Remember, stop shooting each other does not mean stop killing each other, they just find other ways. :(
For America, it's our culture. America loves guns, it's part of our national heritage, which is short if you think about it. Other countries have been around for thousands of years, but America has been around for 200+.
It will take time for the culture to shift, but I don't think it'll be for a few lifetimes.
Science proves people who hold this position think people who disagree are stupid when they point out things that are, in actuality, only low resolution thinking. Yet they believe they have said something deep and profound. As if they expect those who disagree with them to not have thought of these points before
Your pie in the sky dreams will never happen. It is impossible to get governments to disarm their armies. All the non-government individuals on the planet may kill a few thousand. Governments kill many millions; more than 1,000 times as many.
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That is not what the study says. It says: "Evidence from 130 studies in 10 countries suggests that in certain nations the simultaneous implementation of laws targeting multiple firearms restrictions is associated with reductions in firearm deaths. Laws restricting the purchase of (e. g., background checks) and access to (e. g., safer storage) firearms are also associated with lower rates of intimate partner homicides and firearm unintentional deaths in children, respectively." You are intellectually dishonest.
Ok, ban all guns. Now what? All you've accomplished is leaving law abiding citizens without the option of protecting themselves against criminals who don't care one iota about laws. Good luck with that logic:) Going to ban all household chemicals too? They're much more dangerous than guns for those of us with more than two brain cells to rub together...
Science also proves that killing a home intruder with a gun makes it less likely theyll harm you and your family. A woman in my province recently had a home intruder break in and assault her for several hours. No leads, he got away with it and he'll do it again. I wish she had the opportunity to shoot him.
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It's easy to say things like that when you are not a person who does a dangerous job.
Not having a gun doesn't stop you from being shot, however having a gun, even if you are facing people who also have guns gives you a chance, without a gun if you are outnumbered and you aren't a ninja you have no chance at all.
Guns are an equaliser, even an old lady can defeat a giant of a man potentially if she has a gun.
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Ultimately this is an issue of who is responsible for keeping you safe, is it you or is it the state?
Even in the UK you are allowed to arm yourself and first strike in defence of yourself someone else or property but you must not use excessive force and frankly no one really knows what that means.
We might not have mass shootings or a high murder rate here but people get hurt and robbed etc all the time and they are essentially not really allowed to defend themselves, they either can't or if they are a martial artist then they run the risk of being imprisoned for defending themselves because they can easily do too much damage and will be viewed harshly by a judge.
People who shoot other people illegally generally own guns illegally. That means that they don't care what the law is. US cities with the most shootings are run by Democrats and ALWAYS have gun bans. Chicago is a shining example
These are all maniacs / megalomaniac and has not one thing to do with the NRA lobby. Get the facts and ban weapons! Sad, really Think before pulling the trigger, most don't... Same as opening mouth and then thinking after
Funny you said that. I watched a video on YouTube from a guy who travel on motorcycle worldwide. He was talking to another guy (when he was in Alaska) that told him he stop owning gun to ease his mind. The guy explained that the times he owned a gun, he experienced unease and paranoia.
Best phrase that fits, "When you outlaw guns then only the outlaws will have guns". The crime still happens but then there are no "Good guns" to be seen for defense. If one wants to get a gun there is the normal "legal" way" but even if that disappears the black market will reign unregulated. Even now Ghost guns - ones that are untraceable -are being fashioned.
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Science proves that there are only two genders that is biology, that is science. However science does not prove that people without guns don't shoot people, because that is not science. Those are statistics!! Furthermore if gun control worked explain why NY is always in the newspaper because of gun related crimes? Don't insult peoples intelligence.
It's not that simple. Giving a hun to a person doesn't mean that person will kill someone. They are many more people who use guns for their purpose (target shooting, hunting, protection) than those who use guns to kill others.
But, Tom she has a point though! People without guns don't shoot people!, they stab them! see problem solved 👍
Lol just kidding I know I have the worst sense of humor but at least I make myself giggle 🙈
You have a point Tom, but making guns legal makes the life of murderers easier because now you can legally purchase a gun and kill people done!. that's actually a scary thought!
Because those 130 countries are literally leaa than 1/16 the size of this one with at least 200 million less guns.
Try to think a little more objectively so you can at least accept how different the USA is from almost any other country.
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No shit. Studies have also shown that students who don't have a pencil flunk the exam they needed it to take and that people without knifes have a 0% chance to stab people with one.
The point is you cannot legislate guns out of the hands of the individuals who never gave a shit about the legislation in the first place. That's why they are called criminals.
My objective in life is to see the imperial system of the United States of America destroyed. Why exactly is it in my interest to reduce the homicide rate in this country? Especially when it's enemy voters in enemy cities killing each other?
I believe that people who don't drive cars don't have accidents. and people who don't have sex don't have kids. Its not science its common sense. Now science can prove a gun can't kill unless it's in someones hand to pull the trigger. I've seen that proof with my own eyes.
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Remember, stop shooting each other does not mean stop killing each other, they just find other ways. :(
For America, it's our culture. America loves guns, it's part of our national heritage, which is short if you think about it. Other countries have been around for thousands of years, but America has been around for 200+.
It will take time for the culture to shift, but I don't think it'll be for a few lifetimes.
Science proves people who hold this position think people who disagree are stupid when they point out things that are, in actuality, only low resolution thinking. Yet they believe they have said something deep and profound. As if they expect those who disagree with them to not have thought of these points before
Your pie in the sky dreams will never happen. It is impossible to get governments to disarm their armies. All the non-government individuals on the planet may kill a few thousand. Governments kill many millions; more than 1,000 times as many.
That is not what the study says. It says: "Evidence from 130 studies in 10 countries suggests that in certain nations the simultaneous implementation of laws targeting multiple firearms restrictions is associated with reductions in firearm deaths. Laws restricting the purchase of (e. g., background checks) and access to (e. g., safer storage) firearms are also associated with lower rates of intimate partner homicides and firearm unintentional deaths in children, respectively." You are intellectually dishonest.
Ok, ban all guns. Now what? All you've accomplished is leaving law abiding citizens without the option of protecting themselves against criminals who don't care one iota about laws. Good luck with that logic:) Going to ban all household chemicals too? They're much more dangerous than guns for those of us with more than two brain cells to rub together...
Science also proves that killing a home intruder with a gun makes it less likely theyll harm you and your family. A woman in my province recently had a home intruder break in and assault her for several hours. No leads, he got away with it and he'll do it again. I wish she had the opportunity to shoot him.
It's easy to say things like that when you are not a person who does a dangerous job.
Not having a gun doesn't stop you from being shot, however having a gun, even if you are facing people who also have guns gives you a chance, without a gun if you are outnumbered and you aren't a ninja you have no chance at all.
Guns are an equaliser, even an old lady can defeat a giant of a man potentially if she has a gun.
Ultimately this is an issue of who is responsible for keeping you safe, is it you or is it the state?
Even in the UK you are allowed to arm yourself and first strike in defence of yourself someone else or property but you must not use excessive force and frankly no one really knows what that means.
We might not have mass shootings or a high murder rate here but people get hurt and robbed etc all the time and they are essentially not really allowed to defend themselves, they either can't or if they are a martial artist then they run the risk of being imprisoned for defending themselves because they can easily do too much damage and will be viewed harshly by a judge.
People who shoot other people illegally generally own guns illegally. That means that they don't care what the law is. US cities with the most shootings are run by Democrats and ALWAYS have gun bans. Chicago is a shining example
These are all maniacs / megalomaniac and has not one thing to do with the NRA lobby.
Get the facts and ban weapons! Sad, really
Think before pulling the trigger, most don't... Same as opening mouth and then thinking after
Funny you said that. I watched a video on YouTube from a guy who travel on motorcycle worldwide. He was talking to another guy (when he was in Alaska) that told him he stop owning gun to ease his mind. The guy explained that the times he owned a gun, he experienced unease and paranoia.
Best phrase that fits, "When you outlaw guns then only the outlaws will have guns". The crime still happens but then there are no "Good guns" to be seen for defense. If one wants to get a gun there is the normal "legal" way" but even if that disappears the black market will reign unregulated. Even now Ghost guns - ones that are untraceable -are being fashioned.
Science proves that there are only two genders that is biology, that is science.
However science does not prove that people without guns don't shoot people, because that is not science. Those are statistics!! Furthermore if gun control worked explain why NY is always in the newspaper because of gun related crimes? Don't insult peoples intelligence.
I bet Mexico is not on that list...
the list of countries in which people are not allowed to have guns (for the most part) so they simply stopped shooting each other...
but Mexico is not "other countries" neither is the USA
Science proves that if a murderer can't get a gun, he'll just use a motor vehicle to mow people down!!
So do you actually think the parents of the six year old who died feels better that their son was murdered with a motor vehicle instead of a fire arm?
It's not that simple. Giving a hun to a person doesn't mean that person will kill someone. They are many more people who use guns for their purpose (target shooting, hunting, protection) than those who use guns to kill others.
But, Tom she has a point though! People without guns don't shoot people!, they stab them! see problem solved 👍
Lol just kidding I know I have the worst sense of humor but at least I make myself giggle 🙈
You have a point Tom, but making guns legal makes the life of murderers easier because now you can legally purchase a gun and kill people done!. that's actually a scary thought!
Because those 130 countries are literally leaa than 1/16 the size of this one with at least 200 million less guns.
Try to think a little more objectively so you can at least accept how different the USA is from almost any other country.
No shit. Studies have also shown that students who don't have a pencil flunk the exam they needed it to take and that people without knifes have a 0% chance to stab people with one.
The point is you cannot legislate guns out of the hands of the individuals who never gave a shit about the legislation in the first place. That's why they are called criminals.
My objective in life is to see the imperial system of the United States of America destroyed. Why exactly is it in my interest to reduce the homicide rate in this country? Especially when it's enemy voters in enemy cities killing each other?
I believe that people who don't drive cars don't have accidents. and people who don't have sex don't have kids. Its not science its common sense. Now science can prove a gun can't kill unless it's in someones hand to pull the trigger. I've seen that proof with my own eyes.
There are a few Remington lawsuits that disagree. Also dropped firearms that went off.
... I don't get it what science have to do here. Like if people don't have gun then they don't have anything to shoot with too.
If we take away thought itself, then no one would think about killing, so let's zap thoughts out of everyone's heads.
Again, your argument literally begs the question.
This actually a great solution!😂💯