Okay so I drive 2 hours EACH way to a gun show, to look around... I find a gun, then you want me to wait a few days, then drive 2 hours each way again... who the fuck is going to pay for my missed time off from work and gas for the second trip? I get having to pay for it the first time but not a second time, that is unfair.
Isn't this what Democrats are whining about, that its too hard to exercise the right to vote, by making people prove who they are and travel to register and vote? its unfair to have to do so to exercise a right.
The same is said here about guns, its a undue burden and expense of not only money but time.
This is life in Rural America, 4 hours round trip just in the car to go to a show. This is a perfectly valid concern here that should not be ignored.
In regards to mental health check, don't care... cause if mental health issue prevent exercising a right, the next thing to come is who decides what mental health things mean removing a right. Some asshole who thinks having anxiety or depression counts. Of course rape victims are going to have PTSD, anxiety and depression, so they'll say they can't own a gun to protect themselves cause they have mental issues... damn right they do.
As for registering, that is just so the government has a list to confiscate when they decide they want to outlaw certain things. No need for a registry, there is no legitimate reason they need to know this guy owns a thousand guns, or this one only one. There is no limit on how many one can legally own... none of their F'ing business.
Plus a registry and list, could be used by Democrats to start requiring insurance on all gun owners, there has been a lot of talk about that. Requiring gun insurance on each piece someone owns, but they'd need a registry to know who owns what.
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But I'm angry and need to shoot someone NOW!! >:[
I have no issue with that I have waited a week before I got a gun, It’s a nice one.50 cal Eagle the bitch kicks like a mother fucker.
I have no issue with a federal background check, Now I don’t trust government I want them to know I’m packing so they don’t fuck with me. You gotta understand government was number one cause of death in the 20th century why the hell would I trust them now. I barely trust government. The way I view government is it’s like you dating a girl who’s already cheated on you five times and you’re still with her do you really expect her not to cheat on you at six no. I would break up with all governments unfortunately men aren’t angel so we need these stupid fucks around but we need to treat government like authoritarians would treat the people. The average citizen should have more rights than the people in government I honestly think that we should be planning bombs in every single politician Skal and the minute they lie even about their eyecolor their head explodes only affects them so that we know we’re getting the truth out of government. Unfortunately there would be a lot of dead politicians because politicians can’t do their jobs without line so they shouldn’t have their jobs they should be dead
In the US the government and thus police do know what you are buying via the existing mental health checks at point of sale. It is already illegal to buy or sell without government knowledge and permission. Responsible or at least self interested gun owners understand that it is in their best interest to get a gun registered to the actual owner in case the weapon is recovered at a crime scene. We already have the best humanly possible balance between fairness to lawful buyers and protection of the public interest. Are there cracks which a determined crazy person can get through? Obviously. That does not mean that the rights of the vast majority, especially the urban poor who have the greatest statistical need for firearms but also are the most likely to get caught by and drown in the safety net, get to be trampled because the few crazy people beat the system. If anything, the ease with which People with demonstratable mental health difficulties can beat the system should be evidence of the people currently in charge of it are unfit to administer it or any future systems yet to be devised.
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They already have this in California - a 10 day waiting period. Do you know how many people have been stopped due to mental health issues? NONE. They don't even add that information to the background check system in most cases, even though they are supposed to.
But it wouldn't matter anyway, because they don't prosecute gun crimes against criminals here anyway - only middle class guys with no criminal record are prosecuted, so that they can legally take away their right to own a gun.
The Left has no interest in solving or preventing gun crimes - they only want to disarm the general population so that they can do whatever they want without fear of reprisals. They are perfectly happy to let Left-leaning rioters burn down cities and even try to barricade police in police stations and set them on fire in "mostly-peaceful protests" for a year straight with nearly no prosecutions.
This is why gun owners refuse these laws - we know what the Left is doing and why. You need only look at what they DO, and compare that to what they SAY, and the truth is obvious.how quickly you've forgotten how you anti-gun nuts were foaming at the mouth, calling anyone who supported Donald Trump "mentally ill". I assume you're also aware that a designation such as that would automatically disqualify any "Trump supporter" from being able to own guns, yes? I know because y'all tried that already.
Creaming for red flag laws so that you could report your conservative neighbors and beat off while you watch the ATF take their guns away for NOTHING other than being conservative and not a raving lunatic such as yourself.
Your anti-gun wet dream law, HR-8 would not have stopped any of these mass shootings:
Columbine High School, Columbine, CO – April 20, 1999
Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA – April 16, 2007
Fort Hood, TX – November 5, 2009
Tuscon, AZ – January 8, 2011
Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT – December 14, 2012
Aurora, CO – July 20, 2012
Navy Yard, Washington, DC – September 16, 2013
Emanuel AME Church, Charleston, SC – June 17, 2015
San Bernardino, CA – December 2, 2015
Pulse Nightclub, Orlando, FL – June 12, 2016
Las Vegas, NV – October 1, 2017
First Baptist Church, Sutherland Springs, TX – November 5, 2017
Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, Parkland, FL – February 14, 2018
Nor would it have stopped the recent shooting in Texas. But it would have affected a shit ton of legal and mentally stable gun owners. Actually if you'd like to read the official Republican position on why they don't like HR-8, here it is. www.republicanwhip.gov/news/h-r-8-facts-and-failures/We gun nuts wait and follow the laws as written. Legal purchases of weapons people wait as asked, the mentally disturbed sicko and a myriad of loose lugnut cannot wait. I am for the doubling the wait time and real background checks finger printing any doubt hold licensing till the question is answers even if it takes years People who cannot wait to be vetted should be on a special watch list and not given a gun permit. We also know that if a person wants a gun bad enough they will find a way to get one laws or no laws
I'm anti gun but the logic is "give an inch they take a mile." Because they don't understand how government, policy, or compromises work on any level. The way American democracy should work is both sides have strong opinions and fight tooth and nail against each other untill we reach a sensible middle ground.
The problem is the Confederate south. They are pushing shit they can't back up and cry about the rules.here in Texas you don't need to register with the government... you could just buy and sell privately, and then legality does not really matter
the FBI does not have the capability to keep track of all guns anyway, so they do not bother much eitheri would say someone who flips their shit cause they have to wait for a gun, should not be sold a gun to begin with, cause they demonstrated, that they do not have the mental maturity to operate a firearm. an exception would be that they live in a high crime area and litterally fear for their life not owning a gun... but i guess in that case, they could just go and buy a shotgun at the local walmart right?
Because of potential abuses of either system by the government. Let's take the registry...
Let's say we have a huge registry of guns. One day the government somehow manages to ban all guns. Well, now they have this handy registry that tells us whose house to go to for each gun! This is similar to how gun registries have been used in other Western countries, so saying "Trust me, I promise we won't do that" is not good enough. We want to remove even the possibility of abuse.Or maybe his failure guardians should have known not to buy him weapons for his 18th birthday when he was clearly mentally disturbed. Just look at his social media pictures and you can see something is wrong with him. He didn’t work for that money to buy the weapons. He didn’t even graduate school. It’s a failure at home.
We tried a gun registry in Canada all it did was waste money. Shockingly the criminals didn't register them.
How are you going to make those "mental health checks" not arbitrary when you made masculinity a disease?
Also, what mental health check would have prevented him from getting 5K on ammo and that illegal high capacity hand gun?i'm not heartless, but you can't take away my rights. it's not a political problem. i guess you WOKE the monsters. congratulations
Why do ignorant activist Leftists such as yourself want to keep a woman from protecting herself against a rapist?
Good idea. We should do a mental health check before all rights. Primarily voting. It would reduce the number of democrats in office, for sure.
I view seperating the two party system into 2 halves of the country
Watching the Dems be ruled by BLM so if you aren't at least a creosote on the paint chart and male you'll be guaranteed to be executedBecause it violates my second amendment right. Why should law abiding citizens be punished for things a small minority of gun owners do?
I think it is the distrust that gun owners have for democrats. It is not undeserved.
Government registries for firearms were used by the NAZI'S and communist to confiscate, subjugate, and murder.
Not given up my firearms bro.Well, presumably because it is against the constitution.
because the criminals will not abide by this. It will just disarm the good people
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