There are men who have housewives, even when they can't afford it. I have a coworker who supports his wife and daughter on a minimum wage salary. He complains of financial troubles all the time. he's not a happy man.
Don't think that just because a man has a housewife, then it means he can afford it. Frequently it comes at a cost of their children's college savings. If mom didn't work, then it means there is less money for kids to go to college. There are plenty of households who don't have a college savings for their children. There are plenty of households who do not have an emergency savings fund (take a look at what happened during the pandemic. Pandemic was only 1 year, and the vast majority of americans have run out of money. People didn't even have enough money to cover one year's worth of expenses. They live paycheck to paycheck and cannot afford an unexpected additional $500 bill).
It all boils down to priority. Do you want to prioritize having a housewife over your children's college savings? Its all up to you.
College is the least of the concern. Housewives are only for men who bring in a significant amount of money in so that if something goes wrong there's a safety net.
Medium to poor men, one major bad break as he gets seriously ill and can't work for months, layed off and can't find work to match is custom salary then ish can hit the fan real quick.
I think getting injured or seriously ill isn't the worst because usually when that happens, the housewife goes looking for a job. But the worst part is when kids hit 18 and have absolutely no money to go to college, which means the cycle of being "broke " will continue for generations.
Usually, housewives do not tend to be educated. Women who have invested a lot into their education / careers do not tend to be housewives' long term. But when housewives return back to work, its usually menial jobs such as waitressing, home care aides, daycare assistants, cashiers.
A lot of the people on GAG are from the south, Midwest, rural parts of the country where family, housewifery, coming homing home to see the kids on a daily basis matter more than financial stability. In every city you go to, a different culture exists. Only in places such as NYC, LA, dallas TX, area the only places where education, career prospects, financial stability takes precedence over family. In the south or mid west, people marry much younger + much less financially stable.
Well the wife's need to be realistic and fine ways to save a buck. Not blow off the cash. Their are way for example cutting out coupons, buying second hand items. Instead of spend over $100 of dollars on cosmetics get it at the dollar store for $1.25 I don't understand why the need to spend so much. Buy clothing at yard sales of course at a cheap price. It's always a good idea hording money. I was able to get out of debt in less then two years. Also cook at home at all times I don't see the need to at out. No need to live in a huge fancy house I had friends that bought mobile homes for the faction of the price.
1%. Maybe even less. Yes, it's that bad not being in America or in Europe.
i don't aim for housewives. I Just spent my entire paycheck on a surgery for my back and it's not going to be the last one. my parents were so poor and maxed out their debts, that it all imploded on me with the finances. Hence i work 2 jobs. Also Losing my second job in April.
in my situation housewives and lazy women need not to apply. I ate away my Salary and spent the rest of my money on professional healthcare. Medics don't work for free. I'd like a teammate, not another liability.
I mean I'm single right now and I'm doing all the above any way I cook enough food for an army so that's not really an added cost the only added costs would be insurance would be school clothes and daily needs which aren't that bad I don't think I mean I've done it before as matter fact you cost me more at the very end then it did all the way through what time do we are together LOL but I mean it can't be done
Anybody can because the government give you money of you have kids and if you're jobless. I know many single women who have 4 kids (generally from different men...) and they're always jobless and they have no problem they live many years like this. In my country if you're older than 25 and jobless government give you money, you have a house for free, you don't have to pay any taxes and you can get food for free and if you have children then they also give you money for helping raisins them so in general a lot of single mother doesn't work cause they earn around the same things by working and not working so they rather just spend time with their kids and not working.
that have more than 6 children, the man work minimum wage generally, the wife don't work and they have plenty of kids. Our government give tons of money for kids so everyone can have kids and a housewife.
France, here government give lots of money to people (French like to complain a lot that they don't get enough money but if for example you work part time or earn less than the minimum wage then the government give you some money). For example I used to work during 6 months 3 hours a days 6 days a week, I earned less than 500 euros and when I got unemployed I earned more money than when I was working, I earned less than 500 euros working (I earned around 450 euros and when I got unemployed the government gave me during 6 months more than 500 euros). So I stayed unemployed during 6 months since it was more beneficial for me.
They give more to immigrant, immigrant have all health stuff for free while French have to pay for it (not everything but we have to pay a part of it while immigrant get all for free but only if they're immigrant of war or stuff like that). For others immigrants they can get it but they have to ask for it.
Why? It's a great things (except the giving to the immigrant) but if not it's a really great stuff people are actually protesting cause the government want to force people to do small job for earning this money (the one they give to the jobless people). People want to keep getting free money every months without doing anything cause they either can't find a job or are lazy or just cause sometime they earn more being jobless than actually working (since the minimum is so low).
When my ex-wife had our first child, she became a stay-at-home mom and stayed that way until our youngest was in high school. It was a struggle, but I was able to support our family. After 20 years of marriage, we divorced amicably, having raised a family of 3 kids, now grown.
I can, but will I be happy about it? I am technically not fine with a partner who does not have a money-earning job or business, but if it comes to that, I still better be able to afford my hobbies on top. Family are responsibility, hobbies are relaxation. Both are necessity in my book.
My husband doesn't make much but can easily afford me staying home with our 3 kids. It's not as difficult as others make it seem. We are just good with our money. Don't overspend/buy useless stuff and this should be easy for anyone to do.
Omg no I don't live anywhere rural 😂 I live in one of the most populated cities in my state... but we move every few years. His pay changes depending on the place so it's doesn't matter where we live
@Jamie05rhs nah we just get housing allowance. Someone can choose to live in a very expensive house if they were willing to pay more than the allowance. Also someone can live somewhere super cheap and save their money. All depends on what they want. On base though they take all the money which really sucks for how shitty of houses they offer but it's more convenient to live close to work
@Apple1996 Then that means it's free. They give you housing allowance, and they take it back, while providing you a house to live in. + + - = 0. (AKA Free)
@Jamie05rhs yeah the issue is that even tho it's free most of those that are in the service never get to pay off a house this way cause of the frequent moves so later on down the road they offer VA home loans but still doesn't make up for the time wasted on not being able to have their own home when it's important like when raising a family. It's a shit trade off. People who get to have a normal job and pay off their house have it better.
You can definitely afford to have a housewife with low wage. You just won’t live comfortably. Most would rather have their own home and make enough money to buy a few cars, have nice furniture, TVs, a bunch of kitchen stuff, and the rest. Most likely that won’t happen, you’ll be sharing an apartment or living with parents, and eating cheap foods. Guys would rather be able to take care of their girl with plenty of money to buy her nice things.
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The idea of a stay at home housewife was only ever a middle/upper middle class thing as most working class women were out working in between pregnancies. The 1950- 70s were a peak time for the stay at home wife as stuff like vacuums, dishwashers, washer dryers, ready cook meals and so on meant there was very little to be done around the home.
You younger woman all you do is flirt have sex with multiple man you don't know how to cook , clean you always eat out fast food which is very unhealthy for the human body and yet still I don't understand why 30 year old man want you younger girls.
@Alwayreckles93 i dated young girls and they are capable to cook and clean and do homemaking duties just fine. My girlfriend is 19 and puts all these 30s and 40s supposed homemakers to shame half the time.
@bamesjond0069 I find that hard to believe a 40 year old woman washed clothes cooks fresh home made dish and cleans and raised the kids. A 19 year old woman all she does is eat McDonald's.
@Alwayreckles93 Sweetie, your profile says you are just 21 yourself and already divorced. You also seem to struggle to express yourself in a coherent manner. Maybe you're not the best person to give others advice on successful relationships?
@JustiReno typically used interchangeable in america. A housewife is often thought of as a homemaker. A homemaker may just be a girlfriend but unmarried. Not totally different concepts.
Definitely not, can barely afford to take care of myself here. That’s not for lack of income, a shitty condo here is easy 600k. Double that to even to even start thinking about a detached house
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My wife stayed home for11 years when my kids were little. and we lived on one income. When they were in college there is no way we could have done it.
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My dad is currently unemployed, therefore my mom's the one paying everything in that list. He cooks for us, does the laundry. I have a sibling and we both help with chores of course. Yeah, it's possible if you earn a bit more than the minimum.
I currently have a full time homemaker. Pay all the bills. Honestly in my opinion its easily affordable. Do everything financial under one person and one budget its a lot cheaper for many things and efficient.
Hispanic cool guy My ex had aurguments with me because he had your same mindset I made his lunch and dropped it off at his work his answer your not my nanny or my mom. Why?
@Alwayreckles93: I never said you shouldn't be available to your husband nor help him out but your mind is too focused on cooking and cleaning. It's not a good work. Either you are a wife or a servant and butler.
Your husband got tired of seeing you acting like a maid. He didn't desire his wife to look like that at least no reasonable good man will.
The judge even laugh and told us that we were unusual couple. He got involved in e and he was expecting me to wear that expensive $40 foundation when I can get it for $1 or $1.25 now. He choose the fancy house not me I wanted a mobile home he said it he felt ashamed little things. I am not a cheap person or think that I am a maid lol. I just think the wife needs to be understanding to the husband.
@Alwayreckles93: Like I told you I think you are a good woman hon, I just don't want you to see yourself as a maid when you had the status of a wife. You're aren't a servant nor butler, but a wife.
God didn't create woman to be servants to their husband but rather as a helper to the man.
You come off as if you are suffering from low esteem and view yourself less than and just want to cook and clean all day.
Genesis 2:18 And the LORD God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.”
I love cleaning , I've been doing it ever since I can remember. Sir I was abused as a child my mom would go out drink have fun while I was left home taking care of my youngest siblings I clean and cook. Cooking is a very important skill in life in order to survive. Lol
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy how are you any different than a man telling a woman her place is in the kitchen? you're still bossing women around telling them what you think they should be doing
She can do whatever she desires as she's a grown woman.
I was just letting her know she's no slave of a husband as God didn't put woman on earth for that purpose but rather to be a helper/sidekick to her husband.
There's far more to life than being stuck in a house 24/7 cooking and cleaning. You know that.
What assistance do you think a husband needs? Someone to help him make money because he's failing at his role? Someone to make money to get fancy things so they can be materialistic? What is a wife supposed to do to help? Seems obvious to me and people for thousands of years.
Typically they worked in the home. They would work in THEIR field they would make clothes for THEIR family. They didn't typically go apprentice as a blacksmith under some other man. That was never historically normal. And most men can afford it, they just dont want to because they are materialistic. Even if most men can't afford it, which i dont believe, many men can. Who said it has to apply to every single person in the world? Ridiculous.
@bamesjond0069: You have no idea what you're talking about.
Women worked in the fields owned by other rich people as poor people didn't own ish or they sold food and clothing in the marketplaces which is outside the home in the open square (popular areas)
And get on a plane and go visit 3rd world slums, there's no way in hell those men in total 💩 economy can provide for a family all on their own.
Hell they struggle just to eat alone much less other little things they need for the family.
Selling something in the marketplace is individual. And done on ones own. It is not the same as working a job with a boss. There is certainly gray area however never was it normal for a woman to work under another mans guidance who was not her husband or close family member.
@bamesjond0069: Another bull. Women in ancient days worked for the king in his palace, worked for owners of fields which only the rich had, worked for the queen etc. And guess you who was in charge? Rich men.
You just have this twisted silly idea that this world is ideal and Peter Pan land.
As i said above not all. A vast majority. You really think the average woman worked for the king in his palace? Smh. A king could have a lot of workers but lmao the whole country didn't work in his palace. Nonsense. Fyi there were hobags in every era. Most of these women didn't have husbands. They were the kings or lords property.
@bamesjond0069: You don't know what the hell You are talking about man.
You think life is black and white and see it through your own silly and ideal perspective.
You don't know the hell and how difficult it is to survive in this cold, dark and broken world especially from a impoverished country.
The struggle is intense for the immense majority of the population of the world that live on in some cases less than a dollar a day.
@alwayreckles93: He sees life as a ideal place. It's like a fantasy world to him where everything is suppose to go as planned, nice and sweet and order. The real world is far from that.
"You don't know the hell and how difficult it is to survive in this cold, dark and broken world especially from a impoverished country." While I've personally been to places like that, lets talk about the average American. Whats your excuse for them? Clearly they survive on more than a dollar a day. Smh.
@bamesjond0069: Because people like you oppose a pay hike for those at the bottom for the sake of the rich to get richer instead of being on the side of the underdog and not those at the top hoarding all the wealth that others help them built.
The standards in America we are born into is to excel and give our kids a better future and life than we had and that cost some money.
Just yesterday a co-worker told she spent over $200 on her 2 daughters at the Fair. A stick of Chicken cost her $12 bucks.
One income if you make less than 50k assuming its not L. A. or New York City or Miami, Chicago, a year isn't going to cut it in raising a family all on your own.
Well on one hand you say families in other countries live on a dollar a day. Yet then you say america is so expensive because someone spent 200 on entertainment... which is it? Can one live on a dollar a day or are people entitled to 200 dollar entertainment on a regular basis? Lmao. Your argument is incoherent.
@bamesjond0069: What I'm saying is those people in very extreme impoverished countries can't barely feed themselves with the money they make.
In America our standards of living are different. We use cars, we use A/C in the summer and heater in the winter, we actually go to see doctors and dentist so our health is good, we value education to land good careers or try to get one etc.
It cost money and one income isn't going to get it done unless the man is netting around 75K a year assuming the cities I told you it won't even be close to what it actually cost in those very expensive cities.
Even that is high. Most of the country is quite affordable yet all these morons want to live in the slums in a major city when they could live someplace own their own house and it would be much easier. I dont really have any empathy for a broke person who goes to a fancy restaurant and can hardly afford an appetizer. Facepalm.
@bamesjond0069: Because it's not realistic. Is L. A., New York City, Miami and all major cities going to stay empty? Of course not. Their family is there, they grew up there, their church is there etc.
Uhh people do that all the time anyways you just said they can't but they do it. I personally did it so i know its obviously possible. You just make excuses for people who make terrible life choices. Or do you really think they are less than, non humans, and thats why some people can do it and some "can't"
@bamesjond0069: You actually think it's feasible for every poor person to leave L. A. Miami and New York City? Who will work at the local gas Station, malls etc. Use your brain for once. 🙄
How is that relevant? One it shows a complete lack of understanding of basic economics but secondly that would be a rich persons problem not a poor person. You honestly think a gas station attendant says "golly gee i better not move and have myself a better life because who will work here at this gas station for minimum wage. I know my place and i better stay her or this rich people won't be able to get gas here if nobody takes my job." What the actual fuck? You think that poor people think its their duty to be poor to maintain cheap labor for rich people? Did you grow up ultra wealthy or something?
@bamesjond0069: SMH. Unbelievable. It's called practicality. You think every American should move to Texas or California because it's the biggest states?
A nation typically has several states and provinces and people live spread out throughout the country. You haven't figured that out yet?
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy the core issue is you think of the situation from a Gods perspective. If a gas station attendant in nyc moves to kansas for a better life... who is this bad for? Nobody. But since you try and view this situation from the perspective of a God or inanimate idea like America, you're making problems from nothing and to solve them your solutions harm actual people. If NYC is objectively too expensive with poor standard of living and the flyover states are objectively better standards of living... why do you care if every single person from nyc moves to flyover states? For some reason you care and so you make all sorts of non existent problems "who would work at the gas stations?" Yet if your family member or close friend said hey im planning to move to missouri look at this beautiful house i could afford instead of rent on a tiny apartment... you would be happy for them. Stop trying to think for everyone like you're some kind of world leader and making up nonsense problems like who would be a barista if poor people moved to places with better standards of living. Focus on the actual people.
@bamesjond0069: I hope every person that works in a store or gas station moves from where you live and see how that goes for you and everyone living in that area.
You make no sense and simply don't understand how life is in reality and practicality. I'm done.
They wouldn't because i live in a place with a high living standard for low income. But psst secret YOU aren't ENTITLED TO OTHER PEOPLE BEING FORCED TO LIVE NEAR YOU TO PROVIDE YOU SERVICES! Seriously liberals are the most entitled snob people there are and then they wonder why people can't stand them.
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