There is no right and wrong. Here is my (fairly) simple "proof":
Right and wrong are based on the idea of good and evil. Pretty simple concepts, right? Things like pain, death, suffering, those are evil/wrong. Things like joy, love, nurturing, those are good/right.
But the reason there is no good/evil or right/wrong is because of perspective. People are complex, so I will give a simple animal example. You can easily find human examples with this basic idea:
For a squirrel, not being eaten by a bobcat is good. Being eaten by a bobcat is bad.
For a bobcat, not eating a squirrel is bad. Eating a squirrel is good.
Everything in this world benefits some organism or system, and is detrimental to some other organism or system. It's the balance of life.
The Yang-Yang symbol. It shows there is a little bit of light in the darkness, and a bit of darkness in the light. They are inseparable. Even light and dark, are they good or bad? Light is bad for some organisms that thrive in the dark and die in the light, and vice versa for other organisms.
Humans place "right and wrong" on things, but who are humans? Just more animals on the planet. And the universe is so vast, it doesn't have a "right and wrong". It doesn't care if the humans are all holding hands and singing songs, or if they are ripping each other's throats out. Planets keep spinning, universe keeps expanding, everything goes on and the universe doesn't shed a tear.
You can make your own right and wrong, and you might as well, since you're a human. I think the best choices will be made once you have the most information, and even better choices if you get more information and adjust your choices accordingly. But then again, that's just my subjective human opinion.
It depends mostly on your philosophy.
But, generally speaking, if you have a conscience that isn’t desensitized, you will be able to intuitively feel what is right and what is wrong.
I follow my own set of morals and listen to others with an open mind before I make a decision I thouroughly think things through about adding or subtracting from my list. I also take in what my gut thinks is right, and how society has progressed into my thoughts.
Some things like murder and rape are wrong no matter what. Actually rape is worse cause sometimes murder is justified but there’s never an excuse for raping someone. By rape I mean any form of sexual assault.
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u Holy cow! Social construct? WITF is that suppose to mean except that it seems to be an excuse to disregard things that you otherwise know are right and wrong.
It depends on what it's about it depends on your morals your values and your ethics if you've noticed in life we have two choices good bad right wrong yes no hello goodbye positive negative God devil love hate pain and ecstasy
About four months ago something happened to me and for probably about three or four days I I was in so much pain I could not even walk I was at the moment of passing out every second of the day and one night I was laying in bed and I said this has to be the peak this has to be the very peak of this pain and looking at it as if it was a clock 12 what is the peak of it I said there's no way in this world that I'm going to travel all the way backwards to get back at 12 release all that pain and there's that fine line is everything we do I said why not relax close your eyes meditate and just move over one second two straight up 12 and have no more pain instead of waiting and traveling All the Way backwards did you see that pain little by little I said no I just moved right over and being in pain for 3 to 4 days at this peak in that second in that instant I did this all the pages appeared my whole body could breathe I took a deep breath I could not believe it was that simple going for the peak of pain to just pure total pleasure no more pain I could not believe it I think no matter what it is hate and love there's a fine line there's a fine line between right and wrong the people can justify certain things but we all know the truth of right and wrong and yes no hello goodbye positive negative love hate we're all made different we all think different things hurt us deeper than most some of us some of us don't care we know how to handle it so I think it all depends on the individual it's just like making love you get that fine line of orgasm side or the fine line of not and if you know how to control that you can pull her over to the orgasm side and then pull her back over to the other side and take her back and forth back and forth until you build her up and she can't take it anymore there's that fine line and everything
So it falls into the idea on whether or not you believe in a higher power such as the Christian God. The idea of right and wrong comes from religion Muslims think it is wrong for women to show their face Christians believe homosexuality is wrong even atheist would say murder is wrong even though they literally have no grounds to stand on when it comes to objective truth or morality.
atheist constantly fall into the idea of moral relativism basically the idea is that morals are irrelevant if you do not believe in a higher power because if there is no such thing as a higher power then there is no such thing as morals or values and so you basically can do whatever you want why would I set aside my own pleasure for morality if I do not believe that there is some sort of higher power or God it makes no sense if you don’t know there is a God then it makes sense to believe it or at least follow the morality of some sort of religious doctrine even though you yourself don’t necessarily know whether or not that religious doctrine is correct because if you are wrong and there is an actual God and you’ve lived your life without at least you can try to slip into heaven by living your ways in the teachings of say the Christian God. If it turns out there is no of God then at least you tried to do some good in the world I fell into the agnostic category where I’m not sure if there is a God or not but I choose to live my life in credence with the idea of the Christian faith I don’t go to church right thing like that but at least I’m trying to live my life as a good person and if it turns out that there is no guard than at least I’ve tried to make the world a better place
Simple... golden rule. Basically don't do shit to others you wouldn't want to be done to you.
The problem with that rule though... you have to have the ability to see things from another's point of view. The people that can't really do that will say "kill that baby because it's my right to kill it!" without thinking for a second... ummm, maybe the baby has rights too at this point? Maybe, just maybe?" You know what I'm talking about right? the same retards that tried to force other people to get COVID shots and wear masks against their will, are now screaming "It's my body my choice!"
But let's assume their right, and it's the woman's right! Sleep around and wait 8 months, the kid can feel pain, but let's go in there and cut him up and suck him out with a vacuum. The kid could literally be taken out via C-section and live life at that point, or she could give birth and give the kid to a foster home, but it's a woman's right! Right?
That's just one of the issues you stated... another would be the alphabet people stuff. The golden rule would state whatever you do behind closed doors is your own business. But what about when they're acting profane in front of kids or turning kids into strippers. Now you're not just fucking with kids, you're also fucking with their parents. ... I mean those are the people that think 2 people face fucking each other at a kid's bus stop is a beautiful thing... when there is no thought about the people standing there waiting for their kids that would rather not let their kids watch two people face fuck each other.
Sorry for being so long-winded with my answer.
In reality, no, there is no objective right and wrong.
That said, there is a sort of right and wrong...
Imagine I was to design a robot so that it behaves "right" and does not do "wrong".
How would I do that?
Basically, I'd have to teach it out to recognize situations and then "do the right thing" as opposed to "do the wrong thing".
Still, how do we teach the machine what is a "right" action and what is a "wrong" action?
Furthermore, if we give it multiple right actions and multiple wrong actions, how do we teach it to select the best action?
As part of our teaching work, we need to ask ourselves if there are times when these options of right and wrong actions change or not.
For instance,
"It is wrong to kill".
That seems like a reasonable "right" ethic...
In simpler terms, "Killing is a wrong action".
But what if killing meant saving lives? For instance, killing one person who is about to kill more than one person - like a nutjob trying to kill elementary school kids.
And what about in warfare?
Suppose the robot is on the side of a country in war. Should it kill enemy soldiers? Enemy civilians?
All of this is complex and situationally dependent.
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However, you can cut through a lot of the clutter like this...
An action is right if it universally enhances the probability of survival of the maximum number of people.
Any action that universally lowers the probability of survival of people is wrong.
If an action enhances the probability of survival of one group while, at the same time, lowering the probability of survival for another group and vice versa, then take the action that maximizes the survival of the "most ethical group".
I put "most ethical group" because that is a loaded phrase and I am not going to discuss it further.
I don't think it is that hard Lily of the Lake. Most of us have a sense of unease about something that is wrong with the second thought of not wanting others to know. It is called the sunshine test.
How happy would you be to read about what you have done on the front page of a newspaper?
Lying is a big category. Telling a friend her new haircut is fantastic is sort of expected but more serious lying to get something you want isn't. Telling that friend her pixie cut doesn't make her look butch might be ok on the front page but a story you lying to get $50 from her with no intent to repay might not be so comfortable.
Infidelity is almost always damaging. Maybe you never did promise to be faithful and just let him assume you would be when you should have told him you're an anybodies when your drunk.( An incident between a football team and a girl and a pool did end up on the front page here). It can be spun of course but not comfortable reading regardless I think.
Now lets suppose you like girls but wouldn't like that to be known. Than I would suggest that is wrong for you at that time. Two years later you have got how you feel more sorted out and you know you are a lesbian and not ashamed of it. The it ceases to be wrong for you and becomes right.
So I don't think right and wrong is that difficult.
Your right a lot of what is right and wrong is a social construct or a method in which politicians and government uses to separate us dividing us up and causing mistrust and hate to keep or gain poet over all of us for their gain. But past all the B. S. of groups amd goverment (politicains) telling us what is right and wrong and beyond main stream religions there is the right and wrongs that are clearly right and wrong to almost all of us like murder, rape, physical or mental abuse all wrong to all of us. Then the good love, understanding, caring, helping just to name a few. All these for example aren't in question they are what they are to almost all of us some wrong some right. But the the right and wrong your probably talking about is those that you have to question because it varies to region, background ane beliefs if its right or if its held wrong. Guess that all depends on what. Is in question and what you believe but if you feel guilty and bad about your actions afterwards then you most likely in some degree wrong.
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Objectively? Maybe nothing. Subjectively? Whatever an entity defines as "bad" or "good."
I believe we're meant to form these ideas of good & bad though. Our subjective experience comes from the objective world after all. We're linked to objectivity through biology. So although perception is fully subjectively experienced, I don't believe it's fully subjectively produced.
We're biologically biased. We're forced to embody meaning even if we don't consciously wish to do so. So the suffering & pleasure we feel through our senses shows us that there are goals to life. Whatever 'life' is shows us that there are ways to define "good" & "bad." There's an innate bias, purpose, meaning, etc.
But the brain can be biased against things the universe seems indifferent about. Suffering & pleasure can be shaped by our goals due to consciousness. And everything involved in experience can be assigned a "good" or "bad" stamp even if we wouldn't have felt that way under different circumstances, without having context, etc.
So the reason why I'm confining the choice to an entity instead of saying "good & bad are fully objectively determined" is because depending on a things aim, whether it be conscious or not, it will have a preference. So perception is subject to change or be different relative to whatever is experiencing it.
From a certain perspective, you can't. Like you could make the argument that morality is subjective.
Take what happened with the alleged pandemic.
You had one side dubbing naysayers as granny killers.
The other side not wanting experimental medicine treatments with unknown long term consequences not being peddled and imposed on an unwitting population. Most egregious of all, as Neil Oliver notes in a recent video, having younglings be deceived and manipulated into taking it. Watch the video if you like, it's rare to see someone come from a place of genuine moral force.
At the end of the day, people have different views. Once you impose your view on others, that's when me and you are gonna have an issue, and arguably where the line lays.
Many lines have been overstepped in the past few years. And for those whose lines have been been trampled over, we won't forget it. Not at all. There must be accountability for humanity's descent into madness.
You know Lily people lives are determined by how they think themselves, how they grow up, (Upbringings) and what they believe in (religious beliefs, spiritual beliefs e. t. c).
So everything surrounds the world right now it because of who people are. Killings, robbery, prostitution and other bad doings is because of who people are. So what's wrong and what's right will depend on how you see things. Like people who believe on religious beliefs (christians, Islamic people, Buddha and etc) they will have a certain view on things, also people who don't have religious beliefs they also have a view on certain things too.
But all in all we may all conclude and have our answers from Science and Natural laws because that is all most of people can believe and agreed on. So if something goes out of Natural/Science rules or guidances that is bad no cap, despite how people may feel. Example killing is a bad thing because you take away someone's life and and from people they love. So this is deadly bad. That's why there are a lot laws to punish who ever break the rules.
But also culturally, how l people used to live in past and many things can contribute on how people see different things in life. Also sometimes human instincts can tell someone what he/she is doing is bad or what's good too. So it depends!
You decide what's right and wrong. You can ask yourself questions and how you feel and think about things and if you go deep enough your answers match someone else who has thought deeply about things because fundamentally humans aren't that different.
There is no such thing as good, bad, right and wrong. You show me a situation where one is true, and I'll show you another where it isn't. These aren't universal truths, but attempts to push one person's agenda onto another. Rather than using these words, use functional and dysfunctional. Do they take you toward your long-term objective, or do they not take you in that direction. Understand that we won't get respect if we don't give respect. Unfortunately, there are too many people who feel entitled to push their agenda onto other, without giving any consideration to how that might impact others. As long as people choose to be selfish in this manner, all they're doing is leading others to push back. All extremes need the opposite extreme to stay in balance. Let's find a way to meet in the middle and be considerate of all who might be impacted.
This quite an involved topic. We are Intelligently Designed with knowledge to freely chose, know Right/Wrong, and Conscious. Global standards and Western judicial system is based upon the 10 Commandments. So, it can be said that both morality and law came from the same source and establish a civil society.
—There’s scientific, religious, and philosophical reasoning involved in the vastness of your question. Reply back and I’ll catch it tomorrow and we’ll go through them. Half of your list is addressed in 10 Commandments.
This debate started in the Garden of Eden. The "Knowledge of Good and Bad" we really do not have that capacity.
And from people I have seen in situations where there are too many choices and too many voices all they want is not a choice but the right or best choice.
Since we can't read minds, we don't even know our own make up, let alone how the environment and its affect on us is working, how do we have this capacity? It short circuits our brain. And most get angry, frustrated, or give up.
Self control is one of the hardest things to do. So controlling others is not possible. I can only be an example and influence but not a leader.
In my book Jesus explained some of the most complicated things very simply. Its why I tend to take his advice over all others. I choose his standard of good. And interestingly most governments up till now have done a close comparison. But again I can only do me and what I am encouraged to do.
God gave us a moral conscience, the conscience is a our guide to innately know right from wrong morally.
The more depraved or a person ignores their conscience the more they end up falling into undiscerning and can't no longer tell what's right or wrong anymore because their conscience has been seared or past feeling.
I think the difference between right and wrong is the positive or negative impact and outcome it may have. For example the over turning of the abortion laws I believe is wrong. I won't get to political about abortion and the laws behind it but I will say I believe the decision was wrong for one mere reason (among many but I will only highlight this particular point). Abortions are going to happen either way, so with the over turning of the law it has made it dangerous and puts many women in danger. I believe if someone is pro-life then they should care about the health of these young women. Without proper abottion procedures, women's lives are now threatened simply by the over turning of this law. So I believe it's a wrong decision as it has a negative impact and outcome.
That's the thing, people are never going to be able to know what is wrong and what is right, even arguments about pain are meaningless, we can't even prove that pain is a bad thing on our own, morals do not exist if the world was only for humans, a thing may be very normal to some people and extremely disgusting to others, like brother-sister incest.
The only way to know what is right and what is wrong is through religion, because the one who created us is the one who decides whether a thing is ok or not, I hope you start searching for the one and only true god and succeed in finding him, as for me it seems clear to me that it's Allah, and the religion of Islam thus I'd advice you to learn more about Islam and see.
Liberalism can never tell you what's wrong and what's right, it's just a random world of freedom for everyone to do whatever they want, may Allah guide you to the one and only true path.
The less collective morality we have the worse society gets, the higher the rates of depression, mental illness, substance abuse, infidelity, imprisonment, broken family’s, hurt people and damaged children. People like to pretend it doesn’t have an impact but there is a clear correlation.
The basic answer of the Bible is, how do you know God of Abraham is good. known is rightness and good.
It is the value your parents give you since you wear birth, social in Hollywood have there own rules on like. The teaching of Jesus Christ with his mercy keep you live.
Hindus are the bubbliest Muslims.
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you need a moral framework to answer this question, then you compare the action to the moral framework
I use nationalism, the question of if something is good for america
then i use utilitarianism, the question of is it good for the maximum number of americans
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