
Do you agree that homosexuality like racism is learned?

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I agree. Babies are like blank slates. They know NOTHING about life and the world around them but they quickly ABSORB things for sure. We learn everyday, all the time they said and just because you're over 40, does not mean you stop learning in life! Maybe you learn at a slower rate than a baby because you have more wisdom (and infomation that you've stored through out your life). But yes, I don't think anyone is BORN gay or racist simply because of what I've said! No one is born being attracted to the same sex! In fact, sexuality and babies shouldn't even BE in the same sentence! That's disgusting! Babies respond to outside stimulus just like we do, but at more "naive" level and they cry to get their physical, physicological and emotional needs met! That's how they communicate since they cannot talk yet!
All this crap about racism and homosexuality being inborn is CRAP! ... CRAP CRAP CRAP!!
Babies are curious as they should be naturally but that's about it! THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY HAVE GENITALS until they reach a certain age!
This question is interesting, but the answer can't be yes or no. Racism is indeed mostly learned, or at least encouraged, although basically every animal, humans included, are endowed with a form of intolerance on behalf of individuals not belonging to the same group.
The situation with homosexuality is quite different. Set aside a small percentage of people indeed learning or tricked into believing they're gay or lesbian, generally it's not a real choice, although often the result of a psychological treuma. Someone falling in love on the other hand is sincere, whatever the real psychological or genetic reasons.
Personally I'm convinced that the sexual drive has no gender in itself, although evolution led a male and female to procreate, which led the male-female principle to prevail, to the point of becoming the model imposed in many societies. .
In some situations, a normal hetero person can have relations with the same gender because the other gender not being available. That's something which has been observed for instance in cows and dogs. Often it's not the sex that's important but the urge to dominate.
There are still some people just choosing to be gay or lesbian. I know personally such a young guy. He had a real success with girls, and one day he met a guy. Something led him to doubt whether he'd continue his relation with his girlfriend or shift to his recently met friend. Ultimately he plainly decided to live with that friend. This guy really chose to be gay.
The subject of homosexuality is very complex and pointing to one cause is just silly and shortsighted.
I do not. Racism is learned, mostly during or after puberty. It is taught by parents, fellow students and government schools. Homosexuality is not necessarily taught nor necessarily inborn. It is a predisposition that can be triggered by social conditions.
Thats an admission that it requires an external force
Yes I agree. You can't say that a baby is racist or homophobic, they don't know what that is. In their minds people are just people and that's how it should always be.
People have forgotten how pure new life is
That's true.
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"Learned" is not 100% accurate word. More "acquired"
Research done at Broad Institute of Massachussets Institute of Technology showed that homosexuality is in over 90% of cases acquired during lifetime and genes play little role here. And Massachussets is quite a left-wing state, so I don't believe this results to be politically biased.
There was also a survey done about sexual abuse (different one) among heterosexuals and homosexuals. The results were that 47% of surveyed homosexuals said they were abused in the past while only 7% of heterosexuals said they were abused (and the groups were similar in numbers).
Yep, I agree :)
Most people don’t want to read the studies done that show that many, many people who are homosexual were abused at a young age. These studies were all stopped some time in the early 2000s for very obvious political reasons.
Usually a guy was sexually abused as a child and gets sexually confused. If a child witnessed multi murders all the time, they would think killing others was normal like cubs watch their mother kill other animals for food. If a father beats wife, sons will beat their wives. Reinforced conditional behavior. Just like the South eats foods people in the North wouldn't. Men in prison come out as bisexuals if they have no religion before they go in.
Not how this works.
There is no amount of trauma that will make you find a dick attractive if you are straight.
You do realize men/boys are more likely to be sexually assaulted right?
First, no they are not. Second, what does that have to do with anything?
Agree its like when people fetishize a woman's foot or ass.
There was a trigger in life that made you like it. Especially in the modern age where they are trying to shove their sick homo agenda on you left and right at a young age.
It's predatory behavior.
Human beings are straight by default. Anyone arguing this is a moron
That’s why I pity pedos because they’re just as much if not more victims as they are villains
Behind every pedo is an even sicker fuck who touched on them as a kid
Yes but I would rather call it developed hence "learned" sounds to me like it´s a decision a person makes to do so.
Because I don´t think it´s a choice either rather something that sublimely develops and isn´t spoken out.
I like your reply because you seem to have given this thought
Yes it´s a sensitive topic I´m kind of thinking about or struggling because neither sexuality in general and racism are ideas that are completely depending on your genes but at the same time they are one way or the other not a decision one makes.
True it isn't a choice. It's not something that you develop either. You either are born straight, gay or bi. You can't learn or develop into one.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Since when is there scientifical proof that sexuality is 100% genetic determinant? Because the last time I checked it genetics are said to play a role 8 to 25% in the development of sexuality. I´d therefore argue one can´t say he or she is born like that.
It's not genetic. It's not something that you pass to your children.
It's something you are born with that is related to you and you alone.
No one has to make heterosexual people like the opposite sex. Just like no one has to make a homosexual like the same sex.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 if it's not genetic you're not born with it. Because every biological part of yourself Iis genetically determined even the color of eyes.
But I agree with no has to like other sexual orientation. For me it's not about hat I just want to understand how sexual orientation develops.
I can tell you that is not in your DNA. If you are a child of a LGBT couple you are not more likely to be lgbt yourself.
I know gay people do exist. But recently the majority of “lgbt” youth are not actually lgbt. If they are we have a very serious problem because at current rates everyone in the Western world is going to be gay by the mid 2050’s. That sounds like a joke, but look at the stats for the last century compared to the last 10 years.
@Wubs3000 yes but we should dial it back there’s tolerance and then there’s perversion
@Wubs3000 i don’t hate gays I cannot support that lifestyle though but there are radicals on the left who just want total control I’ve met gays who think homosexual marriage is wrong and don’t support gay pride parades because they aren’t about what they were originally made for sorry for the linguistics in moderately intoxicated rn
Dont know. I think its mostly born, as in some are born with synapses more agreeable to that orientstion. But evnironment and upbringing influences everyone, too.
Why aren't we spending millions to find out? Oh because no one cares why theyre gay.
I think that nobody just immediately knows their gay. I think that most people start off thinking their straight or they realise it later in life. Most people I've asked about this tell me they started off dating women.
Well what’s around you is what you learn so yeah sounds reasonable
You are still young so let's educate you.
Do only gay parents have gay kids? No of course not.
So it's not about what is around you, it's about what they are.
That was a bad example most gay people come from broken and abusive families
That is false. By all means show me the source of that information
Alright if you’re that much of a glutton for being proven wrong
You should read things before you post them.
Yes LGBT people are victims of crime more often due to intolerance and discrimination.
But your argument is that they become LGBT because they are exposed to those crimes. It's the other around. They are exposed to those crimes because they are LGBT.
They are LGBT first and they become more victims of crime second.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 LOOK OUT THE WAY NANCY, look out the way
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What was that?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 It’s not disrespectful if it’s an objective fact. You probably love cheese
And what is this objective fact? Because nothing you said so far qualifies as such.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 you’re splitting hairs that’s the same thing
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 how many gay people do you know personally because this is very common a 6 year old who doesn’t know what sex doesn’t know what gay is
Gay people that I call friends or close relatives? None.
That I meet over my life? A few.
Why does that matter?
A 6 year old won't know what is heterossexual sex is either. Unless it was told to him at some point.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Not sure, I must have forgotten. Butt that point is……… you Twippin Twippin
@Dinosaursandanime65 Didn't understood a thing you said.
In English this time. Try to have a coherent thought first and then write it down.
They don’t need to be taught heterosexuality it’s already ingrained puberty is just your body preparing to pass on genes homosexuals can’t do that because it’s not natural
Yeah, what he said
Who said sex was all about passing genes?
Even other animals like dolphins do sex for pleasure only. They literally kill squids to use them to masturbate.
Many other animals mate with members of their own sex for life.
This is not exclusive to humans. To say it's not national is misinformation.
Do you know that there are a race of Mexican lizards, all female and all lesbians. They reproduce by parthenogenesis and the process starts by them caressing each other.
So bring the "it's not natural" or "it doesn't pass on genes" arguments.
It is natural. And we don't fuck just for the sake of reproduction.
@Dinosaursandanime65 read my answer to him. You are still young you need to learn some biology.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 so do you lol
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 we literally do it’s a survival instinct animals do that stuff because they’re animals they also have sex with they’re young are you implying pedophilia is natural also parthenogenesis is asexual reproduction it doesn’t require sex to create new life sex is for reproduction otherwise you just sound like a pervert
So I do what?
You said homosexuality was not natural. Well it is. I didn't said that everything that is natural should be accepted. But being natural is not a good argument for or against anything.
Regarding parthenogenesis, that was just an example that heterosexuality is not always the reproductive method in nature.
There is nothing you can say that will make homosexuality something bad. Or not normal.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 two questions: Is being gay okay? Scientifically how is homosexuality normal when those body parts weren’t designed to go together ?
Yes being gay or lesbian is perfectly fine. Why wouldn't be.
Neither was the mouth designed to be part of sex and yet people still do oral all the time. Is oral not natural too?
Again, humans just like many animals have homosexual relationships. So what? What is the bug deal?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 if being gay is fine then why do you care if it’s natural or not? Also you didn’t answer the second question
Yes I did. I gave an example of another body part that doesn't go together with our sexual organs and yet is very much used in sex. In other words "those parts don't go together" is not an argument against anything.
I never cared if being gay is natural or not. You were the one that said being gay isn't natural.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 it’s not natural and how is that not an argument it’s proof that homosexuality is unnatural dicks belong in pussy these two body parts fit together they were made for each other your whole argument is that if anyone or anything does it then it’s natural people smoke and drink all the time that doesn’t make it natural that shit doesn’t belong in our bodies
Again...
A mouth is also not meant for a pussy. Or for a dick. Yet people connect them all the time. Should they stop doing it? Do you think that is wrong?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 mouths are for eating I would encourage people to keep them clean
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 what the heck is wrong with you why don’t you know what your body parts are for
I am trying to make you understand that just because a body part wasn't "make for another" doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with doing it for the sake of pleasure.
Like I said before, even other animals do that. Dolphins use the corpses of squids to masturbate.
When we humans do mouth to genital, is also for the sake of pleasure. We humans fuck for the sake of pleasure. Not just for reproduction.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 ok I get it you just have perverse idea of what sex is about animals doing it doesn’t make it right if you want to behave like an animal then go live with them human society has laws built on the foundation of objective truth and the truth is homosexuality is unnatural penises belong inside of vaginas and no other hole
Humans are animals.
I ask again, are you against people having sex for pleasure? Not for reproduction, just for pleasure?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 that question doesn’t make sense because sex is already pleasurable if it was only had for reproduction it would still be so and human beings are not animals that’s just an excuse people with no self control use animals are driven primarily by instinct humans can use reason
We are animals. Specifically we are great apes. That is a biological fact.
So to you sex can only be vagina to dick? Never vagina to mouth for example?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 no it’s not a fact evolution is theoretical and is dick to vagina not natural? You either have one or the other they go together
We have more proof for evolution than we have for gravity!
Answer my question. Are you against sex acts that involve a mouth?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 yes I am against things that are used in a different manner than from what it was made for
So by this “person’s” logic, does he (or she, actually probably something made-up) mean to tell us that things like Zoophilia is also normal? Because clearly if being gay is “normal” then what’s stopping anyone like him from thinking a Koala is sexy?
@Dinosaursandanime65 not at all what I said. Can you read?
He said that homosexuality is not natural. I used other animals to show that it is.
I never said anything about humans having sex with other animals.
@creampiekarl420 you are very alone in that fight then.
The saw was originally made as a torture device that was then used to cut wood. But that logic we should never have used it to cut wood to begin with.
Anyway whatever you like it or not, humans have sex for pleasure. And we use every body part we have to do so. This is a reality.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Although sadly not all of it is seen…
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Two questions...
1. Not all of what is seen?
2. Even after you answer will it make any sense in the context of the conversation?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 the reality you mentioned. Also, Noot Noot
I said that humans have sex for pleasure. That is not arguable. We absolutely do.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 so if sex was had for any other reason would it not be pleasurable?
@Dinosaursandanime65 why do you have more sense than him?
@creampiekarl420 you don't know that humans have sex for pleasure and I am the one that lacks reason?
I don't understand your question. Sex is pleasurable. We have specific body parts that make it so. Those parts can be stimulated with mouth hands genitalia, you name it. Why is this an issue?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 let me rephrase if it is already pleasurable what’s the problem with it only being used for reproduction
Because people want to make it more pleasurable. Are you really trying to find reasons as to why people shouldn't use other body parts for sex?
And for what? Just so you can say that anal sex is wrong? Give up. Every inch of your body can be used in sex.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 every part of my body isn’t a reproductive organ especially made for sex and to make it more pleasurable? So you’re saying homosexuality is just about hedonism and perversion ( duh )
So what if every part of the body is not a sexual organ? They can still be used in sex. And you know that people do use in sex other body parts right?
By that definition all sex is perversion and hedonism.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 yes but not the kind that’s had for reproduction
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 only because it bares fruit something is produced created from it what is created from gay sex besides pride parades and AIDS
And you think people have sex just for reproduction?
What is created from gays? Love, a family and happy lives. Same thing heterosexuals create.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 yea that’s why they spend thousands on what straight couples get for free
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 surrogates and adoption gays can’t make babies
Actually they can. There are lgbt celebrities that have children. Yes made by them. Bisexuals are a thing you know?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 did they make those children with homosexual or heterosexual sex?
@creampiekarl420 I could ask you the same thing
@Dinosaursandanime65 wym my guy?
@Dinosaursandanime65 what?
They made them with bisexual sex.
And again... We don't just have sex for reproduction. Why you keep insisting on that?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 that’s literally why we have sex and you probably think that’s clever saying bisex but that just proves the point further that gays can’t have children can a biological male impregnate another biological male?
No he can't. But we don't just have sex for the sake of reproduction. Why does that confuses you so much?
Sex is much more than just reproduction.
@creampiekarl420 What I was implying is, you are normal and this other guy who thinks it’s cool and not in any way abnormal or whatever to remove your genitals and then go on Twitter. com #GurMondays telling everyone you’re a girl even though your Birth Certifisis still says male
@Dinosaursandanime65 when did the conversation became about cutting off genitals?
You are not even listening.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 first you said “bEiNg GAY Is NoRmal, Let “people” Be WhO (what actually is the correct term) tHeY wANna be”. Then you talked about trans or something. Either way, you Tweakin Tweakin. You’re the type of person who would say Jurassic Park is a bad movie, or Dragon Ball Evolution is a good movie. HHKEIDH WOWOSODIDJW
@Dinosaursandanime65
You said that I was in favor of cutting people's genitals.
Saying being gay is normal or that trans should have rights is not even close to to say "I want everyone to cut off their genitals"
Simples questions, do you have something against gay people? If so what?
And by the way I liker Jurassic Park.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 They are basically Homunculi
Aren't Homunculus fictional man made creatures? What does that have to do with anything?
@Dinosaursandanime65 and you’re like half his age but still you know better 💯
@Dinosaursandanime65 That’s pretty funny
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 technical homunculus are just a theory it’s only fictional if it’s impossible but considering we have the technology for cloning homunculus are very real it just hasn’t been attempted very much …yet
If this conversation was ridiculous before... Now we are talking about fictional creatures. Do you believe in santa claus too?
I mean you think humans only have sex for reproduction so maybe you do believe in santa claus. It's an equally ridiculous belief.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 do you have proof thats it’s fictional? Tell me what you know about embryology because a homunculus is actually quite possible
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 name one reason for sex to exist besides reproduction they’re literally called REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS!
Are you being serious? Did I end up in Narnia and no one told me?
No really dude, do you have even the most basic grasp on reality?
Then why so many humans do it with no intention of reproducing?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 My point about Homunculi is they are artificial, artificial can mean fake. A lot of fake things are supposed to or shouldn’t exist. So basically, gays and trans shouldn't exist.
@Dinosaursandanime65 and why do you say that? What do you have against them?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Well one, it’s perversion at its peak, the only way it could get worse is if non human beings got involved which says a lot. Just generally weird, anyone who doesn’t think it is probably thinks DBE is the best movie ever, which also says a bunch. Also, being gay is sexist because it implies that woman are irrelevant, there are two genders for a reason (s).
It could also lead to a population disorder if people really do become THAT stupid
Unless human cloning is also normalized like all of the other bs
And in conclusion, it can only get worse from there if no one of these “people” realize what horrendous mistakes they’re doing. Like Ian Malcolm said in Dominion, “you’re racing towards the extinction of our species”. And it’s happening now. Humans and Demons are not gon a be forced to coexist
You really are a kid.
1. Gays will never make us extinct because there will always be straight people like us to reproduce.
2. Being gay is not a choice. Gays don't chose their sexuality any more than we did. So it's not a disorder.
3. Why is it perversion? Heterosexual couples also have anal sex. You don't have a problem with that do you?
4. Sexism is prejudice against a gender. Which you very much have.
Also you know that women can be gay right?
Sexual orientation is not sexism. Because even if I feel attracted to women I don't discriminate gays.
@Dinosaursandanime65 you the goat bro you’re schooling someone twice your age😂🤣💯
That coming from someone like you who has no grasp on reality doesn't mean much. Is like pointing at Eddie Hall and call him weak. Means nothing.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Eddie hall couldn’t beat Tyson and coming from you that mean as about as someone calling Michael Jordan trash (is ineffective) like your arguments?🙄🤚
@creampiekarl420 Preferably lamb but okay yes. Are there any animals in all of history that evolved to be faggots? Seahorses don’t count. Because if there aren’t, then I declare that as my evidence as to why being gay IS a choice and isn't natural
@Dinosaursandanime65 slaughter rules kid Jesus 💯#BigFacts
Excuse me? I hope that doesn’t mean the way it sounded
@creampiekarl420 answering your question yes!
There are a species of Mexican lizards that are all lesbian females that at one point in time had males. Overtime they evolved into just females that divide over parthenogenesis. Funny thing is the process of reproduction stats when they caress each other. In another words, an animal... that had males... evolved into being just made out of lesbians... that have lesbian sex to reproduce.
This is 100% true. Feel free to Google it.
See how not well informed you are?
@Dinosaursandanime65 see this and learn something too.
@creampiekarl420 you are naive if you think Eddie Hall couldn't take Tyson. But I didn't talk about fighting skill. I talked about strength. Pure strength. Lifting stuff.
Also I never mentioned Tyson. I said that you saying that the kid is teaching me, is like saying Eddie Hall is weak.
A comparison to show you how ridiculous the statement is coming from you.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 thanks for the lesson in zoology but if you’ll remember human beings aren’t goddamn lizards @Dinosaursandanime65 no don’t take that the wrong way 😅
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 my point was that he isn’t weak but far from the strongest and no he couldn’t take him not just because the gap in skill but Eddie’s body was built off static lifting movements that’s why he is more bulky than aesthetic
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 should’ve said Arnold bro
I was asked for any animal that evolved into a "faggot". Aside from the sea horse. Well I gave an example. Easy uh?
Finally, literally any mammal has homosexual relationships. Even lions do. Just like humans, because humans are animals.
Again, I was talking about pure strength, not in a fight. Again, I was just using it as a comparison for you to understand how meaningless your words were. Again your grasp on reality is slim at best.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Good argument, however, your mom. Also, reptiles are relatively extremely different from mammals.
You asked for another animal other than the sea horse. I gave you one.
Now you say you want a mammal. Very well hyenas.
Males are the low tier in hyenas. As soon as newborn female arrives she outranks any male in the social hierarchy.
Female hyenas even have a penis and give birth through it. Yes it is as bad as it sounds, but it's true you can Google it.
Males tend to the cubs and females hunt. Males eat last and get bullied on a regular basis by the females.
Any other zoology lesson that you need?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 ok you’re still missing the point that it’s unnatural because none of our species has ever started a family by having sex with the same gender it’s so unnatural that you can only defend it with exceptions to the rule
False.
Homosexual penguins and ducks do adopt lost babies and start a family with them.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 can a baby be made from two male humans having sex? Yes or no
No. So what? People don't have sex just for reproduction. We never have and we never will.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 it doesn’t matter that doesn’t make gay sex normal and you just admitted to it And also just implied that homosexuality is a choice so thanks you can’t pass your genes on without heterosexual sex reproduction is the whole purpose for sex it’s something our bodies do naturally for survival no one has to teach anyone to be straight
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 and wym so what that’s your rebuttal for this huge hole in your argument? Really? Come on man
1. I never said it was not normal
2. I never implied it was a choice.
3. Fertilization in vitro can cause a life with no need for heterosexual sex.
4. You will always ALWAYS have both homosexual and straight people. The straight people will produce most of the babies. So we can have both and still continue existing. So what's the problem?
5. What hole in my argument?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 gays aren’t produced naturally because they can’t be
The big hole is that gays can’t make babies with each other man needs a woman and vice versa your parents failed you if you don’t understand that and who has 12k just lying around for in vitro? When dick and Pussy is free
I Willa now be a Reff, Creampie Guy takes the lead with a great counter argument which I think he’s been trying to make clear to his opponent for quite a while. I don’t think it’s too hard to understand, at this point Mr. Opinion is just lying to himself. No time to read the list, APPROVED
So you argument for gays aren't produced naturally is "they can't be". For it to be a good point you have to say why they can't be.
And since they can because they are both humans and other animals, you in fact have no argument here.
Again, sex is not done just for the sake of reproduction. And there are many other homosexual animals in the wild. That even raise babies together. How can you say it's not natural when it happens in nature so often?
@Dinosaursandanime65 very well Mr reff.
I counter with gays are made naturally and are indeed natural because they happen often in nature. How can they not be natural if nature makes them?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Just because animals do it doesn’t make it normal they are lesser creatures who don’t set the standards because they are animals and will fuck anything are couches for pleasure too because they’ll hump those too because they’re dumb animals they don’t think ew I can’t have sex with another male they’ll fuck anything you doofus
You said "natural". Natural you can't argue it isn't since it happens in nature.
Now if you want to argue if it is normal or not... Why not?
By the way humans are animals. This is basic biology.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 because it happens in nature that makes it natural no it’s not an inherent trait so it not natural our most basic instinct is to survive gays can’t because they can’t pass their genes on no matter how much sex they have they instead give each other diseases and die it’s not normal at all penis and vaginas were made for one another. Fuck biology this stuff is common sense
Well unless animals also emerged into time from dirt then they are decently different from us. You two are now tied, the Lizard thing was a decent point I must admit. However, unless you want to be thrown into walls unimaginably intensely, torn like a kids Christmas present, and other unspeakable things then just abolish your sinful thinking
@Dinosaursandanime65 Amen. Mate
"because it happens in nature that makes it natural" this sentence makes no sense.
Also not everything you do is about survival of the species.
Neither biology or logic are on your side. You just said that they give each other diseases. Straight people do that too. You say they can't pass their genes, yes they can with in vitro fertilization. You said that penis are made for pussy, well straight people also use mouth, ass, hands, toys, feet, etc. And logic is on your side? Give me a break! Sex is not just about reproduction. Relationships are not just about reproduction. That is a fact that you can't run from.
Sinful thinking? I am an atheist.
@Dinosaursandanime65 see this all he can do is deflect at this point …sad
Some people just hate so much they forget what anything good is.
I am not deflecting at all, you are the one who can't go around my points. And I can even name them.
1. People have sex for more than just reproduction.
2. Homosexuality exists everywhere in nature.
Those are the two key points here that you have nothing against.
I can add a third one.
Research has been done on the matter. Science has tried to see if homosexuality is genetic, if it is malformation, a disease, etc. They did it mostly because decades ago it was illegal to be homosexual, and in many counties today it still is. Well the world health organization never found anything other than, gays are regular people who simply feel attraction for the same gender.
So...
3. Science agrees with me.
But tell me what is your problem with them?
They are just people living their lives asking to be happy. They don't influence your or my life at all. What is the issue you have with them?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I didn’t mean a literal disease. Here’s a basic way to say it: People like them before they were gay or did whatever weird stuff they did to themselves, were like socks. Evil beyond the flesh, is allowed to mess with them because they don’t seek God. First they manipulate you, then you realize what actually has happened typically when it’s too late. At least it will feel that way, thank God (literally) I don’t know. You, aren’t there yet, but don’t expect that bridge to not appear when the time comes.
But to actually answer your question, it’s not them it’s their choices.
@Dinosaursandanime65 you’re right bro people like him don’t even realize the irony that being gay is not normal and people like him have to argue to normalize it ignoring facts and science
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 okay then tell me how two biological men can make a baby on their own with no external interference?
How does it being in nature make it natural? Are Rape , incest and pedophilia natural because animals do all of that too?
How is science on your side you’re trying to prove that homosexuality is natural and brought up asexual lizards that have nothing to do with being gay
@Dinosaursandanime65 the problem with that is that is not possible to influence one to be homosexual. You either are or you aren't.
But just because they can't make a baby together that means that they shouldn't be together? Why? Why should two people that live each other stay apart just because they can't make a baby?
I said it before. You asked if it was "natural". To be natural and to be right or wrong are two different things. Natural, yes. Right? Also yes because they are not doing anything harmful to anyone.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Yes, homosexual behaviour occurs in nature not just among human beings It also occurs in other species so do rape incest cannibalism and warfare being natural is not the same as being good
By bearing resolutely in mind that nature contains many splendid and useful things and also many deadly and disgusting things so that good and natural aren’t even close to synonyms
I just agreed that natural doesn't mean good.
We are all natural, we not all good.
But what about homosexuality is bad?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 it’s spreads disease instead of creating life
Spreads disease? How so?
Everyone can give STDs while having sex. Straight, gay doesn't matter, we all have the potential to spread diseases with sex.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 two married virgin man and woman cannot give each other an STD hooking up and faggotry spreads disease
Actually they can. STDs don't spread with just sex. Aids can be passed by any form of blood contact and herpes can be transmitted orally.
But who told you gays can't reach their marriage virgins?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 no two married virgins can’t give each other an STD 🙄 dude your arguments are just childish and sad at this point being gay will kill you it’s just creates disease even two married virgin gays have to be very cautious sexually while a married straight virgin couple can have all the sex they want contract no disease and have children
Did you read what I said?
STDs are not passed just by sex. Also by sex, but not just by sex. So yes a virgin can have them.
I ask again, who told you that gays can't be virgins when they marry?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 that wildly unlikely and rare you’d literally have to drink someone else’s blood or something to get an STD as a virgin like I said dude your arguments are weak 😂
my point being that gay sex is detrimental to health and spreads and creates disease straight sex is not only good for you but creates life fruitfulness and prosperity
That is not true. Herpes can be passed by a simple kiss.
Also drinking blood is not a way to pass AIDS. You need contact with your bloodstream.
Again, both straight and gay people pass on diseases. The same ways. There is no difference there.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 herpes isn’t deadly you donut! Gay sex is
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 two virgin straight people can have raw unprotected sex and never contract and STD two virgin gays will have to walk on eggshells to have sex because there’s too much risk involved
Some things science can’t explain
@Dinosaursandanime65 this clown just said Sexually Transmitted Diseases aren’t spread by sex none of this is scientific 😂
I don’t understand that statement.
?
What? Gay sex is deadly? Why?
I said...
Sexually transmitted diseases are NOT JUST, pay close attention now, NOT JUST transmitted by sex.
AIDS for example can be transmitted to you by stabbing person with AIDS with a fork in their hand and then stab your hand next with the same fork. No sex. Still transmitted.
You have no scientist knowledge.
Two people, mer or women, who don't have any STDs have no chance of passing one during sex. Regardless if they are having it with someone of the same gender or not.
STDs don't care where you put your dick. It can be an ass, a mouth, a vagina, doesn't matter. STDs passe anyway.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 do you know else is severely diagnosed with AIDS?
@Dinosaursandanime65 tell me.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 You don’t know any gay people then because they have to be very careful when having sex because they’ll get HIV even if they are virgins because men are not supposed to fuck men
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 or else you would realize that gay men have a severely increased chance of catching HIV men were not made to fuck men it’s unnatural
@creampiekarl420 how can two gay men who do not have HIV transmit it?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 by having sex with the same gender if an anus is made for pooping how are two men supposed to have sex … they aren’t because men are not made to fuck men
But you can't transmit a disease that you don't have. Are you being serious right now? You think they just conjure HIV in their bodies by magic?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 what is a penis made for?
No one takes the lead, this argument seems meaningless now, since I don’t understand you people that much and Mr. Opinion insists that Human Faggot-try is fine anyways
Answer my question and then I answer yours. How can two homosexuals pass a disease they don't have?
@Dinosaursandanime65 he just implied that homosexuals pass diseases without even having them and I don't take the lead? Bias referee.
Also what is wrong with them? Why do you care if they lay with people of the same sex or not? Why two women having sex with each other is a problem?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 That’s not gonna work, I’ve heard it- seen it too many times. One can only vomit so much. I believe I already answered that and if you’re not satisfied then there’s a very special book that can answer it clearly and teach you some other amazing things.
Are you going to say the bible? That has been proven wrong countless times. From talking animals, to saying the earth is flat and a global flood, etc. All false.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 you have no proof that the Bible is wrong I already answered your question
No you didn't. You haven't explained how they can conjure a disease they don't have from thin air.
Also I have plenty of proof the bible is wrong. Starting with the earth not being flat.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I did answer despite your question being rhetorical and answering itself and where in the Bible does it say anything about the shape of the earth?
Well actually it’s been proven correct many times (even though it wasn’t necessary), but they were never good ways. You probably praise a Golden Cow statue
No, you haven't given me an answer for that. If you have, by all means say it again.
About the bible I don't know the page it is said, but yes the bible does describe the earth as flat. Which is a complete lie.
@Dinosaursandanime65 what was proven correct many times? The bible? Sure it has some historical accurate passages, but mostly is pure fiction.
I don't praise anything I am an atheist.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Oh, you praise yourself. One of the worst mistakes in those terms. Well enjoy never seeing anything and a bunch of other unspeakable things
@Dinosaursandanime65 wrong. I paise nothing. And no one.
Specifically not an imaginary deity.
@creampiekarl420 Are you a Man of God?
I wouldn’t put it like that but I respect judeo Christian ethics and the teachings of Christ the redeemer I aspire to uphold these morals
Its foolish to say god is imaginary when you have no proof you’re gambling with an eternity of suffering
Say he isn’t real neither is heaven or hell and when we die GAME OVER it’s just lights out
But what if you’re wrong? Are you really willing to take that risk? A true fool. All Christ asked is that we believe and people are too stubborn to give him a chance
Allow me to rephrase in a more… relatable way. Are you Christian? It kinda seems like you only look at it from an objective perspective…. If you are, then I have a request. Go to my most recent post, the one where I prove Christianity right attempting to educate the Spiritual Retards. So far 6 people shared, and about 80-90% are still unbelievably yet also unironically stupid. “SoMeoNE’s puTTiNg IDEAs iN tHis kId’S hEad” and all that. I understand if there is absolutely not use in trying to help “people” like them in these terms but I mean, why not?
What if I am wrong?
Means nothing. Why? Because even if God exists he is not the God from the bible.
Because the bible is a bunch of nonsensical lies. Literally nearly everything in there has been proven false.
So even if there is a God, we know nothing about him or her. So why worry?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 first off the message of the Bible is clear it’s a book of laws how can laws be proven false yes we do know a lot about God we learn a lot of his ways when you read his word Islam, Judaism and Christianity the message is the same
@creampiekarl420I bet this filthy casual doesn’t even know what BIBLE stand for
@Dinosaursandanime65 the bible in the new testament supports genocide, slavery, raping women as long as you marry them after. Etc.
@creampiekarl420 the bible has a lot more than just laws. And even those laws were not practiced by christians over the ages. Look at the dark ages and inquisition.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 apologies for forgetting, I meant the Holy Bible
So did I.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 but did you get the message “people didn’t practice it” isn’t a good enough reason surely at your age you must realize mankind’s capacity for evil
Actually they did practice it. Only it was their interpretation of it.
And that is the issue. The moment you post a book as the top authority the ones that claim to speak for that book will be the top authority. And they can interpreter it as they like.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 thats why we’re supposed to read and think for ourselves
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 our laws today come from the Bible
We would be screwed if they did!
Not long after God gave the commandments to Moses, he tasked Moses to kill and entire community.
Oh but he kept the young girls alive, the virgin ones. That's the biblical God.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 stop taking god out of context tell the whole story or don’t
You must be taking about some Muslin thing or something be that doesn’t sound like him. And he’s also saved people like you
This is not out of context.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 share.icloud.com/photos/0d5GRDDjD6YzxiJqWhZ_HDKhg read the comment on the bottom.
The 2 cannot be compared. You can't learn to be gay. You can learn to accept it as an every day thing, but being gay is part of attraction; you can't help who you're attracted to. Racism is indeed learned
Yes people are born being gay.
Your sexual orientation is not possible to change.
Apply this to yourself. Do you think that no matter what people told you that you could be attracted to dick? No right?
Same for them. No matter what they would always dislike pussy.
Absolutely yes
some idiots really think you are born gay
which is totally false
Being homosexual is a choice. They choose to be disgusting in liu of the harsh demands of normalcy.
How is homosexuality like racism?
Racism is behavior and thoughts, and you can re-train those if you want to. Homosexuality is attraction, and you can't re-train that, you can just—again—re-train your behavior.
Homosexuality is behavior and thoughts also no one is born knowing that they have to be taught what gay even is
Lol okay so by that logic everyone is born asexual, and if nobody taught them what sex was then they would never think about or have sex AT ALL?
Or are you saying this only applies to certain sexualities, and not others? Because not all sexualities are thoughts and actions?
Maybe the made up ones aren’t everyone is born pure stop sexualizing children
I'm not sexualizing children. Being straight doesn't mean you are born and want sex. It means as you mature you will be attracted to the opposite sex. Like how once you mature you will be able to have kids. That doesn't magically pop into existence at a certain age, it was always there it just has to develop, along with the person, to maturity. Same with other sexualities.
But it seems you're claiming that sex as a whole is not natural, all sexuality has to be taught. And one implication of this is obviously that everybody is born asexual, and if you didn't teach them anything about sex then even when they are an adult they would not want or have sex, because they haven't been taught to be straight or gay.
Heterosexuality doesn’t need to be taught it’s instinctive homo genes can’t be passed down no one is born gay something unnatural has to occur to make a person gay
Okay so you think sexuality has to be passed down like genes. But teaching someone otherwise would conpletely override... their genes. Just like you can teach someone to have brown eyes instead of blue eyes, or to grow boobs instead of balls?
But even so, say they actually are like genes, that would strongly imply that you *are* born that way. You do know what recessive genes are, correct? Also you know gay people aren't infertile, they *can* have children if they choose to?
Okay I’m gonna need you to stop doing these mental gymnastics because you don’t know what you’re talking about and you’re gonna end up looking really dumb if you fight me on this instead of listening
And what about these alleged genes where did they come from? Certainly not from gays who can’t have children
Bro I'm doing mental walk in a straight line. Have you not thought about what what you're saying means for two seconds? Fine you don't want me to embarrass myself, I appreciate that. You're right it's not like I really know anything about being homo or heterosexual anyway.
*You* alleged the genes. I do not think sexuality is genetic. I just pointed out that being gay does not make you infertile.
It pretty much does they’re basically incels
Incels are not infertile either...
Yes but they can’t get pussy without payment or rape
Okay...
Do you know what a beard is, homosexually?
A fake girlfriend right? Usually used by DL men
I don’t hate gays I don’t support the lifestyle but it’s learned behavior it’s unnatural it has to be taught
I'm just not sure why you think homosexuality has to be taught and *can* be taught when you also think heterosexuality is innate and genetic.
Could *you* learn to be gay?
Are you implying that people are born gay because that SCIENTIFICALLY is impossible tell ya what ask gay men how many of them were sexually abused or grew up without fathers and were closer to their mothers or sisters you’ll notice a common pattern men are more likely to be sexually assaulted than women are men rape boys and destroy their confidence as men our egos are extremely fragile a man that is taken like a woman will not want anything to do with women sexually he will not see himself as a man anymore
Look I understand that there's a significantly higher amount of abuse accompanying LGBT people, and I'm not sure why that is. But correlation does not equal causation. Being gay *could* be caused by abuse, you could be right, but the fact "many gay people have been abused" alone does not prove this.
If you are right and that's how it works, then that would mean all you need to do to un-learn being gay is un-learn sexism. Because men would not think of themselves as women because of being raped if they did not think of women only as victims and men only as predators.
Do you think that helping gay men un-learn their sexism would help them un-learn their homosexuality?
No because homosexuality isn’t what they need to unlearn it was a choice made by a damaged ego that cannot see itself as a heterosexual male after being penetrated like a female and on the heterosexual side I believe that sex is reduced as just a sexual thing and it makes men feel they need to be on top and assert themselves over women but it should be a special bonding spiritual mental and emotional bonding experience not just physical which it is because look at the damage it does confusing children
Okay I'm not sure if I followed that. Tell me if I'm understanding you.
Because sex is only seen as physical, men feel the need to be dominant, and they feel like women if they are dominated. But if sex was treated like the full experience it should be, then nobody would associate the (purely physical) dominant as men and submissive as women. This would mean men who have been raped would not feel like women anymore and so not be gay anymore, and boys who will unfortunately be victims will no longer be confused as a result because they know sex is not just physical and being penatrated does not make them a woman.
Does that sound right?
No because it excuses the crime which should have never been committed anyways
I'm sorry where did I excuse the crime? Just because it wouldn't make them gay anymore doesn't mean it's not rape anymore. Good grief that's not the only reason you think rapists should be punished is it?
This is so hard to explain because you don’t understand men
And I don’t think rapist should be punished at all but that’s a different discussion
I was just trying to repeat what you said about men in context. Why don't you try one instead so I don't mess it up again. If you do think men become gay because they view themselves as women, then what's something that they could be taught (or un-taught) so that they view themselves as men again?
I didn’t say they see themselves as women but that they don’t see themselves as men
Okay.. what could they be taught or un-taught to help them see themselves as men again?
You can’t get unfucked
... so why aren't all male rape victims gay?
Because rapist always ghost 😑
Ghosting doesn't unfuck them either..
naw I don’t think so... these 2 things can’t be compared
You don't think racism is the norm? If that's the case why is it so hard for ethnic minorities to even get a job?
Then again, if homosexuality is learned how come two siblings raised exactly the same way can have different sexual orientations?
I’d be gay as the springtime if that was true, lmfao. So you’re saying that YOU could LEARN to suck a dude’s dick?🤔
Let’s keep this PG bro lol
Lmfao, my B, my B😂
Actually someone taught me the right way lol.
Yes that is what he is saying.
I don't agree, I don't think people learn to be homosexual lmao
Like most aspects of human behavior, I suspect it's a combination of 'nature' and 'nurture'.
My brain replaced homosexuality for homophobia, so one of the yeses is a no or a half no I guess
usimg absolite words like always, never, no one, everyone, is a good way to almost always be wrong. this world is vast. i am sure somone was born gay and/or racist.
we have studies on identical twins where one turns out gay and not the other. so it isn't genetics
but racism is biological. all humans are born racist
It’s learned. Taught by horny pple.
Not with homosexuality but with transgenderism, transgenderism is learned.
Probably, but who cares?
Nope. Racism and sexual orientation are not comparable.
In this instance they are both learned behaviors
No one is saying that homosexuality is taught. We are saying that homosexuals are made. Something happened to them in early childhood. Studies support this. So no, it’s not a choice. It’s a result of life.
@Agagagagaga exactly
Its caused by stress during pregnancy.
I think it's earned
Did anyone see Blue Lagoon?
The Roman novel or the movie well never mind because I didn’t see the movie
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