Makes no sense to me, people are becoming so brainwashed now thar being anti nazi and anti racism is now consider a radical political ideology rather than common sense and rational thinking?
But the actual nazis are the people on the left, right?
The actual nazis are the people fighting against the nazis apparently. These anti fascists are actually anti fascist
Yet all the extremist groups that showed up at the capital riot where right wingers: to be specific Proud Boys, militiamen, white supremacists, anti-maskers and diehard Trump supporters?
(And to disprove any of the conspiracy theorists that believe blm actually stormed the capital: there have already been several videos and livestreams that have came up of trump supporters and members of hate groups planing the capital and storming it
Some of the far right extremists that showed up went with the intention of assassinating government officials. Police found pipe bombs, others carrying semi automatic weapons, others had Molotov cocktails.
This is the reality of how dangerous fascists are, this is the reality of who the true fascists are.
Yet the media continually portrays social justice advocates like blm and antifa as the “real fascists” “the terrorists”
Let’s look at it realistically, these right wingers assaulted a capital officer by the name of Brian D. Sicknick. Two men sprayed chemicals into his eyes during the siege.
Hardly Dunn, an African America capital police officer was called racial slurs, luckily they did nothing to him but they definitely did threatened him.
There all terrorist the people who attacked the capital are stupid if your going to raid the capital take down the government and don’t stop until there all dead. Don’t get me wrong I hate Biden and democratic there no better then white supremacist because the color of your skin is the least important part about a person, but Jan 6 morons are terrible as well as BLM and antifa most of my family is black I’m adopted my adopted dad is white and he married a women with mix race children me myself and my adopted and there adopted parents are white by brother his daughter and my sister and her son and daughter are black, but I’m not going to agree with Marxism which BLM and antifa are marxist, I hate BLM because they took a statement that’s completely obvious and then say If I don’t agree with what BLM stands for (Marxism) I’m a racist of course Black Lives Matter but That doesn’t mean I have to agree with Marxism to say of course black lives , matter all lives matter does matter if you’re black white Asian Latino all lives matter stop rioting and killing people that simple and stop promoting Marxism and socialism and communism I’m not going to agree with those ideas, unfortunately people never read BLM standard for ideologically so they don’t understand where I’m coming from
But pretending like BLM and Antifa causing over $2B of property damage (disproportionately against the same minority communities they claim to support), killing at least 58 (half of them police officers, and likely many more than that number written off as "gang violence" as usual in big cities), and directly attacking and torching government buildings including courthouses and city halls, while also being very openly encouraged and directly supported by prominent news figures, mayor's, governors, congressmen/women, senators, and even the current sitting vice president of the United States, who funded bail for criminals involved is in any way shape or form the lesser of the two, is insane.
The Capitol riot was executed entirely by a miniscule group that split off from the main protest, and the extent of damages were a couple broken windows and locks, and a stolen glass lectern. The only casualty was a protestor who was shot by a guard in what can only be described as a questionable shot. No politicians actually encouraged it, the one they tried to blame was actively silenced when he attempted to tell them off, and the same people who incited the Antifa/BLM riots above are still lying about basic facts regarding the Capitol to this day. Even if you completely ignored the summer riots and looked solely at attacks on the Capitol, it was comparable to AOC and her useful idiots storming the Capitol during the Justice Kavanaugh hearings but without a guard shooting a protestor, and definitely not up to snuff with the 1983 bombing of the US Capitol by, guess what? Radical leftists. The overdramatic WoRsT dAy Of OuR dEmOcRaCy garbage the media throws around regarding January 6th is blatant propaganda far removed from reality.
This isn't new. Black panthers. Malcom X. Martin Luther King. All of them considered terrorists during their time. Anytime poc speaks out of racial inequality, it's terrorists. They start looking for anything that they can spin to be terrorist actions. Samething done with police shooting or any criminal action. Here's exactly how the news and social media plays out Black person dies. The thug got what they deserved. We commit a crime typical criminal such a thug.
White person dies. Poor person made a bad decision. White people commits a crime. The system failed him. How could he have done better by him.
This is so true. Even for the recent Michigan shooter, why tf are there videos of news companies trying to paint him as innocent by showing pictures of him when he was younger?
Exactly. When treyvon martin died the picked pics of him trying to depict him like a thug. George Floyd went digging to make him look bad. Breonna Taylor everything they could. Tried it with Ahmaud Aubrey they were so desperate with him the best they could do was say he had dirty toenails. I mean really? All the damn school shootings white kids committed they always paint them as a victim of the system, but we are automatically condemned as it's a blessing we were removed from society.
See, you use a lot of logic in your answers, but they don't like that. They can't stand logic and reasoning, they parrot the same talking points if Fox News, and deflect all the time. That's how right-wingers argue. All they're scared off is being called "racist" when they do exhibit a lot of racism, but even then they cannot back up any of their points with facts and data.
Antifa is a terrorist organisations and blm is misused and get taken advantaged by terrorist organisations such as antifa etc. I personally dont understand why black people dont track the families who keep their ancestors as slaves and dont say to them hi :). I would make sure that the families that kept my grand grand parents as slaves pay for it if i was black. In germany and austria we pay taxes for the victims of nazism. i dont understand the point of being part of blm. Just track the people who kept your ancestors as slaves and say to them hi as I said :)
You really think it's that easy, huh? Taxes? There are White families who still have records of the slaves their ancestors have owned, and refuse to turn them over to the Black descendents of those slaves. That's for one. Secondly, 93% of BLM protests are peaceful, so I don't know what you're on about. This is the oldest trick in the book. MLK was arrested and called a terrorist. MalcomX, Angela Davis and so on. You think we don't know how this works? And since when does rioting justify police murder and oppression? Even if we were to say that those instances 7% of the time were riots where businesses where damaged, and property was destroyed, how does that discredit the cause that people are fighting for? The way I see it, it's human lives > property. Anything else is collateral damage, because you can fix a building, but you cannot bring someone back to life. This is an example of deflecting from the point at hand, from justice and accountability to "riots" that ate not even the majority. Then, January 6th. That was not an assault of your local Trader Joe's, that was an attack on Democracy. The first time since the 1800s where the Capitol was breached, and the first time EVER that a Confederate flag was held in the Capitol. If you don't think that's worse, you really have to be very foolish. They're definitely not the same at all.
I'm totally aware of what you said. Quote "and blm is misused and get taken advantage of by terrorist organizations like antifa". BULLSHIT. That's the oldest trick in the book. What proof do you have of that? First of all, Black Lives Matter is a completely independent organization that is unrelated to any other, not even the NAACP. Secondly, if what you're saying is true, we would see more terrorist attacks in BLM marches, which once again is false. 93% are peaceful. Where's your proof? Thirdly, how do you know I don't tell this to other users? You said, quote "Both are bad. Whoever think only one of the is bad, is a huge hypocrite". No, only the 6th of Jan riot is bad, not BLM. There you go, I didn't "twist your words", I responded properly to your bs. I said if you don't think that it's worse, then you're a fool. I didn't directly call you a fool, but then you confirmed that you don't think that it's worse. Unless you can provide me with any statistics that says otherwise, you can call me a fool all you want, but you will look more foolish by responding emotionally to an argument.
Bs. I know antifa whose "friends" are terrorists in turkey, stupid idiot. There are pics of them. Just f off idiot. I dont want to discuss with a folish person like you, idiot. I have no time for your bullshit. I read many posts and i did not see you there. Just let me tf alone. You can agree to disagree with me but you have no right to insult me but also complain when i insult you back , idiot. So fuck off, please. You are annoying and call everything i say wrong, fool. I dont care. I dont want to discuss weirdo. So stop spamming me. I ain't change my mind for fools like you.
There was once a rancher in Nevada whose land was in jeopardy. The BLM was attempting to steal his land and cattle out from under him. This is not the same BLM you are referring to... I am referring to the Bureau of Land Management.
So Militia came from all over the United States to stop the government from stealing this guy's land. There was literally a standoff. No shots were fired but it was tense. Eventually the BLM gave up.
A couple years later the same thing was happening to a family in Oregon. That same rancher's sons went up there and the same thing happened. Only this time it was different. This time shots were fired. This is all real shit, look it up. It didn't work out the same.
I am saying all of this because around the time of the incident in Oregon, which once again had the BLM in the news in a bad light, Trayvon Martin was shot. Suddenly BLM was Black Lives Matter. Suddenly it was bad to talk shit about BLM. Suddenly no one was paying attention to what was happening in Oregon... I just always found it to be an interesting coincidence.
I have also always said that the death of LaVoy Finicum was the death of our right to truly stand up to a tyrannical government. Things have only gotten much, much worse since then.
See, the thing about groups such as BLM and Antifa is that all they really do is create more division. Every little group with a cause that pops up like them only divides us further. The more we are divided, the more we fight amongst ourselves, the easier it is to conquer us.
What we need is solidarity. To love each other for our differences. To celebrate them. Through our diversity we should find unity. Instead we segregate ourselves... and then the people who we claim to be the oppressors, we did their job for them and they win.
So black people and other minorities should not think they matter as much as white people and just shut up it seems that you think. BLM wouldn't have formed if more people cared about black lives as much as white lives. If more white people cared about minorities lives as much as black lives there wouldn't be BLM and other groups like LA Raza, etc
No, I didn't say that. Do you understand what solidarity is? I don't think that at all. These ideas came from within you. I am sorry you feel that way brother.
@WhyAmEyeDvsnHere86 (1/2) “I am saying all of this because around the time of the incident in Oregon, which once again had the BLM in the news in a bad light”
I disagree, this is really nothing but speculation. Blm had existed for way long than treyvon martins tragic death, it was formed in 2013. It was just a streak of luck that blm got more media coverage and more popularity mostly because blm already gained popularity threw an internet hashtag trend of people spreading light to police brutality.
Don’t get me wrong though, I agree the Bureau of land management is a piece of shit mostly for the way they treat natives.
“I have also always said that the death of LaVoy Finicum was the death of our right to truly stand up to a tyrannical government.”
That just isn’t true, I rarely defend the us government but in this case the far right extremist (white supremacists which half of them to no surprise showed up at the unite the right rally) that occupied that wildlife centers were in the wrong considering the fact you conveniently left out how he was asked to reduce the number of cattle he owned since they were damaging the habitat of the desert tortoise and other endangered species.
But he refused and stopped paying grazing fees. This is what led to the government removing the cattle.
This was not the epic loss and “end of government tyranny” you thought it was. It was just a case of far right militant nuts going crazy because heaven forbid the government cares about the environment for once?
(2/2) “See, the thing about groups such as BLM and Antifa is that all they really do is create more division.”
Nothing you just explained to me explains in the slightest how you think blm is supposedly dividing people?
Talking about racial issues is not dividing people, bringing up bipoc is not dividing people. Silence is was divides, compliance is what divides.
“Every little group with a cause that pops up like them only divides us further. The more we are divided, the more we fight amongst ourselves, the easier it is to conquer us.”
Blm isn’t a little group, they’re an organization fighting against police brutality? It’s pretty confusing in my opinion if you agree that the us government is tyrannical but now when it comes to blm specifically you don’t believe we should use violence to protect ourselves against this?
“What we need is solidarity. To love each other for our differences”
Blm calls for solidarity and to do everything you’re stating. Your world view isn’t possible if you think we can achieve that by simply ignoring systemic issues and injustice like racism.
I think the actions of both groups speak for themselves. BLM hasn’t help any blacks people except themselves. All them multi million dollar homes they bought for themselves. The democrats use blacks as they always have since the times when they owned them. Republicans freed the blacks and indeed many of the first republicans were black. They were a party dedicated to law and freedom for all. Unfortunately they have devolved as well just the other side of the coin as democrats. I am a libertarian I believe in using my own mind and I believe in the constitution and bill of rights. Our government is influenced by big money it has nothing to do with right and wrong any longer make no mistake both sides want to enslave us all , just in different ways. We the people need to wake up to this and take our country and our peace back. We need to stop all the senseless abuses perpetrated on us by the state and the law. We need to stop feeding this beast with our money and our lives and the lives of our children. Racism is a political tool used to manipulate the ignorant.
@Steven8000 C'mon Steven, pick a new tune, every reply you have given has the same message. You sound like another of the perpetually, professionally oppressed. We keep saying ALL LIVES and you keep changing it to we think black and minority lives matter less. I think they call that "race baiting". You're entitled to your opinion but in MY HUMBLE OPINION cry babies and busy bodies are a big part of the reason there is so much division in the world.
@Ginchygoo I agree with your assessment. I didn’t answer that comment because it was not worth answering. I find dealing with stupid people who perpetuate hatred , and just idiotic nonsense very tedious. Also time has taught me there is no cure for stupidity it just is ignorance can be taught. I am finding more just plain stupid of late.
@Ginchygoo If all lives matter how come Trumpsters don't respond all lives matter when people say blue lives matter or anything else. They never respond all with any other cause but all of a sudden do when people say black lives matter. The problem you have is with the word black it shows. You guys care about black lives, just less than white lives and it shows with how you respond only all lives matter with black lives.
It is a dumb reply. If they truly cared about all lives than they would respond all lives matter when people say Blue Lives Matter and other things too. That shows the problem many people have is with the word black, since All lives matter is only mentioned when people say black lives matter.
I'm a guy on the right. I don't know anyone who doesn't qualify what happened on January 6th as anything other than terrorism. They exucuted violence (property damage) for political reasons, and did so without the sanction of their government (the difference between war and terrorism is whether the government sanctions your political-minded violence).
So yes, the group of people that stormed the Capitol Building were absolutely terrorists (although not everyone that went to the rally went to the Capitol Building). I have no objection to them being tried to the fullest extent of the law.
My issue arises from the fact that Antifa and BLM, who have done far more property damage are not being tried with the same passion. Terrorism is terrorism - it doesn't matter whether you, personally, believe in the cause or not. The government is charged with treating everyone equally, meaning individuals that commit violence on people or their property without said person's consent should be charged and brought to trial, where a jury of their peers can decide whether what they did was justified.
The people at The Capital who defied the Police and entered The Capitol building were technically rioters after the police sent that code out over the radio. The police had to retreat because of the sheer size of the crowd several times and requested backup to help them because they saw the situation getting out of control. Police were injured and a rioter was killed. Several rioters entered the building with motive to kidnap and others stole government property and destroyed government property. No way that would go unpunished. BLM is not a singular event, it’s a movement that took place through out the country and took several forms. Sometimes it was just people holding signs to show support for a people disproportionately affected by Police and excessive force. Sometimes it was people who let their emotions get the best of them and they destroyed property. I think the difference is location and intent. The people at The Capitol building were there for very political reasons. BLM has been politicized but the main message is in regards to racial discrimination. That’s my take.
Everybody who participated in the Capitol Hill riots were arrested and charged (rightfully). But are sitting vice president Kamala Harris was raising bail funds to get antifa rioters out of jail last year. Think about that.
The Capitol Hill riots was a very gross and ugly yet isolated incident. It only happened ONCE. However Antifa and BLM radicals in aggregate caused way more damage and harmed way more people (including murder).
Besides the Capitol riots please give me one other example where far right radicals have rioted in the last 5 years? Really.
@spartan55 charlottesville was ugly. But here are a few facts about that incident:
- the far right protestors did get a permit to put on their event and they were just marching around in a circle with tiki torches - a larger counter protest showed up and they initiated physical violence. They started throwing shit at them which got everything more agitated. - that idiot who ran his car into the crowd got arrested and rightfully put away for life - many of the far right protestors were identified and lost their jobs.
Now am I “defending” far right extremists? Fuck no. Hell no. What they stand for is disgusting. But regardless of ideologies they did follow the rules. They got a permit and stayed in their area. They were protesting peacefully until the far leftist showed up. People could of easily just ignored them. They would of just marched in a circle and then went back home to their miserable lives.
But instead of ignoring them the media went ballistic and journalists showed up in droves. They loved that because it fits their “America is a white supremacist country” narrative. A larger mass of leftist protests up and initiated violence. This culminated with that oxygen wasting POS driving his car into the crowd and killing one woman.
The bottom line is while white supremacist groups still exist they are extremely isolated, powerless and fringe. Far leftist organizations (antifa) are much more widespread, have much power, have much more money and are being protected by powerful public figures. Antifa today is what the KKK was back in the 1920s.
The people who were actually violent at the Capitol are arguably terrorists. The problem is that there weren't a whole lot of people at the Capitol who were actually violent; don't forget that American citizens are actually allowed to be in the Capitol building. Dictionary. com defines terrorism as "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims." Strictly speaking, Jan 6 did not involve attacking civilians. The more radical Antifa and BLM members, on the other hand, assaulted and vandalized small businesses and small business owners in pursuit of their political goals. So I guess what I'm saying is that it's a issue of definitions; Antifa and BLM are terrorists because they attacked civilians; the Capitol rioters didn't.
the Capitol rioters literally assaulted police officers and planned to assassinate government officials. Maybe you’d know this already if you tried reading?
And you’re really acting like they just walked in the Capitol peacefully. No, it’s called a capital “siege” for a reason.
Which government officials? I think both you and I can agree that a lot of them are evil.
And BLM has assaulted police officers as well. When we dont get our way we may be aggressive towards law and order. Natural human thing. Neither are right though. Both are wrong.
Rioters were more like gang warfare. I was actually on the ground there that day. Saw many places where the crowd did not start it. The cops did. Things escalated.
Watched police literally beat a girl down a brick staircase with his riot shield when she was just standing there and not listening when they told her to step down the stairs.
She was already on the other side of the fence they put up. They wanted to move the fence again. She said no (which I'd actually her right as a citizen). They assaulted her with a shield and she fell down the stairs and people around her tended to her.
That cop got his shield ripped from him by the crowd and violence increased. Like people act as if the crowd started it. They really didn't.
@TRUKIT808 I don't even know man. I used to go up to DC for a good time and the place is trash now. Even people I know who have lived there for 5+/10+ years have moved because of the bullshit
Dang man, that's crazy. Kinda sad to think about. Thats our nation's capital n its a total shit show. Makes our country look pathetic. Yea I've heard that about people moving. I dont blame 'em.
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It is just the opposite if you listen to the fake news media. Burning buildings, police cars, court houses and assaulting police was just a peaceful protest if it was done by BLM. Citizens breaking a couple of windows and trespassing in a government building was met with deadly force and many people were arrested and incarcerated with no bail for what amounted to trespassing. There was no fires, vandalism, destruction of statues and assault on police. THis was called an insurrection and all 250.000 people that were in DC were investigated by the FBI. If the hundreds of instances of voter fraud were investigated as vigorously as the FBI investigate the Jan 6th protesters the protest never would have happened.
Because a lot of the people that rioted at the Capitol it was a setup a lot of the blms were there and admitted they were there to start shit and rile up the crowd which is what they did and because of that innocent people died especially a veteran that got shot that woman that was completely sad. BLM and antifa are doing nothing but causing problems they're not trying to be out there about all lives matter I mean it's not just black lives that matter everybody matters I'm not racist at all I think everybody matters in this world we were all created equal but yet then you've got BLM and all that even the head BLM guy came out and said it that BLM is fake they're not after trying to make black lives matter they're trying to tear down the US and everywhere they go to make it a communist state and that's bullcrap and US citizens aren't going to stand for that shit
I will tell you why. Because Conservatives are stupid and lack logic. They are highly emotional, but want to act like they're the "gatekeepers to truth" whatever that means. Any debate about racism is always about what they "feel", not what data shows. 93% of protests are peaceful, but since they feel that the movement is not peaceful, you can't change their mind. They don't provide any evidence to their claims at all, just some bs fallacy, or deflect with their favorite tactic, "whataboutism". Arguing with a smart individual is tough, but arguing with an idiot is damn right impossible.
Well to me there are extremists on both sides and going too extreme on anything like that won’t lead to a good outcome as extremists will now care more about THIER cause than what’s good for everyone else. The people that were at the capital were most likely right wing extremists but than there is anti-fa who is more left wing extremists. They both aren’t good but saying that one or the other is bad and saying your side is good doesn’t help either (ex: antifa is bad but the right wingers on the right aren’t bad) I think that going to extremes like that will never be good and it won’t work out.
Fox "news" spent a great deal of effort blowing up the protests and even showed a soccer riot in Germany to make it look like a mob. They never reported in the white supremacists agent provocateur that lit the fires , never showed the video if the police breaking the doors to Target then letting the looters loot to discredit the protests.
Without Fox propaganda none of this would have happened.
The idiots who watch Fox bought the lies and used it as an excuse to promote the white supremacists movement which is Fix'news'
You are believing your own bullshit. if you look at the vids you will see the police holding the capitol doors open for the people. The people you say that were not there antifa blm were the one s calling for the people riot and if you call this a riot it was very very small when measured against the antifa and blm lead riots that murdered burned down black and white stores and. burning cop cars and beating cops. Do yourself a big favor and learn about Hitler and you will find these riots and looting do not come close to what Hitler did with the tens of millions of people raped murdered tortured by a crazy man blm and antifa are using his methods to try to break up this country but people are getting smart to this now we have to get the Communist running this country out of office
@dustybiker Yes you are right, also a guard murdering an unarmed woman by shooting her in the head.. Two things that should never have happened but did.
The fact that Babbit was at the head of a mob, half way through a broken window and climbing over a barricade into a room with people armed guards were tasked with protecting has nothing at all to do with her death, of course. Oh, and she was carrying a backpack on a day when they'd already found two pipe bombs in the city.
Not all blm and antifa members are terrorists, but the ones that riot are. And the leaders enable or create the riot and looting environment.
One was staged and orchestrated by imposters, the other wasn't. Well I guess you cuold argue that both are, since the elites manipulate everything these days.
People really try to remove from the actually message and shit they are protesting by saying blm loots and riots despite statistics literally showing most blm protests are non violent.
It doesn’t even matter if blm protests are non violent or whatever. I’m more worried that black people are being disproportionately murdered by police than some people looting and robbing a business that already robs their own workers via wage theft anyways
I understand and respect your opinion but the other people saying the capital rioters were let in says a lot like the powers that be really put that in forward just to sobatage trump its so suspicious to me.
And you are right to correct me, most blm and antifa are probably not terrorist. Antifa is probably worse than blm. Antifa literally beats people up and claims self defense.
Antifa is a whiny fascist group ironically and blm is people that dont want there babies to die. But I do think BLM needs to improve and stop being controlled opposition, or better yet make a new version without to much political involvement andcall it black lives are valuable instead because "Civil" and "Matter" are both commie tricks that mean enslavement later on down the line they play black people in the 60s and now there doing it again even worse look up lyndon b johnson and his Great society and how it affected the community
I think that the new movement should be focused on giving value to black life and respecting it by trying to improve ghettos, break down negative stereotypes, building black businesses, protesting police violence and criminal on black violence and criminal killing of black children violence and people who kill black kids, basically stop focusing entirely on police and *alleged* white supremacist
Both events are understandable and I sympathize with both. Black people riot because they tired of there community being killed by police and the justice system and government never taking it serious or responding to it seriously, and the capital people want there country back, to not be taken over by commies and fascists.
@doopayo 93% of all blm protests over 2,400 of them peacful. 7% 72 violent and after deeper investigation more than half violence was started by angry police or anti blm bystanders. Ironic we protest how police are too violent against us while they get attacked by police🤔
But the news loves to make us look bad, so they portray all of our protests as violent. But we know this is typical over 80% of us are not criminals but when most people speak of us we are all criminals 🤷🏾♀️go figure
@Msputiton that may be true, but when it comes to stuff like this its hard to see when both the protestors and police are out of line, because they both seem to be pushing the limits and being too aggressive. And you are right, police are wrong to attack you for peacefully protesting. BLM has a bad rap in the media, that is part of why I suggest making a new movement and rebelling against BLM because its leaders are toxic and that is why it is so decentralized.
Toxic because the media says so. You know who else the media claimed to be a terrorist martin luther king. So excuse me if the media claiming a leader of a pro black movement is toxic, isn't believable. And why does the media only cover blm stance on police brutality? All the blm food drives in inner cities where they refuse to even provide quality food to these neighborhoods so blm does it, the rallys i volunteered to be part of where they fight against crime in black communities by teaching us there are more ways to get out of the bad situations than crime and sports and to speak out against crime. Teaching us how to have a political voice. I'm sorry it doesn't matter who leads a black movement they will be portrayed as a terrorist and criminal to ruin it. This is what the media does to all of our causes.
@Msputiton Hold on a minute im not mad or trying to disparage you buddy I dont hate you at all your not a bad girl or anything im not trying to criticize you just civilly and respectfully and nicely and compassoinately share my view and some facts from a fair and balanced standpoint, which is very hard in these days, I am autistic as well and I try really hard to be the best I can in these kind of conversations. And that is true the media does like to make all black movements look bad. I dont think all black movements are bad. I think the illuminati elite manipulate the media the government and the controlled opposition movements. Not all of its leaders are bad but look at what they say and how they distort MLK words to overly coddle and enable rioting and looting. You gotta think for yourself buddy. I am not here to tell you what to think, I will only tell you to not let people on either side bully you into believing there bs.
Lmfao, now i see it. I clearly tell you my stance like you do. Now I'm an angry black woman being defensive. You make a question making this claim and invite me to. First of all I'm not a Democrat. 2nd I'm not angry I'm just don't agree with your misinformed representation of blm and the leaders. But typical we aren't allowed to voice our opinions without being angry and you guys now a victim.🤣
the protesters at the capitol didn’t attack anyone. They broke and entered a government building. Attacking government which is tyrannical is moral, attacking your fellow citizens and local businesses is deplorable
They can be, but that doesn’t give you the right to initiate violence against them. Keep your hands to yourself
The government on the other hand is ALWAYS fair game as a target of the people. The government should be afraid of us, the system devolves into tyranny otherwise. The government IS force, and when that force tramples our rights, we must hold their feet to the fire
Shamalien be nicer to Doopayo she is only 15 and you don't understand the full extent of her ideas and you are rightabout that the government isn't gonna make racism sexism ableism etc better its gonna make it worse and enslave us all so we need to stop begging the governemnt to help us and make it smaller and so we are not controlled
Antifascist also majority organize non violently. The only time they engage in violence is against fascist hate groups (which are 9x/10 the aggressors)
Antifa has been rioting, assaulting and destroying for the last 6 years.
You know about the tiki torch rally a few years ago where a bunch of white supremacists were walking around? Everything was fine until antifa showed up and started attacking them.
And didn't blm attack the court house where that cop was on trial?
If antifa is so against fascism, why do they act like fascists, shutting down speaking events, doxxing. Hell, some dipshit bombed an ICE facility.
Spare me your statistics, I've seen enough videos of these lunatics
Well BLM and antifa rioted across America for months burning buildings , looting, attacking innocent people and racking up a destruction bill of over 2 BILLION dollars. Around 25 people died from the riots and many more seriously injured. They even took over 6 city blocks of Seattle for 6 weeks and called it CHAZ/CHOP. Tell me who in this day and age can take over part of a major city for 6 weeks without facing jail or criminal charges? The antifa/BLM "security" even shot and killed two black guys and no one was charged. Talk about racial justice. Lol
So yes, BLM, antifa, anarchists & other sorts of left-wing are neo-fascists (just because they have a fancy name doesn't change what their actions are). I'm yet to hear any one of them actually killing/assaulting someone (self-defense case of Rittehouse doesn't count), despite having weapons. But I've heard of Trump supporters being executed in the streets, or leftists driving into a crowd, as it happened last week or so.
But then again, I don't expect you to understand it for a variety of reasons.
Did you take the time to read your sources, or did you just link them without knowing what they said. None of the sources you provided reinforce your argument?
@doopayo I didn't completely read either article he sent - But all of them literally start with pro Trump supporter attacked and killed😂😂 - the second one from the ny times clearly stated it has footage the attacker was waiting for his victim - And the last one is worse he gave you the exact link to the car driving into a crowd event that literally happened 2 weeks ago - well you're right it doesn't reinforce his argument it plainly confirms it
Sorry but believe that BLM is a very racist organization. All lives matter, some do matter more to me than others but I'm sure you have friends and family too. by the way, I probably have more black friends than white friends and I'm 100% dago (that's Italian for you PC folks)
You mean you think white lives matter more than minority lives and not equally. BLM would have never formed if more white people cared about black lives EQUALLY to white lives. Also it doesn't matter that you have black friends. There have been numerous people that have had friends, etc of people of differenterent races yet still were racist as hell
@Steven8000 I didn't say that I thought white lives matter more than minority lives I said ALL lives matter, ALL LIVES could only be construed as a statement of equality in my opinion at least. Then as a joke I implied that the lives of my friends and family mattered more to me than the lives of people I have no association with, but here also i meant regardless of race. I believe that most people feel the same way about their friends and family. Additionally, I would have to feel that if I personally was "racist as hell" I wouldn't give people of other races the opportunity to form friendships with me, let alone consider them MY friends. I personally find stereotyping people for any reason a foolish and frankly moronic thing to do. You'll never hear me refer to anyone as a "typical" anything. You made an assumption when you said "You mean you think white lives matter more than minority lives" you shouldn't be so quick to judge others without collecting adequate information about them (the literal definition of prejudice (from "prejudge")) regardless of the fact that my statement was obviously not indicative of an opinion of anything other than eqality. I believe that if people would THINK more (maybe people like you), there would be LESS racism in the world. Just saying...
If people cared about all lives than they only wouldn't respond all lives when people say black lives matter. They never respond that when people say blue lives matter and other things. That shows the problem is with the word black. You care about black lives just less than white lives. Or else you would say all lives matter in response to blue lives matter and other things too
They both are. The major difference though is that BLM and ANTIFA burnt countless cities down and did BILLIONS in property damage. It's a pattern for the leftist groups. As for the right, they were let into the capital and this was a one-off instance. When was there another time anything even remotely similar happened on the right? Another thing is that leftist groups almost exclusively use violence and rioting to push their ideology, and if that isn't terrorism, I don't know what is
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