Seems like plenty of folk, specifically in the West, think whether we're going to invade the Ukraine. Apparently, it's because they imagine invasions like Iraq / Libya / other countries they've fucked up, yet don't really care about it: roll in, bomb everything to shit indiscriminately (be that military base, wedding party, hospital, school, meat factory, doesn't matter), kill millions of folks, get tons of oil & steal gold, then pose for the picture with a teddy bear near some kid and smile "I'm helping" and it's ok; as an added bonus create huge shockwaves of refugees that can't exactly reach USA due to distance, but that can reach Europe, thus weaking Europe internally; continue to have troops on the grounds in order to be able to pump more oil and control narcotraffic. Since those countries are on the other side of a planet and the West, especially Americans, are super self-centrered, they don't really know what it's like invading a neighboring country that's piss-poor on resources.
So for those that never asked themselves why would we want to invade the Ukraine, let me explain a little bit:
Ukraine is a failed state with broken economy, broken infrastructure, extreme corruption, shittons of extremists, broken military (consisting almost entirely from what was left by the Soviet Union in 1991, thus making it 30 years old, or by buying stuff from the West that's so old, the West about to utilize that old crap anyway, but decided to make some money selling it to the Ukraine), with almost no natural resources.
Thus invading it gives no benefits whatsoever; if a plan is just to destroy it for shits and giggles, it's not really worth it: it's just political damage to us, waste of ammunition & creation of shittons of refugees that can easily end up on our soil, since if you'll open the map, you'll see it's our neighbor, thus creating potential for insurgency on our soil, terroristic in nature. And again, there are barely any natural resources in there for us to exploit. So only losses with no gains.
If plan is to invade it in order to occupy it, again: it's damage to our political image, refugees again, local insurgency, but this time also insane financial spending on keeping the peace (ask Americans how it went in Afghanistan for 20 years LMAO and where exactly that trillion dollars went) and restoration of decades-old infrastructures (old to such an extent that even in *capital* city bridges are collapsing due to being *that* old). So again, only losses with no gains for decades to come.
So whenever someone builds up hysteria that we're going to attack that shithole, ask yourself what do we get out of it. Unless, of course, you're an absolute retard that thinks we're in a mood to invade something for shits and giggles, since we're your stereotypical Hollywood villain who does something because he feels like it.
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They all speak Russian in Ukraine. By choice if you ask them. No matter how much BS the CIA tries to sell you, Ukraine has been more or less Russia for centuries. Russia has a hell of a claim on all territory west of itself. See invasions from Sweden, France and twice from Germany. Like, WTF? They're just supposed to open their arse up to be raped again because of some sht Fker Carlson says on TV? Get a grip dude. The current Ukraine gov are a bunch of Nazis. That's why both Trump and Biden love them. Nah. Who gives AF? Let Ukraine defend itself from itself.
Russia has already violated the Budapest Memorandum, and the rest of the world did nothing.
Not that I'm in favor of the USA doing anything, but really no one can win a war between two nuclear powers.
If the US actually starts to win, Russia will pull the trigger on nukes. I'd imagine the US would do the same thing if they started to lose a war and was on the verge of defeat.
Ukraine is quite a large country. Not like Georgia, so if Putin did invade it wouldn't be easy and quick. He might end up really regretting it.
A few facts that I just now looked up:
An army of 204,000. Not small.
Population: 43, 356, 965
GDP: $155.58 billion
Area: 603,550 sq. kms.
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It's NOT ok for Russia to invade another nation. Duh.
I'm not a Biden "fan" either, but you can't seriously believe Putin is anything but a piece of shit. He's an oligarchist, a dictator and a terrorist who got rich, and keeps getting richer, by controlling government resources. Those who oppose him politically are either disappeared or wind up conveniently dead. He's worse than Trump because he's a lot smarter, and because in Russia he can control the military directly.
Praising Putin as a leader is sick. He'd kill his own mother if it suited him. I wonder if you're really that Jabba guy under a new name. He spread lies, misinformation and propaganda about Trump prior to the election, then suddenly disappeared.According to a Russian friend, there are American consultants in Odessa. I assume as trainers for the new ships and drone technology the United States sent.
If Putin is really callous enough to attack, injure or kill American soldiers on Ukrainian soil, this could become very ugly very fast.The thing is, do they stop him at Ukraine or Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania,
If Russia controls Ukraine it gives them pretty much the full eastern border of Poland.
Also they will no doubt want a corridor to the Kaliningrad Oblast, which put Lithuania in the firing line.
Restoration of the old Soviet republics and full control of old Warsaw Pact countries has always been a desire of Putin.Probably not ok for the Ukrainians.
The US won't get involved. Last time Russia attacked, the US sent the Ukrainians a shipment of cold weather blankets, and that was when Obama was in office. Obama also almost certainly knew that was going to happen in advance and did nothing to warn or fortify Ukraine beforehand, but that's another story that perhaps Medvedev is better equipped to answer.Nobody should be invading anyone. I don't think Russia should be invading any country, but China is the bigger threat. I think Ukraine may be used as a sacrifical lamb for the US to stay in Russia's good graces against China. Pretty much, if anyone starts a war right now and it's not China, they should get crushed. Because China is a global threat right now. We all should all be united against China, and if Russia wants to do something stupid, then they should pay, too.
they've done it before, it's not about "ok", it's about power and control.
whose gonna stop them? USA just blew how much on a 20 year war that produced nothing... our president does not project strength, even if it's posturing threats like trump did. our govt is more dangerous for this reason... absence of strength. a bunch of people may get killed for it...
not ok...Doesn't really make a jot of difference.
You see, if Russia doesn't take it, then the USA or Europe will.
In other words. The world is quartered between China, Russia, USA and Europe. You've got to be in one camp at least. Ukraine was in Europe and Russia's camp. But tried to swap Russia with USA and got pwned.
The life lesson for you kids is that life isn't about choice. It's about knowing what options you really have.Russia and China are competing with us and want to bring Totalitarianism to the World. Russia might as well be China. Though they claimed to have left communism, they elected a KGB officer. They are also still close allies with communist nations. They will only harm Ukraine.
Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine just because it wants to. It would be possible only in three cases
1) If Ukraine would start offensive against Donbass republics
2) If Ukraine would deploy American missiles and US military infrastructure
3) If Ukraine would attack RussiaI don´t think it´s a good idea to let Russia invade Ukraine because it bring back the Cold War sooner or later. Russia isn´t interested in Ukraine for peace reasons but to bring back the Soviet Union.
US doesn't interfere for 7 years, y would they do it now?
Biden is the worst President in history. He is giving up the store every day. Without some sort of conservative uprising, as in Amendment 2, this country is finished.
Hell no! We don't need another war like Afghanistan! And if they do go at it, the USA 🇺🇸 better not spend one penny paying for "their" war.
It definitely would not be OK, but it's not the US' problem (we already have plenty of those).
Yeah, I wonder what your answer would be if you had friends/family living in Ukraine?
I dont care unless it affects America in a negative way
It's not ok. But I don't see America getting involved.
Annexation would be the best way. Don't see it happening though
No but Biden won’t do anything about it and Putin knows it
Too bad Hunter already got the payoff and gave the "Big Guy" his cut. Too bad Ukrainans.
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