Series of questions for Men's Rights Activists?

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Why do you complain about nobody recognising female on male rape, yet congratulate the victims of such cases? Also, you do realise that such cases are nowhere near as common as the reverse, right?
You DO realise that false rape/abuse accusations are incredibly rare, right?
Why do you say "Not All Men" when a woman speaks up, yet call any man who takes her side a simp?
Why do you complain about not being allowed to show emotions, yet make fun of other men who do?
Why do you condemn women for virgin shaming when it's done predominantly by men? Where do you get off calling male feminists gender traitors?
Why do you automatically assume men only become feminists because they either hate themselves for being men or are trying to get laid?
Where do you get off sympathizing with Incels when they have killed 60+ people, seriously injured countless others and are responsible for at least 15 acts of violence?
If MGTOW are serious about "going their own way", why do they spend most of their efforts banging on about "dose evil wimminz"?
Why do you deny the existence of Toxic Masculinity when it's the root cause of most systemic issues men go through?

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

- Congratulating victims for what?

- Wrong. When we take prison rape into account, it happens to men more often than women outside of prison. This counts because being raped is not considered a part of the punishment for committing a crime and it is not always by another man. Research has shown that nearly 62% of all reported incidents of staff sexual misconduct involved female staff with male inmates (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/254243439_Preventing_fatal_attractions_Lessons_learned_from_inmate_boundary_violators_in_a_southern_penitentiary_system ). It seems that rape is just crimes by individuals against individuals and not some conspiratorial act against women as the term "rape culture" would lead some to believe.

- It doesn't matter how rare they are. It is not a reason to throw away someone's right to due process.

- First of all, I really don't see how "not all men" is a bad argument as it is true that not all men think the same way. Second, I don't think that argument goes far enough. It really should be "So few men do that, that it is disgusting that you make it out to be that their behavior, in any way, reflects the actions of the average man".

As for simps, the word is constantly misused. The word simp was made to refer to men who kiss the ass of women who obviously don't give a shit about them. That's it.

- We don't make fun of other men who do. Where does this notion come from?

- Because one of the most common non-arguments feminists pull when they cannot argue against a point is to call the person an incel so that's a loaded question. I have never heard of the term "gender traitor" when referred to male feminists although I have heard the term being used against Harvey Weinstien's female lawyer for doing her job.

- Why else would you join a cult that constantly spews war propaganda against your entire gender? Because you'd mistakenly think that claiming to be "one of the good ones" would gain you favor among women in general.

Most of what heterosexual men do in their lives are done in hopes of gaining favor among women. Achieving high positions like CEOs or getting PHDs because women go after men of status and their ability to provide, becoming physically fit because women seek men for their ability to protect them and finally learning how to be stoic because women seek men for their ability to be leaders. So if a guy thinks he can gain women's desire for him by being a feminist, he will do that.

- Because incel does not equal terrorist. Similar to "not all men", you compare all 15 (although I thought it was 7 but maybe I am thinking of the total from the last 10 years) incels of the 100k+ that took up a subreddit alone. Alec Menassian, Elliot Rodger, Anders Behring Breivik all three of those examples have had abusive mother figures that ranged from psychological, neglect and physical abuse. There is a pattern to these attacks and again, acting like they are all going to do this is extremely disingenuous. Imagine how quickly feminists would call society to a screeching halt if the media ever dared to come out to say "women who can't have sex with men are terrorists".

- Because they are angry much of the same way feminists are. A woman has screwed them over in family court and took everything they had, a woman abused them and there was no legal recourse for them or a woman raped him as a child and got pregnant and is now legally obligated to pay child support for that child (Hermesmann v. Seyer). The only difference between MGTOW and feminism is that the "oh those durn whamminz" is the worst they are going to do. Feminist have made no secret that they want to control the world to their will as much as, if not more than, their delusions told them men were in the past.

- Toxic masculinity does not exist. In fact, it is a total lie about how men behave. Have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe men have issues because the world has identified them as the root cause of the world's suffering? It is classic victim shaming and repugnant opportunism. "Whats that? You lost everything and now your oh-so-faithful wife has left you for the next dick to ride because you don't have money or a job anymore? It's actually the historical repression of women and what's really getting you down is the toxic male attitude towards women. Problem solved!"

DaveJord · Accepted Answer

False rape/abuse accusations - Unfortunately false rape charges are not all the uncommon... they just not called that. They are just rape cases that can not be proven or disproven or even fairly investigated.

"Not All Men"- Men are sexually manipulated by women all the the time... its just not considered as rape or sexual abuse... the man is just thought of as a dumbass.

Show Emotions- Women get upset and cry and everyone is supposed to step back and respect her feelings and show compassion... but a guy gets upset and he is an asshole. Like his feelings are less than her because he is not crying and if he does cry he's just a pansy whimp. How does a man claim emotional abuse and get any sympathy?

virgin shaming - is that really a thing? I think its a false false equivalence... basically anyone at any time can calm being shamed when it something they disagree with or lack any real argument or rational or desire to confront the truth or take responsibility for themselves.

Men becoming Feminists - I think men have promoted women rights for a long time... but that does not make them Feminists. It just that we are on the 3rd to 4th generation of Feminists now and original movement has already accomplished all the goals it set out to accomplish so people are grasping at straws now.

Toxic Masculinity-is definitely real and men are feed up with it.

Throaway1234 · Answer

"Also, you do realise that such cases are nowhere near as common as the reverse, right?"

More men are the victims of rape than women when you adjust for the prison population. But prison rape is a joke and meme, because it involves male victims.

"You DO realise that false rape/abuse accusations are incredibly rare, right?"

According to who? A feminist crackpot organization that hates men and has a preconceived bias before the study is even conducted? And those who stretch out the definition of rape to include buyer's remorse (a slut feels regret the next day), catcalling and staring too long

"Why do you condemn women for virgin shaming when it's done predominantly by men? Where do you get off calling male feminists gender traitors?"

They're more cowards than traitors. They don't really believe what they say. They are trying to give feminist approved opinions to game women through the back door, by appearing more relatable and "not like other guys"

"Where do you get off sympathizing with Incels when they have killed 60+ people, seriously injured countless others and are responsible for at least 15 acts of violence?"

Over 50% of the male population 18-34 has gone sexless in the last 12 months. They meet the definition of an Incel. You want to take 60 people and extrapolate that to 100 billion people? I guess we should assume all female teachers rape little boys because there have been far more than 60 of those.

"If MGTOW are serious about "going their own way", why do they spend most of their efforts banging on about "dose evil wimminz"?

Maybe because they were divorce raped - had their children, their house, half their income and their pension ripped away by a deviant, lying female?

"Why do you deny the existence of Toxic Masculinity when it's the root cause of most systemic issues men go through?"

And there's the icing on the cake. Using nonsensical buzzwords like "systemic" to feign concern for men's issues while turning all of their own problems back on them, and using sexist terms like "toxic masculinity" to imply that men's sex hormones that drive them to compete are dirty and need to be perfected or washed.

It is FEMALE PRIVILEGE that is systemic and I just gave you an example of divorce court, child support, alimony, and custody. And disproportionate sentencing. And shorter lifespans. And workplace injuries. Should I go on?

Just admit that you're a misandrist who hates men instead of being so long winded next time. You really should be ashamed of yourself.

MCheetah · Answer

Dude... You are not enough of a man for anyone to give a fuck what you have to say. MY question to you would be, why do you soyboys and spineless pussies for "males" always speak about BS like "toxic masculinity" and such, with the arrogance, confidence, and bravado of the men you claim to despise? It's like you're worthy of absolutely NO respect whatsoever, evident that you're too ashamed to even be a man, yet think anyone is supposed to give a fuck what you have to say as soon as you utter some nonsense like "toxic masculinity."

Half of this utter dogshit you wasted your time typing are just strawmen. But who gives a shit. I seriously cannot ever understand the cognitive dissonance of non-males and Y-chromosome feminists unironically "manslaining" as if anyone takes them the least bit seriously in any capacity. It's like, congratulations, you're a pussy. Stop acting like you're not one. Stop pretending like anyone is supposed to do anything but ignore you or laugh at you for failing to be the basic thing your sex requires you to be (without even being a transwoman or anything).

TL;DR: No one gives a shit, dude. You are a nobody.

NaultD · Answer

Misery loves company. Male activism is basically just a long whataboutism. It's guys disenfranchised by life but willingly become punching bags to protect the very people that disenfranchised them in the first place.

"Just another day, month, year, decade I'll be that millionaire playboy, but feminism is the only thing stopping me."

Guys like this are so focused on these imaginary dilutions they don't see how much agency they have directly in front of them on a day to day level. You need to focus on that day to day agency and maximize it the best you can to get that millionaire playboy life or even halfway will get way ahead for a better all-around life.

blissinanarchy1 · Answer

False accusations of rape are not rare at ALL. Testimony alone can convict, and most tried are convicted. I was falsely accused myself. Allegation was that it was consensual at first, she took consent away in the middle of sex (without saying no or stop), that I pinned her down, she fought me off, started riding me, gave me head, and that I fingered her against her will (While she showed me how, like that makes sense). There was even a sex tape, and she admitted we frequently had rough sex just like that. I STILL got charged. Bail was set so high and covid kept pushing trial back so I did 18 months before being found innocent. 18 months because of that cunt.

Anonymous · Answer

Well Hun because you're clearly a woman or maybe just maybe a 12 year old boy, still innocent before you get tarred with that same brush of being a unrecovererable man

To which the feminists are of course planning to kill all of, beyond a few kept back to be milked for the rebreeding program

You could solve thinks another way with such mindless violence of a multi-billion person genocide, put the men and women into 2 walled off separate continents say Europe/Africa and the Americas to prevent any form of interaction from either side

Anonymous · Answer

First of all... the same me. who “congratulate” male rape victims, mock virgins, mock guys who show emotions, and the rest of it are NOT the same men who fight for the opposite.

Second... sexual assault including rape is less than 1/1000 as per the bureau of justice statistics. The gold star in crime stats. This includes the estimated “90%” feminist suggest “don’t come forward”
But does NOT remove the 40% of rape accusations which end up being false.
Which if men were taken seriously as victims could easily meet that same number.

In regards to MGTOW... the majority of actual MGTOWs only fight back against sexist bullshit. They don’t go making new shit. You are again bundling the real people with the trolls.

GlassTop · Answer

There aren’t many Mens rights activists. You just have men who hate neo feminism which is just misandry. Men aren’t complaining about their rights. The only thing i’ve seen be a big issue is high favortism towards women in divorce and child custody. Men should NEVER have to pay $20,000 a month to his divorced wife just because he was rich. Women should not easily get child custody and force men to pay for kids. Men should have rights when it comes to having a child.

IMuser · Answer

Often, the people who are supporting the MGTOW agenda AND the people who are judging men for the various things you have described are different

Have you ever encountered an individual who supports MGTOW yet goes against it?

Anonymous · Answer

I will respond to your barrage of questions with one simple question: Why do you, as a woman, feel the need to pretend to be a man on GAG?

Anonymous · Answer

I'm used to men posing as women with fake accounts. I almost missed this one. Not often that a woman posts as a man

Anonymous · Answer

You are obviously a feminist woman, and you are a great example of why men hate feminists.

Slartybartfast · Answer

So many assumptions..

Waldoe · Answer

Why are you so determined to Bash men?

joeldalton · Answer

Oh Jesus.

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