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Are you pro choice or Pro life?
What is your opinion?
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Used to be pro-choice. Now Pro-life... and pro-choice for the unborn.
Bc is a choice. Surgery is a choice. Health education is a choice. Bearing arms is a choice. Self-defense class is a choice. Friendship circles are a choice. Party places/alleyways are a choice. Words/ free speech is a choice. Pets are a choice.
Exchanging phone numbers is a choice.
All these choices, and women want one that endorses murder to I don't know stick an abstract, bitter tongue out at men? come on... *GROW UP.*
Otherwise, your parents should have pro-choiced the shit out of you!
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Abortion is not murder.
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@This_Is_My_Opinion8 okay.. and you can take that comment wherever you very well please, and to your own grave. I don't accept that comment, and I refuse to believe/ endorse/ or carry it.
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I will. Me and many more. I am glad my country does legalized abortion, just like many developed countries do.
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@This_Is_My_Opinion8 lol okay buddy way to make it seem popular, and you need others standing by you. pack up your things go ahead move along with your little friends there lol
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Make it seem popular? As if it needs any help with that. Of course it's popular. It's a basic right after all.
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@This_Is_My_Opinion8 mhm. You really don't know how the world works... move "Mr popularity contest."
If you hadn't noticed? This is not a voting poll/booth (catered) for you.
Hi, I'm Rose, and you pasted your opinion on MY opinion. Quite disrespectful of you, but I am not surprised or impressed :) just don't let this become a tradition between you and I- mkay? :)
cool
bye person under the name of OPINION like a real joke.
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This is a site about questions and answers. We have an option to reply under other comments to discuss ideas. If you don't want to we stop no problem, but to except it not to happen here is odd.
I know this is not a poll catering to me. So what? Again, sharing ideas is what this site is for.
Regarding abortion, I don't know what you think happens in the world, but it is a reality. It will always be. - +1 y
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 and all of that right there again is your opinion. Good, you made yourself clear, and I still don't give a shit. This is a site where people ASK questions and expect ANSWERS/REPLIES consisting of: cited sources/personal testimonials/ or personal stories... and the occasional (witty/comical/unwitty/uncomical) opinion (s), sure.
DID I ASK FOR YOUR OPINION?
ANSWER ME THIS^ :) - +1 y
Irrelevant. You can chose to make your comment impossible to reply to before you publish it. But you didn't. Therefore here you are accepting opinions from anyone that wants to give their input.
But I understand that this is a sensitive subject to you and you don't like opposing views so I don't have to give it anymore. - +1 y
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 irrelevant has been YOU this entire time. I- am a user unaware of this algorithm of disabling replies. THANKS for THAT insulting TIP. Move along, buddy. Your ass is still laggin' behind ya. Get a train for that or something.
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I really have no idea where this hostility comes from. You didn't like my opinion, but I was never disrespectful to you.
Anyway have a good rest of day. - +1 y
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 It comes from people trying to smear their shit on or near me, when I already made up my mind. Abortion is murder. I have no questions about it, and there's just no further discussing it with ME. Discuss that with someone else, or someone ASKING about it.
By the way, I'm not hostile towards you, but your actions :D and I think I handled it quite well.
Good day :)
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My only action was talking to you. In a site made for it. Enche my confusion.
But yes you can chose to not get replies to your comment if you chose. - +1 y
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Yeah... your action wasn't JUST talking. It was DECLARING. I mean did you think I would change your mind on the matter? You certainly didn't come to interact, just to change mine. All else is irrelevant, except the mention of the disabling of replies.
I may consider that in the future. Maybe not. Anyways, Thanks :) - +1 y
Oh no. Not at all. People don't just change their minds over a random conversation online. I just like a good exchange of ideas.
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@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Then prove that and ask more about mine. Or others about their opinions next time. It's not an ***exchange** you want, if you just want to shove your own at everyone, Firstly. That would be influencing or enforcing. A common mistake, but I guess you and I will both go on to "exchange" ideas in the ways we always have.
I mean, technically, my disapproval of your ideas were MY other ideas. If you didn't like mine. Too bad :)
I can be honest and say I didn't like yours.
But you're a good person.. somewhere in there. I'm sure.
You can move on respecting my personal beliefs, and I can move on respecting your personal beliefs- I'm SURE.
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I knew what yours was. You had written it above. And I was addressing it. That's why I was so specific in my first comment.
You didn't like it and that is totally fine. To have different opinions and dislike another person's views is normal.
Overall I enjoyed this. It's always nice when people can disagree, but leave on a good note. - +1 y
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I like how you take a strictly legalistic stance on the ending of a life.
It’s not “legally” murder and doesn’t fit the LEGAL definition of the crime, ergo it’s not murder.
Of course neither is executing someone by lethal injection. Or do you consider THAT murder?
Both are state sanctioned and approved. What’s the difference. 🤷♂️
I’m pro abortion by the way, because frankly I hate people and wish there were less of them, but I’m well aware of the immorality of abortion. It has gone from being “safe, legal, and rare” to:
YOU GET AN ABORTION! And you get an abortion! It’s raining abortions! Nothing wrong with it! Slay Queen! 👏 👏 👏 😂
You’re killing a baby. You’re killing a fucking baby. Call it whatever the hell you want. Abortion. “Women’s Healthcare” (Hah!). Infanticide. Euthanasia. Whatever.
You’re killing a baby.
I mean like I said, I’m all for baby-murder, whoops, I meant abortion, but this quibbling over terminology and language really is nauseating. - +1 y
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Yeah lmfao XD Can't wait to see what else you write on other posts. See ya around :)
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@Agagagagaga lmao you made some valid points. Though, you claim to hate people and may see 'Overpopulation' as an issue. I do too, especially when I look at the Jones, who happen to have 10 kids, which seems really unnecessary to me, and impossible to handle on a "family" level as compared to a "business."
Don't you think taking certain actions earlier: such as birth control- or for the ones who don't want kids- having personal surgery, would be better than euthanizing a living human, in the womb?
What's your take on this? I assure you, I don't have any argument stored for your reply. - +1 y
No I don’t believe in over population. I just don’t like most people. Most people are shit. 🤷♂️
Frankly I find many of the arguments that those who are super pro-abortion cheerleaders to be unsound. I believe in taking personal responsibility for one’s sex life. A radical concept these days, I know.
Birth control and other contraceptive devices are widely available and effective. I can hear the legions of activists quivering in anticipation, “But birth control isn’t 100% effective!” they cry.
What the fuck is in life? There isn’t a 100% chance you make it to work tomorrow. Hell, there isn’t a 100% chance any of us will be safe leaving our houses. Or, heavens above, taking a shower. We could slip and kill ourselves. Oh my!
What is 100% effective?
Killing someone.
Hmm. Little extreme. But okay. Death is an effective solution for many of life’s problems. Which is why THAT is the hill they are willing to die on. Hah hah.
Amazingly in these discussions, debates, shouting matches, whatever you want to call them, they seem so fanatical about me accepting that abortion is not immoral, and in fact, absolutely necessary. After all, condoms break. People get raped. Incest. Sexual abuse. Etc.
Okay. Go use Emergency Contraception. Plan B. It too is WIDELY available. You don’t need a prescription, and it’s absurdly cheap. If you can’t afford the cost, I’ve seen it for as little as $50 dollars, Planned Parenthood and other organizations can provide financial assistance to help cover the cost.
And yet in spite of all these options along the way, all these different manners to prevent or stop pregnancy from occurring, they STILL say bUt we’ve got to abort babies!!! We just gotta! What choice do we have!
And that’s why we need to be able to kill them up until 9 months and when they are biologically viable. We just gotta! I mean our hands are tied here, can’t you see?
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You’re very off.
I don’t like people.
The fewer the better.
Go kill your baby if you want, but let’s cut the bullshit with the “I have no other options” crap
and yes, killing babies is immoral.
Lots of things are immoral. Cheating on your boyfriend/girlfriend or spouse is immoral. Mugging someone in an alley to support your crack habit is immoral. Taking advantage of elderly people is immoral.
So learn to live with what you have done.
And don’t do it again.
Safe, legal, and RARE. RARE. - +1 y
@Agagagagaga lmao you just said I was wrong, yet went on to say the same thing in a different wording. I'll take that as I understood, and you're seriously too annoyed to be bothered. I get it. I've had irritations as you have. I'm not one of the complainers, but you don't care, so I'll take my tokens and play elsewhere lol.
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No, you’re right. I don’t care. So go take your tokens and toddle off.
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@Agagagagaga ending of a life? You are ending the possibility of life, not a life.
I am against the death penalty since the justice system is flawed. The difference is between a fetus and a living person.
I also not in favor of doing abortions, ideally no one would have to do it. Sadly it's a necessity. The lesser of two evils. - +1 y
@leighbee thank you :) that just showed me you're a responsible/ open-minded person, and not a trend-following complainer, as a lot of women tend to be. Thank you
you and @Hafia_xo are
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@This_Is_My_Opinion8 If abortion isn't murder why is killing a pregnant woman a double murder sentence, then?
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@RiseofArtemis oUUUUUUUU interesantEeeee... I have to look into that.
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@RiseofArtemis yes we can that a double homicide, yet abortion is legal and not considered murder. How strange is that... Could it be because one situation has nothing to do with the other? One is the will of the mother over her own body and the other isn't?
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@Vegasrunner the word alone, is fooling you- it's painted as if I want to take a choice away from someone. I don't.
No. Free people. Free everything.
I just don't want people to be legally "innocent," or "pardoned" to choose MURDER.
Wrong choice of words by you for the simple reason: in my main response I said I was pro-choice- now pro-life.
I was never a part of this anti-coice crowd.
I'm not deliberately anti-choice. I'm pro-life and pro-choice for the unborn, which already is existent, in the wombs of irresponsible women.
I'm anti-choice of murder.
That's my spot in this- and that may very well mean I don't stand with a crowd, but hold up my own sign. - +1 y
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@Vegasrunner Fine. So it is by definition
Let's make this proper shall we? The two terms are unfitting, anyways.
You say, as anyone who made up these terms in this dispute, would: Anti Choice
I say Anti-Death
Good? :)
because it can't be two different subjects/objectives
pro- LIFE vs Pro-CHOICE? NOPE they're entirely different
either pro-choice vs anti-choice
OR
pro-life vs Anti-life aka pro-murder
If we used pro/anti-choice that would be illogical because it would speak and have to cover every single liberty known to man's existence
since we want to be specific in this case,
proper terms would be:
pro/anti-life
and out of these two properly described/defined terms in this case:
I choose to be pro-life INSTEAD of ANTI-LIFE
now, if you want to be in the "anti-life crowd," and stare at dead babies pass by, after being tossed in the hospital basins, and cheer
go right ahead...
I'll be elsewhere saving my party hats for the new year...
P. s.
Even if you want to make comeback as: well pro-life and anti-life would be too generic to all life,
we could go back to the specifics: JUST the life of the baby, right?
you wanna use choices instead? being specific would mean the choice of murder/euthanization, so let's see the specific adaptations side by side:
A.) Pro-life *of the unborn* vs Anti-life *of the unborn*
B.) Pro-choice *to euthanize/eliminate/ aka MURDER the unborn* vs Anti-Choice *to euthanize the unborn*
Where do I stand in the specific adaptations? Easy, as if you didn't know...
A.) Pro-Life of the unborn
B.) Anti-Choice to euthanize the unborn
I'm perfectly innocent in each adaptation
Show the people what they ought to be seeing- reading,
and remind them of all the choices women have already- to not eliminate the baby human- but to eliminate impregnation! (conception/fertilization)
Happy New Year :)
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@Rosexøxø TY that was a rather long way to simply say you are anti choice. If you believe that an individual shouldn't be allowed to make the best choice for them or their body then by definition you are anti choice. The use of hyperbole only serves to justify your position. What's always so odd to me is that the same people that fight so hard to force women to carry children to term are the exact same people that do the least for themonce that child is born.
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@Vegasrunner No, it was a perfectly good way to tell you the practical/ justified/ real view I had towards this whole escapade. If you only want to see what YOU want to see, then that is fine- I'm already used to the closed-minded people like you. Saying I'm just anti-choice is like telling me I can only have one political belief and/or party. How laughable and completely wrong is that. i'm not limited to the two options, nor other people's crappy and stringy opinions of this constipated shit. At the end of the day- as you have so well stated here, for all of us to behold: you'll NEVER "UNDERSTAND the pro-lifers"/ the anti-choice to euthanize the unborn.
so again at the end of the day, you can just take that lack of understanding and (Only-one-option-closedmindedness) to vote for your own liberated opinion come, vote-time.
Me? on the other hand will continue to share my opinion with friends and family, and open-minded people, about why 'PRO-CHOICE TO EUTHANIZE THE UNBORN' is such a bad idea and what are some VERY REAL alternatives/ and the "millions" of choices they have.
Also, that oddity you have- mentioned at the end of your response- I want to acknowledge and clarify with PLAIN English. I am not a part of this "crowd" of people you mention, who have a stupid desire for women to have "babies to term," I'm for planned prevention of 'conception/ Impregnation.'
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@rosexoxoTO ADD:
I KNOW SOMEONE who was a victim of compromised/ consensual impregnation aka:
my fucking sister went to a party with a notorious "fuck boy," got drunk there, by his own encouragement and her listening, and not being a wise fuck- and ended up having sex and now having my 9-year-old nephew WHOM I PLAN TO MOVE WITH, JUST TO HELP HER GET THE JOB SHE DESERVED, WHILE IN COLLEGE AT THE TIME, BUT NEVER MANAGED TO FINISH-
ME- THE YOUNGEST SISTER- HELPING THIS LADY CHEAT TIME AND HER OWN FUCKING MISTAKE.
I'VE BABY SITTED- these SINGLE MOMs' kids for free. Lovely little souls, who don't deserve it. I SEE the STUPIDITY- but you go right ahead and PARDON THEM to have the choice to euthanize/ MURDER the people who didn't deserve the absolute HELL-FIRE.
If you want to encourage more women to be RECKLESS and IRRESPONSIBLE in their affairs with men, and allow this luxury to take it out on the unborn- GO RIGHT AHEAD- with your hyperbole and closed-minded crap.
I know which little people have my vote. AND I SPEAK out for all those unplanned and born, who felt that unwantedness and those born just to be up for adoption by the choices of these stupid/ careless people. You all have my sympathy- as well as the kids of the typical single mom/ single dad, who ended up that way from a strict misstep in their *****set****** of choices* with other "grown" people, concerning sexual affairs.
To each their own, right vegas? Let's hope whatever that is stays in vegas, smfh... - +1 y
@Rosexøxø That was one of the longest contradictions ever. Call yourself whatever you like but at the end of the day the only closed minded person is you. In fact your entire position is based on complaining because people you dont know dont factor in your feelings when making the best decision for their bodies. Anti choice is really the only appropriate label for someone like you that holds thos narrow minded belief.
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@This_Is_My_Opinion8 by the way to my point this is another example of how women behave when challenged on their beliefs.
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@Vegasrunner at this point, you will never see truth. Now you're just throwing empty words around.
My feelings have nothing to do with this, and what is *logical.**** What I said in my original comment was, and is still completely logical, and hardly idiotic or selfish. Any bright person would clearly be able to see that. The only feeling I have in this matter is sympathy for the unborn, and those born, but given a poor quality head start at life, all because someone "with more power" made an incredibly stupid decision for them, without their consultation.
You calling anything long, shows me you'd never do well in court.
Your lack of sympathy is showing, and that shouts Inhumane, on many levels.
I think we're done here.
you're closed-minded and insult/ label my clearly explained opinions, and call me contradictory. You can't follow a single line of thought other than your own. Go get yourself an "I voted sticker," and sit the f down.
Dismissed. - +1 y
@Rosexøxø Someone would have to present truth to this point you have not. The fact that your spending time arguing against statements that weren't made only goes to prove how much your position is based on feeling. In fact explain to me how interfering in another individuals private legal decision can be based on anything but feeling? As for court, you would probably be forced to actually provide a straight answer vs these long winded opinion pieces that hold no value or little relevance to the subject matter. I'm glad you're done because TBH this issue is much to important to be driven by emotion.
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@Vegasrunner what argument? I clearly dismissed you lmfao.
Which also hints at the fact I could be emotionally invested in this, but I logically see-
You're stupid XD
These are just your "after-thoughts" on everything, I guess.
Go ahead take a whack at the hammer. I think you've proven pretty nicely here, for all of us, in this thread to look back on you have no real level of comprehension. I think you're some bot who just listens to others speak and then replays those words to other people.
UNORIGINAL
Sheep go: ba-baaaa
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@Vegasrunner you’re embarrassing yourself now mate, you’re replies are sad, almost laughable. Do us all a favour and shush 🤐
@Rosexøxø 💗 - +1 y
@Vegasrunner I have argued with other girls here. Most are pretty chill as long as you are respectful.
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@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Lol, so you say. However evidence is to the contrary. You shared an opposing POV to @Rosexøxø and she responded exactly how I told you she would. You consider her responses "respectful"?
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@Vegasrunner @This_Is_My_Opinion8 it's good to know you both need to validate your own stupidity, and paint yourselves to be these logically polite people who are saints in these political endeavors :)
Just gives me hope people can do or become whatever they put their mind to, even if what they believe is total shxt :]
As of now, I bid everyone in this overdrawn thread, my adieu :) - +1 y
@Vegasrunner, your lack of intellectual awareness concerns me as you ‘didn’t know I exist’ yet I’m the owner of this post. You’re too busy dwelling over a comment and going back n fourth without making an actual point. Rose nor me need this stupidity in our lives. Why not join a book club? You’ll get all the validation you need :) please go take your unsolicited opinion elsewhere as we’re very much happy without it. Believe it or not, we’ll live :)
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@Rosexøxø You've already said that. I dont think anyone is stopping you from leaving the conversation. As for @This_Is_My_Opinion8 this is based on a previous conversation where I explained to him women aren't able to be rational, when their POV is challenged. You've only helped to validate my point, so I would enjoy if you continued to spew your hypocritical, contradictory POV as it only strengthens my position. Thsnks.
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@Hafia_xo All of those things sound like your own personal problems, and don't really have any basis in reality. I didn't reply to you I replied to the contradictory girl providing an alternative POV. I'm not even sure why you felt the need to reach out, but if you have something of relevance to share then please share if not then not sure what value you bring.
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@Vegasrunner Now this is no longer about the political matter that was at hand earlier, this is about you and your perspective on WOMEN.
I replied because you can easily converse with this 'opinion guy' in dms, and not exchange ghost stories of the 'myths' of the past, or self-fulfilling, prophetical lies spewed today by society.
According to some of your ingrained beliefs, women are the ones who are the supposed ones to get lost in conversation- not men. So we closed this topic, and you can be mature and continue it with opinions or you can be "like a woman," and make this thread "messy" and chaotic with your on-going "exchanges."
After all, this is @Hafia_xo 's post and MY posted opinion to her question. So if you have no ACTUAL question or reply to HER, then continuing this craziness would be just that- Crazy.
Let me say this to you and your little head:
Common sense cannot be taught to fools and folly. - +1 y
Lmao I love how you said we would both live without his nonsense. That's a 100% TRUTH XD
and I didn't think about that before, but you could be on to something... his responses sure seem like the symptoms of a break down lol I hope he and the opinion guy can find a therapy hotline, or dm each other for that clearly needed support. XD - +1 y
@Vegasrunner at first no. Then I was respectful, call her on it and her tone changed.
But who said she is represents most of my dialogues here with women?
Honestly she is a more accurate representation of my dialogues here with men! Difference is usually I don't get a change of tone when I try to have a civilized conversation. - +1 y
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And to make it perfectly clear I mean agree in that we are both pro choice.
In regard to "women are irrational" that comes from his personal need to feel superior and the necessity to validate other conservative views he has also linked to women.
But that is his bias. Literally 5 minutes in this site will make anyone know how irrational men can be from the comments we see around. - +1 y
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Awe okay :) and thanks for that. I do TRY to stay away from trends and being closed-minded.
I apologize. He made it seem as if you both agreed to multiple things. I'll take your word for it, and understand two different individuals, (majority of the time) means two different stances of opinions. - +1 y
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 yeah you and I disagree on the social-political concept, discussed earlier, posed by @Hafia_xo but I agree with everything you said about the difference of opinion, and the irrationality that tends to linger behind QUITE the handful of men and women on this site. lol
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@Rosexøxø and what you did right there just proved him wrong. You know I disagree with you on abortion, heavy topic, yet there you are being respectful to me.
He confuses disagreeing with provoking. He didn't just disagreed with you he also provoked you. Even tried to used me for that.
Is like kicking someone and being surprised they are mad.
And he is supposed to be the rational one... - +1 y
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 bahahaha I love how well you depicted him. He can't hide from people who obviously have a clear perception :) This sits well for me XD Thank you for that addition
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OMG righttt lol I can see now, he had painted you and @This_Is_My_Opinion8 to be opposed to me in some way, and you both instead, showed your true colors and personal beliefs. Glad we all know he is wrong in one way or the other XD
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3.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. The British statesman and political philosopher Edmund Burke wrote, "The effect of liberty to individuals is that they may do as they please. We ought see what it will please them to do before we risk congratulations." Therein lay the problem with laws that permit abortion on demand.
A society that premises its law as "Choice"- to use the locution of abortion rights advocates - effectively leaves open the question of the value of human life. It becomes not a standing principle, but a subjective judgment to each individual. In such a society, human life becomes not an end in itself, but mere instrument. Life becomes not an object whose preservation is the highest standard, but rather a convenience to be maintained or not according to the satisfaction of another's will.
We shape our laws and then our laws shape us - see also the civil rights laws of the 1960s which have effected a revolution in race relations. (The idea that a black man and a white man cannot sit together at the same lunch counter is as alien to this generation as Neptune. Yet in 1965 it was pretty much the norm.)
Inherent then in the pro-choice argument is the idea that life has no value save that which each person chooses to attach to it. It denies society any authority to make a collective judgment on such questions. Therefore, in this view, the law may not afford protection to life except at some arbitrarily defined (and inherently subjective) point.
This then conduces to an assertion of power over rights. Life is maintained not as its own end, but according to the will of the person who, effectively, controls it because they can. An ethic of convenience is established and it is a slippery slope on which to build a culture and a legal edifice.
Such a society will not value life that sees life as not an end, but as a means to some other end. Indeed, that is why at about the same time as the culture began to shift on the abortion question we also saw a rise in child abuse, spousal abuse, divorce, out of wedlock births and other social pathologies. These were not unrelated phenomena.
Aristotle said that the first questions of politics are, "How ought we to live? What kind of a people do we wish to be?" The implicit answer of those who support abortion on demand is, in effect, that it is nobody's business. Predictable results follow. One cannot expect the society to absent itself from collective moral judgments on the value of life and then expect an ethical social order to result.
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I am mostly Pro-choice and I've written MANY MyTakes explaining why I don't respect the pro-life argument. It's ironic conservatives get as over-emotional and become all "feelings over facts" on that one issue, when they otherwise mock liberals for doing the same thing. The pro-life argument is as retarded and emotion-based as believing in 72 genders and non-binary crap. I swear, this stupid abortion BS was ALL everyone talked about on GAG throughout the past June and it annoyed me to no end. I even had to block one jackass on here because of his militant pro-life stance. I thought we FINISHED the abortion argument crap back in the 90s?
I said, I personally support abortions up until the end of the second trimester, because a "baby" is not a baby until then, which is why we call them a fetus, and embryo, prior to that stage of development. By the third trimester, the baby can be C-sectioned and survive outside the womb, but before that, it is not fully developed enough, aka, fetuses can't survive outside the womb and aren't actual babies yet. I ALSO said however, that what people choose to do with their children, is no one else's business but their own. So even if I do find aborting an 6-month old baby to be barbaric, because it is none of my business what parents choose to do with their offspring.
Anyway, I've explained my reasoning for being pro-choice in the past and the simple version is:
- You can't force parenthood on people
- The world is overpopulated enough as it is
- There's finite resources in the world and not even enough to go around for the people who currently exist
- And almost all pro-life people tend to be hypocrites, having loose sex outside of marriage and interrupting the reproductive process via condoms and morning after pills (aka, ABORTION).If you're willing to f*ck random women, you cannot call yourself "pro-life." Shut the f*ck up with that nonsense!
If you're not willing to pay a dime in child resources, welfare, or government programs to help these single mothers with their child POST BIRTH, then you need to worry about your own life and stay the f*ck out of other people's business. Claiming you "care about dem babies" and then going "not my problem" after they're born, makes you the biggest hypocrite and asshole on the planet. Yet, so many pro-lifers on GAG are like that.
So yeah, I'm pro-choice up until the third-trimester, but ultimately, who chooses to be a parent or not is none of my business.
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50 ReplyPro-choice but pro-birth. Let me explain. I believe that every life deserves a chance and that a woman should have every available means of support for her and her child, if she chooses to keep it. However, I am not for forcing a woman to have a child she doesn't want/isn't ready to have. It's a very personal choice, and each circumstance is different. I don't believe that the right to have an abortion should be taken away, but every resource should be brought forth and known to a woman who may be thinking about having an abortion if she's in bad circumstances. I hope that makes sense. Basically, abortion should be an available option, but only if a woman thinks that's the last resort and her best option.
Also of course if the pregnancy becomes a health risk for the mother or if there is a known abnormality that would be lethal for the fetus, the pregnancy should be terminated. I think one of the best examples of this are ectopic pregnancies. They can never persist to full term as they can cause massive hemorrhage which would kill the mother. They are considered "nonviable".
If I remember correctly some dickhead lawmakers were trying to make it so that ectopic pregnancies couldn't be terminated. Correct me if I'm wrong on this.22 Reply- +1 y
@Hafia_xo Really? I didn't know that. Honestly I used to be hardcore pro-life but my views have changed since listening to various women's stories. Also I'm going to school for ultrasound so after learning about all the terrible things that can potentially go wrong with a pregnancy, I believe abortion should definitely be an option.
+1 yPro-abortion. We have already seen the consequences of total abortion bans.
I do understand it is a difficult dilemma to reach a middle ground on. But it is important to consider those who have been victims of assault, abuse, and incest. We have to consider twelve and thirteen-year-old little girls. We have to consider those who have medical conditions which cause pregnancy and childbirth a risk to their own lives. A lot of the time, the most selfless thing to do is have an abortion.
It's not a pretty subject and I highly doubt that most people who have one genuinely want to do it and repeat the experience. A lot of people who get abortions already have children and may not have the capacity to feed and house another. It's terribly sad but we are not all that privileged.
Also, consider the adoption/foster program which has been infamously fucked up for decades. Part of the reason why is because the social workers are overworked and burnt out- and the system is just screwy. I do believe that most social workers have a genuine care to find support and resources, and safe placement for children. But the system is traumatizing for so many.
Ultimately, I can respect those who admit that they don't like the thought of abortion but recognize that it's not their place to rule over. I don't think anyone non-ironically likes the idea at face value. But it is so dangerous that the people who designate these laws are not in touch with those who will actually be affected by it.
Also, sorry. But you're not considered pregnant right after the fact! It takes 2 weeks for someone to actually even be considered "pregnant".
I encourage people to look into what "conception" means. It is a gray area. But I do believe that a total abortion ban would be a big step backwards in society and cause further trauma to already-traumatized and underprivileged communities.23 Reply- +1 y
I see. So let’s just allow women to keep getting abortions, because they know they won’t have to hold themselves accountable.
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@WhiteBoyChill
They are no more or less accountable than the semen pumper. - +1 y
I guarantee you if women had to face actual consequences, they’d behave a lot more responsibly
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI am not "pro abortion", but I support choice because I think it is a complicated issue and the decision should be left up to the individual.
HOWEVER, the facts show that about 95% of the time when a woman chooses to abort it is for reasons like not wanting a child to interfere with career or education plans, not being financially prepared to support a child, being too young to take on the responsibilities of being a parent, not being in a stable relationship with the father, or just not being emotionally ready for the commitment of parenthood. In other words, nothing to do with "bodily autonomy" and everything to do with all of the very same reasons why a man might wish to opt out of becoming a parent.
With that said, I will only support choice when it applies to both women AND men. If women can have the "easy out" that abortion offers, men should also have a similar option in the form of a paper abortion (aka financial abortion), provided certain requirements are met.
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Pro-Choice. I may not agree with abortions, but I also don't believe it's my place to impose my belief on to others; thus I'll defend a woman's right to choose in the matter. I've always found it hypocritical when people argue about the rights and feelings of a fetus in the topic of murder, but are all for spading/neutering their animals or even euthanization (all against an animals' will).
It also disgusts me that people will see young girls be raped and abused only to end up pregnant and have the very people that should be protecting them say "She needs to keep the baby, now she gets to experience motherhood."
Making abortion illegal isn't going to stop them; people have always and will always find a way. All it does is make them unsafe. If you need proof, look at everything the government has made illegal and how many people find a way to get said things.
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@Sirenboobzilla Not only that but many people who are pro-life are also pro death penalty, pro gun, and pro war. Their morality is selective. When it comes to actual living beings whose lives can be taken, they're silent.
Pro-life.
Because if we, as society, want to keep saving suicide attempters (basically going against their will to save their lives), keep patients in coma plugged in (who are only alive because of the machine), and keep arresting armed criminals instead of police just shooting them on sight, we should be consistent and also give a chance to the embryo to live.
Parents already made their choice by having sex (rapists should be punished more). Plus isn't the basics of freedom that mine freedom ends where another's freedom begins? So why should we ignore the freedom to be alive?11 Reply- 7.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. +1 y
I'm pro staying out of the other persons life since in general, I can't be there to watch them in how they treat the child. that makes me pro choice. But I'm also pro helping them in moral support, learning to be good parents and being responsible. That should be civic duty for those competent.
I dont' like people murdering their kids but if they dont' want them and won't give them up to adoption, they have no chance in this world. We need a better system of support rather than arguing about this political issue.
20 Reply 1.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Pro choice especially when it comes to medical issues where the baby won't survive after birth. So wrong to force women to keep pregnancies that won't even make it and can literally harm their own health.
60 Reply1.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I'm pro people need to stop being stupid and lazy about sex. With how easy it is for a woman or man to get some form contraceptive there isn't an excuse for a lot of abortions. Because they simply come down to people being stupid and lazy about sex. If we are are talking about rape, incest or actual medical issues, I'm all for it. But if we are talking about an abortion because both of them where too stupid and lazy to grab a damn condom from a gas station, I'm highly against it.
Also women if a guy is trying to pressure you to have sex without a condom or any other form of contraceptive, hit him in the head repeatedly with a brick. Because we don't need those idiots having kids anyway.
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You either believe life begins when your first uniquely formed at conception or you believe it begins at any other arbitrary point that might as well be never.
Birth is not a natural line, it is simply the point where you hopefully are ready to leave one home for anther.Not all of us were quite ready when we left, but we were very much alive and a unique person nonetheless. If we are allowed the chance we may even become strong enough to prove that fact to you.
So being pro-choice is simply you choosing an arbitrary point convenient to yourself having past it where you might disregard the human right to life of anther who has not.
This is as unfair to everyone else as it is of course barbaric.13 Reply
Opinion Owner+1 y@Rosexøxø I can't speak to what the lord made me as I was indeed one of them that left my first home too soon.
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neither. i think that abortion should be illegal generally speaking but i think certain exceptions should exist.
for example in medical cases where giving birth is a deadly risk, the woman should have the right to choose her own life over the life of the baby. and i think that a woman should have the right to not give birth to a child that is a result of rape or in case of a pregnancy of a minor. maybe a few other exceptions that i can't think of right now.
but other than that, i think people should be held accountable for the results of their sex life and not just murder babies as a form of birth control. you didn't wanna get pregnant? well too bad. now you are. be an adult and deal with the consequences. men can't opt out of the responsibility of fatherhood so women shouldn't be able to opt out of the responsibility of motherhood.
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Pro Life but I think we need to do better to make sure the baby and the mother are provided for once the pregnancy is over we can’t just say our work here is done. The whole welfare state needs to be overhauled as well as education, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and More
Also if the Baby is going to die anyway and take the mother with them then abortion is an unfortunate medical necessity.
But I think it should be avoided if at all possible. Every life deserves a chance00 Reply - +1 y
I'm pro-life and not because I'm a man trying to control or regulate women's bodies, rather, someone that just thinks abortion is a nasty and immoral thing that did not have to be inevitable and doesn't feel comfortable making this legal and normalized as the thing to do when one's bad decisions catches up to them. Everyone can 100% avoid unwanted pregnancies by just not having sex with someone you don't want to also have a child with, raise a family with, marry, etc.
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I am pro- this choice should be between the patient and the physician. NObody else should have a word to say about the matter. This is far too complex an issue to put in the hands of ANY politician or evangelical leader.
All the disgust porn of the far right politicians and religious zealots about 3rd trimester elective abortions etc. is just fearmongering to sway people to their side with lies. Things like that are done ONLY in medical life threatening emergency.00 Reply You don't go to hell to scream and burn for all eternity for having an abortion.
Fetuses do not have rights.32 Reply- +1 y
There is no such thing as hell. You clearly don't understand the Bible.
Pro choice. Animals have natural abortions when there is something wrong with the baby. And a lot of females get raped in this world. They should have a choice.
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It’s too complicated to just be on one side or another. I believe in freedom and families. So which side does that put me on?
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Yep that’s me. I love my family and my freedom. So would I be on one side or the other?
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That would be horrible :( not only would I support her decision to get an abortion but I would try to help her heal and recover. Rape is disgusting and unfortunately impacts the victim for the rest of their life. Why would I force a victim to be pregnant?
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Def agree that extreme pro lifers have extreme views. But I hope most people can see a middle ground and be for all life whether it’s a baby or someone older
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Are you trying to say that you acknowledge that it's an individual's decision?
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Everything in life is a choice. When it comes to pregnancy those choices become complicated because it’s not just about one individual.
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Fair enough, so you're kind of saying you're neutral?
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I also believe there are cases when our choices don’t matter. If a young girl is raped her choice was taken away and she should take plan B. If she dad impregnates her she has no choice and should abort the child.
However I don’t agree with a girl who has sex by her choice and gets pregnant and decides a few days before that she doesn’t want to deliver her baby so she gets an abortion. This is why I say there is middle ground. Why does it have to be only one way or another?
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Pro choice. I personally feel abortion is morally wrong but I don’t believe in the government trying to force that belief on others. Don’t like abortion? Then don’t get one. We all need to mind our own business.
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“I personally feel abortion is morally wrong”
So then why the f*ck do you believe in being complicit in regards to such a heinous act against humanity? 
Opinion Owner+1 y@WhiteBoyChill My moral code guides my own actions. What right do I have to impose my own beliefs on others who don’t share those beliefs? That’s called oppression. I don’t want to control someone else’s reproduction. It’s none of my business.
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This isn’t just some whatever someone feels like kind of situation.
This is literally a matter of life and death. And you’re choosing to let someone else get away with murder.
F*ck them and whatever it is THEY want for themselves. They’re just being a bunch of selfish assh*les and they deserve no sympathy for their own poor choices. - +1 y
@WhiteBoyChill like your user suggests, chill!
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@leighbee Why should I when the topic is murder? It’s not just a “oh whatever they’re not harming anyone” kind of situation
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@leighbee well I see you’re trying to pull some kind of nerve. And that shit isn’t gonna work on me
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@WhiteBoyChill It’s an embryo that is not self-aware, nor does it have constitutional rights. Calling it murder is a stretch. The opposition is mainly religious in nature, an attempt to legislate morality….. which has no place in a secular government. I wouldn’t have the heart to do it myself but someone else’s abortion doesn’t trample on my rights. Again, how is someone’s reproduction my (or your) business?
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It isn’t. It is however the business of the unborn person being involved
8.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I'm pro-choice by technicality. While I think abortion is immoral in the vast majority of cases, I don't support the banning because not having the state involved is better for everyone.
If you want to abort to your heart's content, you can take that up with God.
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I am prolife, babies shouldn't be murdered just cause people don't know how to responsible when it comes to sex.
21 Reply Neither, and the polish law make sense to me, abortion only in very bad cases.
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I'm somewhere in the middle. Within certain legitimate restrictions, I believe the choice of carrying a pregnancy to full term should be the choice of the woman and her doctor.
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Neither, I'm pro-abortion. As a rule, I have no problem with either parent having full, independent right to terminate pregnancy up to and conditionally beyond 16 months past conception.
(Yes, I'm aware of the math on that)00 Reply - +1 y
Pro choice yet I’m against most abortion. In cases of incest, rape, the mother’s life is in danger, yes feel free. If you were being irresponsible, I’m against it. BUT outlawing abortion won’t stop it. People will just find unsafe ways to.
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Half. If it's for a good reason like rape etc. Then pro choice but If she is only going through a break up and she doesn't want the baby and guy wants it to live then pro life. That's murder.
00 Reply 1.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. pro-choice but i believe pro-life should be allowed to be one of those choices as long as you don't force it on everyone else
10 ReplyPhilosophically, pro-life. Legally, I would not trust politicians with that much power, so would leave it up to the individual but hope that she would choose life.
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I say let the women who want abortions do it. I don’t care, doesn’t affect my existence. The world is already intensely overpopulated as it is.
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My personal view is that abortion should be mandatory for Democrats and banned for everyone else.
00 Reply 5.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Even though abortions are tragic, I am pro choice.
20 Reply2.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I could care less really, I rather the baby die og an abortion then in a Garbage can or Sewage pipe suffering.
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@leighbee unfortunately a lot of people grow up with good parents or semi great households where they always at least had a roof over the heads and never had to worry about being on the streets or living with others who could potentially hurt them or grew up with physically abusive parents, nor do they actually see the real world and what some firefighters and law enforcement and hospital staff and social services actually have to deal with that makes you say damn, those kids would have had it better if they were never born. So they have this ignorance about them that think all kids deserve to live but will ignore that child outside by themselves homeless and keep driving lol
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@Fuentes You're speaking facts and I do means facts. I was researching and the amount of kids in the foster care system that become criminals is SHOCKING. I often find the most hated people in society usually were the most abused and put into horrible environments growing up. It's pretty sad. It's like they get shit on when they enter the world, get turned into monstered, and get hated and shit on some more. Then they die.
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Pro choice for medical reasons.
60 Reply 26.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Pro choice, but somebody has to figure out when a fetus becomes a person.
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Pro choice. No one knows the circumstances that lead to someone's decision.
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In between. I’m pro not procreating, how about that? If the foetus already has a brain and heart and feelings, foeticide is evil. If the embryo doesn’t have them, it’s OK to make an abortion.
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Only i, the benevolent dictator can dictate.
Drag queen death is faked to the last minute. born on the 111th day of year (April 21) and died on the 1110th minute of day (6:30 pm)
There is 111 days in the year left after 9/11
died on sept 8..
911 days after covid was declared a pandemic by world health organization
1776days after first Qdrop (US yr)
69 years 3 mnths and 6 days after coronation
Her name equals 369
Her book was 96 pages long, the age of death
Born in 1+9+2+6=9
Died in 2+0+2+2=6
That is another 96.![Are you pro choice or Pro life?]()
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many drawings depict royalty as androgynous for a reason.![Are you pro choice or Pro life?]()
https://youtu.be/-NomQ61rNWo
they believe they become closer to god, because to them, the true meaning of a marriage is unifying the polar opposites in one body. "Sacred androgyny", normal marriage is merely a symbol for crossdressing, according to what 33rd degree freemasons wrote.
The person I saw mentioned on gag earlier today by rose, who danced to the radio music that I just heard playing at the bank I also visited today...
The person who danced to "funk" together with michael the flopping c0ck was Ellen DeGeneres.
I have never in my entire life seen a female with this shoulder to hip ratio.
Of course there are more traits I can mention. Such as the lack of low back curvature.
The masculine arms.
the other person on the beach with Ellen is a female. Ellen herself is male![Are you pro choice or Pro life?]()
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https://youtu.be/OaLwBMneofA
https://youtu.be/JuYWv7rcrBs
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I'm definitely pro choice. People should get to decide themselves when it comes to their own body.
20 Reply Pro liffe choice if you should be able to take care of it Doo so in my opinion, good father figure and mother sooundds like a keeper.
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I'm pro-choice because there's already overpopulation so why add to it when it could be prevented by people who don't want any kids
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I'm ''pro-common sense''.
There isn't a one-for-all solution.
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Pro life we can’t be absolutely sure when soul/spirit is infused in body when soul is infused it’s murder , better not do the pleasure deed or take Necessary precautions before rather than regret or feel guilty rest of eternity
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With due respect just like you have been given free will every individual craves for free will foremost is instinct to survive now as per you there are people who don’t believe in soul or eternity then what is the incentive we would be killing each other since survival would be our basic instinct like those in animal kingdom you know Darwin theory survival of the fittest
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Pro life with certain exceptions i. e. medical emergency to the mother, rape, incest and fetus deformity.
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Curious about incest. Who would have sex with a relative closely related? That’s indecent!
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@HippieVeganJewslim : A pervert will.
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I'm pro keeping my opinions to myself when it comes to abortion or politics.
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I'm pro-abortion. The planet is overpopulated and we don't need any more mouths to feed.
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Pro life for sure. I can't imagine anyone who's had a child being pro choice but I know they are out there.
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@Kaytiee Which tells me a lot about their core character. Any woman who would murder her own children is capable of anything.
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@Kaytiee No ma'am, there is no difference.
354 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Is there a compromize that makes everyone happy or will it always be an endless debate?
05 Reply3.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Im pro " don't have an opinion on things that will never directly affect me"
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I'm a pro choice because I'm not a supremacist.
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If you are decent human being you are pro life, end of story.
00 Reply I'm both, I believe your body your choice but I still at the same time view abortion as murder.
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I was pro choice but now I’m pro life
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Pro life every embryo deserves a chance regardless. But that’s just my opinion people can do whatever they want if it’s the right choice for them
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Pro-choice
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Is the downvote from the asker? Those are always my favorite downvotes 😂
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Sorry, it was immediately after I posted the opinion so I just assumed, lol.
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Pro choice
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You should of made this a poll.
11 Reply 590 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I'm very pro-choice.
10 Reply18.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Pro body autonomy. So…choice.
30 ReplyPro life
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Only i, the benevolent dictator can dictate.
Drag queen death is faked to the last minute. born on the 111th day of year (April 21) and died on the 1110th minute of day (6:30 pm)
There is 111 days in the year left after 9/11
died on sept 8..
911 days after covid was declared a pandemic by world health organization
1776days after first Qdrop (US yr)
69 years 3 mnths and 6 days after coronation
Her name equals 369
Her book was 96 pages long, the age of death
Born in 1+9+2+6=9
Died in 2+0+2+2=6
That is another 96.![Are you pro choice or Pro life?]()
![Are you pro choice or Pro life?]()
![Are you pro choice or Pro life?]()
many drawings depict royalty as androgynous for a reason.![Are you pro choice or Pro life?]()
https://youtu.be/-NomQ61rNWo
they believe they become closer to god, because to them, the true meaning of a marriage is unifying the polar opposites in one body. "Sacred androgyny", normal marriage is merely a symbol for crossdressing, according to what 33rd degree freemasons wrote.
The person I saw mentioned on gag earlier today by rose, who danced to the radio music that I just heard playing at the bank I also visited today...
The person who danced to "funk" together with michael the flopping c0ck was Ellen DeGeneres.
I have never in my entire life seen a female with this shoulder to hip ratio.
Of course there are more traits I can mention. Such as the lack of low back curvature.
The masculine arms.
the other person on the beach with Ellen is a female. Ellen herself is male![Are you pro choice or Pro life?]()
![Are you pro choice or Pro life?]()
![Are you pro choice or Pro life?]()
https://youtu.be/OaLwBMneofA
https://youtu.be/JuYWv7rcrBs
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Choice in choosing not to kill
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