It is too soon right now to know the motive for this particular case.
One reason though for some of the shootings is because the media and democrats promote and encourage hate and violence in the USA which leads to more violent crime.
@OddBeMe bingo! They actually think they would have a chance if the government mobilizes the military against the population. I am sure their automatic guns will do a lot against tanks.
If the amount of Americans participating in the revolt would be the same as in the American revolution then that would be about 3% of the population.
Do you think the US military, after being left shattered by so many leaving it because they won't kill US citizens.. do you two really think they can take almost 10 million people? Because 3% of the USA population is just short of 10 million.
Tell me what army has faced 10 million people that were its own citizens and one, go ahead, I'll wait.
They would kill US citizens without hesitation. It's their orders to protect their country and enforce the law. Also numbers would not make a difference. What you they would accomplish? Let's say the police begins going door to door getting every registered gun there is. Even if some people inside an community organize to fight... what about their families? Food? Water? Shelter? The rest of the community that is against them for causing a small war where they live?
The government can cut their water, electricity, food. Watching their lived ones under a military scope and watch how fast they fold.
Those 10 million would never be able to organize fully to begin with.
If things get bad enough then people will organize and other countries would love to have the chance to displace the USA government.
If things get bad enough then 10 million citizens will be more than enough to get rid of the current power structure in the United States. Heavily entrenched governments have been overthrown throughout history by far less.
@OddBeMe: You’re admitting that the US government would obey unlawful orders and commit war crimes against the US populace without those war crimes being prosecuted and with the continued support of the populace. That’s exactly the sort of regime people would fight against.
And someone who thinks it’s OK for the US government to wage war on the US populace and use disproportionate force while supporting disarming all private citizens is a real totalitarian.
Odd, you are dripping with desperation to get the government to persecute your political opponents. I said no such thing and unlike your sorry ass, I’ve actually defended this country and our freedoms. You and those who share your views that political opponents should be targeted with maximum military force are a danger to basic freedoms. Do you also understand that governments can’t just do what they feel like?
One of your fellow leftists here on GAG called for the „elimination of Republicans“. Are you in agreement with that or will your condemn his call for genocide?
@Avicenna correct me if I am wrong, but during the pandemic a community made a small county right? I don't recall the name and google is not helping. But I am sure something like that happened. It was because they were against the government choices regarding covid. Lasted for a few days until the military came and end it.
Of course the army will come for the citizens that are not obeying the law. Is part of their job.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8: I f do not know anything about this alleged event. But I do know that the military is forbidden by law to be used for internal law enforcement and it is illegal to follow unlawful orders. It’s also illegal to use disproportionate force against political opponents. What leftists are giddy about is the possibility of doing just that.
It should also be mentioned that mass confiscation of privately owed firearms would be illegal, do ordering the military to do it or to play a supporting role would be an illegal order which by law must be refused.
@Avicenna maybe in the news it was the police and not the military I really don't recall. But if the military really can't fight the population then yes no one will take away your guns.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8: Yeah, if what you describe happens, it will be handled by police, not military.
No military personnel, and that includes the National Guard, are permitted to enforce administrative law, so even if Congress passed legislation that called for confiscation of all privately owned firearms that was not vetoed by the President and that legislation survived the inevitable court challenges, the military could not be used to enforce it. It would have to be enforced by law enforcement departments.
We do not need new and improved gun laws. What we need is assholes in Washington just enforce the multitude of laws already on the books but what is happening to the gun laws is just like our southern border if you ignore the problem and say nothing the problem will magically disappear. there are enough laws on the books to take care of most problems. The gun has nothing to do as to what it is used for it is the sicko nut job the disenchanted people who think they are God and act out their [problems with guns . Never mind the 10 day waiting period make it 30 days also check out the gun stores and people selling gun at gun shows that they sell guns and circumvent gun laws to make a profit double and triple check everything no exceptions and one strike your out.
assault weapon it is not it is a semi automatic weapon an assault weapon is fully automatic you hold the trigger and it fires all rounds till it empties the magazine
as i said there are hundreds of laws on the books that are not used why add more that are not being used why add more to them if you do not use the one already there.
But I know there are many shootings that happen on a weekly basis. Which don’t get covered by main stream media at the national or international level. Many only get covered by local news or alternative news if at all.
If he didn't have a gun he would have still found a way to do what he did. If he had used a car would you blame the car? The car dealer? The car manufacturer? Blame the one who is at fault, the 18 year old kid who did it...
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It is too soon right now to know the motive for this particular case.
One reason though for some of the shootings is because the media and democrats promote and encourage hate and violence in the USA which leads to more violent crime.
Doesn't matter, we can't afford gun control when losing guns means we have no leverage with the government.
Don't let the government monopolize lethal force.. it's a bad idea.
Yeah! Cuz when the shit goes down our AR 15s will be no match for their drones, missiles, tanks.
Grow up.
@OddBeMe bingo! They actually think they would have a chance if the government mobilizes the military against the population. I am sure their automatic guns will do a lot against tanks.
If the amount of Americans participating in the revolt would be the same as in the American revolution then that would be about 3% of the population.
Do you think the US military, after being left shattered by so many leaving it because they won't kill US citizens.. do you two really think they can take almost 10 million people? Because 3% of the USA population is just short of 10 million.
Tell me what army has faced 10 million people that were its own citizens and one, go ahead, I'll wait.
*and won
They would kill US citizens without hesitation. It's their orders to protect their country and enforce the law.
Also numbers would not make a difference. What you they would accomplish? Let's say the police begins going door to door getting every registered gun there is. Even if some people inside an community organize to fight... what about their families? Food? Water? Shelter? The rest of the community that is against them for causing a small war where they live?
The government can cut their water, electricity, food. Watching their lived ones under a military scope and watch how fast they fold.
Those 10 million would never be able to organize fully to begin with.
If things get bad enough then people will organize and other countries would love to have the chance to displace the USA government.
If things get bad enough then 10 million citizens will be more than enough to get rid of the current power structure in the United States. Heavily entrenched governments have been overthrown throughout history by far less.
Yes, but they didn't fought tanks with slingshots. I know people there have more than slingshots, but against their vehicles does about the same.
In history people either had help from the army or they were at a time in history where drones and bazookas didn't exist.
About the foreign countries that would love to see the US fall, they would have at least all NATO backing them up.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 10,000,000 people can make a lot of bombs/black market connections.
I am sure they can. All the fat redneck's against a trained and vastly more armed army.
@OddBeMe: You’re admitting that the US government would obey unlawful orders and commit war crimes against the US populace without those war crimes being prosecuted and with the continued support of the populace. That’s exactly the sort of regime people would fight against.
The hubris leftists have is crazy.
And someone who thinks it’s OK for the US government to wage war on the US populace and use disproportionate force while supporting disarming all private citizens is a real totalitarian.
@Avicenna nailed it.
I think people need to remember that the government works for us and that the government should not be dictating what we do nearly as much as it does.
@Avicenna you're admitting that you’d shoot cops or American soldiers if you thought say…the election was rigged.
Odd, you are dripping with desperation to get the government to persecute your political opponents. I said no such thing and unlike your sorry ass, I’ve actually defended this country and our freedoms. You and those who share your views that political opponents should be targeted with maximum military force are a danger to basic freedoms. Do you also understand that governments can’t just do what they feel like?
One of your fellow leftists here on GAG called for the „elimination of Republicans“. Are you in agreement with that or will your condemn his call for genocide?
@Avicenna correct me if I am wrong, but during the pandemic a community made a small county right? I don't recall the name and google is not helping. But I am sure something like that happened. It was because they were against the government choices regarding covid. Lasted for a few days until the military came and end it.
Of course the army will come for the citizens that are not obeying the law. Is part of their job.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8: I f do not know anything about this alleged event. But I do know that the military is forbidden by law to be used for internal law enforcement and it is illegal to follow unlawful orders. It’s also illegal to use disproportionate force against political opponents. What leftists are giddy about is the possibility of doing just that.
It should also be mentioned that mass confiscation of privately owed firearms would be illegal, do ordering the military to do it or to play a supporting role would be an illegal order which by law must be refused.
@Avicenna maybe in the news it was the police and not the military I really don't recall.
But if the military really can't fight the population then yes no one will take away your guns.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 well of course, why do you think the USA has the national guard?
The regular military is not permitted to act against citizens within our borders.
Then they will not be enough to fight the armed population.
I may be wrong.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8: Yeah, if what you describe happens, it will be handled by police, not military.
No military personnel, and that includes the National Guard, are permitted to enforce administrative law, so even if Congress passed legislation that called for confiscation of all privately owned firearms that was not vetoed by the President and that legislation survived the inevitable court challenges, the military could not be used to enforce it. It would have to be enforced by law enforcement departments.
@Avicenna learned a new thing today. Had no idea the military could not act against the population.
Americans a childish and psychotic about guns. They need better gun control laws
We do not need new and improved gun laws. What we need is assholes in Washington just enforce the multitude of laws already on the books but what is happening to the gun laws is just like our southern border if you ignore the problem and say nothing the problem will magically disappear. there are enough laws on the books to take care of most problems. The gun has nothing to do as to what it is used for it is the sicko nut job the disenchanted people who think they are God and act out their [problems with guns . Never mind the 10 day waiting period make it 30 days also check out the gun stores and people selling gun at gun shows that they sell guns and circumvent gun laws to make a profit double and triple check everything no exceptions and one strike your out.
@DARKCLOUD1945X You also need new and better gun laws. What kind of insane country lets an 18 year old buy an assault rifle?
assault weapon it is not it is a semi automatic weapon an assault weapon is fully automatic you hold the trigger and it fires all rounds till it empties the magazine
as i said there are hundreds of laws on the books that are not used why add more that are not being used why add more to them if you do not use the one already there.
If only pro life cared more about being pro life for innocent children being murdered in schools than unborn fetuses.
from what I understand the guy who did the shooting. had a warrant out for his arrest in his home country and he was in the U. S. illegally.
Totally untrue
Then I had my facts wrong or misunderstood them from my source.
But I know there are many shootings that happen on a weekly basis. Which don’t get covered by main stream media at the national or international level. Many only get covered by local news or alternative news if at all.
And he’s a transexual who tried to break into the girls locker room, right?
You fckin idiots…
I'm actually wondering what made this kid shoot all those people too.. crazy!
Wel one teacher left side door prompt open for 3 hours allowing anyone to just walk in that was the first thing so easy access for one.
@Rebecka33 dumbest excuse I've heard. Anyone spouting should be ashamed.
Well who leaves a side door open for 3 hours knowing that could happen
@Rebecka33 just stop
No I'm not gonna stop at all because it could've saved 20 lives
@Rebecka33 Doesn't it seem odd that the one place this guy crashes his car is by a school with an open doorway?
There were cops on the scene when the killer arrived.
And instead of acting they waited outside to let the killer work.
The problem here isn't guns, it's yet another example of cops refusing to protect people.
If he didn't have a gun he would have still found a way to do what he did. If he had used a car would you blame the car? The car dealer? The car manufacturer? Blame the one who is at fault, the 18 year old kid who did it...
How else they supposed to fit in?
The running joke here of why we will not be American. We can't do a shooting, just to fit in.
heard of it hours ago
why the surprise, as this point.. that's just America
C. Not enough thinking!
Saying that guns CAUSE shootings, is like saying that forks cause obesity!
Not it's like saying sugar causes obesity. Which it does.
Liberals are always down for some human sacrifice when it comes to furthering their agenda
That's why.
Liberals are the reason for all atrocities in this world
At least you're looking at it without bias.
Liberal media. CNN MSNBC
@Alex8736 as opposed to your stupidly biased right wing media...
It is just the beginning and it won't stop trust me. As long as guns are bought from racks like undies.
Any person should not be able to buy guns for themselves for their 18th birthday
How crazy does that sound! He bought guns for his birthday!
Because the US needs to get ahold of their second ammendment.
If more guns made things better or safer, America would be the safest country on Earth.
Stop buying into Republican horse shit.
Because liberal policies over the past 60 years have destroyed our society. This is at your feet.
So it isn't right wingers masturbating over guns? Got it.
You think a tranny is a right winger? Lol.
You think the shooter is a tranny? Lol
He was, dipshit.
How could this be? All those gun control laws by you liberals. I guess they don;t work.
Like what gun laws?
Chicago gun laws.
How's that working out?
To anyone still defending guns... Go die. No really. I literally wish you die instead of those people. In this case children!
i wouldn't even say mentally ill people. its twisted people with access to guns. they are becoming more common.