Will never happen though.
You explained it very well with your examples.
What if he thinks abortion is murder?He should still say it is fine to kill the unborn?
He should be with a woman who thinks the same.
Ok. I'm glad you didn't say he should foece himself to think it's fine to kill the unborn
One mustn't change one's belief system just for other people's sake.
I don't care about abortion but I should not be forced to pay if she CHOOSES to have a baby.
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This dude makes some great points!
And it's happening more and more frequently in dating & marriage where the guy must make concessions to keep the girl rather than them both being willing to compromise.
Then answer the question, which masculinity isn't toxic?
@anylolone That’s no exactly a great response! If I say “that the issue is toxicity, NOT masculinity”, then by definition NO masculinity is toxic… So why would you ask what kind of masculinity IS toxic? People are toxic! Sure some will be men can be toxic, but still many, many more women are toxic. Given that no man has destroyed his wife’s prized belongings, trashed her car, or burned down the house, unlike female R&B artists have been advocating for twenty + years, if “your man steps out of line”! It’s just TOXIC,(Either Way)! See Lefty “Left Eye” Lopez, and Blu Cantrell et at…
Oh, so you mean there's no toxic masculinity, just toxicity.I wouldn't call those things just "toxic" I'd call those things violent crimes, but it makes sense.
Actually, it isn't toxic to destroy a man's stuff if he cheats. He's just getting what he deserves.
@Jamie05rhs Well under your logic, it’s not toxic ti hit a woman for “mouthing off” she’s just getting what she deserves! I mean if she just STFU, she’s be fine, right?
@CrazyGirl2 No. That isn't correct at all. And the two things are not even comparable.
@Jamie05rhs How are they not comparable? Burning someone’s hose down is an act of violence… What about the pets? What if someone was sleeping over, but she didn’t know when she set fire to his house? Nobody “Deserves” to have their worldly belongings stolen/destroyed because he doesn’t want to be with a woman anymore, or even if he cheated… lady, take your dignity and LEAVE HIM!. Also the courts agree, every case where a guy cheated on his girlfriend and she went on a shopping spree w/ his credit cards, or stole his clothes, jewelry cars, motorcycles etc was found liable for everything! There is NO “but he cheated on me” defense!
@Crazygirl No; I'm saying the offensive actions are not comparable. Saying something that someone may not like to hear is not on the same level as cheating!
@Jamie05rhs Okay, I agree. But I do not believe that men have this unique quality called toxicity! We women can be pretty effing toxic at times, that’s all I’m saying! I love guys, I think guys are awesome, and I’m getting really sick and tired of people today shitting all over men, as if women are just models of perfection. That’s all I meant, that the male /female bullshìt flows both ways!
Oh, okay; cool. I understand what you're saying.
@Jamie05rhs ok, cool.
@Jamie05rhs How it's not toxic to destroy someone's property due to cheating (or suspicion of cheating) and how's that not comparable to hitting someone?
@anylolone It's not toxic. It's psycho. But it's justified.But let's assume she did her research and got proof that he actually cheated.
@Jamie05rhs How is it justified?Doesn't matter, I was cheated on, in none of the occasions I had the urge or need to destroy anything of them.I don't know if you know this, but psycho is worst than toxic.
@anylolone It's justified because he should have been faithful. When people cheat, there need to be consequences. There needs to be some sort of deterrent.
@Jamie05rhs And? With that sort of mentality you can justify anything.All you are trying to do is justify a violence offense against a non-violent action.
@Jamie05rhs It’s NOT Justified, and fucking someone else when you have a girlfriend, does NOT mean you deserve to have all your belongings stolen or destroyed! Look, of the three of us, I’m the only one who’s a woman… and I HAVE been cheated on! That gave me the right to leave him, it gave me the right to NEVER speak to him again, it gave me the right to eat a pint of cookie dough, or even better, chocolate ice cream… It DOES NOT give me the right to charge up his credit cards, trash his car, steal his jewelry or watches, and burn his effing house down (like R&B singer “Left eye” Lopez DID)! Like I said earlier… Take your dignity, and go home! There will be other guys, but a prison sentence for arson is not MY idea of justice… also, every single penny I steal from him, or charge on his credit cards, I will have to repay, because AGAIN… there is no “but he cheated on me” defense in court!
Then what do you call toxic femininity? (Besides calling it "feminism"?) If anything, women are catty, mean, spiteful, and backstabbing to each other more than men are, making them the more "toxic" gender out there. And yet feminists never say jack shit about this. Not that feminists are worth listening to anyway; they're literally some of stupidest people on planet Earth. Down there with Flat Earthers.
@MCheetah there's such thing as toxic femininity too. Though difference is it's not ingrained into human culture and often affects just woman whereas toxic masculinity affects everyone.
That's such crap and just a way to excuse women from any accountability. Not surprising. You're telling me mean girls in high school, general gossip from suburban housewives, and cancel culture isn't ingrained into society and doesn't affect men and women?This is why I hate feminism.
@MCheetah I meant to say it's not as ingrained. Toxic masculinity is encouraged. Nobody is really encouraged to gossip or be a shitty person
"Toxic masculinity is encouraged."Again, that's completely false.Also, women are encouraged to act sh*tty to other women in order to "fit in" with the cool girls, all the time!
@MCheetah bullshit? "Boys will be boys" "men don't cry" "man up".
@MCheetah also like I said toxic femininity almost always only affects women. Not men and women as toxic masculinity does.
"Boys will be boys" "men don't cry" Again, nobody actually says this sh*t. It's not the 1950s.And "man up" is the only one that makes sense, because crying and being a little baby doesn't solve anything and doesn't help anyone, yourself or others. Women aren't expected to have to be brave or fix anything in society at any given time, so this doesn't apply to them. You're trying to use female logic and rules on men, which is the very failure of your argument. Men are not women, so what works for you, a woman, won't work for men.Let's just agree to disagree here, as we seem to be worlds apart when it comes to seeing society. I don't look at everything through the lens of "does it make a middle-class, First World white woman slightly uncomfortable?"
@MCheetah you just explained toxic masculinity, complained about it and still think it's not real. ☺️ Interesting
The thing that's not "real" is the "toxic" part. We don't need anyone "womansplaining" on how men should act and behave and why it's "wrong" according to 5-10% of women in society (feminists).You're basically complaining about masculinity in general and want all men to be crying, overemotional pussies with no backbone or an ounce of bravery, because it's what suits a small minority of insecure women in the world.Like I said, let's just agree that we disagree, here.
@MCheetah I mean sure whatever, we can agree to disagree, not like to changes anything at all. ☺️
I think the only men feminists approve of are ftm trans men, and mtf trans women.