be pro-life under any and all circumstances, except in extreme ones (ex. the life of the mother is at risk), and I don't accept the "my body, my choice" argument, precisely because it ISN'T your body that's being literally torn apart and hacked to death in the name of convenience.
Yes, I know, some will perhaps respond with something like, "Oh, what would you know, you've never been pregnant", or "You've never been severely disadvantaged emotionally, financially or otherwise", or "You've never been abused", but that's ignoring the fact that it's PEOPLE we're talking about here, if one accepts the notion that we are so much more than just "clumps of cells" as some have seriously suggested.
I've also come across the argument that these children (or "foetuses", if you prefer the more impersonal term) aren't conscious, aren't aware of what's happening to them and so on, as though that somehow justified their destruction.
By the way, I'm just as opposed to euthanasia as well, so this isn't a case of me just taking a hard-line stance in favour of life because I know I'll never be affected by it. I'm also anti-military, oppose the death penalty and believe in the strict regulation of fire-arms because I am consistently pro-life, and not a hypocrite.
Look, we just shouldn't be killing each other. It's WRONG!

[Oigit]

I refuse to pick a side. This isn't the first time the abortion fight has come up in my life time. Also no matter what side wins in the end, I don't see it never becoming an issue again. Also both sides of the issue do bring valid points to the table. So in a lot of ways I think the issue is not as straight forward as both sides of the debate are making it out to be. So the best way solve it would be to find some middle ground between the two. Without some middle group and acknowledgement of the existing grey area debates like this might as well be two groups pushing a bladed pendulum back and forth.

[Ms_Vanderquack]

Prochoice, because I’m not a complete piece of shit.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Pro choice every single time. Not everyone shares your religious beliefs so stop trying to force them on to others.

[crmoore]

Pro choice, if you want to be technical. But a more accurate answer would be somewhere in between. I support early term abortions, most definitely oppose late term abortions, and likely oppose mid term abortions simply to err on the side of caution. I think abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. And abortions should be the last option, after you've exhausted all other options. It should not be used as a form of psuedo-birth-control.

[Snakeyes7]

Pro-choice because I don't think that criminalizing abortion will solve the issue. If people learned to take control of their moral agency a maximum of 99% of cases wouldn't have happened in the first place.

[Anonymous]

I am pro-choice but not because abortion isn't murder. It clearly is murder.

If a women wants to kill her own offspring because it is inconvenient for her then I applaud her actions. I don't want a woman like her to have any children at all.

#KillEmAll
#IamProChoice

[iBeowulf]

I'm pro chaos?

[exitseven]

I am pro choice but I do not think abortions should be allowed 5 minutes before natural birth like it is now.

[Reverselogic]

Pro-choice. Really though, abortion is just a form of birth control for whores. But it's women's issue so I stay out of it.

[Subarugirl]

Promiscuity aside what about people who just can’t afford it. What about families who already had 5 kids and can’t afford more, or a young couple struggling to make ends meet already?

[Anonymous]

I just can't say I'm pro choice and look at myself in the mirror. The act doesn't sit right with me. We all have our views on it. But that blood is not going to be held on my conscience.

[humanearth]

Their bodies their choice, Goverment should stay out it.

We are not free anymore, if you really stop and think about it

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Pro life. I don't believe in butchering little boys and girls in the womb. Some satanic ish.

[Subarugirl]

So you’re against the death penalty then too?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

No. The death penalty is for people who have done horrid crimes. A baby in the womb is innocent.

[Subarugirl]

So you’re not pro life, you’re pro fetus at best. So in that case you support financial assistance and government programs to fund women who have been forced give birth that they don’t want? You foster kids?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

I stand by my position. Babies shouldn't be killed in the womb. The wicked guilty of a horrible crime should be put to death. Period.

[Subarugirl]

Exodus 21:22-25. This part of the Covenant Code legislates the case of a pregnant woman who becomes involved in a brawl between 2 men and has a miscarriage. A distinction is then made between the penalty that is to be exacted for the loss of the fetus and injury to the woman. For the fetus, a fine is paid as determined by the husband and the judges. However, if the woman is injured or dies, "lex talionis" is applied -- life for life, eye for eye, etc.

You’ve mentioned that you are a Christian. If god recognized a fetus as a legitimate life, why would the spontaneous abortion caused by injury only be punished by a fine and not a death penalty?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

If you're going to quote the Bible then quote right.

Exodus 21:22-25

“If men fight, and hurt a woman with child, so that she gives birth prematurely, yet no harm follows, he shall surely be punished accordingly as the woman’s husband imposes on him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

But if any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

God clearly believes in the death penalty. I. e. if a person committs premeditated murder then he or she should be put to death and he who rapes a married woman, does a homosexual act or a sexual act with a animal among.

[Subarugirl]

The argument still stands, if she miscarries he’s only to pay a fine… it literally says a life for a life… if that was the case why wouldn’t that count for the life of the fetus if it was recognized as “life”

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

No. Read it carefully. If any harms follows caused by the man and the baby died in the womb then the man must die also.

The moral civil law God gave was if you murder then you die, if you damage someone's eye then your eye gets damage etc

The judges and courts were in charged to administer justice like that according to the law.

[Subarugirl]

What do you think giving birth prematurely meant 5 thousand years ago. Mortality rate for children and babies were already extremely high.

The amount of trauma a woman has to experience to go into premature labor would almost surly kill fetus if both the mother too in 3rd would living conditions.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

You are assuming if she gave birth prematurely that the baby died. The text doesn't say that so don't twist things around in the text to fit your narrative.

[Subarugirl]

I’m not twisting anything. It never said that it didn’t… You really think that a baby born prematurely in biblical times had a good chance of surviving?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Maybe not a very high chance but 7 months pregnant and she gave birth early for whatever medical cause, sure at least some babies survived.

[Subarugirl]

Sure today… but 6 thousand years ago when you could die from a simple infection and they are circumcising 7 day olds?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Boys were supposed to be circumcised on the 8th day after their birth, not at 7 years old.

[Subarugirl]

Okay I was of busy a day… but the point remains

[Anonymous]

Pro-life unless if the pregnancy imposes a danger on the mother’s life. Other than that i am pro contraceptives and pro virginity

[jjj101010]

I don’t like the idea of abortion but it’s not my body so nothing to do with me.

[suisuiola]

100% CHOICE. Downvote if you want lmao.

[888theGreat]

baby lives matter BLM. I would rather baby lived than the woman. That would be my choice.

[Subarugirl]

Then maybe you should get pregnant

[najekim]

Personally neither since it not something I can have done. But every woman has the right to get any medical procedure she opts for.

[Anonymous]

Pro choice for everyone else but pro life for myself.

[Anonymous]

Pro choice, but I fail to see why it should have anything to do with me.

[Jouth]

I'm kind of on the fence, because I'm all for killing babies, I'm just not too sure about giving women the choice.

[jimmy2]

Pro life how do we think we are God? God gives life and takes life not people

[Ez-Bri-Z]

The let those who believe in a God take it up with their maker when they go. Dont bring your religion into laws legislating a woman's body.

[Subarugirl]

Your god ordered the slaughtered thousands of babies, children, women and men… so.. yeah

[maddie2003]

Pro life, loud and proud

[Anonymous]

For women only to decide what's best for them.

[TheBigGuy9]

Pro-life without a doubt.

[Subarugirl]

So you’re against the death penalty too then?

[TheBigGuy9]

Yup. I leave judgement up to God.

[Subarugirl]

God ordered the slaughter of hundred of thousands of people..

[TheBigGuy9]

And Jesus?

[Subarugirl]

Oh yeah god allowed him to be slaughtered too

[nawtee_me]

Pro life... It is the only choice... lol

[iBeowulf]

What about eugenics?

[Subarugirl]

@iBeowulf Eugenics is the practice or advocacy of improving the human species by selectively mating people with specific desirable hereditary traits.

[iBeowulf]

Infanticide is a well known mechanism. My ancestors did it.

[NYCQuestions1976]

I'm morally pro-life and legally pro-choice.

[Nikki1989]

Pro Choice

[anylolone]

Pro life after 24 weeks, pro choice before.

[Cutiepiee]

pro choice. i dont care if you dont like it

[Tstrbrainer]

I respect life, but I respect others choice too

[hohap]

pro choice man

[Nightroads]

What about both?

[FreeOhSeven]

Pro wrestling

[AntiChrist66666]

i dont mind

[TonyMetal___86]

Pro life

[alance99]

Always Pro-choice

[OddBeMe]

Choice always

[SmokinAces2000]

Pro choice