If a rape victim commits suicide what should the penalty be for the rapist, their actions directly resulted in the suicide? (Page 2)
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Judge ruling is still human interpretation of the law. I’m betting this would be added on to punishment decisions in cases with undeniable proof.
"The justice system does not seem focused on victims, there is a high concern for the rights of the accused (which everyone supports) but little concern for life-long effects for victims." The purpose of the justice system is to verify the crime was committed and enact the appropriate penalty on the perpetrator so of course they will be more concerned with the rights of the accused. It should be the function of the social security system to see to it that the victim gets the help that they need (and in my opinion, the evidence that a victim would need to qualify for it should be less than would be needed for a conviction). And that help would include things like a medical leave, paid for stay at a womens' shelter and counseling sessions to facilitate recovery.
There isn't much of a support network for victims, sure there is a little but it is often treated like it is at temporary problem when victims don't ever get over it, they carry it with them forever.
And I believe something should be done to expand the support network for victims. What I was saying is that the justice department's duty is to see that the perpetrator sees justice and it's the social security departments' job to see that the victim of a crime gets the support that they need.
Even without the victim committing suicide the rapist should at the very least be in prison for the rest of their life.
Tough one. I think rape should be up there with murder anyway. But not sure there’s legal standing to blame the suicide on the rapist. Just being academic. I’d stone the rapist myself.
The same as any rape.
If I tell someone they're a piece of filth and the next day they hang themselves, that's not on me.
Like it or not, they decided to do the suicide, not the rapist.
At the end of the day, we're still responsible for our own actions. The rape is one action, the suicide is another.
That's just my opinion anyway. This is a pretty emotional subject, I'm just approaching it as logically I can.
Should at least get assist points.
People convicted with rape and with plenty of hard evidence should never get out.
im all for having life with parole for one rape, and life without parole for multiple rapes.
im against the death penalty on principle.
What? He didn't make her commit suicide, that's a crime she should be held responsible taking her own life... He's only responsible for the rape so he should get the prison penalty time for a standard rapeHe did not kill her. She didThat's like saying, if I say no to a girl who wanted to go out with me.. and she later commited suicide.. I am responsible for her killing herself and I'm now a murderer? You should use logic with these things instead of your feelings. It doesn't make sense to charge someone for a crime they didn't do
What crime are you doing by saying no to someone who wanted to go out? did you assault her in her most intimate parts when saying no?
Otherwise your comparison is false and null.
You should try getting to know some rape victims first to see how they go from being mentally stable before the attack to unstable as a result of it.
Otherwise you are speaking like someone who has never known the trauma of being a rape victim, there is no greater trauma out there. Reporting the crime, not being believed, being bullied and threatened can often lead to ending ones life over it, because it feels like your life is already over from the attack, no reason to go on.
No other crime has this kind of effect.
Although in general none of this matters if rapists get life sentences, no enhancement needed.
The rapist (if proved with clue) will be going to prison because of the rape but he would face nothing if his victim commit suicide. (of if the rape victim commit suicide before the judgement then he would surely face a longer jail sentence).
The same as the punishment for a woman when she drives a man to suicide because she stole his kids with false accusations and/or took around 70% of his money plus ongoing wages in a divorce.
perfect punishment: lock the criminal on a chair in a room together with the victim's relatives for 1h, purge time
I am unable to respond to this question, I am a man and cannot even begin to relate to what being a victim of Rape would be like... Peace...
Both the rapist and the judge who failed to punish the rapist should be jailed for 10 years and than given the death penalty.
The judge should also be given 10 years and death penalty? If rape isn’t proven then why should the judge punish the accused?
Do you think anyone who is simply accused of rape should be given death even without any proof?
No. He should only be convicted for the crimes he committed though personally I think rapists and peados should be walled up in their cell until the day they die.
I reckon it's fair for them to be charged with first degree Manslaughter.
I have a pretty low opinion of rapists. the simple solution would be nut removal.
This would be a horrible can of worms to open up. I wouldn't be for adding additional charges, but I'm also against soft sentencing for rapist IF it's a rock solid case.
It's to be considered culpable homicide and dealt with in that manner I feel.
No, because the suicide is downstream of the crime.
It would be dangerous to inteoduce such a principle into law.
I fail to see how further penalizing the rapist is supposed to help the victim.
It doesn't help the victim as they are now dead, It makes it harder for them to get out. Since rape sentences can be pretty pathetic, enhancing it keeps society safer from them for longer. It keeps them from killing someone else indirectly when they get out and rape again.
Of course if rapists get a life time sentence, no chance of getting out, no need for this.