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It's not gender equality that they find threatening or disagreeable, it's the actions of the feminist movement. Very often for example men's right activists and feminists have clashed because feminists have tried to shut down talks and attempts to help men with issues such as domestic violence against men and male suicide (4x as many men kill themselves as women do). Feminism claims to be about gender equality for all - why would they object to this then? They claim not to hate men - why then would they object to people trying to understand why so many more men than women are killing themselves and finding ways to prevent it? They claim to want men to show their feelings and ask for help - why do they then attack men when they do exactly that? That's why most of these guys are against feminism, because they act this way. There are many more examples that I could give if I had the time, but there's just a lot of hypocrisy there. Not only that, a lot of the statistics they spread have been proven to be completely false, which means that many of the issues they talk about are actually non-issues
I don't think they are afraid of gender equality as much as they fear the extremists of the feminist movement. The extremists tend to be the ones with the loudest voices and draw the most attention.
The other reason I can think of is that they feel left out of this movement because as much as the feminists like to preach that it's about gender equality, it seems to those men that they aren't being represented equally because their issues aren't being addressed. The main areas I see being refuted about this are in suicide and domestic abuse rates among men.
One final note I would like to make is that when we are having discussions about how to help women, the rhetoric can appear to generalize men, especially on social media by using phrases such as "teach men not to rape" and "men get off to showing dominance over women". And they see it reflected in their day to day lives, the tendencies of women who don't even know these men, tending to shy away from them (I don't blame the women for doing so. It just hurts as a dude knowing that I'm being judged as a bad person solely off my appearance because I'm a male). I don't think our dialogue is going anywhere as long as both sides feel attacked and underrepresented. Same with the tendency to talk past each other rather than working together and compromising. The hardest part of all this is accepting the fact that the few extremists don't represent the whole. Which obviously applies to both sides of the spectrum.
Insecure - not. Threatened - sure.
Third wave feminism is not helping women. It is further dividing and channeling discontent for the opposite sex. Feminism is all about equality until they are actually asked to be treated equally - then they want their entitlement.
Men are tired of being put down, disrespected, told that being a man is bad. All societal problems are blamed on men, when in reality, without men we wouldn't have our great society.
Then they'll stand there and ask, 'where are all the good men?' Sheesh!
Our fem-centric society is raising boys to be like girls. So we have this whole generation of weak girly-men that women despise. A woman wants a strong man, wants him to lead. Equality is about sharing responsibility and decisions, not overbearing the other. The FI wants men to be put down, put below them.
Ask any feminist how they want to be dominated in the bedroom. They will either deny it or lie.
The majority of women don't support third wave feminism, and are quite frankly confused by it. The 'you go gurl' meme and 'you deserve it' or 'you deserve better' are just feel-good sayings. Nobody DESERVES anything - they have to earn it.
Have you actually ever taken a look at what feminism is actually doing to people? Or the fact that it serves no purpose in the US anymore due to women already being equal to men in the eyes of the law.
https://youtu.be/TYClEpZbeU4?list=PLACHuve7G7Up0dnT9AEnVU1GcbuB-EPXMhttps://youtu.be/pZcTG2yFcBE?list=PLACHuve7G7Up0dnT9AEnVU1GcbuB-EPXMhttps://youtu.be/sX37YsFJvR0?list=PLACHuve7G7Up0dnT9AEnVU1GcbuB-EPXMAnd your never going to achieve true equality because men and women are not equal and we are not the same, we have different bodies we were created for different jobs, activities, we think differently, we approach problems and situations differently and we have different thought patterns.
To give you an idea of what third wave feminism is doing here are some videos that show what feminism are doing right now last year alone.
Watch these videos and we'll see whether you see it as a hypocritical supremacy hate group or a equality group.
To show a few.
So gee I wonder why we don't like feminists hmm what could possibly be the reason?
I don't think it's that they're insecure, and I don't think that they're against gender equality, I'm a female myself and honestly I feel like a lot of females take the whole feminism thing so far to the point that it's actually irritating and just plain annoying. When I say take it too far I mean like they stick it into everything like they apply it to every situation. I'm all for female empowerment but don't put down a man to build up a woman, and I know some guys do that but two wrongs don't make a right...
Most males on this website are losers that are afraid to approach women in real life, so they blame all their problems on feminists because they're extremely insecure introverts. They'll say things like "Well! What about child custody and women more likely to get off criminal cases!" which if they had even the slightest clue about feminism, would know that feminism is completely against those things and those laws regarding military service, child custody, and so forth were all created be men. But don't bother pointing it out to them because they'll just come back with "cuck!" or "shut up, white knight!" I've dated plenty of feminists, they're not like the small minority of misandrists that you see depicted on the internet. They're great, we split the bill and I don't have to do cringy shit like pull out their chair or hold the door open in this weird, 1800's traditionalist way.
Precisely. I said pretty much the same thing... and of coarse got the typical response xD
Pls give this guy the MHO
Congratulations spoken like a true fool!
because while this wave of feminism may quote the dictionary definition, it is not actually about equality. if it was, then they would give a crap about the men's position too. however, it is consistently pro female and hateful towards men. this is not just or right.
It's men on GaG, not all men in the real world.
I think it has to do with perception on one hand: they overestimate the likelihood of false rape accusations and such, on the other hand they fear society will go to a harem system (like gorillas have) because women can now be legally and financially independent, and that they won't be among the few "alphas" who get to enjoy the benefits of the harem system, while they still have to pay taxes for all the single momsand the health care and education of all those women who want nothing to do with them.
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Males are not threatened by gender equality and the only reason they even discuss how much they hate feminism is because third wave feminism is a cancer. Most females who follow third wave feminism are crazy, bent on rising ABOVE men, not being equal with them. They spread lies and utter bull. I'm a female and I probably hate it more than any of these men.
i'm glad you do
Amen.
It can't undermine the patriarchy because there is no such thing. We live in an equal society for both genders. Get off Tumblr. Those people are not sociologists, those terms are all pretend.
Feminism can't be about equality. The name promotes females. How can you be about equality when you're promoting one gender over the other? It makes no sense.
Feminism is for fat ugly cows who can't get laid and the only way they can feel important is to dye their hair blue, take ownership of their outcast status and create a fantasy world where they actually matter. Because in the real world.. they never will.
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@Nelsoen I keep it teal
Lol, real
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I`m a feminist and not to sound conceited or anything... but I look pretty good. haha seriously though I look at inequality that men have too. I think that men need more maternity leave and should not have to be forced to pay alimony while women really never have to. Those are things that should be looked at. Women don`t have to take away their femininity and men don`t have to take away their masculinity in a healthy feminist world and it should be about looking at both sides of inequality! I went to a feminist group for bonus in one of my classes a few years ago and I don`t really remember what exactly brought up this man saying this but I remember him saying how he had to raise his child all to himself while going to school and working and how it was very difficult. You know what they first thing the speaker said? Well, but did you breastfeed? That statement right there was stomping his accomplishment and that unhealthy idea of feminism is what turns people away and its sad.
because it turns people away from looking at issues that really need to be looked at. Instead of stomping on him she should have discussed how men should get better equal maternity leave to women.
To go over this question once again;
Most men aren't
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Definitions of equality change from person to person.
Many believe the genders are already equal and 3rd wave feminism is searching for special treatment.
More and more people flock to the flag of Feminism without actually believing in equality, but instead female superiority.
Many don't believe this so called patriarchy exists, more that we happen to live in a patriarchal society not because of cultural reasons but because of sociological and even anthropological reasons.
And on a personal note, I'm getting pretty tired of being told that some stranger knows what I am thinking better than I do. I oppose 99% of "movements" because they take their opinion as more inherently important than mine, and seem to assume that anyone who disagrees with them does so out of bigotry rather than the use of critical thinking.
As a girl myself, I'm not necessarily threatened by feminism but I do hate it. It teaches women that murdering babies for your own convience is okay. How sad. Not only that but the fact that we don't need feminism anymore. Women already have equal rights. They can drive, get an education, own property, have various birth control options, and so on. Feminism has done absolutely nothing to help women in the Middle East, feminists only bring up mid eastern women only to guilt trip those who aren't feminists. Modern feminism teaches women to be slutty and promiscuous to be equal to men when guys I know don't walk around naked everywhere they go or write "man whore" on their chests or whatever. Modern feminism is just a big insult to women. Period.
So young and naive, in literally everything you said is wrong.
How? Can you give me valid arguments?
First of all, abortion isn't "murdering babies", might want to pay attention in biology class as embryos and fetuses they are not sentient, physically independent beings. "We don't need feminism anymore" Maybe not so much on a legal scale in the case of women, but women and men alike have social constructs pushed on them by society. A bit hard to push in the Middle East when women literally have acid thrown in their faces trying to get an education or even drive a car. "Modern feminism teaches women to be slutty and promiscuous"? So men can just bang whoever they want and be winners but women have to constrain their sexual desires? What? Who cares if women want sex, what's it anyone's business?
Trust me, YOU'RE a big insult to women writing this ignorant diatribe.
I believe men and women are equal
but I also believe men and women are different
like we have periods. we can give birth
men tend to do some heavy work that we can't like going for wars with army
sure some countries have girls in the army
but what i mean is some things men tend to do better than women
and something women can do and men can't
so yes we are equal but we are different
I love being woman. i really enjoy being female. i never dreamt to be guy or to act like guy ,.
i think being guy is nice and being girl is nice
but god created me as girl and i love it !
Well... There are some woman that claim they are feminism yet they hate men. Like every gesture they do, they hate. And fail to understand that both genders are equal. There are things men can do that women can't, and there are some things women can that men can't. Those woman that think they don't need a man and the woman are greater then man... In the end that is still as bad as men putting a woman down.
I believe in equality and in partnership. But some just want to fight about which gender is better. And that is not setting equality, that is just dividing
1) I don't have problem with feminism until, She starts spreading lies... Ex=(Testosterone is raging hormone and only males have it)
2) Female gender is superior to male one, now tell me where is equality in that. I mean Biologically and physiologically females are weak.(I can defend it if anyone want to start a war about that)
3) Its always about gender superiority, I have found only a few girls actually talking about equality... EX=I can lay with anyone cuz its "my body my rules" but you can't lay with everyone cuz by this you will cheat on me and play with feelings.
Because Feminism is a hate movement, it's right and moral to fight against it.
Hateful Feminist Ideologies and Policies (not comprehensive):
Patriarchy Theory
Rape Culture Theory
Domestic Violence Policy
Victim/identity Politics
Suppression of scientific knowledge
Pro Censorship
Redefining things like Racism, to exclude white people
Pro Sexism initiatives, like affirmative action, title 9, dear colleague letter
Putting Ideology ahead of Facts, Gender is a social construct etc..
hear, hear!
Women and Men have equal rights until you look at divorce law. Women have far more rights and benefits there
Most of what this feminist retards are pushing for is SOCIAL reform, which will never happen (unless you have beta men as mayors and governors buying into this garbage like you do in New York with the "man spreading" nonsense), because you can't change most people.
That said, here's why I hate feminists:
1. Their full blown lies like the wage gap, their hypocrisy, and how they manipulate statistics to make things seem worse than they really are.
2. Their sexist, juvinile terminology. "Toxic Masculinity, Manspreading, Mansplaining"
3. They play victim on things that aren't even real.
To be honest, if one person came up to me and told me they were a hardcore sexist, and another person told me they were a hardcore feminist, I'd hate the feminist more. Feminists are the scum of the earth.
... But I do support gender equality lol.
First of all feminism =/= gender equality. I have absolutely no problem with gender equality but I have a problem with feminism because focusing on just one sex when you live in a first world country is beyond stupid in my opinion. If you're gonna be a social activist then acknowledge that other groups of people have their problems too, not just yours.
"If you're gonna be a social activist then acknowledge that other groups of people have their problems too, not just yours." AMEN! Couldn't have said it better myself man.
Because feminism has no sense in America and Europe, where women has the same (in some countries more) rights as men. Every person should see the couple as a team, not they as a single person. Why a person want to battle just for theirselves when they are married? That's not love.
For example, in Britain, wages of public employees males became shorter when feminist complained about the difference of wages between males and females. A success for feminism, but a failure for women who believe in love and prefer their husband to have his salary as high as possible.
Your premise is false to begin with. Men aren't threatened by Feminism.
Now, why is it a reoccurring controversial topic on GAG? Because there's a large number of women who call themselves feminists who bring up topics in regards to it and a larger number of women in general who bring up topics in regards to gender equality in one way or another. A good number of men who don't believe in the Patriarchy (because it doesn't exist, but hey you brought it up. So why not contest it) bring both up as well, but to a smaller degree and it's normally a topic stating why feminism is silly, unnecessary or how feminists/feminism is downright annoying. Because if we're being honest in most cases they are. Agree or disagree it doesn't really matter. But if there was not a large number of women talking about this it would be an almost nonexistent topic on GaG.