Pro choice people, at what point is having a abortion immoral or unethical? Pro lifers is there any reason that you think abortion is ok?

[Whatever2929292]

I know that not all pro choicers are for abortion on demand for any or no reason at all. Though some do.
Many think safe, legal, and rare. Most people are not just black and white on things most people fall somewhere in the middle on issues.

I am pro life all the way unless in some medical situations

[Anonymous]

I've always felt that it should be done as early as possible, within the first trimester, and that a women should be using adequate birth control to try and avoid a pregancy if they don't want children. I believe if it's beyond the first trimester there should be a medical reason for it. I think the reason the medical community has an issue with this restriction is that there are not clear guidelines of what's an acceptable medical reason. To just say to save the life of the mother, what does that mean? Does that mean imminent death could occur or what if just means cancer treatments have to be halted which could lead to a poor cancer prognosis.

There should be legislation that allowes regulating bodies to come up with guidelines that would be accepted by the court system so the language isn't so ambiguous. I also worry that right now the abortion services are povided by abortion clinics, will an ob/gyn in a standard clinic be willing to provide an abortion for medical reasons? Most of them just have women go to an abortion clinic that regularly provides this service, but now if it is not provided in their state, they may have to travel out of state hundreds of miles. When people say more women will die, this is sometimes what they are referring to. It's not that we think women should be allowed to be irresponsible, we just know that by restricting for those who are irresponsible, means restricting it for those that might really need it. I commend you though for wanting to have a discussion about.

[Blackcosmo]

I'm pro life until it involves medical emergencies.
Just because I disagree with abortion in the case of a rape victim doesn't mean I don't empathize. There are better ways to deal with this situation rather than killing a baby for a crime it didn't commit. I believe the rape victim should be given lots of support, care, and love before and while giving birth so they feel better knowing there are people who will always be there for them. After they can decide on adoption if they can't keep the baby.

[Whatever2929292]

Yea I agree

[Guffrus]

So men who want to reproduce but can't find a willing partner should be able to solve this problem by becoming rapists?

I dont think you have thought this through..

[Blackcosmo]

@Guffrus Seems like you have misunderstood. I said I believe abortion in medical emergencies is acceptable.

[Whatever2929292]

@Guffrus people should wait until marriage... No nobody is calling for rape dude

[Whatever2929292]

Exactly

[Guffrus]

@blackcosmo Pregnancy resulting from rape isn't a medical emergency.

[Guffrus]

@Whatever2929292 You are completely hopeless, as a bare minimum you need to learn to read.

[Blackcosmo]

@Guffrus Yeah I never said pregnancy from rape was a medical emergency if that's what you're saying. I mean medical emergency as in a possible death.

[Guffrus]

Right, well read what i said.

[Blackcosmo]

@Guffrus You're just being confusing. I stated my opinion and that's all there is to it.

[Guffrus]

Well, the fact remains that what you advocate is pretty ghastly.

[Blackcosmo]

@Guffrus You can think what you want but I've got my own opinion.

[Guffrus]

Yeah, but you dont even understand the subject, so maybe you should fully explore it before you lock into a position about it.

[Blackcosmo]

@Guffrus Don't assume that. You are in no place to judge me and I know what I'm talking about. You just won't stop arguing with me over my perfectly fine opinion.

[Anonymous]

You have misunderstood the question.

You were never being asked if you think there should be abortions or not you were only being asked if you think the abortions which are going to happen anyway should be safe and legal or not.

[Whatever2929292]

How could I misunderstand the question... THAT I ASKED

[Opinion Owner]

Really?

You are 22 and this fucking nonsense has been going on for longer than you have been alive for and yet you think this is somehow your question?

[Whatever2929292]

ok I was asking the question and I don't even know what you're talking about

[Whatever2929292]

if anything you have misunderstood it.

The question was a lot of people are not really 100 percent pro life or pro choice. Most people fall somewhere in the middle and identify as whichever they lean more to.

I am pro life but in cases to save the life of the mother. Some don't even think that while others say other exceptions

[Whatever2929292]

A lot of pro choice people think abortions are fine but not late term. Some thing safe legal and rare. while others think up until birth for any or no reason at all

[Opinion Owner]

You think that you get to make choices for other people; you dont.

[Whatever2929292]

They make their own choices on to sleep around or not

[Opinion Owner]

They make all of their choices, you dont make any.

[Whatever2929292]

Guess what? Their responsibly then

[Opinion Owner]

You dont do any choosing, alright?

Just leave people alone its absolutely none of your business.

[Whatever2929292]

So it's fine to kill children. You only support abortion so you don't have to pay child support

[Opinion Owner]

Quite frankly, I would be happy if you killed yourself.

[Whatever2929292]

See. That is the kind of disgusting person that you are.

[Whatever2929292]

You're a disgusting sack of shit!!!

[Jamie05rhs]

I am pro-life, and I think an abortion is acceptable if the pregnancy is a threat to the life of the mother.

[Cherry234]

Although I am very pro-choice I'm against late term abortion unless something is seriously wrong with the fetus or the mother's health/life is at risk. I even understand the validity of a late term abortion if the baby is going to die immediately or shortly after being born. Getting an abortion can reduce suffering for the baby. An abortion for any reason whatsoever up to the point of viability is fine in my opinion. That's plenty of time to decide if you want an abortion.

[NaultD]

As a pro choice advocate. The point is for any individual person talking to their doctor to figure out what's what and figuring out what to do next. The only immoral outcome is a pre requested, predetermined outcome.

Shit happens and people need time to figure shit out.

[gorydetails]

On the exceedingly rare occasion that a mother's life is in danger, then I'd see it as permissable. As long as the fetus is not past 24 weeks.

[JohnK123]

It’s immoral to have one prob a month or less before…. U had all that time to decide wag earlier. But if it’s life or death etc then ya

[IsoUser]

It exponentially explains how mommy and daddy wanted a perfect child but instead she slept with the help OMG LMFAO

[IsoUser]

You're so fucked in the head you don't even deserve children ler alone Ocycodone Heroine addictect Ocycodone Supposed mother

[Anonymous]

As a pro-choice person, I believe it’s just a fetus and not a person. It doesn’t even have a name so can’t have any rights until birth.

[TwoToTooTutu2]

Pro life. If a Doctor prescribes it

[Anonymous]

I am pro-choice under any circumstances.

[Whatever2929292]

Well medical reasons are not any circumstance

[Whatever2929292]

Not even safe legal and rare which I can at least understand

[Anonymous]

I’m 100% pro choice for any reason. And until birth.

[Whatever2929292]

That is murder

[Whatever2929292]

Hell even after birth I am guessing

[Opinion Owner]

No, not after birth.

[Whatever2929292]

But why is that okay? Why would you not kill a born child but then you think killing a child seconds before birth or even during birth is?

[Whatever2929292]

There is no even reason for that. Even a lot of pro choice people don't think that

[Opinion Owner]

While in the womb, the woman is the physical governing body. Once outside the womb, that is no longer the case.

[Whatever2929292]

I guess I appreciate the answer. But. You don't even care if it is a living human or not. You only care about yourself

[Opinion Owner]

I never said anything about my feelings. I just don’t think my feelings on the matter should mean anything to the choices and opportunities of others.

[Whatever2929292]

I think that life matters. I don't think peoples feelings matter of not wanting to have a child. KILLING A CHILD IS WRONG

[Opinion Owner]

Well, I understand you feel that way.

[Whatever2929292]

What is that supposed to mean? A lot of people feel that way

[Opinion Owner]

I get that. Still doesn’t mean anything.

[Whatever2929292]

You just don't know right from wrong do you?

[Opinion Owner]

My sense of right and wrong is just different from yours. This is the problem. You think your feelings are important and should dictate the lives of others. It will never work that way.

[JohnK123]

Opinion owner, so u think a woman could get one the day before even if she doesn’t have a medical condition etc?

[Whatever2929292]

@JohnK123 I know I at least appreciate the answer... but my thoughts.