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Well, a couple things. I'm not sure science has anything to do with that. That's a weird thing to say. I'll be honest, I didn't read your whole question because if that. But I did read 130 countries took away weapons and they stopped killing... And I just stopped there. Let me tell you something. If you get someone mad enough where they have made up their mind to kill you, do you think they care if they have a gun or not? Killings didn't stop from happening but maybe murder from a gun did? I don't even k ow how true that is but let's just say that all 130 countries did stop using guns to kill. That's really hard to believe but for the sake of your post we will stick to that.
A murder is a murder. Someone who is sick in the head that wants to kill will kill with what they have available. In most cases I believe people would choose that method to die if they got a choice from a murderer. Its quick. A pyscho without a gun will keep you in a hole in the basement while making you rub lotion on your own skin or else you are forced to be sprayed with a hose. All that so he can eventually skin you like a deer and make a dress out of your skin. I much rather get shot in the face.
My point is taking away guns will not stop people from getting murdered. It's not the gun that kills. It just doesn't make sense to take away guns. And do you think the people who have the guns illegally are going to give them up because the government said so? I think if they gave a fuck about what the government said, they wouldn't have them in the first place. They probably are not known for fully thinking things through.
Another thing is the timing of all this. Is this the best time to take away the guns of americans? Have we forgotten so quickly that we have been feeding weapons to a country the russia is at war with? I can't remember is russia is known to be nice and violence free. Oh, wait, they are currently in a war against somebody we are giving weapons to in hopes they kill the Russians. Jesus, seems like the perfect time to take away guns. Russia isn't known to just go fight other countries because they have something they want.
u "Science?" Really? When people invoke the phrase "it's been proven," or "science has proven," they are revealing a weakness in their argument.
We all understand that statement just as well as you do. We also understand that if every law abiding citizen turn in their guns, criminals will still have guns, and the wacko left will step up their calls to defund the police. And we will be left to defend ourselves with a can of mace when a criminal is pointing his loaded gun at us. According to "science," what happens then?
It's not as simple as the question you present.
@OlderAndWiser I would rather err on the side of caution and meet the enemy with a loaded shotgun.
@exitseven You got that right!
@Amy10223 And if everyone was forced to always do the right thing, then what? We could all keep our guns. The only problem is that we can't force people to always do the right thing, just like you can't force people to turn in their guns and have any conidence at all that you have accomplished tht goal. How would you even try to do that? Realistically? Have a VERY serious talk with them?
I can understand that argument and still believe it’s nonsense. I’m Nigerian and we have a lot of terrorist attacks and lots of kidnappings burglary blah blah a whole mess. Times like this it would be great to be armed. It begs the question in a country where guns are illegal how are so many people able to get access to them to form these groups. Your science is floored because they will illegally obtain them. Honestly Nigerians aren’t in a sane environment to make arms legal because everyone is frustrated and that would lead to more deaths because people can always pay their way to obtain a gun license without being properly checked. And I’m sure most shooters don’t have gun licenses because they illegally obtained it. So removing the guns would honestly make things worst for your society. To prevent a war is to prepare for war. I live in Nigeria and I can assure you that if it was legal to have arms and people were well assessed it would help curtail our issues with bandits and burglars etc
I am in Japan and citizens do not have guns here. We have never had a school shooting and we don't have to worry about getting shot in the streets. Our crime rate is also one of the lowest in the world, which is pretty amazing since most of the population are in large cities. A lot of people I know joke about the USA being the "Wild Wild West", and it is a valid point. Also, in the entire history of the our police force, there has never been an instance of a police officer shooting and killing someone. They do have guns, but they are all well-trained in their use. Police officers are required to have a college degree and go through intensive training. I researched the police training in the USA, which varies from state to state, and it is only 12 weeks of classes in many areas. Also, what is going on the USA that is causing so many cases of mental health disorders? It is higher than the rest of the world combined! 😯😯😯😳😳😳
The Japanese culture is not as violent as the U. S. A.
There is a huge "thug mentality" in the USA. Most murders and gun violence occur in urban areas.
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Let's see, mass shooting in Norway with a bow and arrow last year. Both are designed to penetrate a target and cause death by bleeding, arrows are far more efficient. You can shoot a deer with a rifle and it might run for a while, shoot one with a hunting tip arrow, just count down from 60 tops. It's also far more conspicuous to be walking around with a compound bow though...
www.cbsnews.com/.../
@TallAnon What you retards fail to digest is that in all first world countries where they have much more restrictive laws, the number of murders and rapes do not go down. All you are doing is saying, well, mass murders stopped, but the numbers do not go down. Why? Because you don't allow people to have guns. Criminals are still equipped with guns, police have billy clubs, you are left with Criminals who are so brave. It's them, and knowing you aren't armed to the teeth. Brazen bastards are after you, and you are left limp wristing your soft cock while you are completely fucked.
@TallAnon It matters not what you care about. Lefty minds can't wrap their minds around the simple facts that guns save lives. You are left with your asinine city slicker mindset. Yet you support pedophilia while crying foul. So some asshole went off unhinged. Your chances of dying via any other method does not decrease in the least with gun control. It's proven time and time again with the likes of the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canadia, Germany, etc. You want to live in your Dem ran shit hole, so be it. You want to come and take my guns, so be it.
It's not so much as it is hard for people to grasp, as it is that they refuse to accept it. They dont want to let go of their gns just as much as a child doesn't want to let go of their toys. The NRA backs them up. Try and reason with them by showing them statistics ( look at Japan, for example) about countries with low homicide rates due to guns, and they won't listen. Worth a read, below:
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38365729
Why can't people ever understand that guns are just one way people kill each other and if guns were never invented, we'd have school crossbowing and stabbings every week.
Trying to blame the problem on guns is just ignoring the real issue, while also trying to take away the Second Amendment and people's rights to protect themselves from government tyranny.
As I said before, it is almost always the people who never have to protect anyone or rely on others to keep them safe, that oppose gun safety the most. You know, weak women and pussy men. They're ALWAYS the ones who oppose gun control more than anyone.
true. but there are those cases like Chairman Mao, NAZI Germany, the people thrown into volcanos... where govt starts killing people by other means. If we add up all the people killed in just those episodes, might even out.
The country... the only country that exists... usa... haha... was founded on the idea of freedom from govt, which had guns as a cornerstone in the balance of power.
Creates obvious problems we now wrestle with because we have a large number of poorly parented dangerous humans.. primarily male.
Science also proves that people with guns deter and stop crimes. Please look at both sides of the coin instead of just one side.
Speaking of science. Consider some physics and math. Have you ever done the calculations for the physics of a bullet compared to a car? It's about kinetic energy.
Let's say a bullet travels 10X the velocity of a car at highway speeds. So what do you think the mass of a car is compared to a bullet? Do you think the car has 10X the mass of a bullet? 100X? 1000X? 10000X? More?
Let's be real for a moment, the whole problem of safety and the feeling of safety. Yes you can take away all the guns and how do you want to replace them?
Like what shall make me people feel safe especially in the countryside where not every city may have a strong police force.
That's the issue I have lately because whereas in Europe in the US many people don't trust the police to help them in times of a attack also in central Europe like Germany or UK thefts often flee when they realise that the inhabitants of a house are around and the house isn't empty.
I don't know about the US but here it's less likely to experience a confrontation where the theft has a gun.
They stop shooting each other and start stabbing each other, shit doesn't change and the US already has millions of criminals with guns, taking guns away doesn't do jack, just leave citizens defenseless against these criminals, let's not mention the second amendment was created for civilians to defend themselves if the government ever becomes corrupt and turns on the public, I guess if y'all wanna trust your government to the point you feel like they will never take advantage of the people then that all you but corruption is everywhere 🤷🏽
You're 100% correct. They don't shoot other people. They use other weapons and articles to do their killing with. Hammers, knives, machetes, home-made bombs, vehicles, chemicals, and rocks... Rocks are especially bad. We ought to take those away too! But the things are EVERY WHERE!
You see taking away guns, doesn't solve the real problem - people's desire to murder. Until you address that, taking away one tool (the gun), means they simply use a different one.
Science proves it... Logic could have too but then there's fist, cats, bats, knives. I mean sadly anger and violence are within people so disarming everyone is not going to stop. Guns are to protect and kill but also brains are for thinking and controlling actions. People are controlling actions and thinking now. And also with this thinking or shall we say the science, if that was a case why this on the public might not just deserve the world so that way nobody can shoot anybody because no guns will be in anyone's hands not the military not the police not the people?
Oh goodie, more anti-2A propaganda by retards who can't understand the basic premise of protecting yourself and all you own from thugs and criminals. Since you have a hard-on for science so much, now here this: people who don't have guns are at least 100% more likely to get robbed and or killed by said thugs and criminals than by those who don't. Nobody supports disarmament of civilians more than thugs and criminals since it makes their work easier. "Oh but you have the police." Oh the same police that liberals want defunded? The same police who do nothing when psychopaths like Salvador Ramos shoot their own grandma then shoot up a school of children?
No, retards like you who trust the government to protect us are everything wrong with this country.
Well if you're talking about America, I think it's about 200 years too late to reverse what's already set in motion, the seal's already broken as the violent criminals already have guns and wouldn't just return them because some new law says so. Meanwhile the law-abiding gun owners would do their lawful duty and become unarmed, thus giving the violent criminals free reign to rape, pillage, kill, and destroy as they see fit. Once you introduce guns into the general population, you have to assume the criminal underworld will become absolutely and permanently saturated with firearms of all varieties. So then the question becomes one of damage limitation -- making sure law-abiding, morally upstanding citizens have the capability to out-gun, out-number, and out-manoeuvre any attempts on their lives or livelihoods by a gun-bearing criminal.
How do you take away peoples guns though? In the USA gun trafficking is #2 right after drug trafficking.
Outlaw them and only criminals will have them, because they can still buy them... much like they buy illegal drugs.
It would be different if the border was secure, but since its not, I see no way to take all the guns away.
It would be truly stupid to take them away from law abiding and make them victims of the criminals with no way to defend themselves.
They refuse to look at the facts.
More kids in the united states die by gunfire than car crashes. More kids die by gunfire than on duty police officers and active military members do. Guns are now the leading cause of death for kids.
Sixty percent of gun deaths are suicides. Suicide is not really "gunfire." That's a really disingenuous way to frame the problem.
@OldWorldOrder more like 50%. Also we are talking about children. Aged 1-19. In 2019 out of 23,941 gun related suicides 12% were under the age of 24.
But guess what. Suicide by gun is gunfire. It's still access to guns. If literal children couldn't get access to guns like the 172 5-14 year olds in 2019 they could still be here right now.
Maybe. Or maybe they would have just jumped off a building or swallowed a bottle of pills.
You have hoplophobia. You have an irrational aversion to firearms.
@OldWorldOrder I don't at all actually. Not afraid of guns at all. I'm afraid of people senselessly dying and nobody doing anything about it
And history has shown once a government/ruling class takes away the population's guns the citizens end up getting slaughtered by the millions. This has happened numerous times and the founding fathers knew what they were doing when they wrote "threats both foreign and domestic". But by all means, disarm yourself and leave everyone else to make their own decisions.
Ahhh. It's cure that you think there's some virtue in keeping people from shooting others as if there's never a good reason to shoot somebody. Tell you what.. if you convince the cops, military and the security guards of all those politicians to stop using guns I'll think about it.
I agree with you 100% I like your argument on gun control and your thoughts about it but what I don't like is I am very responsible with my guns and they're locked up safe and I wouldn't want somebody telling me that I had to give my guns up because of what somebody else did
Have you seen what it takes to own a firearm in the UK? For non-farmers at least, people who just want to use them for fun, it takes months, they have to be safely stored, you have to keep practicing (or the licence will be taken away again), you have to be healthy (presumably including mental health), and you have to have a good reason (target shooting is a good reason, "I'm afraid" isn't a good reason, afaics).
None of that should break the 2A, why would you want unstable people in the militia?
www.silverstoneshootingcentre.co.uk/.../
Well it's kind of like the same way here if you're going to go hunting you have to have it Hunters safety course and I believe it needs to be renewed every year I quit hunting so
I don't know what the answers all I know is that we elect our politicians to do the right things for all of us and they're so busy being bought and sold and they're so busy doing business for the the corporations with lots of money so they can get rehired re-elected when it comes time I don't think that they do have two things that they're supposed to do for we have a mental health problem big time here if you watched some of the ways politicians Act I think even after them mentally ill the only answer that I have is most of the people doing The Killing are teenagers I need parents have to know what their kids are doing who they are how they act if they're mentally ill they need help and there has to be a way for the parents to afford the help for their kid there's so much violence in the world nowadays I mean I don't even watch TV anymore but even when I did watch TV I know the difference between right and wrong real and fake I don't know if it has something to do with video games like I said I don't have an answer
O.. k... so if pepole dont have as much guns they shoot less... OMG amazing research there
dose not accout for outher deaths
also the research it self as so many outhers end with "can't really say anything for sure"
This just about prove nothing as much as I can see
You'll never beat the gun companies , the IRA is so strong. look you can buy a ghost gun on line ( anyone) and put it together and have a legal gun with no serial #. What's wrong with that picture. people use motor vehicles as weapons and drive over people. maybe it starts with parenting and teaching kids at a early age. There's no good answer yet
Yeah not sure. I’d go so far as saying people who like sporting or collecting guns dont shoot people. Youd think theyd be smarter and protect their hobby by making it more restrictive.
I do drone fkying and had to get a UAV license. They keep upping the requirements because dumbasses land drones on airport runaways.
You would be correct. Hunting/Competition/Home & Self Defense and collecting guns are all things we do as responsible citizens. It's not a hobby, it's a lifestyle. When you say you think we'd be smarter and protect our hobby by making it more restrictive is where you fall flat. The very fact you make such a comment tells you how successful we are at keeping our lifestyle alive and well. I'd love to hear one such way in which you'd love to make our lifestyle more restrictive.
You fly a drone, you have a license. They keep upping the requirements, blah blah blah. You own a gun too allegedly. What we keep on saying to you people is, common sense gun laws are in place. If you were to tell us why a city libtard who hates guns is in possession of one, that might explain a lot. Did you actually purchase it? Obviously you don't hunt or fish. You also didn't purchase it for self/home defense. So, it comes down to, how the fuck did you get your gun? Did you inherit it? Did someone you trust in your family hand it over to you? That's where the gray area is. The gray area is not something that can ever be restricted.
We keep on telling you. Get your ballz over to a gun shop, take the prerequisite classes to buy one and carry. Tell us about the neighborhoods you avoid. Tell us about your driver's license, tell us about your knives, tell us about your hammers. Tell us about how crime, murders/rapes, etc, are totally better in other first world countries where they have more restrictive gun laws (hate to spill the beans here, they aren't). Then tell us why we shouldn't stand and fight against asinine morons who don't even know what laws are supposed to supposed to make everything safer for you.
Of course there are. I'm not a lawyer and have no way of navigating just what it takes to actually go through the hoops of purchasing guns in the Great State of Texas. Before you go off saying an infant can buy a gun in Texas, try to do it yourself. If like John Wayne Gacy, you have sodomy on your record (aka your wife found it rape when she told you no, to do a dipstick with your thumb in her backdoor like Eric Cartman when he's trying to wrestle gators and the like to emulate Steve Irwiin) you might just be a felon, and no, NICS background check will not allow you to purchase a firearm.
People without knives don't stab people.
People without water don't drown people.
People without cars don't run people over.
People without ropes don't strangle people.
People without bombs don't blow up people.
People without poison don't poison people.
People without judo and karate lessons don't maim people.
People without razor blades don't slice people up.
People without rocks don't bash people's heads in.
Where does it end?
Science proves people who hold this position think people who disagree are stupid when they point out things that are, in actuality, only low resolution thinking. Yet they believe they have said something deep and profound. As if they expect those who disagree with them to not have thought of these points before
Your pie in the sky dreams will never happen. It is impossible to get governments to disarm their armies. All the non-government individuals on the planet may kill a few thousand. Governments kill many millions; more than 1,000 times as many.
That is not what the study says. It says: "Evidence from 130 studies in 10 countries suggests that in certain nations the simultaneous implementation of laws targeting multiple firearms restrictions is associated with reductions in firearm deaths. Laws restricting the purchase of (e. g., background checks) and access to (e. g., safer storage) firearms are also associated with lower rates of intimate partner homicides and firearm unintentional deaths in children, respectively." You are intellectually dishonest.
Remember, stop shooting each other does not mean stop killing each other, they just find other ways. :(
For America, it's our culture. America loves guns, it's part of our national heritage, which is short if you think about it. Other countries have been around for thousands of years, but America has been around for 200+.
It will take time for the culture to shift, but I don't think it'll be for a few lifetimes.
Ok, ban all guns. Now what? All you've accomplished is leaving law abiding citizens without the option of protecting themselves against criminals who don't care one iota about laws. Good luck with that logic:) Going to ban all household chemicals too? They're much more dangerous than guns for those of us with more than two brain cells to rub together...
Science also proves that killing a home intruder with a gun makes it less likely theyll harm you and your family. A woman in my province recently had a home intruder break in and assault her for several hours. No leads, he got away with it and he'll do it again. I wish she had the opportunity to shoot him.
It's easy to say things like that when you are not a person who does a dangerous job.
Not having a gun doesn't stop you from being shot, however having a gun, even if you are facing people who also have guns gives you a chance, without a gun if you are outnumbered and you aren't a ninja you have no chance at all.
Guns are an equaliser, even an old lady can defeat a giant of a man potentially if she has a gun.
Ultimately this is an issue of who is responsible for keeping you safe, is it you or is it the state?
Even in the UK you are allowed to arm yourself and first strike in defence of yourself someone else or property but you must not use excessive force and frankly no one really knows what that means.
We might not have mass shootings or a high murder rate here but people get hurt and robbed etc all the time and they are essentially not really allowed to defend themselves, they either can't or if they are a martial artist then they run the risk of being imprisoned for defending themselves because they can easily do too much damage and will be viewed harshly by a judge.
People who shoot other people illegally generally own guns illegally. That means that they don't care what the law is. US cities with the most shootings are run by Democrats and ALWAYS have gun bans. Chicago is a shining example
Funny you said that. I watched a video on YouTube from a guy who travel on motorcycle worldwide. He was talking to another guy (when he was in Alaska) that told him he stop owning gun to ease his mind. The guy explained that the times he owned a gun, he experienced unease and paranoia.
Best phrase that fits, "When you outlaw guns then only the outlaws will have guns". The crime still happens but then there are no "Good guns" to be seen for defense. If one wants to get a gun there is the normal "legal" way" but even if that disappears the black market will reign unregulated. Even now Ghost guns - ones that are untraceable -are being fashioned.
Science proves that there are only two genders that is biology, that is science.
However science does not prove that people without guns don't shoot people, because that is not science. Those are statistics!! Furthermore if gun control worked explain why NY is always in the newspaper because of gun related crimes? Don't insult peoples intelligence.
u I bet Mexico is not on that list...
the list of countries in which people are not allowed to have guns (for the most part) so they simply stopped shooting each other...
but Mexico is not "other countries" neither is the USA
Science proves that if a murderer can't get a gun, he'll just use a motor vehicle to mow people down!!
So do you actually think the parents of the six year old who died feels better that their son was murdered with a motor vehicle instead of a fire arm?
It's not that simple. Giving a hun to a person doesn't mean that person will kill someone. They are many more people who use guns for their purpose (target shooting, hunting, protection) than those who use guns to kill others.
But, Tom she has a point though! People without guns don't shoot people!, they stab them! see problem solved 👍
Lol just kidding I know I have the worst sense of humor but at least I make myself giggle 🙈
You have a point Tom, but making guns legal makes the life of murderers easier because now you can legally purchase a gun and kill people done!. that's actually a scary thought!
Because those 130 countries are literally leaa than 1/16 the size of this one with at least 200 million less guns.
Try to think a little more objectively so you can at least accept how different the USA is from almost any other country.
No shit. Studies have also shown that students who don't have a pencil flunk the exam they needed it to take and that people without knifes have a 0% chance to stab people with one.
The point is you cannot legislate guns out of the hands of the individuals who never gave a shit about the legislation in the first place. That's why they are called criminals.
My objective in life is to see the imperial system of the United States of America destroyed. Why exactly is it in my interest to reduce the homicide rate in this country? Especially when it's enemy voters in enemy cities killing each other?
I believe that people who don't drive cars don't have accidents. and people who don't have sex don't have kids. Its not science its common sense. Now science can prove a gun can't kill unless it's in someones hand to pull the trigger. I've seen that proof with my own eyes.
... I don't get it what science have to do here. Like if people don't have gun then they don't have anything to shoot with too.
If we take away thought itself, then no one would think about killing, so let's zap thoughts out of everyone's heads.
Again, your argument literally begs the question.
This actually a great solution!😂💯
Okay this is the dumbest question I have ever heard. Without guns how do people hunt or protect themselves? ALSO HOW CAN YOU SHOOT SOMEONE WITHOUT A GUN. Sorry from the south get mad at crap like this.
Why i need gun? Cus goverment will come after someones shot dead, and i dont want to be the one on the floor i rather do the shooting. Simple enough?
Science also has proven that criminals will not obey the law, hence the term criminal. For the law to be effective it has to be obeyed. Nice try though
Many people in America are not worried about “gun violence”, we’re worried about violence in general, and gun control makes us victims to all sorts of violence with little to protect ourselves.
Why are you concerned with U. S. regulations?
We already have plenty of regulations.
The hype about firearm violence in the U. S. is contrived.
Enjoy your tyranny. Tyrannies have wonderfully low crime rates too! (So long as you don't think of or dare call state tyranny as a crime, of course)
@goaded: That's isn't what happens, but thanks for making it clear that your sole concern is going after your political opponents.
And telling people that all they have to do is protest is pure gaslighting, and you know it. The elites don't care and may well find ways to criminalize you if they don't want your protests heard.
@Avicenna WTF are you on about? Do you think governments should be allowed to decide to do things that massive majorities of their country disagree with?
Of course you do. You think that marriage equality and the right of a woman to decide whether to bring her pregnancy to term should be decided by a quarter of the population.
@goaded; Of course I don't, but that is what in fact happens all the time. You probably don't notice because you support a lot of those elite-dictated policies that governments do all the time such as open borders. And you're mistaken about the amount of opposition to abortion (I assume you're also talking about same-sex marriage but I haven't seen polls on that in a long time).
And it should be mentioned that as a European living in Europe, your opinion about what goes on in the US needs to be taken with a grain of salt, especially since you live in a country with stricter abortion laws than those in the US.
@Avicenna Open borders were a 1970's Reagan policy; have workers come in for harvest time and go home afterwards: win-win.
"Record-High 70% in U. S. Support Same-Sex Marriage"
news.gallup.com/.../...port-same-sex-marriage.aspx
For abortion, llegal in all cases never beats 20%.
news.gallup.com/.../abortion-trends-party.aspx
@goaded: Abortion illegal or legal in all cases is a false binary choice- you're arguing a strawman. Illegal in all cases also prohibits abortion in cases of rape or incest and legal in all cases means up to birth. Both are extreme positions (and it's not clear that the polling actually spelled that out to the people they polled).
https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx
So is your claim that 25% of the population in the US is "dictating same-sex marriage"), which your own source says isn't accurate.
Open borders is the de facto US and German immigration policy pushed by elites against the wishes of most of the populations of both countries. But thanks for confirming that you support open borders.
@Avicenna Bullshit, of course.
Of course it's a false binary choice, but even Fox News finds the majority don't want Roe overturned.
"Open borders is the de facto US and German immigration policy"
Only if you define "open borders" as accepting genuine refugees, which is what the German constitution requires. Would you prefer Germany stopped following its laws? It didn't work out well last time.
@goaded: Everyone knows the vast majority of people claiming asylum are not genuine refugees and there is a lot more illegal entry, as the vast numbers of those in the country and "tolerated" indicates. It's also the case that when caught, illegals file a false asylum claim to prevent deportation.
You live in a country that doesn't do public referendums, by the way.
And a sample size of one poll doesn't do justice to the issue. And that's assuming the results aren't distorted by the way the questions were asked and who was polled.
www.wusa9.com/.../65-5c24a2d7-3f9b-4b3f-ab49-e15e590ee62c
@goaded: Immigration policies in general are one of the most important and primary ways governments ignore the will of the people. Here's an example from Germany from before Merkel's unilateral and undemocratic opening of the EU's entire borders:
de.statista.com/.../
@Avicenna Does the US do public referendums on your consitiution?
Everyone knows that "Everyone knows..." is the start of a lie.
Only Rasmussen (who also are consistently about 10% off everyone else's polls) say less than a majority support Roe.
a Gallup poll found that 58% of people say the Supreme Court should "not overturn" Roe v. Wade, and 32% support overturning it (June 2021)
a Pew Research poll found that 70% did not want the decision overturned, and 28% did (August 2021)
an ABC-The Washington Post poll found that 54% said the court should "uphold" the decision, 28% said they should "overturn" it and 18% indicated they had "no opinion" (April 2022)
a Rasmussen poll found that 45% of likely voters "disapprove of overturning" the decision and 48% "approve" (May 2022)
an Economist-YouGov poll found that 45% of Americans "would not like to see Roe v. Wade overturned," while 32% "would like to see" it and 23% said they were "not sure" (May 2022)
a Monmouth University poll found 62% wanted the court to "leave" it "as is," 31% said the court should "revisit" it and 7% said "don't know" (September 2021)
@Avicenna "Immigration policies..."
That was evenly divided 46 to 48%, well within the margin of error, and Merkel's party was the only major one for limiting immigration, and that was by only 51 - 45%. But here's the thing: allowing refugees in is the law. As I understand it, it's in the constitution.
The AfD is your Tea Party/QAnon party, popular in areas that soak up huge amounts of taxpayer funds then cry about paying taxes. At least in Germany they get their own party that nobody has to work with, they don't get to take over one of the major parties and take advantage of the lies that major party has been using for decades.
In the debate on free weapons in the US there are very strong cultural factors that are not easily countered. It would be a bit like banning the British from fried food, which as known is very bad.
Argue about it is useless.
I mean, ideally, a society without guns would be ideal. However, in the case of the United States of America, that ship has sailed. There are so many guns in America that if you don't have one, you're fucked.
Science also proves that guns without people don;t shoot people.
People can get illegal guns this happens all the time. black market weapons are sold all over the world including in the states
They use knives and whatever else they can find instead.
The arguments of the gun grabbers are contrary to reality and imbecilic.
Only good people respect the Law.
Forbidden or not, criminals will always have guns and you just creat a new type of traffic.
Things aren't that simple.
science also says that people without guns can't defend against people with guns. that would be the NRA argument.
Sure they never use bows or crossbows. What a complete twat. Go hang yourself retard.
They turn to other weapons of choice.
Autos, airplanes. Knives, fertilizer and diesel fuel, chemicals...
Where there's a will there's a way.
Yeah but it doesn't stop the people still with guns shooting them.
America has an obesity problem and Japan doesn't. Would taking away all the forks and making everyone use chopsticks cure Americas obesity issue?
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Was Israel or Switzerland included in this bogus study?
Well, using vehicles to kill lots of people has, unfortunately, proven to be an effective tactic.
@goaded: The people of Waukesha and Berlin, among other places, would beg to differ. But you knew that already, right?
www.dw.com/.../a-43300057
And that assumes they aren't able to build a truck bomb.
@goaded; LOL, that's NOT what the article said.
Unfortunately, the FBI and other law enforcement organizations don't exactly publicize the steps they take to prevent crime. I'm not aware of any report on the Las Vegas massacre ever being released. Has there been any discovery for any civil suits? The threat of similar style attack also exists in Europe and many other places.
@goaded; So you say. But, yes, it's not possible to reduce the number of attacks to zero, yet that is what proponents of disarming law-abiding firearms owners in the US insist would happen if firearms ownership were banned. A complete ban would put everyone at the mercy of violent criminals who would know that their targets are not armed and can't defend themselves against the criminals. It would also create complacency.
To prevent a relatively small number of attacks, taking firearms away from law-abiding people is not the solution. Nor would it even reduce the number of attacks. The best course of action, and it's not foolproof (nothing is) is to keep firearms away from the mentally ill, those making threats and those with a proven history of violence.
Well, yeah, nobody every said you can reduce risk to zero, and like I said to @slingblade1126 I'm not in favour of taking away all firearms, I just think people need a good reason other than "I'm scared of all the people with guns" to own one. That, and be evaluated for their sanity. (Someone once said: "all you have to do to buy a gun in America is to lie about your sanity".)
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