I'm assuming it's bc some men are insecure and they feel inadequate so to make up for it they try to provide for someone? Maybe bc it makes them feel like they're not in control? I honestly don't know. Just theories
No one is threatened by independent women. We're just annoyed by bitches who consider acting like fucking asshole as "being independent" and "being strong". Anytime one of them start being a gigantic shithead and someone protests, she says that he feels "threatened". No, he doesn't feel threatened, he, and many men, are getting annoyed that women can be massive bitches and get away with it under the excuse of "being strong and independant".
Let's clarify something here - not being interested in a woman does not equal being "threatened" by her. No man is threatened by an "independent woman". He's just not attracted to her in a way that would compel him to pursue a relationship with her.
No such thing. In todays time women excert power over men but are still depending on them for everything. From the food on the table as most farmer are men, to their electricity and water working as most plumber and electricians are men. The very house women live in were most likley built by men.
In fact, The only women I percieve as useful are the ones working in health are while everyone else is just a user.
I don't object to independent women so long as they don't blame me for their problems or demand I live up to contradictory or unlivable standards. Don't criticize me both for not rebuking other men's sexism and then for doing so and thus undermining your independence.
Sheesh., tell him he has my deepest sympathies, and if he ever needs a shoulder to cry on, or an extra shovel to hide the corpse, there is someone who can help...
Why would independant women care what men think? They should be happy being independant.
I don't trust a womans word, so the only thing i would trust would be her dependance on me. A woman who has nothing to lose from treating you bad is not one you should invest time or effort in.
This makes no sense. So you want leverage to make sure your partner stays? That is not a relationship that is a hostage situation. Find one that doesn't have nothing to lose, besides you. That should be enough If it isn't then kick her to the curb.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Women get offered a new "you" ten times a week. Losing "you" ain't that big deal to her. She already thinks she can do better anyway. The prospect of losing other things though is important to her.
But that is not a you. That is another dude who is not you. Girls complain that it's hard for them to find a decent guy because literally almost only trash looking for sex throws itself at them. They are not special. You are.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 why should i prioritize female dating difficulties over male dating difficulties? Believing your special in the eyes of a woman is a setup or failure. Its 10 more dudes she thinks just as special as you if not more. Which is probably why men only persue them for sex. because they already been through that BS of believing she thought "you" were special
No one is telling you to prioritize their difficulties in dating. First, unless you are talking with a girl with a strong social media presence, who post bikini pictures etc, she won't have those ten dudes surrounding her. Second, even if she does have that social media presence do you really think you are the same as all the guys that desperately try to get her attention? They are not good choices and she knows it.
who’s threatenEd? What a crock of sh1t! Independent woman you mean women to take men to court and steal all their wealth and house and etc. after divorce?
Or when women says men that says quality and say that the guy should do this do that do this do that which means all the benefits that they like?
Oh yeah that’s really threatening.
Women pretend like they’re independent all they do is copy men and they think men will be turned on by their qualities that they look for in us but we’re not women.
Men love a girl who can carry her own weight. Issue is normally those girls are ugly/fat and/ or past age 30.
That’s what females do all they do is deny. When was the last time you saw a Woman admit to anything? You sound like you’re delusional you didn’t backfire to nothing Karen! and one day your mouth is going to get you milk Tysoned.
Strange none of them stick around. Oh wait maybe because they were only being nice in passing until they found out all you’d do is bad mouth them. Really dude you sound like a doomer.
Are you stupid? When did I say women never exploit. NEVER! What I said was men have been exploiting everything and everyone for centuries. Sounds more like you’re in denial about thousands and thousands of years of screw ups by guys like you. You’re a loser and will continue to be because you’re a victim. People are attracted to survivors not weasel victims like you. Also most people who are honest don’t brag. They don’t have to.
See the Karen thing is pretty stupid too. You can’t just throw a term or a slang out whenever you don’t like what someone is saying. You’re right though, I definitely try not to do things that will backfire.
I don’t understand why you all pretty much say the same parroted things. I admit, Some women do take advantage of men. However, there are also plenty of men who take advantage of women. see when you say what you say how you say it- it makes you sound like a whiny crybaby bitch. People like you parrot because you don’t stop and think about what you’re actually saying. It’s boring and predictable. Nobody takes you seriously or respects you because you are thoughtless and shallow.
Independence or selfishness? I don't think they should have kids for someone else to raise. In my case , I could watch the kid (or make him do the work of my business) . Studies prove women that have careers are more likely to cheat on their husbands.
Yeah okay then why aren’t you and take it from a stay at home parent- no it isn’t all fun and games. Your lack of respect for the work parents have to do is disgusting.
😂😂😂 wow I knew you were going to say something like that. You actually just called a housewife a feminazi. Lol. That is soooooo overused. Just because I have reason, doesn’t mean I’m a whatever stupid thing you say. Just that term makes you sound like uneducated trash. I actually feel a mix of pity, disgust and amusement by you. It’s like no matter what you’d just regurgitate that. Notice I said parents and not just mothers. That’s because I’m open minded and understanding enough to filter out any of your garbage and bias. But maybe that’s why I’m not alone like you.
To be fair, I think the reason statistics may show that career women cheat more is because they're out of the house and interacting with more people. As someone who works mostly on my own, I definitely don't interact with as many people as most career people do, and can see how a SAHM situation is pretty similar. However, I've known plenty of SAHMs to cheat as well, and think it has much more to do with character and morals than occupation or lack thereof.
@aWes0MeNeSs I’ve not found any data to support that. There are professions that cheaters are more likely to get into though. Healthcare is one of them.
@Cheechee4me The problem with statistics is that they are easily manipulated to get the intended result people want, plus there are usually a lot of holes in them considering all they are essentially is a poll most of the time. There may be more in certain fields, but I still think character and morals largely determine whether or not someone decides to cheat.
If that's actually true then movies enjoyed overwhelmingly by men like the Alien or Terminator franchises and game series like Metroid or Tomb Raider would have flopped a long time ago.
The reason it seems men don't like "strong and independent" women is that some of them think that means being appalling human beings.
I have never seen the independent girl. Women that go to college are not doing so for independence. They are doing so for materialistic reasons. They will get with a guy making as much if not more money only to spend the money in such a way to make themselves dependent on a man even more. Women don't desire independence. Men do, and the proof is MGTOW.
I wanted a girl who wanted marriage and family. Her job isn't her main priority. If career was her main priority of her life and she plans to marry at 30-35... she wasn't my type.
Nice speech kid. I wish you guys well in your complete and 100% total independence from needing men in all areas of life and situations. And all means all. Good luck.
That’s not true at all men don’t care independence has made women more depressed and lonely than past generations we’re glad that we don’t have to support a grown ass person like they are little kids by the way women have had independence for a long time those women chose to be wives and mothers
Anyone who does not want someone to have the capacity to be free and independent lack the viewpoint of what it means to love. It seems they learned what love is but have never felt it, and if they have, they certainly forgot what it is.
Yeah men are so threatened by women because they are all so beautiful and intelligent and powerful and genuine and confident and women really are amazing. Men only hate women if they are jealous they can't be good at stuff like women can, you're right.
I prefer an independent woman. I cannot stand dating damsels in distress who cannot do a damn thing. I do not mind helping, but I cannot stand dependency.
"How can someone be too financially independent?" By talking everytime, everywhere, by bragging, by being arrogant, by forgetting other Things that are important in a couples life. Is the same as a sucessful men only brags about his car, his NY house, his brand shirt... nobody cares about your independence, is Boring to talk like the men Who puts his BMW key at the dinner table
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I'm assuming it's bc some men are insecure and they feel inadequate so to make up for it they try to provide for someone? Maybe bc it makes them feel like they're not in control? I honestly don't know. Just theories
No one is threatened by independent women. We're just annoyed by bitches who consider acting like fucking asshole as "being independent" and "being strong".
Anytime one of them start being a gigantic shithead and someone protests, she says that he feels "threatened". No, he doesn't feel threatened, he, and many men, are getting annoyed that women can be massive bitches and get away with it under the excuse of "being strong and independant".
Let's clarify something here - not being interested in a woman does not equal being "threatened" by her. No man is threatened by an "independent woman". He's just not attracted to her in a way that would compel him to pursue a relationship with her.
No such thing. In todays time women excert power over men but are still depending on them for everything. From the food on the table as most farmer are men, to their electricity and water working as most plumber and electricians are men. The very house women live in were most likley built by men.
In fact, The only women I percieve as useful are the ones working in health are while everyone else is just a user.
So to you the engineers, the doctors, the world leaders, etc that are women don't count.
I don't object to independent women so long as they don't blame me for their problems or demand I live up to contradictory or unlivable standards. Don't criticize me both for not rebuking other men's sexism and then for doing so and thus undermining your independence.
Hmm... You need to step into this day and age then kiddo, and stop living off your daddy.
Men aren't "threatened" by much. But most hate pretentious people, like you are appearing to be
Honey. My husband and I are doing very well in the house we bought with the down payment I saved for but thank you for your concern.
Sheesh., tell him he has my deepest sympathies, and if he ever needs a shoulder to cry on, or an extra shovel to hide the corpse, there is someone who can help...
Why would independant women care what men think? They should be happy being independant.
I don't trust a womans word, so the only thing i would trust would be her dependance on me.
A woman who has nothing to lose from treating you bad is not one you should invest time or effort in.
This makes no sense.
So you want leverage to make sure your partner stays?
That is not a relationship that is a hostage situation.
Find one that doesn't have nothing to lose, besides you. That should be enough
If it isn't then kick her to the curb.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Women get offered a new "you" ten times a week. Losing "you" ain't that big deal to her. She already thinks she can do better anyway. The prospect of losing other things though is important to her.
But that is not a you.
That is another dude who is not you.
Girls complain that it's hard for them to find a decent guy because literally almost only trash looking for sex throws itself at them. They are not special.
You are.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 why should i prioritize female dating difficulties over male dating difficulties? Believing your special in the eyes of a woman is a setup or failure. Its 10 more dudes she thinks just as special as you if not more. Which is probably why men only persue them for sex. because they already been through that BS of believing she thought "you" were special
And this is why you will end up unsatisfied and unfulfilled
No one is telling you to prioritize their difficulties in dating.
First, unless you are talking with a girl with a strong social media presence, who post bikini pictures etc, she won't have those ten dudes surrounding her.
Second, even if she does have that social media presence do you really think you are the same as all the guys that desperately try to get her attention? They are not good choices and she knows it.
No more alone, unsatisfied and full of self hate than independant women have left me
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 My personal experience has taught me otherwise
Best of luck on your next one
who’s threatenEd? What a crock of sh1t!
Independent woman you mean women to take men to court and steal all their wealth and house and etc. after divorce?
Or when women says men that says quality and say that the guy should do this do that do this do that which means all the benefits that they like?
Oh yeah that’s really threatening.
Women pretend like they’re independent all they do is copy men and they think men will be turned on by their qualities that they look for in us but we’re not women.
Men love a girl who can carry her own weight. Issue is normally those girls are ugly/fat and/ or past age 30.
Yeah men financially exploit men and women both all the time. Yoh didn’t care until it started to backfire due to years of complacency on your part.
That’s what females do all they do is deny. When was the last time you saw a Woman admit to anything? You sound like you’re delusional you didn’t backfire to nothing Karen! and one day your mouth is going to get you milk Tysoned.
And you sound like you have a victim mentality
Whatever I am I seem to attracting a lot of young hot girls. I should been victim mentality a lot sooner then.
I’m sure you do, you just ooz confidence and masculinity….
Strange none of them stick around. Oh wait maybe because they were only being nice in passing until they found out all you’d do is bad mouth them. Really dude you sound like a doomer.
Are you stupid? When did I say women never exploit. NEVER! What I said was men have been exploiting everything and everyone for centuries. Sounds more like you’re in denial about thousands and thousands of years of screw ups by guys like you. You’re a loser and will continue to be because you’re a victim. People are attracted to survivors not weasel victims like you. Also most people who are honest don’t brag. They don’t have to.
See the Karen thing is pretty stupid too. You can’t just throw a term or a slang out whenever you don’t like what someone is saying. You’re right though, I definitely try not to do things that will backfire.
Men like you are so pathetic, you’re even screwing kids out of their child support now. What a screaming inferiority complex you are.
I don’t understand why you all pretty much say the same parroted things. I admit, Some women do take advantage of men. However, there are also plenty of men who take advantage of women. see when you say what you say how you say it- it makes you sound like a whiny crybaby bitch. People like you parrot because you don’t stop and think about what you’re actually saying. It’s boring and predictable. Nobody takes you seriously or respects you because you are thoughtless and shallow.
Okay so you’re a grown man who just threatened to punch me for telling you that men and women both are capable of screwing each other over? You twerp.
Sorry Subaru was directed at MJ.
Independence or selfishness? I don't think they should have kids for someone else to raise. In my case , I could watch the kid (or make him do the work of my business) . Studies prove women that have careers are more likely to cheat on their husbands.
Then you stay home and take care of them. Oh but that wouldn’t fit your agenda.
@Cheechee4me Sure , I love kids. We can play all day
Yeah okay then why aren’t you and take it from a stay at home parent- no it isn’t all fun and games. Your lack of respect for the work parents have to do is disgusting.
Sure studies show. Sounds like a misinformed red pill to me.
@Cheechee4me You sound like a feminazi
😂😂😂 wow I knew you were going to say something like that. You actually just called a housewife a feminazi. Lol. That is soooooo overused. Just because I have reason, doesn’t mean I’m a whatever stupid thing you say. Just that term makes you sound like uneducated trash. I actually feel a mix of pity, disgust and amusement by you. It’s like no matter what you’d just regurgitate that. Notice I said parents and not just mothers. That’s because I’m open minded and understanding enough to filter out any of your garbage and bias. But maybe that’s why I’m not alone like you.
@Cheechee4me what makes you think I am alone?
Sorry but it’s on your profile even. Besides most dudes who talk like you are.
@Cheechee4me Maybe I didn't update my profile. We are jumping to conclusions
Oh like you did when you called a housewife a feminazi. Haha you clown.
To be fair, I think the reason statistics may show that career women cheat more is because they're out of the house and interacting with more people. As someone who works mostly on my own, I definitely don't interact with as many people as most career people do, and can see how a SAHM situation is pretty similar. However, I've known plenty of SAHMs to cheat as well, and think it has much more to do with character and morals than occupation or lack thereof.
@aWes0MeNeSs I’ve not found any data to support that. There are professions that cheaters are more likely to get into though. Healthcare is one of them.
@Cheechee4me The problem with statistics is that they are easily manipulated to get the intended result people want, plus there are usually a lot of holes in them considering all they are essentially is a poll most of the time. There may be more in certain fields, but I still think character and morals largely determine whether or not someone decides to cheat.
If that's actually true then movies enjoyed overwhelmingly by men like the Alien or Terminator franchises and game series like Metroid or Tomb Raider would have flopped a long time ago.
The reason it seems men don't like "strong and independent" women is that some of them think that means being appalling human beings.
I have never seen the independent girl. Women that go to college are not doing so for independence. They are doing so for materialistic reasons. They will get with a guy making as much if not more money only to spend the money in such a way to make themselves dependent on a man even more. Women don't desire independence. Men do, and the proof is MGTOW.
I wanted a girl who wanted marriage and family.
Her job isn't her main priority.
If career was her main priority of her life and she plans to marry at 30-35... she wasn't my type.
And a mans job should be his main priority if he is a father and husband?
Yep. It's called biology
Nice speech kid. I wish you guys well in your complete and 100% total independence from needing men in all areas of life and situations. And all means all. Good luck.
No one said that but nice try
That’s not true at all men don’t care independence has made women more depressed and lonely than past generations we’re glad that we don’t have to support a grown ass person like they are little kids by the way women have had independence for a long time those women chose to be wives and mothers
I never said all men
No men are threatened by it
Some are
First many now it’s some smh are you making this up ass you go
None of them are women want men to care about that stuff so bad it’s laughable
😂 I’ll let you know when I wan your opinion. You’re the exception.
Yes yes we all know I’m the exceptional one but that other stuff we were talking about is completely false you failed to prove that they aren’t
Anyone who does not want someone to have the capacity to be free and independent lack the viewpoint of what it means to love. It seems they learned what love is but have never felt it, and if they have, they certainly forgot what it is.
Yeah men are so threatened by women because they are all so beautiful and intelligent and powerful and genuine and confident and women really are amazing. Men only hate women if they are jealous they can't be good at stuff like women can, you're right.
I prefer an independent woman. I cannot stand dating damsels in distress who cannot do a damn thing. I do not mind helping, but I cannot stand dependency.
I assume it's the other way around: they are too dependent, and unwilling to realize it.
And nothing I say or do will change it. So I make myself invisible to them.
How can someone be too financially independent?
Financially yes, emotionally no.
"How can someone be too financially independent?" By talking everytime, everywhere, by bragging, by being arrogant, by forgetting other Things that are important in a couples life. Is the same as a sucessful men only brags about his car, his NY house, his brand shirt... nobody cares about your independence, is Boring to talk like the men Who puts his BMW key at the dinner table
Because we can't be controlled and can't be forced to stay with a shitty partner now.
I think its because with that statement implies women don't need relationships