list and explain some reasons why men are so threatened and insecure about feminism and gender equality in general?
thoughtful and detailed responses are appreciated
its because a lot of guys on here are incredibly insecure. Really. Just look at the kinds of questions/myTakes guys are constantly writing on here. Feminism is threatening, because a lot of the guys can barely compete with the way things are now... let alone in a future where every woman can take care of themselves and don't need their help lol.
Stupid response. Men don't like woman wanting extra treatments... while also keeping their side of the bargain of 'equality'... aka them paying their own share on dates (unless the guy really wants to pay for her)... thats the posts your talking about. Quite being a white knight.
@Jamesol1 quit being a boy and man up. No one has time to be force fed this drivel... certainly not me
OH shut up with this man up crap. The point is... if feminsts want to push equality they have to live up to the down sides of it. Your the biggest white knight on this site. Any feminsts who agrees with what you are saying isn't a feminst. I personally don't mind the phrase but because they complain about everything... man up is also sexist if they want equality.
''let alone in a future where every woman can take care of themselves ''
Yet they still want men to pay for dates and everything else. that is what pisses off men... not the equality... its the downside of it they dont want to accept. Look how no women debates this and simply goes to the white knight cuck post to like it.
Hahahahaha this is perfect
@Jamesol1 I think you're protesting too much. you sound like a bitter, forever alone guy.
thanks for mho!
Because most men at least subconsciously treat women as possession. If women are empowered, then men will have nobody to feel superior over. And to them, considering the sick way they were brought up, it is unacceptable to not be dominant. Huh, that's why men fear confident women, because they effortlessly and indirectly destroy their "menliness" by intimidating them. They cannot be swayed like regular girl can, which takes away the only weapon guys have over regular girls: emotional manipulation. The society has taught men that they have to be powerful, confident, rich... Dominant. So their confidence requires a person (people) the men should compare himself with in order to feel superior. It's usually women who fill in that job. When a girl is confident she is an independent person, she doesn't need to surround herself with people "submissive" to her. That's why men hate confident girls/feminists, because they see them as rivals, as somebody who can defeat them and be more alpha then them. Social humiliation is cancer for guys. I study psychology, I know it.
The best part, though is them denying this. Just watch: they'll prove it to you know. Lol. I will not respond anymore. Because I know the truth and nobody can change my awareness of it. Just let them attack me like pre-school kids. Nothing more fragile than a guy's ego.
They were born physically stronger, (sometimes), wich they took advantage of in the Stone Age and set some "rules" that they don't wanna break because they like 'em and women are too scared to do anything about it because most of them have been brainwashed to believe that they are submissive. Like the virginity shit: a concept created by men to tame women and to secure their deep jealousy that is caused by their insecurity. They have tried to repress women since day 1, too deny their sexual, social, mental needs.
You know what? Idgaf! No man is more dominant than me, I assure you that. They can say whatever they want, those poor girls can still hate feminists who try to help them, but I know for myself: I will live a life the way I want it. Nobody and nothing can stop me.
And girls: it's not MEN who are oppressing you, at least not in the Civilized world in the 21st century. It's YOU who allows them. Peace
@alphadoggystyle Well said
It isn't "men" it's people who can see outside of the feminist bubble.
You are under 18, this is the time feminist love to indoctrinate girls because we are naive and believe without question. (Like believing in patriarchy, rape culture, and wage gap.)
Look up Cristina Hoff Sommers, Lauren Southern, and Cassie Faye. These women (like myself) used to be feminist and now see it for what it really is.
If you want reasons why "people" (not just men) are against feminism. Not threatened or insecure about it, that's a common feminist shaming tactic, here are reasons why you shouldn't be a feminist.
It is NOT about gender equality. Regardless of how many times you are regurgitated the "definition". No group suppresses women more than feminism. If you don't believe me, tell a feminist you disagree with her and see how much she stays willing to listen to you or let's you continue speaking without personal attacks.
Feminism also suppresses all attempts by men to talk about male issues which are real and severe.
It will marginalize male victims of rape and abuse by women.
It supports female false accusers.
It fabricates western issues and uses 3rd world women's actual issues as a scapegoat while not actually caring about helping those issues.
Groups like NOW shut down laws and prevent men from equal parental rights.
Gender equality is NOT a feminist agenda, although they pretend to have the monopoly on it. Do any research outside the feminist echo chamber and you will quickly see how bad feminism's ideology actually is.
If you want to hear a powerful woman who used to be a feminist and are actually interested in knowledge and not just adhering to feminist doctrine. Check out Cassie Faye on why doing the red pill documentary (initially in attempt to shame men's rights) made her stop being a feminist.
Also message me if you truly want conversation about feminism.
confirmed. he has a reputation for trolling on this board.
These kinds of trolls are what make it easy for some to justify the hate towards men. But I have seen these kinds before, and he is either a 14 year old unpopular kid who just wants to shur up shit to feel important, or he is a feminist claiming to be a male to try and prove that men are evil.
Likely the first one in this case.
The video is awesome. But if memory serves me, in this video she says that she is not a Men's Rights Activist as the thumbnail suggests, but she does support rights of both men and women. It wasn't until she tried to challenge the men's rights that she finally understood it as well. And she didn't let the few extremists get to her when trying to understand the goal of the red pill.
I think her reply was well thought out and executed. It made complete sense, and had a very logic base. I'm not sure what "AllAboutTheX" is hating about?
@Triathlete Not sure who you thought I was hating on?
Because when you're privileged, equality feels like oppression. Women demanding respect rather than being agreeable kinda makes life harder for them, see?
The other day my MUCH older coworker was harassing me, asking why I wouldn't go out with him, is he too ugly for me, etc. I was trying to be professional and nice but he wouldn't leave me alone. It was frustrating because, why wasn't my simple "I'm not interested, thanks" not enough for him? Finally I politely told him that he was just too old for me (in reality, that's true but also I just find his personality rather repulsive). So he responded "age difference, huh? We can work around that." And while I'm normally very sweet and soft spoken, I snapped. "No no no. You do NOT get to decide that my reason isn't good enough for you!" I can honestly say that without feminism, I wouldn't have had the knowledge to recognize his bull or the confidence to call it out.
I follow Feminists United on Facebook and it's the truest feminism I could imagine. The admins and all the followers call out sexism and injustice against ANYTHING - women, men, poc, etc. Even in the comments section, everyone stands up for everyone's rights. There's no "female superiority" or whatever.
There's my rant for the day. Have fun.
curious what are your respective ages/
I'm 24 and he's somewhere in his mid 40s.
how did he respond when you snapped
He quietly went "yes I can, because I'm a human being with opinions" or something like that. Then I left and now he doesn't bug me as much (still does a little, but whatever it's a start lol).
this is harassment, report him
I will if it gets out of control again. My coworkers all mess around with each other, so I don't want to be seen as the person with the stick up their butt. But if it gets as bad as last time, where he was following me around my entire shift, I'll definitely tell management.
be careful he seems like a creep. perhaps secretly record him pestering you with your phone as evidence.
You're still getting downvotes a lot by men on here because as I was saying... a lot of men on here are bad with women, so they empathize more with the shitty guy in your story than they do with you. That's the world we live in
@Negrodamuss your original post was spot on, a lot of bitter and insecure guys on this site.
i think men are more so threatened by what they perceive to be a huge number of feminist who aren't actually feminist but are really women who want women to have more power than men
@Harpesian thanks i guess
Yeah lots of guys on here are mistaking feminists for misandrists.
@danyalovettie44 yup. a lot of women (people) call themselves feminist but aren't. this "third wave" feminism and feminazi stuff are all just poseurs.
a feminist. a true feminist is simply about equality
You are absolutely right. From taking an AP U. S. History class at my school, I learned a lot about the feminist movement and it was very different from the "third wave feminism"
I got trolled like eight times on here trying to explain what you just said to a few gaggers
@danyalovettie44 yeah good luck. i've been in plenty of those conversations. i try to steer clear of those conversations with those people since i know it won't usually go anywhere
I think men just don't like when women take it to the extreme and still expect men to play their gender roles when women are not willing to do the same. I don't think the actual idea of feminism is something men dislike or feel threatened by. They just don't like feminist execute it.
I don't think too many men have an issue with gender roles or gender equality. But it's not really equality when you expect men to stay in their lane with gender roles yet women can do whatever they want.
Truth. Kudos sister.
Apparently you have yet to learn that modern day feminism is but just a fart of what it used to be. I'm am all down for equality between all 42132 genders or whatever but what they're fighting for today is not equality.
The radical feminists outnumber, out-yell and outperform the 'normal' ones to the point when you're left with the impression that they're the only kinds of feminist left. The kind that labels office conditioners as patriarchal and sexist.
Men have problems with THAT ''feminism."
Because of the misrepresentation of feminism by actual people claiming to be feminists. Girls who scream equality and then turn around and put men down, expect their meals to be paid for, and constantly victimize themselves.
If feminism were for equality it wouldn't have the word "femin" in it. Egalitarianism is true equality.
@ADFSDF1996 I never denied that. Feminism is a core specific group.
@ADFSDF1996 and by that I mean they focus on specific issues relating to a specific demographic, feminism in its original foundation was intended to create an world where women had equal rights to men, which was interpreted as equal rights overall as they lacked many rights of their own. Denying that is asinine, but if we're talking third wave then yes, their prerogative is messed up but the core values of feminism are not evil - and this is coming from an Egalitarian herself.
You do know original feminism had connections to racism right?
@ADFSDF1996 Yes, but that wasn't because of feminism itself. It was the irrational beliefs of white people during that time period that refused to address the issues of coloured women. It was the time, not the cause.
I still don't think feminism was actually thing, it was biased sinccitconky focused on women's rights, it viewed men as expendable.
*since it only
Sorry for that typo/autocorrect.
@ADFSDF1996 I think you need to do your research dude.
I already did, Egalitarianism predates feminism. If they truly believed in equal rights they should have called themselves egalitarians.
@ADFSDF1996 I'm not talking about the current sense, and even so you have to consider that there are essentially different factions of feminism. Historically speaking feminism was a very positive movement that did a lot for our modern world, and to completely deny that... well, you're not much better than a radical feminist who refuses to see outside of her own biased opinion.
But that's just how I see it.
It was individual women that contributed to the world, not feminism itself. I am taking about the first feminists as well, they should have called themselves Egalitarians and they should have truly believed in equal rights, then probably there wouldn't be feminazis today. Civil rights activists and SJWs aren't the same.
@ADFSDF1996 I can see what you're saying, I'm just very used to dudes who have a poor-sucker attitude who just assume all feminists or women of the feminist movement just hate men and all that jazz, ya know?
you know feminism and equality for men doesn't exist Feminism is a range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social rights for women. This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. So when women say that they want equality for men that's a lie.
and I'm not saying you said it I've just heard other women say it
it maybe equality for the women because you're trying to help out you're own female gender but that does nothing for the equality for the men if a woman wants equality for the men and the women you would have to be an egalitarian period not feminism or a feminist
@CancerianMan81 Well this is how I see it: egalitarianism is overall what I support, but I don't deny the need for core specific groups an organizations. There are places that need FEMINISM, and many Western feminist organizations help support the people in said places. That's like getting mad and saying "You can't support only one type of cancer, you have to support all cancers."
Yes, it sounds better but it's not logical. I overall think everybody should be egalitarian, there should be an egalitarian group and organization to address all gender issues, but I see no harm in there continuing to be REASONABLE feminist organizations in the right places supporting the right causes.
That's why MRAs are needed as well since they actually care about men.
but the problem with that is putting labels on shit
@CancerianMan81 I can see what you mean.
also instead of having women do their part and men do their part is whats driving a wedge between the genders
@CancerianMan81 In fairness there are men in feminists organizations, they are just primarily represented by women - but I don't disagree.
recently I've said this to a woman do you think I give a shit oh but they just can't handle me because of what i say if they can't handle what I say I'd hate to see what it's like if they were out on their own if they can't handle what i say then they can't handle life all that well me I'm not weak minded anymore I've filtered out negativity in my life and I'm not afraid of doing it even more and whenever I see bullshit I'm going to call it out and if people can't handle that then their in for a rude awakening and by the way it's time women start sucking it up I'm not the one with the perceived notion that i want excitement to try and change somebody
another thing that's driving a wedge between both genders is women thinks being in competition with men is a good thing when it's not
@Mrwoo99 and they shouldn't get special privileges for the sake of being a woman cause in the real world you have to work for it but you'll hear most of these women say that what kind of reality you living in and I will go as far as to say in a reality where there ain't no free hand outs
@CancerianMan81 yeah I have a vagina and I was not raised to believe anything was going to be handed to me, gent. I work for a living and have paid for more dates than I have hd dates paid for, for me. So not all women have that shit mentality.
well I know that that's why i said most women and not all women
@CancerianMan81 Maybe I'm just surrounded by awesome women then because literally most of my personal family and friends are the same as me. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying there aren't women like that but at least have some faith in us, shit you two sound like you hate us. Lol.
no I don't hate women I love ya's I really do
@CancerianMan81 I get that there's chicks like that though. www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a31061-4-reasons-why-i-ll-never-date-a-guy-who-doesn-t-pay-for-the-first-date
Invite you to read that take, and my response to it.
just some of the things women do irritate the hell out of me
okay now if I had to pay for our date do i get to have sex with you
@CancerianMan81 I wouldn't let you pay for our first date, I'd insist we split. But if you INSISTED on paying, then no I still would not think it's okay for you to ask for sex. Because I offered to pay my half, and you insisted on paying, therefore the meal is essentially a gift.
Besides sweetheart I am worth more than a meal at a diner, sorry XD I don't fuck dudes I'm not in love with even if you insist on buying me something. Because I don't have the mentality that a guy SHOULD buy me shit and will insist he doesn't have to, but if he really wants to as a nice gesture then that's gift-giving. I have insisted on paying for guy's meals and drinks before too, I didn't expect anything because I OFFERED to pay for it. I would expect the same manners out of him if he absolutely insisted on paying. Potato salad = pussy, especially if you insist on paying when I offer to pay for myself.
I was just giving an example sweetie cause a lot of women would say no you don't get sex if say men have to pay for the first date or if it were 4 or 5 months into the relationship and she would say no you don't get to have sex that to me would be a double standard
and by the way I understand
@CancerianMan81 I see the logic in your theory, but realistically no woman is going to feel that her body is equivalent to a single meal - even though people don't have monetary value. I agree that if a girl expects a guy to pay for everything that she is essentially selling her time, but I still wouldn't go so far as to say if you buy her a steak that you can fuck her immediately either. HOWEVER. If you do buy her dinner I think she absolutely should be paying for your next date as equivalent exchange and she should be showing a lot of gratitude since that's a super nice and unnecessary thing to do.
but how I look at it a woman like that can be left out cause to me that wouldn't be equal at all I mean not saying sex is the answer I was just giving an example
It's not really about equality anymore. The message is lost and it's more about superiority. Most of these so called "feminists" expect men to stay true to their gender roles, while women can do whatever they want. They cry about free meals, manspreading and other issue when they aren't willing to do the same. It just creates more conflict between the sexes when there isn't any need. It has become about female superiority.
Because women can do so much already they don't want to lose anything.
Men have no problem with gender equality or feminism, what men do have a problem with is extreme feminist using feminism as a means of gaining superiority or men. Feminist are all for equal rights except for when they don't benefit from it.
but that isn't feminism
I don't know it seems chill with me. i don't pay much attention to it.
Feminism isn't gender equality, it's biased. It only cares about women's rights and it's misandrist movement. Egalitarianism on the other hand, is gender equality.
maybe this feminist attitude is a complete turn off/deal breaker to them
i support it
Simple answer: we're not threatened by it, we're annoyed with it.
First off, it isn't equality. You want equality? Fine. Same standard across the board for military service. Man needs to run 2 miles in 13 minutes for a 100/100 score? So do you. As it is, when I was in, if I kept up and in fact beat women my age by a few seconds, they could pass with a 100/100 and I would fail.
VERY telling is how ONLY NOW is there any large scale discussion of the end of the draft in mainstream media, AFTER it is suggested that women must register for it. JUST to have the same civil rights as a woman, a man has been compelled to register to go to where he could die in fucking training (one died in my basic training) just to be able to vote, apply for a student loan, I'm not sure what else, drive? Maybe, I just did it because I was told I had to or there were legal consequences.
You want equality? How about no more automatically getting custody of kids in a divorce? My father: eminent scientist. My mother: abusive alcoholic. She had custody until i could provide police with evidence that she bit a piece of the skin of my arm off. 16 years. Her OWN PARENTS spoke against her at the custody hearing. She still got it. You might say, "Oh, but that's anecdotal." You're right. It's also representative of countless other stories from men I know, many with women worse than my own mother, who got the kids.
There used to be a social contract for both sexes. Now, women have completely shirked every aspect of their side of it, while constantly bemoaning the fact that after decades of tolerating it and adhering to their end of the social contract, men are saying fuck that.
We are sick and tired of your shit.
Women can reject a man for not looking like he lives in the gym when they are fat as fuck.
Women reject a guy for his height, publicly mock his penis size, or reject a man for losing his hair, all beyond his control and about as legitimate a reason to denigrate someone as the color of their skin. But if we don't want you because you're fat or have another man's kids, COMPLETELY within your control, we're awful.
Just the fact that a man having sex is referred to as getting lucky speaks fucking volumes about the piss poor fucking attitude of women and the dumb shit ideas inhabiting the feeble minds of their thoroughly cucked male enablers.
Threatened and insecure? Cute attempt at projection. No. We're just don't with tolerating stupid ass fucking cunt bullshit.
Imagine the following: There is a guy who says he is all against violence, etc. - yet is easily brought to las out and punch someone.
Would you still think he is against violence? Or would you judge him by his actions?
The majority of people do the second. They judge the actions of feminism and those actions are vile and hateful - especially by those who are in control of the movement (= those who have media coverage, influence on policies, etc)
And no, this is not a modern occurance. If you read quotes from the 2nd wave feminism (60s) onward there is a whole ton of vile and hateful statements being spewed. To give you a few examples:
“I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.” ~Robin Morgan
“To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo.” ~Valerie Solanas
“I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.” ~Andrea Dworkin
“Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear” ~Susan Brownmiller
“The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men.” ~Sharon Stone
"AIDS education will not get very far until young men are taught how not to rape young women and how to eroticize trust and consent; and until young women are supported in the way they need to be redefining their desires." ~Naomi Wolf
"The nuclear family must be destroyed, and people must find better ways of living together" ~Linda Gordon
Men’s sexuality is mean and violent, and men so powerful that they can ‘reach WITHIN women to fuck/construct us from the inside out.’ Satan-like, men possess women, making their wicked fantasies and desires women’s own. A woman who has sex with a man, therefore, does so against her will, ‘even if she does not feel forced.’" ~Judith Levine
The second issue I have with feminism is that I simply do not think equality is in anyway functional nor desirable. You can read it my opinion here: www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a22687-why-i-don-t-believe-in-equality
Try harder, if you want to troll and steer up people.
its a legitimate question but truth hurts huh bro ;)
my question is legit you can't handle the truth and you seem so defensive.
I am just enjoying your failed attemps to troll. I think you can do better though.
im not trolling but if I were you're not worth the effort. :)
Because no one is threatened by gender equality, they are threatend by rampant gender inequalitys which feminism perpetuates and in fact lobbies for. Your statement is circular, your presume that men are "threatened" by gender equality and now you ask why they are threatened by you never actually considering that their is a very very valid reason to be against it. Your conclusion is your premise. For instance feminist claim women couldn't vote because "sexism" completely ignoring that men couldn't vote either (which would mean that since both parties could not vote this is not descrimination against one particular gender). It ignores that the reason why men got the right to vote first in 1853(a whole 67 years prior to women (on the federal level as many states actually did give women the right to vote) was due to the fact that men had always had greater responsibilities like being conscripted against their will into police posse and the restraining of criminals, bucket brigades as well as recue teams for fire department and of course the most well known one military conscription, all of them dangerous all of them against their will. Women in fact argued against the right to vote specifically because they liked not having to endanger themselves at the demand of the government. So this is a big whole in the narrative told by feminism. It continues from their with the fact that they complain that their is not enough women in politics or CEOs ignoring the fact that this is by choice and that their are also no women working in mines (the statistic is that its 80% male workers but if you actually look at where these women are they are all in managment positions i. e. not doing the dangerous physically grueling labor) or oil rigs, or waste managment and sanitation and police, fire, military (despite them being fully capable of entering), or construction i. e. the hard dangerous jobs. Thats a glaring whole as well. They ignore the fact that women comprise more then 60% of all college graduates while claiming they are some how the ones being oppressed, ignoring that according to the CDC and the NCVS as well as many other organizations both in the US and the UK that show that men are far more likely to be the victims of domestic violence (70% of all nonrecipricol violence between intimate partners is perpetrated by women)
despite the fact that in most places their are next to no shelters or hotlines for men and even laws like the "violence against womens act" which not only do not protect men in these situations but actually make them the one punished even if they are the victim. Thats not even getting into things like the Hermsmann vs. seyer landmark law case that stated no matter the circumstances a woman was entitled to child support (the case was a babysitter who raped a 12 year old boy, she won and he was forced to pay child support to his rapist). It ignores the fact that men have next to no parental rights and no reproductive rights while their are laws that cater specifically to women to the detriment of men even when those men did nothing wrong. Thats why so many people are against feminism, because its sexism, its a hate group that has massive influence and has historically and presently used this influence to harm men to the expressed benefit of its members.
he question isn't why men hate feminism, that should be obvious (its out to hurt them for no justifiable reason) its why do feminist hate men so much? Why do women not ask questions and look to the experiences of their lives and realize that its men who do everything for them, from sacrificing themselves to protect them to sacrificing themselves to provide for them. Why do feminist not want to listen to counter arguments? For the same reasons liars try to silence the truth, it will show them for what they truly are. I would recommend taking a non bias approach and honestly thinking about these issues before fully embracing feminist ideals because they really are nothing more then a hate group. Look up Karen Straughn or Dr. Warren Farrell, is a good start to learn the truth about feminism.
This isn't just a controversial topic on GAG. It's a popular topic in general over the last few years. Although it's generally lumped in with social justice in general.
There is no patriarchy in the west. Let's be real here.
Third wave feminism at it's worst IS cancerous. At it's best its simply not needed.
Women have all the same legal rights as men. In reality, women actually have more rights than men in regards to child custody and divorce issues. You can't actually stop people from thinking misogynistic thoughts or showing favoritism towards men in a non legal sense. That would be thought policing and not only is it impossible to enforce, but even if it were possible, it would be some hardcore 1984-level authoritarian bullshit that would completely ruin society.
This is what feminists aren't understanding. They've already won. They've fixed all the legal issues they had and since we've already established you can't enforce thought policing, nor should you... what is there to really fight for in western society in regards to gender equality?
This is all from a rational standpoint. Beyond that, you then have all sorts of feminazis, women that literally talk about how all men should be dead or castrated, women that argue that women are naturally attracted to other women and that attraction towards men is a social construct, etc.
You have feminists like Anita Sarkeesian lying their asses off and attempting to censor video games and other forms of media. You have many feminists groups attempting to silence conferences and gatherings related to men's issues and other various forms of being completely insensitive to any issues men deal with.
Feminism, much like Black Lives Matter and other forms of social justice don't really want equality. They want some warped form of justice.
I'm a straight white male and all of these groups make their message loud and clear that I'm a privileged piece of shit in their eyes and I should feel guilty for everything and that myself and many others like me will always be the enemy.
This doesn't sit well with me. It doesn't sit well with many others.
I fully believe in all forms of equality. ACTUAL equality. Not whatever it is the SJW/feminist/BLM people think they are aiming for because most of it is incredibly misguided and full of shit.
People in general need to grow thicker skin and accept the fact that THEY need to adjust to society. Society shouldn't be expected to adjust to their special snowflake asses.
An analysis of your question:
[Presupposition] and [something politically neutral to associate and conflate with the presupposition in order to give it a sense of moral authority and mass public support].
List and explain some reasons why [presupposition] and [false equivalent].
Let's plug and play, this should be fun:
Why are women so bad at logical arguments and don't end up pursuing careers in computer science or engineering as much as men?
List and explain some reasons why women are bad at logical arguments and don't end up pursuing careers in computer science or engineering as much as men.
Why are Democrats so gullible, and why do they usually consider themselves liberal or progressive?
List and explain some reasons why Democrats are so gullible, and why they usually consider themselves liberal or progressive.
Why are Republicans misogynistic and racist, and why do so many Republicans watch Fox News?
List and explain why Republicnas are misogynistic and racist, and why so many of them watch Fox News.
Why is the only thing men care about sex, and why is sex important to men anyway?
List and explain some reasons why men only care about just sex, and why sex is important to men anyway.
I can keep going, but hopefully it's transparent at this point what the intentional or perhaps unintentional mistake was in the phrasing of everything about this questions. And of course, it was predictably followed by mostly mindless responses of half awake people typing, "Oh, yeah, let me just first walk into the mouse trap and then give an answer to a question that already presupposes the truth of it's proposition. So, I guess, even before answering the question, everyone sort of agrees that 'feminism' = 'gender equality,' and that men are threatened by it, and the reason they are threatened is because it is destroying the patriarchy."
"Feminism" isn't the same thing as "gender equality." Feminism seeks to give women "more rights" than they currently have, without giving women any more "obligations."
"Gender equality," on the other hand, seeks to ensure that each and every gender has "the same" legal rights "and legal obligations."
Those two things are very different, and the reason people (men and women) feel so polarized against "feminism" is because they can see it for what it is... a "pro-woman" agenda... masquerading as a "equality"
"feminism is cancer and is undermining the patriarchy"
"list and explain some reasons why men are so threatened and insecure about feminism and gender equality in general?"
Sure. But see here, feminism =/= gender equality. Now that this is out let's take a look,
1) Feminism claims gender equality yet, men's issues get a severe minority of the attention. Let's look at the femen outcry... rape. You should probably know that men get raped more than women in the US (thank you prison). Obviously, rape is a bit touchy since it's severely under-reported.
2) The retarded consent laws... if a man is drunk and so is a woman, a drunk woman is unable to give consent so technically, it is rape. Yet, the drunk man shouldn't be able to give consent too? Realistically speaking, you're telling the world that drunk sex is rape. Alright, a lot of people get drunk and have sex no-one thinks of rape... except feminists.
3) Speaking of consent, how much of a battle are feminists giving women who withdraw consent? Meaning, when a woman consents to having sex with a guy only to feel guilty about it later. Are they spreading awareness that withdrawn consent is not rape? Or are they just spreading that drunk sex is rape?
4) Family courts are a disaster for men due to outdated laws. I know this gets brought up a lot but, it is an issue we face as men.
5) The bullocks named "gender wage gap" please explain to me how men don't deserve to be paid more than women considering that the top 5 highest paying majors in upper education are all male dominated except pharmaceuticals while the lowest 5 paying majors are all female dominated except Theology... without mentioning that men are way more likely than women to die in the workforce plus the fact that men work more hours than women.
6) Breast cancer awareness is by far much larger than prostate cancer awareness. Considering that statistically, they're almost identical. Being 1 in 7 men will be diagnosed with prostate cancer while 1 in 8 women will be diagnosed with breast cancer. Breast cancer gets much more funding ($572.6 million vs $285.4 million).
7) Need I mention suicide?
Feminists pushed so far where women are disadvantaged but how about where they're advantaged? That's not equality, that's gender supremacy. A gender supremacy group is in fact a cancer of society. The patriarchy is a stupid concept in which they can blame men without appearing sexist.
Modern feminism what it is is a ruthless grab for power by greedy women with daddy issues. No, we’re not talking about the right to work, vote, or own property—we’re talking about modern feminism (it’s called by many names).
Modern feminism has, and always will be, about giving more power to women and taking power away from men. This takes many forms:
At first, it was economic power—women simply wanted the right to work. Then, it moved onto political power, hence the 19th Amendment to the Constitution. These were both legitimate pursuits, but beyond this, it’s all been a grab for power.
Despite women having a gigantic 3:1 advantage against men in STEM fields (due to gender quotas), the feminist media is STILL clamoring for more laws to be put in place regulating jobs. Women have always had more social power than men, but it’s only become worse with the modern slut-glorification and vanity of women—and how men can’t speak out against it, lest they lose their job.
And don’t even get me started on divorce rape or domestic abuse disputes. Yes, clearly some men are abusive and belong in jail, but there’s a huge amount of evidence showing that men are unfairly treated in these cases, even if a woman simply claims that he did something (despite being his girlfriend for 5 years).
So, it seems that in addition to having more social, economic, and political power than men, they even have more physical power over men by proxy of beta male white knights and police officers. Clearly it’s time for a change.
The massive amount of backlash that I expect this draft to receive will do two things:
●Make women realize that they actually do need men for some things
●Start pushing some feminist supporting men into seeing the hypocrisy of modern feminism
As this potential draft becomes more and more mainstream, it will also become the hot topic for casual banter, and will likely cause some heated debates. There’s no way that every woman in the US won’t know about this come New Year’s Eve.
I believe that this will start to begin the process of unbrainwashing women. Yes, it isn’t a lot, but it’s definitely a huge jump in the right direction. Striking fear into the hearts of women all across the USA will make them realize just how much they appreciate men.
Expect primal masculinity to start making a comeback—as more and more women become terrified, and realize that they actually do need men to protect them, our culture will slowly start to value men more and more.
Particularly, high testosterone men that are capable of fighting, which is just what we need. It seems that sometimes the pendulum has to swing way too far to the left (modern feminism) before it comes back to sanity.
This, combined with Trump’s presidency, will lead to a huge restoration of a society that’s in line with biological differences within the next 8 years.
“Donald Trump stopped the female draft? What? There’s no way he’s sexist, now!”
This pathetic attempt at making a female draft the same as feminism, and riling up women to the point that they’re eager to get drafted, will only give Donald J. Trump a chance to be the savior of every single woman in America.
Imagine it: Breitbart, ROK, Info Wars, and all of the alt-news comes out with a massive headline: “President Trump Vetoes Female Draft!” How could a woman NOT love him for this?
Of course, the mainstream media will likely remain silent on this matter, or somehow try to blame Trump for the bill in the first place, but by this point it won’t even matter—the damage will have been done. Women will have lost their faith in “Daddy Government’s” best intentions, and they will have their faith restored in “Daddy Trump,” as Milo Yiannopoulos calls him.
By the time that Trump is in office, and has the chance to veto this ridiculous bill, the MSM will be even closer to death than it was before. As alternative news sites start gaining more and more political and social influence, expect the news that Trump is responsible for saving women to spread like wildfire.
Even the most die-hard feminist does NOT want to be drafted; she’ll gladly tie her hair up into pig tails, twirl them innocently, and proclaim: “B-but you’re a big strong man! I don’t want them to hurt little old me!”
The elites are too insulated to see this—they don’t realize the massive backlash that this bill will cause, which brings me to my next point about how the media will report it. The media’s predictability is entirely laughable, and yet somehow, they seem to keep doubling down on their crumbling narrative. Expect headlines like the following to be blasted all over the news:
●“Beyoncé supports the female draft!”
●“Feminists fight for their country!”
●“She’s fighting to protect her little girl.”
●“Female brigade prepares to fight against sexist Putin, leader of Russia.”
Regardless, the media hasn’t learned anything from the past six months of trying to stop Donald Trump, so don’t expect them to change anytime soon.
Despite the obvious ridiculousness of what they’ll be proclaiming, you can bet that they’ll run their narrative into the ground.
This will only further bring about their demise, because obviously no woman in her right mind (even a feminist) wants to be drafted. This is the one thing that separates the men from the women: our ability to protect the tribe. As more and more people start seeing how controlled the media is, expect the alt-news to grow even more.
Over the past several years, the media has been going full steam ahead, trying to portray every single man as a rapist. In fact, as others have noted, it’s not uncommon to see posters all over college campuses, saying something like the following:
●“Susie and John had been drinking, and then they had sex. The next day, John was arrested for rape. DON’T LET IT HAPPEN TO YOU!”
●“Susie had a drink, and invited John back to her place. Little did John know, that was rape.”
●“One in four women on this campus has been raped. Stay vigilant!”
Obviously this is complete propaganda, but despite this, it’s been brainwashing young and impressionable college students to buy into the “all men are rapists,” frame. The draft being vetoed, however, will begin the process of lessening this.
I believe that once Donald Trump vetoes the draft (which, I promise you, based off of his values, he will), women will feel a surge of relief, and some of them may start to realize that not all men are, in fact,
... rapists. Some are actually normal guys that are just trying to protect them.
As more and more men start to wake up and realize that feminism is a hypocrisy, and as more and more women start to question their conditioning, I believe that we will begin the process of transitioning us back to a normal, patriarchal society. We’re on the path to victory, boys.
Gender equality and equal opportunity is awesome and I 100% encourage it. But I also tend to think that the way feminism is going about it just isn't the answer.
Basically feminism, in it's attempts at getting rid of the cultural gender roles, are also shaming people for following by their BIOLOGICAL gender roles. They're starting to shame other women for being emotionally expressive, supportive and nurturing. Just as they shame men for being proactive, dominant and action-oriented. In doing this, they destroy what both genders stand for and their places in the world. They operate under the idea that they're trying to encourage the freedom to be yourself, but all they're doing is shaming people **FOR BEING THEMSELVES**.
Many men don't feel like men anymore because they were fist-fed that being masculine equates to being a jerk or a big-head. Yet they look at these masculine women and wonder why those women can be like that but he can't.
Meanwhile, many women are deeply troubled in their lives because they want to be taken care of and able to emotionally invest in a man she trusts. Yet, her friends and family pound it into her to stop being a "weakling" and be a "strong independent woman" and so she feels trapped.
We are threatened or insecure in the slightest when it comes to feminism. We just recognize the fact that gender equality is impossible and will never happen because men are vastly superior to women. We are much stronger both mentally and physically than women are.
And the reason men "complain" about it is because to achieve the so called "equality" we have now in western society, there is a requirement to discriminate against men. Men are the main tax-payers, we do all the hard physical labour and dangerous jobs, we maintain security as the majority of the police force and armies. women simply cannot handle these things, and they also use up so many resources with all the welfare required for them to compete with men, child support and wasted college educations etc. Its not a smart economic decision to devote sources into educating women and prioritizing highly valued positions to them with quotation laws, when you can have a more reliable man doing the same job but better due to mens higher average IQ and longer durability and time as part of the workforce.
Feminism is not sustainable, so you better get prepared to accept in the near future that patriarchy is completely natural and unavoidable.
*We are NOT threatened or insecure in the slightest* when it comes to feminism*
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I for one am all for gender equality. I am calling on all men in the U. S. to help me fix a tremendous inequality immediately.
Men, join me in fighting for gender equality and help our feminist sisters by demanding women be legally obligated to register for the draft immediately.
This great inequality must immediately be tended to.
Now to answer your question. Men are afraid of gender equality because we know that's a loaded term. When feminists talk about gender equality what they really mean is female superiority. Men already know women are afforded privileges men aren't.
My plea to feminists is this: Help me end inequality between the sexes my sisters. In addition to fighting for women being legally mandated to register for the draft help me fight the following other inequalities:
1. Demand women pull out their own chairs, open their own doors, and pay their own way on dates. Men are expected to do these things for themselves, and women should be too. This tyranny can't be allowed to continue.
2. Demand women receive equal punishment under the law for crimes as men do. Help me my sisters in fixing this horrendous inequality. Why wasn't Jodi Arias for one sentenced to death?
3. In divorces where there are more than 1 child and neither the father or mother are drug addicts, prostitutes, or otherwise derelicts, mandate the children be split up 50/50 between the parents. We must fight for equality my sisters.
4. In fires, sinking vessels, and other calimities from now on it should be only children first. Then one man for every one woman getting to safety. It would be inequatible to expect men to sacrifice themselves for women and this must not be tolerated.
5. End alimony now. Women are independent are they not? No reason to leach off your ex husband. Support yourselves equally as men do. Also join with me in ensuring property in a divorce isn't split up 50/50, but equally based on the percentage each spouse made during the marriage.
6. No more affirmative action for women. This is another inequality that must be addressed at once!
Get the point? Things are already more than equal. If you want to know why men are insecure about feminism, these amongst other reasons would be why.
I'll leave you with a lovely quote by feminist Valerie Solanas- "To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he's a machine, a walking dildo."
0k feminists. Here's the part where you leave a comment, then block me so I can't respond. Ready? 3, 2, 1... and go!!!
I agree with everything except part of one and the last one. Whoever asks out someone on the date should pay for it, whether they're male or female. Also holding the door is just manners, I do that for guys lmao.
Also I believe affirmative action needs to be revisited and revised, but not completely done with. I recently talked to a guy on here who won't hire single mothers or any woman within child bearing years. There is still a need for some type of way to make that equal. Women can't take care of themselves if there's no way for them to make money.
There still is the wage gap and people like that man who won't hire women just because their gender. Things are not completely equal as you think.
That's no excuse for women to demand more from men, but we need true equality if you want the feminists to shut up.
@juniorsrosie Fair enough. I wrote this obviously to A. Piss off feminists as much as possible as I do in fact hate feminists. I find them to be odious and deplorable cu*ts.
B. Whenever feminists are faced with facts, they always resort to retoric which is a common tactic when one has been intellectually bested. They always spout some kind of retarded phrase like "read the definition of feminism". Which is always defined as "the belief in equality between the sexes." I wanted to show them what true equality looks like, and that it doesn't exist now, because things are already way more than equal.
No I understand. I'm for equality, but right now things aren't equal as you know. Some things are tipped in women's favor, some in men's.
Tbh the only thing that pissed me off was how you repeated "My sisters" a bunch. I don't know why.
@juniorsrosie As far as holding doors open or paying for dates, I have no objection. As for women being drafted I'm actucally firmly against it as I am women serving in any combat roll. I just love seeing the dumb ass look on the faces of feminists and corresponding comments when they realize that equality would also mean fighting and dying and being wounded in combat the same as men who didn't volunteer. I also like to see if the gears are turning and they realize that maybe total equality isn't such a good thing and they should knock off the BS about "fighting for equality". Sadly, I've yet to see one even come to the realization that women are afforded privileges that men aren't.
@juniorsrosie As for the employer you talked to... I can apoerciate where he's coming from. I'd assume he's most likely an entrapenur. I'd assume when he hires someone he's expecting them to be there Day in and day out, as he hired someone because he needs the help, vs having his employee inform him she's pregnant and is going to miss 6-9months of work. Now what? He can't fire or lay her off, and who's willing to take a temp position for 6-9months? Probably very few. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it's understandable why he doesn't hire females of child bearing age.
I think women should serve if they have the same physical capacity as a man who is serving.
Just like how women can apply for the Air Force Academy, they should have to fit the physical requirements to serve. Just like men.
And I can understand his pov. But then don't go around and say that women have equal opportunities in the work force as men. Because you clearly know they don't.
That also ties back to the alimony. I don't agree with exes having to pay a dime if the woman can support herself. But in the case of a single mother, who can't get a job because people like that man won't hire her, alimony and child support are necessary.
If I expect men to die for my country I will as well. I'm not one of the females who doesn't know the reality of what they're asking when they ask for equality.
Also a lot of times child support won't cover the cost of living. And the mother needs to be able to stay afloat to support the child. That's why I brought up alimony along with child support in that case.
But it seems almost funny that guys will say women have equal opportunities and question why they can't support themselves. But then agree or understand why nobody will hire them if they're within child bearing years?
How are they supposed to support themselves without a job? That is not equal. That is discrimination by gender. It has logical reasoning, but it is still inequality.
Opinion owner. You really don't understand do you?
@juniorsrosie Hey by their definition, I'm a feminist. Nothing I said that wouldn't fit into their BS definition of equality, so since I'm in favor of equality, by their definition that makes me a feminist. Lol. That's why I said my sisters. I am one in spirit with them as far as equality goes.
@Djaaaay What is it you think I'm not understanding?
@juniorsrosie So, why would that be her ex husbands problem? Why should he support her?
What you commented on the pink side !
And by the way , equality is (NOT ). the agenda of feminism
Because she has his kid? Like I stated in the comment and even clarified in another comment?
You realize the whole reason that even became a thing was because women were typically staying at home with the kids to be a house wife, with no job, and when he divorced her she kinda can't find a job right away because assholes who won't hire her because she's female.
I literally already stated why in previous comments. either you didn't read it or understand it.
We have to transition to change. It can't just happen right away.
And you're not going to get anywhere if you try to piss people off like you stated you were trying to do in your original comment. Nobody will take you seriously.
@Djaaaay Not sure what comment you're referring to. Did you read my entire comment or just the first few lines.
@juniorsrosie Sure, and in 1945 I agree with the idea of alimony, when most women were housewives with little to no work experience or training. Today, kid or not, no way.
But how are they supposed to get work experiences if people won't hire them because they're in "Child bearing years" or a single mother?
Entry level jobs won't pay for a kid and her to survive.
There is still discrimination in the workforce, which you admitted. There is still a need for some form of affirmative action, preferably a version we revise. And there's also a need for feminism where things are actually equal, not turned in one genders favor.
Until that happens then women need some way to be supported since some men make the mistake of not hiring them based on gender
@juniorsrosie Don't really care if anyone takes me seriously. Feminism is a cancer. Those that propigate it are delusional. They hate men. Period. Anyone who actively solicits government and uses it as a tool to oppress me and my sex can rot in hell for all I care. Yes, I want to piss them off. It's the least I can do as there is no way anything is going to actucally change the damage feminism has done, nor is any politician going to even so much as seek to correct the mass oppression of males in this country. If pissing them off is the best that will likely ever happen, I'll take it.
I read everything as I usually do without comprehensive problems. The comment about ( Great answer ) !! I do understand your point and I agree with some of your opinion. But I've got to tell you that , feminism has nothing to do with equality. This is what they hide behind
@juniorsrosie as for affirmative action, I understand your point. I'm still wholly against affirmative action for women. Affermative action is nothing but reverse descrimination. No one should be granted work solely based on their sex, or race. Employment should be granted solely on the basis of who is best qualified. I think employees should be able to discriminate who they hire and don't based on other chriteria which they currently have legal right to do. For example criminal record.
But employers are discriminating on gender.
That is not something we could help, a criminal record is
As I previously explained employers are discriminating against women when they're choosing jobs just because she's a women. Not because she's less qualified
@juniorsrosie Also child support and alimony are 2 different things. I firmly believe a man should be financially obligated to all his chidren. I also think that child support should be figured not off a percentage of the fathers earnings, but how much does the child require to meet their needs. Needs being food, clothing, medical, school supplies. NOT shelter. If mommy can't provide shelter for the children, then the children can go live with dad, unless the courts have found him unfit. In that case he can pay for shelter too.
Alimony I'm wholly against. I don't care how tough a time mommy is having. Alimony as near as I can figure it is payment for previous use of ones vagina. Children need support, not mommy. Mommy can get herself a job and pay her own way in the world.
HOW IS SHE SUPPOSED TO GET A JOB IF PLACES WON'T HIRE HER BECAUSE SHE'S A SINGLE MOTHER AND WITHIN CHILD BEARING YEARS?
I put that in all caps because you seem to be ignoring that question.
Children do need their mother. Just as much as they need their father.
How about this situation. A wife isn't working because husband doesn't want her to. She's staying at home to take care of kids because someone has to. Husband divorces her. She's left on the streets with not job. She can't magically poof up a job because no place will hire her because, guess what? She's a single mom.
How is she supposed to survive? That is screwing over the mom in favor of the dad. Weren't you about things being equal?
Also child support isn't enough to cover the cost of living. I think I would understand that as the child of a divorced couple.
Oh and don't even suggest an entry level job. The paycheck with that isn't enough to support one person. Let alone two.
Also how is she supposed to get a job without any experience, since she was at home taking care of the kids while her husband was out?
This is a very real situation. Your solution to just toss the woman out on the streets because she was home caring for the children and unable to have a job is just compassionless. There's a reason more women are attempting to work and raise kids now. But it's people like that guy who won't hire them that hinder them. Also the fact that this is a transition stage to where women can stand on their own.
You can't throw people with no jobs out on the street. Especially if they're prevented from getting jobs by something they can't help
@juniorsrosie Not hiring someone because their a single mom is as far as I know illegal. If one has been discriminated against in such a way, they can hire a lawyer, or if they can't afford a lawyer, go to legal aid or another organization for help. If found guilty, then the employer will have to pay a fine + restitution or a fine + jail time+ restitution to the guilty party.
Children do need their mom as much as their dad, I agree. However if mom can't afford to take care of her children (I. e. Provide them food ect) then she should seek gainful employment so she can. In the meantime, the children can live with the father.
It's not the ex husbands job to financially support his ex wife kids or not. It is his duty to provide for his children, not his ex wife.
But you want affirmative action to be abolished. That is what makes that illegal. What are they supposed to do if affirmative action, or any law that replaces it, does not exist?
And so the wife should lose her kids because the husband has been restricting her from having a job? Or just because they divorced, which might not have even been her fault?
How is that any more fair than a wife getting the kids just because she female?
@juniorsrosie In your scenario, mom chose of her own volition to be a house wife no? It's no secret 50% or more of marriages end in divorce. Perhaps she should have chosen a different path. For example. Husband provided 100% of the income during the marriage. The wife did 100% of the domestic work. Why is she entitled to money after the divorce? Because she's in a tough spot? Too bad, so sad. No adult is another adults responsibility. She chose to be a housewife knowing full well the marriage could end one day. I'm pretty sure it's not too hard to get a job at say... Burger King, so why is she the husbands financial responsibility? She shouldn't be. The ex wife's difficulty in life is NOT her ex husbands problem nor should it be his responsibility to fix it.
Then perhaps the husband should've reconsidered marrying someone if he wasn't ready to pay alimony. I mean, 50% of marriages end in divorce right?
He chose to marry her and knew what would come out of divorce. Why should we feel sorry for him when he chose to give up half his paycheck to her?
Too bad, so sad
DUDE I LITERALLY ALREADY TOLD YOU DON'T EVEN MENTION ENTRY LEVEL JOBS. Sorry for all caps, but apparently you didn't read that in the first place.
Burger King is an entry level job. THAT IS NOT ENOUGH TO SUPPORT ONE PERSON.
I've literally mentioned twice not to mention entry level jobs for that reason. That is not a good excuse. Please actually read my comments if we're having a discussion
13 minutes ago I said
"Oh and don't even suggest an entry level job. The paycheck with that isn't enough to support one person. Let alone two.
Also how is she supposed to get a job without any experience, since she was at home taking care of the kids while her husband was out?
This is a very real situation. Your solution to just toss the woman out on the streets because she was home caring for the children and unable to have a job is just compassionless. There's a reason more women are attempting to work and raise kids now. But it's people like that guy who won't hire them that hinder them. Also the fact that this is a transition stage to where women can stand on their own.
You can't throw people with no jobs out on the street. Especially if they're prevented from getting jobs by something they can't help"
@juniorsrosie I'll give you an example from my own marriage. My wife decided to do drugs, specifically heroin. In the process she also decieded to start hooking up with her drug dealer. She also refused to end the affair. I divorced her. As a result of her drug use, she was evicted from our old apartment, her car was repossessed, and she lost her job. Please give me one good reason why she deserves 1 red cent of my hard earned money. She's currently homeless I might add.
Reread my comments because I already answered that for you.
Hint the answer is I don't think she deserves it. But again, read my comments to find out why. Because I am not retyping everything out for you just so you can not read it.
And not everyone is a whore who cheats and blows money on drugs. That was bad what she did to you. But the females who are thrown out on the street don't deserve your cold treatment just because you've been scorned.
Also just like how you're saying women should know better than to not get a job while married since "50% of marriages end in divorce" I could say the same about you.
You should've known the type of women you were marrying. Oh she changed? Well then. 50% of marriages end in divorce so you should've predicted it am I right?
@juniorsrosie Now, we had no children, but suppose we did. Should a junkie get custody of the children? Should I have pay her money for her poor life choices? Suppose she was a house wife who had an affair but no drug use. Again, should I have to give her money, kids or not. The marriage would be ending because of her infidelity.
This is another evil feminism has brought about. The no fault divorce. No ex husband should be mandated to pay his ex wife alimony for any reason. Regardless of her difficulties in life after the the divorce, children or not.
Child support, yes, alimony, NO.
Again, reread what I said. I literally have already addressed everything you're bringing up.
I had agreed with you that someone shouldn't get a child based on gender. But why did you marry a junkie in the first place?
You're judging women for their poor choices when you've made the same ones, in a different scenario
@juniorsrosie Obviously she wasn't a junkie when I married her. That started 6 years into our marriage.
@juniorsrosie Negative ghost rider. My scenario is totally different.
But I mean, there was a percentage chance she would get involved with drugs. Knowing that, why did you marry her?
Compared to- Oh there's a percentage chance that you'll get a divorce, why do you marry them?
You didn't know she was going to be a junkie. And the wives didn't know they'd get a divorce.
you don't plan for things you don't think are going to happen. And if the wives are at fault, so are you in your situation
@juniorsrosie Not a good parallel. There are statistics that say 50% or more marriages end in divorce. No well known statistics your spouse will become a junkie. Not something I considered.
@juniorsrosie No, no, no. I understand your logic, but it's wrong. Consequently I had a prenup which stated no alimony. I don't have to pay her a dime of alimony, but suppose I didn't have that.
One could reasonably assume their marriage will end in divorce, one can't reasonably assume it will end in divorce because their spouse becomes a junkie.
Yes actually they can since over 50% have tried drugs. You should've known better if you think women should've
@juniorsrosie This is also why I don't think guys should get married without a prenup. Guys stand to gain nothing if the marriage ends in divorce, women stand to gain everything. The solution is simple. No prenup, no marriage. Would you go sky diving if I told you only 50% chance the parashoot will open? Why would a guy marry with no prenup then? Dumb move to do so.
Why anyone would marry without a prenup is beyond me. Now judges are even throwing out prenups if they deem them unfair. Unfair LMAO. Like the ex husband put a gun to her head and forced her to sign it. Thank you feminism and woman's victim status for that.
@juniorsrosie Girl please. Drugs as in pot or Heroin and other hard drugs. No way is hard drug expirmentation is close to 50%.
Try all you want, there's no way I'm going to agree any person should ever get alimony PEROID. I know you like the idea of making a man pay you vaginamony and be responsible for your poor financial situations, but despite what a judge says or doesn't it isn't your ex husbands job to financially support you. You obviously think your entitled to his money. This is exactly way men are marrying in lesser rates than any previous time in history. Because guys are smartening up and deciding not to sign a contract (get married) giving the state the authority to destroy our lives. You should also be ashamed of yourself. If you think as an adult it's your ex husbands duty to pay your way in the world for any reason you're part of the problem. That's tyranny and you might as well go join the sisterhood with that mentality.
Maybe you should've "smartened" up and never gotten married in the first place.
It's your fault you got into that situation and your wife got into that shit. You should've known better since 50% of marriages end in divorce.
I'm sorry you're so bitter towards women. But since you'll never make an impact on the world it doesn't matter anyway
Also pot isn't a hard drug. There's a reason it's close to being legalized.
I agree with the large majority of what you said but I'll add my changes in brackets:
"Men already know women are afforded privileges [that] men aren't.
"3. In divorces where there are more than 1 child and neither the father or mother are drug addicts, prostitutes, [abusive] or otherwise derelicts, mandate the children be split up 50/50 between the parents."
Otherwise, everything else you said was well said.