I for one am all for gender equality. I am calling on all men in the U. S. to help me fix a tremendous inequality immediately.
Men, join me in fighting for gender equality and help our feminist sisters by demanding women be legally obligated to register for the draft immediately.
This great inequality must immediately be tended to.
Now to answer your question. Men are afraid of gender equality because we know that's a loaded term. When feminists talk about gender equality what they really mean is female superiority. Men already know women are afforded privileges men aren't.
My plea to feminists is this: Help me end inequality between the sexes my sisters. In addition to fighting for women being legally mandated to register for the draft help me fight the following other inequalities:
1. Demand women pull out their own chairs, open their own doors, and pay their own way on dates. Men are expected to do these things for themselves, and women should be too. This tyranny can't be allowed to continue.
2. Demand women receive equal punishment under the law for crimes as men do. Help me my sisters in fixing this horrendous inequality. Why wasn't Jodi Arias for one sentenced to death?
3. In divorces where there are more than 1 child and neither the father or mother are drug addicts, prostitutes, or otherwise derelicts, mandate the children be split up 50/50 between the parents. We must fight for equality my sisters.
4. In fires, sinking vessels, and other calimities from now on it should be only children first. Then one man for every one woman getting to safety. It would be inequatible to expect men to sacrifice themselves for women and this must not be tolerated.
5. End alimony now. Women are independent are they not? No reason to leach off your ex husband. Support yourselves equally as men do. Also join with me in ensuring property in a divorce isn't split up 50/50, but equally based on the percentage each spouse made during the marriage.
6. No more affirmative action for women. This is another inequality that must be addressed at once!
Get the point? Things are already more than equal. If you want to know why men are insecure about feminism, these amongst other reasons would be why.
I'll leave you with a lovely quote by feminist Valerie Solanas- "To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he's a machine, a walking dildo."
0k feminists. Here's the part where you leave a comment, then block me so I can't respond. Ready? 3, 2, 1... and go!!!
its because a lot of guys on here are incredibly insecure. Really. Just look at the kinds of questions/myTakes guys are constantly writing on here. Feminism is threatening, because a lot of the guys can barely compete with the way things are now... let alone in a future where every woman can take care of themselves and don't need their help lol.
Because most men at least subconsciously treat women as possession. If women are empowered, then men will have nobody to feel superior over. And to them, considering the sick way they were brought up, it is unacceptable to not be dominant. Huh, that's why men fear confident women, because they effortlessly and indirectly destroy their "menliness" by intimidating them. They cannot be swayed like regular girl can, which takes away the only weapon guys have over regular girls: emotional manipulation. The society has taught men that they have to be powerful, confident, rich... Dominant. So their confidence requires a person (people) the men should compare himself with in order to feel superior. It's usually women who fill in that job. When a girl is confident she is an independent person, she doesn't need to surround herself with people "submissive" to her. That's why men hate confident girls/feminists, because they see them as rivals, as somebody who can defeat them and be more alpha then them. Social humiliation is cancer for guys. I study psychology, I know it.
The best part, though is them denying this. Just watch: they'll prove it to you know. Lol. I will not respond anymore. Because I know the truth and nobody can change my awareness of it. Just let them attack me like pre-school kids. Nothing more fragile than a guy's ego.
They were born physically stronger, (sometimes), wich they took advantage of in the Stone Age and set some "rules" that they don't wanna break because they like 'em and women are too scared to do anything about it because most of them have been brainwashed to believe that they are submissive. Like the virginity shit: a concept created by men to tame women and to secure their deep jealousy that is caused by their insecurity. They have tried to repress women since day 1, too deny their sexual, social, mental needs.
You know what? Idgaf! No man is more dominant than me, I assure you that. They can say whatever they want, those poor girls can still hate feminists who try to help them, but I know for myself: I will live a life the way I want it. Nobody and nothing can stop me.
And girls: it's not MEN who are oppressing you, at least not in the Civilized world in the 21st century. It's YOU who allows them. Peace
It isn't "men" it's people who can see outside of the feminist bubble.
You are under 18, this is the time feminist love to indoctrinate girls because we are naive and believe without question. (Like believing in patriarchy, rape culture, and wage gap.)
Look up Cristina Hoff Sommers, Lauren Southern, and Cassie Faye. These women (like myself) used to be feminist and now see it for what it really is.
If you want reasons why "people" (not just men) are against feminism. Not threatened or insecure about it, that's a common feminist shaming tactic, here are reasons why you shouldn't be a feminist.
It is NOT about gender equality. Regardless of how many times you are regurgitated the "definition". No group suppresses women more than feminism. If you don't believe me, tell a feminist you disagree with her and see how much she stays willing to listen to you or let's you continue speaking without personal attacks.
Feminism also suppresses all attempts by men to talk about male issues which are real and severe.
It will marginalize male victims of rape and abuse by women.
It supports female false accusers.
It fabricates western issues and uses 3rd world women's actual issues as a scapegoat while not actually caring about helping those issues.
Groups like NOW shut down laws and prevent men from equal parental rights.
Gender equality is NOT a feminist agenda, although they pretend to have the monopoly on it. Do any research outside the feminist echo chamber and you will quickly see how bad feminism's ideology actually is.
If you want to hear a powerful woman who used to be a feminist and are actually interested in knowledge and not just adhering to feminist doctrine. Check out Cassie Faye on why doing the red pill documentary (initially in attempt to shame men's rights) made her stop being a feminist.
Also message me if you truly want conversation about feminism.
Because when you're privileged, equality feels like oppression. Women demanding respect rather than being agreeable kinda makes life harder for them, see?
The other day my MUCH older coworker was harassing me, asking why I wouldn't go out with him, is he too ugly for me, etc. I was trying to be professional and nice but he wouldn't leave me alone. It was frustrating because, why wasn't my simple "I'm not interested, thanks" not enough for him? Finally I politely told him that he was just too old for me (in reality, that's true but also I just find his personality rather repulsive). So he responded "age difference, huh? We can work around that." And while I'm normally very sweet and soft spoken, I snapped. "No no no. You do NOT get to decide that my reason isn't good enough for you!" I can honestly say that without feminism, I wouldn't have had the knowledge to recognize his bull or the confidence to call it out.
I follow Feminists United on Facebook and it's the truest feminism I could imagine. The admins and all the followers call out sexism and injustice against ANYTHING - women, men, poc, etc. Even in the comments section, everyone stands up for everyone's rights. There's no "female superiority" or whatever.
There's my rant for the day. Have fun.
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i think men are more so threatened by what they perceive to be a huge number of feminist who aren't actually feminist but are really women who want women to have more power than men
I think men just don't like when women take it to the extreme and still expect men to play their gender roles when women are not willing to do the same. I don't think the actual idea of feminism is something men dislike or feel threatened by. They just don't like feminist execute it.
I don't think too many men have an issue with gender roles or gender equality. But it's not really equality when you expect men to stay in their lane with gender roles yet women can do whatever they want.
Apparently you have yet to learn that modern day feminism is but just a fart of what it used to be. I'm am all down for equality between all 42132 genders or whatever but what they're fighting for today is not equality.
The radical feminists outnumber, out-yell and outperform the 'normal' ones to the point when you're left with the impression that they're the only kinds of feminist left. The kind that labels office conditioners as patriarchal and sexist.
Men have problems with THAT ''feminism."
Because of the misrepresentation of feminism by actual people claiming to be feminists. Girls who scream equality and then turn around and put men down, expect their meals to be paid for, and constantly victimize themselves.
It's not really about equality anymore. The message is lost and it's more about superiority. Most of these so called "feminists" expect men to stay true to their gender roles, while women can do whatever they want. They cry about free meals, manspreading and other issue when they aren't willing to do the same. It just creates more conflict between the sexes when there isn't any need. It has become about female superiority.
Because women can do so much already they don't want to lose anything.
Men have no problem with gender equality or feminism, what men do have a problem with is extreme feminist using feminism as a means of gaining superiority or men. Feminist are all for equal rights except for when they don't benefit from it.
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I don't know it seems chill with me. i don't pay much attention to it.
Feminism isn't gender equality, it's biased. It only cares about women's rights and it's misandrist movement. Egalitarianism on the other hand, is gender equality.
maybe this feminist attitude is a complete turn off/deal breaker to them
are we?
i support it
Simple answer: we're not threatened by it, we're annoyed with it.
First off, it isn't equality. You want equality? Fine. Same standard across the board for military service. Man needs to run 2 miles in 13 minutes for a 100/100 score? So do you. As it is, when I was in, if I kept up and in fact beat women my age by a few seconds, they could pass with a 100/100 and I would fail.
VERY telling is how ONLY NOW is there any large scale discussion of the end of the draft in mainstream media, AFTER it is suggested that women must register for it. JUST to have the same civil rights as a woman, a man has been compelled to register to go to where he could die in fucking training (one died in my basic training) just to be able to vote, apply for a student loan, I'm not sure what else, drive? Maybe, I just did it because I was told I had to or there were legal consequences.
You want equality? How about no more automatically getting custody of kids in a divorce? My father: eminent scientist. My mother: abusive alcoholic. She had custody until i could provide police with evidence that she bit a piece of the skin of my arm off. 16 years. Her OWN PARENTS spoke against her at the custody hearing. She still got it. You might say, "Oh, but that's anecdotal." You're right. It's also representative of countless other stories from men I know, many with women worse than my own mother, who got the kids.
There used to be a social contract for both sexes. Now, women have completely shirked every aspect of their side of it, while constantly bemoaning the fact that after decades of tolerating it and adhering to their end of the social contract, men are saying fuck that.
We are sick and tired of your shit.
Women can reject a man for not looking like he lives in the gym when they are fat as fuck.
Women reject a guy for his height, publicly mock his penis size, or reject a man for losing his hair, all beyond his control and about as legitimate a reason to denigrate someone as the color of their skin. But if we don't want you because you're fat or have another man's kids, COMPLETELY within your control, we're awful.
Just the fact that a man having sex is referred to as getting lucky speaks fucking volumes about the piss poor fucking attitude of women and the dumb shit ideas inhabiting the feeble minds of their thoroughly cucked male enablers.
Threatened and insecure? Cute attempt at projection. No. We're just don't with tolerating stupid ass fucking cunt bullshit.
Imagine the following: There is a guy who says he is all against violence, etc. - yet is easily brought to las out and punch someone.
Would you still think he is against violence? Or would you judge him by his actions?
The majority of people do the second. They judge the actions of feminism and those actions are vile and hateful - especially by those who are in control of the movement (= those who have media coverage, influence on policies, etc)
And no, this is not a modern occurance. If you read quotes from the 2nd wave feminism (60s) onward there is a whole ton of vile and hateful statements being spewed. To give you a few examples:
“I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.” ~Robin Morgan
“To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo.” ~Valerie Solanas
“I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.” ~Andrea Dworkin
“Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear” ~Susan Brownmiller
“The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men.” ~Sharon Stone
"AIDS education will not get very far until young men are taught how not to rape young women and how to eroticize trust and consent; and until young women are supported in the way they need to be redefining their desires." ~Naomi Wolf
"The nuclear family must be destroyed, and people must find better ways of living together" ~Linda Gordon
Men’s sexuality is mean and violent, and men so powerful that they can ‘reach WITHIN women to fuck/construct us from the inside out.’ Satan-like, men possess women, making their wicked fantasies and desires women’s own. A woman who has sex with a man, therefore, does so against her will, ‘even if she does not feel forced.’" ~Judith Levine
The second issue I have with feminism is that I simply do not think equality is in anyway functional nor desirable. You can read it my opinion here: www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a22687-why-i-don-t-believe-in-equality
Because no one is threatened by gender equality, they are threatend by rampant gender inequalitys which feminism perpetuates and in fact lobbies for. Your statement is circular, your presume that men are "threatened" by gender equality and now you ask why they are threatened by you never actually considering that their is a very very valid reason to be against it. Your conclusion is your premise. For instance feminist claim women couldn't vote because "sexism" completely ignoring that men couldn't vote either (which would mean that since both parties could not vote this is not descrimination against one particular gender). It ignores that the reason why men got the right to vote first in 1853(a whole 67 years prior to women (on the federal level as many states actually did give women the right to vote) was due to the fact that men had always had greater responsibilities like being conscripted against their will into police posse and the restraining of criminals, bucket brigades as well as recue teams for fire department and of course the most well known one military conscription, all of them dangerous all of them against their will. Women in fact argued against the right to vote specifically because they liked not having to endanger themselves at the demand of the government. So this is a big whole in the narrative told by feminism. It continues from their with the fact that they complain that their is not enough women in politics or CEOs ignoring the fact that this is by choice and that their are also no women working in mines (the statistic is that its 80% male workers but if you actually look at where these women are they are all in managment positions i. e. not doing the dangerous physically grueling labor) or oil rigs, or waste managment and sanitation and police, fire, military (despite them being fully capable of entering), or construction i. e. the hard dangerous jobs. Thats a glaring whole as well. They ignore the fact that women comprise more then 60% of all college graduates while claiming they are some how the ones being oppressed, ignoring that according to the CDC and the NCVS as well as many other organizations both in the US and the UK that show that men are far more likely to be the victims of domestic violence (70% of all nonrecipricol violence between intimate partners is perpetrated by women)
This isn't just a controversial topic on GAG. It's a popular topic in general over the last few years. Although it's generally lumped in with social justice in general.
There is no patriarchy in the west. Let's be real here.
Third wave feminism at it's worst IS cancerous. At it's best its simply not needed.
Women have all the same legal rights as men. In reality, women actually have more rights than men in regards to child custody and divorce issues. You can't actually stop people from thinking misogynistic thoughts or showing favoritism towards men in a non legal sense. That would be thought policing and not only is it impossible to enforce, but even if it were possible, it would be some hardcore 1984-level authoritarian bullshit that would completely ruin society.
This is what feminists aren't understanding. They've already won. They've fixed all the legal issues they had and since we've already established you can't enforce thought policing, nor should you... what is there to really fight for in western society in regards to gender equality?
This is all from a rational standpoint. Beyond that, you then have all sorts of feminazis, women that literally talk about how all men should be dead or castrated, women that argue that women are naturally attracted to other women and that attraction towards men is a social construct, etc.
You have feminists like Anita Sarkeesian lying their asses off and attempting to censor video games and other forms of media. You have many feminists groups attempting to silence conferences and gatherings related to men's issues and other various forms of being completely insensitive to any issues men deal with.
Feminism, much like Black Lives Matter and other forms of social justice don't really want equality. They want some warped form of justice.
I'm a straight white male and all of these groups make their message loud and clear that I'm a privileged piece of shit in their eyes and I should feel guilty for everything and that myself and many others like me will always be the enemy.
This doesn't sit well with me. It doesn't sit well with many others.
I fully believe in all forms of equality. ACTUAL equality. Not whatever it is the SJW/feminist/BLM people think they are aiming for because most of it is incredibly misguided and full of shit.
People in general need to grow thicker skin and accept the fact that THEY need to adjust to society. Society shouldn't be expected to adjust to their special snowflake asses.
An analysis of your question:
[Presupposition] and [something politically neutral to associate and conflate with the presupposition in order to give it a sense of moral authority and mass public support].
List and explain some reasons why [presupposition] and [false equivalent].
Let's plug and play, this should be fun:
Why are women so bad at logical arguments and don't end up pursuing careers in computer science or engineering as much as men?
List and explain some reasons why women are bad at logical arguments and don't end up pursuing careers in computer science or engineering as much as men.
Why are Democrats so gullible, and why do they usually consider themselves liberal or progressive?
List and explain some reasons why Democrats are so gullible, and why they usually consider themselves liberal or progressive.
Why are Republicans misogynistic and racist, and why do so many Republicans watch Fox News?
List and explain why Republicnas are misogynistic and racist, and why so many of them watch Fox News.
Why is the only thing men care about sex, and why is sex important to men anyway?
List and explain some reasons why men only care about just sex, and why sex is important to men anyway.
I can keep going, but hopefully it's transparent at this point what the intentional or perhaps unintentional mistake was in the phrasing of everything about this questions. And of course, it was predictably followed by mostly mindless responses of half awake people typing, "Oh, yeah, let me just first walk into the mouse trap and then give an answer to a question that already presupposes the truth of it's proposition. So, I guess, even before answering the question, everyone sort of agrees that 'feminism' = 'gender equality,' and that men are threatened by it, and the reason they are threatened is because it is destroying the patriarchy."
"Feminism" isn't the same thing as "gender equality." Feminism seeks to give women "more rights" than they currently have, without giving women any more "obligations."
"Gender equality," on the other hand, seeks to ensure that each and every gender has "the same" legal rights "and legal obligations."
Those two things are very different, and the reason people (men and women) feel so polarized against "feminism" is because they can see it for what it is... a "pro-woman" agenda... masquerading as a "equality"
"feminism is cancer and is undermining the patriarchy"
Yes.
"list and explain some reasons why men are so threatened and insecure about feminism and gender equality in general?"
Sure. But see here, feminism =/= gender equality. Now that this is out let's take a look,
1) Feminism claims gender equality yet, men's issues get a severe minority of the attention. Let's look at the femen outcry... rape. You should probably know that men get raped more than women in the US (thank you prison). Obviously, rape is a bit touchy since it's severely under-reported.
2) The retarded consent laws... if a man is drunk and so is a woman, a drunk woman is unable to give consent so technically, it is rape. Yet, the drunk man shouldn't be able to give consent too? Realistically speaking, you're telling the world that drunk sex is rape. Alright, a lot of people get drunk and have sex no-one thinks of rape... except feminists.
3) Speaking of consent, how much of a battle are feminists giving women who withdraw consent? Meaning, when a woman consents to having sex with a guy only to feel guilty about it later. Are they spreading awareness that withdrawn consent is not rape? Or are they just spreading that drunk sex is rape?
4) Family courts are a disaster for men due to outdated laws. I know this gets brought up a lot but, it is an issue we face as men.
5) The bullocks named "gender wage gap" please explain to me how men don't deserve to be paid more than women considering that the top 5 highest paying majors in upper education are all male dominated except pharmaceuticals while the lowest 5 paying majors are all female dominated except Theology... without mentioning that men are way more likely than women to die in the workforce plus the fact that men work more hours than women.
6) Breast cancer awareness is by far much larger than prostate cancer awareness. Considering that statistically, they're almost identical. Being 1 in 7 men will be diagnosed with prostate cancer while 1 in 8 women will be diagnosed with breast cancer. Breast cancer gets much more funding ($572.6 million vs $285.4 million).
7) Need I mention suicide?
Feminists pushed so far where women are disadvantaged but how about where they're advantaged? That's not equality, that's gender supremacy. A gender supremacy group is in fact a cancer of society. The patriarchy is a stupid concept in which they can blame men without appearing sexist.
Modern feminism what it is is a ruthless grab for power by greedy women with daddy issues. No, we’re not talking about the right to work, vote, or own property—we’re talking about modern feminism (it’s called by many names).
Modern feminism has, and always will be, about giving more power to women and taking power away from men. This takes many forms:
●Economic power
●Social power
●Political power
●Physical power
At first, it was economic power—women simply wanted the right to work. Then, it moved onto political power, hence the 19th Amendment to the Constitution. These were both legitimate pursuits, but beyond this, it’s all been a grab for power.
Despite women having a gigantic 3:1 advantage against men in STEM fields (due to gender quotas), the feminist media is STILL clamoring for more laws to be put in place regulating jobs. Women have always had more social power than men, but it’s only become worse with the modern slut-glorification and vanity of women—and how men can’t speak out against it, lest they lose their job.
And don’t even get me started on divorce rape or domestic abuse disputes. Yes, clearly some men are abusive and belong in jail, but there’s a huge amount of evidence showing that men are unfairly treated in these cases, even if a woman simply claims that he did something (despite being his girlfriend for 5 years).
So, it seems that in addition to having more social, economic, and political power than men, they even have more physical power over men by proxy of beta male white knights and police officers. Clearly it’s time for a change.
The massive amount of backlash that I expect this draft to receive will do two things:
●Make women realize that they actually do need men for some things
●Start pushing some feminist supporting men into seeing the hypocrisy of modern feminism
As this potential draft becomes more and more mainstream, it will also become the hot topic for casual banter, and will likely cause some heated debates. There’s no way that every woman in the US won’t know about this come New Year’s Eve.
I believe that this will start to begin the process of unbrainwashing women. Yes, it isn’t a lot, but it’s definitely a huge jump in the right direction. Striking fear into the hearts of women all across the USA will make them realize just how much they appreciate men.
Gender equality and equal opportunity is awesome and I 100% encourage it. But I also tend to think that the way feminism is going about it just isn't the answer.
Basically feminism, in it's attempts at getting rid of the cultural gender roles, are also shaming people for following by their BIOLOGICAL gender roles. They're starting to shame other women for being emotionally expressive, supportive and nurturing. Just as they shame men for being proactive, dominant and action-oriented. In doing this, they destroy what both genders stand for and their places in the world. They operate under the idea that they're trying to encourage the freedom to be yourself, but all they're doing is shaming people **FOR BEING THEMSELVES**.
Many men don't feel like men anymore because they were fist-fed that being masculine equates to being a jerk or a big-head. Yet they look at these masculine women and wonder why those women can be like that but he can't.
Meanwhile, many women are deeply troubled in their lives because they want to be taken care of and able to emotionally invest in a man she trusts. Yet, her friends and family pound it into her to stop being a "weakling" and be a "strong independent woman" and so she feels trapped.
We are threatened or insecure in the slightest when it comes to feminism. We just recognize the fact that gender equality is impossible and will never happen because men are vastly superior to women. We are much stronger both mentally and physically than women are.
And the reason men "complain" about it is because to achieve the so called "equality" we have now in western society, there is a requirement to discriminate against men. Men are the main tax-payers, we do all the hard physical labour and dangerous jobs, we maintain security as the majority of the police force and armies. women simply cannot handle these things, and they also use up so many resources with all the welfare required for them to compete with men, child support and wasted college educations etc. Its not a smart economic decision to devote sources into educating women and prioritizing highly valued positions to them with quotation laws, when you can have a more reliable man doing the same job but better due to mens higher average IQ and longer durability and time as part of the workforce.
Feminism is not sustainable, so you better get prepared to accept in the near future that patriarchy is completely natural and unavoidable.
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