Should life be made as difficult as possible for the Unvaxed to encourage them to get the jab and quit spreading Covid and endangering us all?

[Anonymous]

Speeders and Drunk Drivers pay more for auto insurance-so should the unvaxed pay more for health insurance

Almost all the "unruly passenger" incidents are MAGA raging about having to wear a mask. Almost all of these are unvaxed. The unvaxed are getting hospitalized from Omicron and, again, hogging space in ERs and ICUs, driving up costs and preventing people with life threatening conditions (other than Covid) from receiving life saving care. The unvaxed should be banned from indoor public spaces and forced to maintain at least 6 feet distance from responsible vaxed citizens. They should not be allowed on public transportation. The Pandemic would have ended but for their idiocy.

[ctgent]

First off, you make general assumption that it is only MAGA people that are unvaxed, the truth is probably the opposite! Also Omicron is far less likely to get you hospitalized! I am a Trump supporter, I am vaxed, and I have had Omicron, the truth of the matter is COVID is going to ne here forever, and is going to constantly mutate, the good news is that it will be less severe each time it mutates! Maybe you should find other sources for you "news" and compare what they are all telling you! The DNR in Michigan has found the 93% of the deer harvested, are infected with COVID and that is the reason the virus will continue to mutate. Since I am vaxed and have had COVID, I am probably better off than most. Also as an American, I feel it a personal choice as to whether or not you get vaccinated, and should always remain a personal choice, because honestly someone trying force you to do something always makes you wonder what the real motive is, nobody should be forced to do anything against there will.

[Asker]

"the truth is probably the opposite"-the use of the word "probably" shows this is just your opinion-what you want to be true because it doesn't upset your fantasy MAGA world view with something messy like "facts".

[ctgent]

You are the one who does not like "facts" you like propaganda!

[Asker]

*yawn*-go suck a ventilator

[msc545]

Yes, it should. Ban them from every public venue and as many private ones as possible.

[Paige90]

I have no problem with the vaccine but what I do have a problem with is the mandate! Also, those that got the vaccine are also getting tested positive for Covid so the vaccine doesn't work as well as it was supposed to.

[CarolineW]

The vaccine is not designed to stop you catching Covid. It's to make the symptoms much milder if you do catch it

[Aerissa_Jade]

Well vaccinated people can spread it too, so maybe we should make life for everyone who spreads it, not just the unvaccinated.

[Asker]

but the unvaxed are the ones requiring hospitalization and thus clogging the system from those more worthy ill who didn't inflict it on themselves from stupidity

[Aerissa_Jade]

You mentioned spread, I pointing out that anyone can spread it. But hey if you want people to get vaccinated, ask Biden to remove the blanket legal immunity that Trump put in to protect the manufacturers from lawsuits if someone gets severe side effects.

Can't really say, its safe but then put in blanket legal immunity if the worst does happen. People believe the legal immunity over anything and everything anyone says with their mouth. Actions speak louder than words.

Go for it ban them all, lets get the civil war started and on with.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Vaccines limit the probability of spreading the disease but if enough people are vaccinated, you can have herd immunity where the disease can't spread among the population.

[BillyBalls]

@Ad_Quid_Orator Almost 70% of the population is vaxxed.
Over 50 million people have had the virus.

So the number of people who have either immunity via the vax or actually having the virus is near herd level.

And this past week, Covid infections are at a all time high.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Because it mutated into strains that vaccinations and prior experience are less effective against. You want to prevent that: get as many people vaxxed as possible and deny the virus chances to mutate.

[BillyBalls]

The vaxxed can spread the virus to those who are vaxxed. So when will the virus stop mutating even when everyone vaxxed?

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

@BillyBalls Wow you like to deal in absolutes don't you -_-

People are less likely to spread the virus if vaccinated so it has fewer opportunities to mutate. If more people had gotten vaccinated in the first place, there would have been fewer chances for the virus to mutate.

[OnKoing]

How do we cope?

This is a very interesting article and worth the read:


The question posed here is not simple to answer.
The vaxers (got 2 and maybe booster) will hopefully outnumber the anti-vaxers anyway. That makes it a situation, which should rectify itself.
Devil's advocate says:
You cannot treat someone differently because they can't cope with a vaccination of some description, you should therefore not remove a basic human right of freedom based on that.

[Citizenkirk]

No. I think we should send miniaturized paratroopers with high-powered directed energy weapons into people's bodies to fight the covid disease one cell at a time like in that movie where they sent those people in that tiny ship into the president's brain.

[AviatorTom]

Great suggestion. Raquel Welch can lead another "Fantastic Voyage"

[Citizenkirk]

Good idea! And another 10,000 BC soft porn debacle 🤤🤫

[Avicenna]

Why go anonymous to make that cowardly rant?

If anyone needs to have life made difficult for them, it’s the totalitarians that want to harass and do who knows what else to those who choose not to take an experimental vaccine. What will you call for next, mass murder?

[HighValue]

Lots of the vaccinated are dying.
I think the vax pushers that support the mandates should all die. They deserve it for what they push onto others.
The only people I personally know that have got very ill or died are all vaccinated people. the unvaccinated ones are doing just fine this whole time.

[AviatorTom]

Why do you ask this as Anonymous? Are you afraid to publicly make comments and ask a question that you know, in advance, is going to be contentious?

FYI... both vaccinated and unvaccinated are getting the omicron variant, and some of each are needing hospitalization. This whole SAR2/COVID thing is not as simple as you make it out to be.

[Anonymous]

I might have agreed with you six months ago, but the vaccine isn't particularly effective against the Omicron variant. Whereas it was roughly 80% effective against Delta, it's only about 40% effective against Omicron. See page 13 of this UK study:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1043608/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_51.pdf

[Dargil]

Nope. It's called Liberty. Who decides who makes someone's life miserable? You?
There is nothing in your rant that you can support with facts.

[Asker]

www.bloomberg.com/.../
www.google.com/url

file:///C:/Users/dmgst/AppData/Local/Temp/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated. pdf

[Dargil]

Bloomberg and Google. Fake news.

[Asker]

*yawn*-same old MAGA sh*t when they are faced with FACTS-they scream "fake news". You're BORING.

[Dargil]

But neither tells the truth. They alter it to fit their narrative. None the less, your fascist control idea (Should life be made as difficult as possible) is still nonsense.

[Asker]

lol-you don't even know what the word means dumbass

[jshm2]

No. The unvaxxed suffer from chronic stupidity. But if we drive them underground then they'll just come up with fake certificates and other issues to make life more problematic as a result.

They need a special kind of help.

[FunkyMonkee]

No, you bunch of Karens are already making life hell on Earth and hasn't changed our minds, only dumbed down yours!

https://www.youtube.com/embed/ce0F0MyyV18

[Redstang88]

Well that’s pretty much the case already
And the vaccines clearly don’t do a damn thing, population is +90% here and we’re setting record case numbers. Try again

[Anonymous]

We should have a dual economy or split the country up.


The unvaxxed pay taxes for these Obama care users.

And saying you don't like unvaxxed people means you are pro separation and hate blacks and brown.

Who are the highest unvaxxed in the country?


Wow your racist

[noohair]

Everyone I know with covid was vaxed. And your life must be troubled because you have a crippled mind. You would make a good Nazi.

[Brendan24]

I think that life should be equal just cause you made a decision for your health doesn't mean anything

[Asker]

Their decision affects everyone's' health and safety and lives. Covid would have died out after the lockdown if these idiots had gotten vaxed. They are free to make that decision but the inconvenience from these things will encourage them to do the right thing. Further, they impose huge costs on the health care system-why should the rest of us be forced to subsidize their stupidity? Additionally, they keep people having strokes, accidents, etc. from getting needed care because they are choking the hospitals with their unvaxed Covid selves, blocking legitimate patients from care.

[Brendan24]

Before 2019 when you got a flu shot were you blaming the unvaccinated when you got sick
There is a 3 percent chance of getting covid the pandemic wasn't based on a virus it was the fear that caused the pandemic. Im not saying you should or shouldn't take the vaccine that is completely up to the person but to make someones life shit just cause of a decision to protect themselves (whether it does or doesn't the outcome is not what im focused on im more so saying in the eyes of the unvaccinated they believe they are doing so to protect themselves) why punish them
Vaccines dont come without risks some people gotta make a decision to make some just do it cause they believe it works (which for them it mostly does) and some believe it'll do more harm (again they are right as well)
there's also other ways to prevent and cure yourself from covid so just cause they dont take the shot doesn't mean they're just being careless

[BeMuse]

You're a moron. You've lost the war. Just commit seppuku. What are you waiting for?

[BeMuse]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT31NPGzmig

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[bgreek]

This is the USA
And not chi-commie, or Venezuelan
if it were, i say round up all the people that are democrat
And send them to a FEMA camp to be re-eduactaed

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

The first vaccine mandate in world history was passed here in the US back in 1809.

[bgreek]

@Ad_Quid_Orator
but was there ever a threat to be fired
If you didn't get the vaccine

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

You had to get vaccinated for smallpox or the government wouldn't enforce a contract between the employee and employer. You could still work odd jobs but the government wouldn't enforce the agreement between you and the person paying you.

[bgreek]

@Ad_Quid_Orator
And your point
I can't wait til the mid terms
When the Republicans take back the
House, Senate, and best of all
Biden and Harris get impeached

[Recurrence]

I think life should be improved for vaccinated people instead.

[joeldalton]

Wasn’t your life improved by the promise you wouldn’t get covid? Whoopsie.

[Recurrence]

@joeldalton I mean like small perks. Like 5% off at Walmart or like a $50 monthly deposit into a bond

[joeldalton]

Must not be a good vaccine if you need to be bribed to take it.

[Asker]

don't tempt him to get the vaccine-Joel deserves and has earned Covid. Of course when he is hospitalized they will say "we need to remove the equipment-he's brain dead" but his mental health worker will explain that is not because he is dead-he always shows no brain activity

[joeldalton]

Lmao…hate to disappoint you, but I already had and recovered from covid. It was no big deal. Sorry doomer.

[Asker]

@joeldalton of COURSE you already had it-and of COURSE you'll get it again because you don't learn!

[joeldalton]

Lol, of course I won’t because I have immunity, retard.

[Asker]

@joeldalton and it doesn't last. Its why vacccines need boosters and why idiots like you will get it again. But you go shoot up some horse dewormer and you'll be just fine Joel!. (snark)

[joeldalton]

You put the word ‘snark’ in parenthesis? Gay. Yeah, you need boosters because you took shitty shots that are failures. My immunity is robust and long lasting. It’s been 17 months, and I don’t follow any covid rules. I’ve been around people with covid. No problem here. Good try.

[Asker]

@joeldalton prove it and go suck on a ventilator hose (just use the same technique you use at public bathrooms)

[joeldalton]

Homo, you’re not even making sense.

[Asker]

@joeldalton you seem obsessed with homosexuality. Its a major part of almost all your posts. Come out of the closet Joel-living a lie is what is fueling your rage.

[joeldalton]

You’re projecting. Is that what you and all your gag friends do?

[Asker]

@joeldalton Sorry Joel, I'm not interested in you. You're dull and a dullard and despite many fem traits you are not female. Just bugger off.

[joeldalton]

Oh, the guy who uses “snark” is pretending to be straight. Hilarious.

[fireforeffect]

If you have been vaccinated, and the vaccine works, how can the unvaccinated harm you?

[Asker]

clogging ERs blocking out people who have strokes, accidents, etc. Driving up insurance costs to cover the unvaxed hospitalizations. That's just for starters.

[fireforeffect]

You have not answered the question.

[Asker]

yes I did-they harm us by driving up insurance costs and blocking legitimate patients. I guess you needed it explained in language suitable for children

[notwoke]

I'm super right leaning, but the far right has it wrong with this anti vax mindset. We now know that 25% of the population has shit for brains

[ShadezMcgee]

Hmm, sounds more like coercion to me.

[Massageman]

not responding to anons