As for what should be done? That's simple common sense. Restore vigorous enforcement of the law and hold the perpetrators accountable to the full extent of the law instead of --- at most --- releasing these thugs on a misdemeanor citation instead of arresting them on felony charges and setting a meaningful cash bail.
Yes, laws need to be passed enabling store keepers to shoot thieves that are in their stores. There should be no difference in how much they steal. Shoplifting would disappear overnight.
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Nah your gonna need guns. 1 base ball bat not gonna stop 15 people with crowbars guns and bats.
Your terms are acceptable.
Yeah okay, but I'm trapped in VA on probation for a crime I didn't commit, haven't had a trial for and haven't been convicted of. Some of us in these shit holes didn't vote for it. They literally keep us prisoner and don't let us leave.
@Lost_in_the_Woods sorry to hear that, my guy. I know people who didn't vote for these individuals live all over in these spots too. That is why I said they were suffering because of them.
If I really thought it would work... That the price of letting them destroy eachother was they took me with them, and then the rest of you could be happy, I'd be fine with that. But the problem is, these people are like the settlers in Pocahontas. When there is nothing left here, they will come take what you have. It's not just a bunch of idiots in the streets. It's the rich and powerful using the idiots to take everything from everyone so they have all the power and all the control and nobody else has a choice but to do what they want.They won't stop at destroying the blue states. They are only starting there. When they come for you, there will be no one left to fight back. So I don't really know what to do. But I know we have to work together to do something. But I know a lot of people are. Florida just declared they are forming their own army. Not even joking. 23 states already have one. I'm trying to get out of here and join the effort. But unfortunately it will spread. People need to be getting ready now. I'm not remotely joking when I say buy two guns now while you still can. One for yourself and one for someone who's already had their rights taken away without a trial. They didn't do it to me by accident. They didn't do it to be because I'm someone important. They are starting with the people who see what is really going on so we aren't able to stop them when they come for everybody else.
But, people are pushing back. The whole thing does seem to be falling apart. Biden is down to 22% approval. Half of his voters have already changed their minds about him. They don't stand a chance in the mid terms. And if they say people all voted for Democrats again well... It'll be pretty fucking obvious this time.
We won a big victory here in VA. I'm just waiting to see if that actually changes anything.
Brought to you by the people who call republicans selfish. "I don't care about other people getting robbed and vandalized, I think we should let it happen so long as it doesn't happen to me" Well shit, I don't care about your safety either but I still understand the importance of having police who protect everyone equally.
Let me tell you a little story. When my dad and his friend were of age to legally drink there are as a situation in which the bar was getting robbed. My dad's friend decided to get involved. That's when a man turned around with his Bowie knife, stuck him in the belly and ripped him open from one side to the next. If you need any to share his fate be my guest. In not risking my life over some nonsense like shop lifting. If your life means so little to you and then you do you boo boo. I got better things to do, things I want accomplish first.
Ah, but if you had a gun, you could have shot him in the back from 20 feet away. Ben a big dam hero.Me, I have the Spiderman blanket I had as a little kid hung up on the wall beside my motorcycle.If we really are all in this together, then yeah, I absolutely see how that is my problem. If I like the bar, I want him to make money without raising the prices. I don't want him losing his rent payment to a thief.That said, you are absolutely right to be cautious. You have to know what you are doing and how to react to those situations or you absolutely can and will get yourself hurt.I have been trained by both the DCJS and the local police because I've had a couple of security jobs.But the best way... Is to have a trained police officer with a badge, a gun an vest and a radio. And a good one, preferably not too far away. And all those things cost money. That's what we lose when we defund the police. Lots of innocent people get hurt trying to do the right thing.
@Lost_in_the_Woods dear Lord do I honestly sound this bad when I preach to lefties about gun rights and against sjw nonsense? Perhaps I'll stop. I'm not new to guns, owned them since I was 19, have owned 53 in total throughout the years. Not everyone is going to pick up a gun, you just need to accept it. And lecturing about guns won't bring back a dead man. I also have much more to lose, plus I live in Maryland. Be my guest trying that shit here. You'll be thrown in the slammer and left to rot. Anyways I have a duty to myself and my loved ones first and foremost. Everyone else comes far, far after as they are not my inherent responsibility.
Actually read my comment. Only the first part is about guns. And you're mad because it was true. Nothing can bring back the dead. Common sense and prevention are key.
I honestly thought you were a leftie from the things you say on this and other posts. "My dads friend tried to fight a robber without a weapon and died. Therefore, we should ignore crime and let it happen Instead of doing something about it" "I think we should have trained police officers to handle it" "CRAZY RIGHT WING GUN LECTURE!!! LET THE CRIMINALS GET AWAY WITH IT, ITS NOT MY PROBLEM" Sure, okay. I guess not everyone has seen spider Man. If there had been a good cop or a smart citizen with a gun dude would probably still be alive but whatever. You don't care. I wasn't there. People die everyday and a lot of people are okay with that. 🤷🏼♂️
I'm not a leftie. You're just so far to the right you no longer see transparency. Gun owner. had a gun but couldn't get to it because I hey came in a group. 3 gunman. Someone else would get shot. Even the best screw up. I don't trust a civie to play sheepdog. Just because you add another gun to the equation doesn't guarantee anything. If you know about confrontations then you know a lot of the time if someone gets the drop on you you're basically f*cked. Add 2-3 more guys with weapons drawn it's done. He just didn't see the weapons and he got killed arguably worse than if he'd been shot. In my state what you suggest would be illegal on his part anyways.
Also mad about what? There's nothing to be mad about. Ignorance isn't really something to get worked up about.
"I think we should have trained police officers to handle it"Reading is hard. I'm so far right I voted for Hillary.
I like how you act like I'm stupid when I'm the guy who would have stopped the theft and survived. I don't carry a gun around. But I do think they are useful. If dude tried to fight three guys with guns bare handed that was just fucking Darwinism. 🤣😂🤣
I still think you are a leftie because anyone who thinks we should have cops is a "far right gun extremist"If you think those people are crazy... Try not to quote them every chance you get.
@Lost_in_the_Woods honestly if you're that overconfident then yeah... pretty stupid tbh. He didn't KNOW they were armed and why not? My dad laid out 4 guys in the hospital and one of them was a cop who's arm he broke all while suffering a concussion lmao. "I'm the guy who would have stopped the theft"No, you dont know that and anyone with a brain could tell you that you dont know until after the fact. Guns, knives, extra hands, all come into play. Only a fool would actually believe something like that being concrete. "I still think you are a leftie because anyone who thinks we should have cops is a "far right gun extremist"Voted for Trump twice, member of GOA, carried opened and concealed, been a gun rights advocate since I was a teen. Pro life, pro family, pro marriage, not sure wtf you are talking about. Also I'm still not a "rightie" either because I am not a tribalistic drone. no idea wtf you are talking about. I think the unshaven hillbilly needs to lay off his moonshine, sober up, and take a bath. I think we now know why you got lost in the woods, despite being a few hundred yards from a highway...
First Trump supporter I have met who doesn't understand the concept of police and is afraid of the woods. I would have stopped it. I would have gone outside and called the cops. Not tried to fight three armed guys with my bare hands. First step is to find out if the are armed. Assume everyone is dangerous until you know. That's what the cops do because that's how you avoid getting stabbed to death. Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it doesn't make sense.Call me what you want but I was born in Buffalo, raised by an engineer and statistically there is a 999/1000 chance that I'm smarter than you. We have been over the fact that you don't get my name already. I have a GPS. I'm just don't like to be bothered by idiots.
You are still on this rant about how I couldn't have fought a guy with a knife. I was trained to shoot by an Olympic target instructor and he was impressed when we started. But that is beside the point. Point is I wouldn't have tried to fight them. I would have called the cops unless they started stabbing please. Then I would have shot then. It's not hard to fire three shots before someone can turn, draw and aim.That's the common sense thing to do. You sound like you take after your dad and his friend. Fight cops but not criminals. 🤷🏼♂️
But shit, I'm arguing with a 30 year old emo kid who isn't good at either one so... You're right. I feel pretty stupid about that. Abracadabra, go-suck-your dads-bra. Magic block button for the win.
You're 25 and an idiot. Lmao. And you are going to use a civilian as a backstop? This is why inbreds don't need guns. You should have to take an IQ test first to qualify for ownership. You came on my post starting shit so cry harder. 😂
Never argued against cops this whole time. Someone has issues with their comprehension skills. I love the woods. Unlike you I don't get lost in them however. 🤣
As people attempt to leave, utilize facial recognition and scoop up all BLM/ANTIFA and other criminal elements.
It’s much easier to utilize siege warfare, weaken them and divide them up into small groups that can be interviewed as they exiting the city, than to do urban sweeps and patrols. You need far less manpower and you risk less life.