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Men are allowed to cry when:
1. A loved one (family member, friend, or pet) dies.
2. A man is in extreme physical pain, like getting shot by shotgun, for example.
3. Or when watching Old Yeller or Up.
That's it. (I'm half-joking here.)
It's definitely NOT an Alpha trait. But it doesn't make a man weak, either. Men are allowed to cry. It just needs to be on RARE occasions. Otherwise, it's potentially cowardly and a sign of fragility.
Most Women don't like when a man cries they see it as weak
As someone mentioned it already they even break up with them
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If it's with anyone other than your mom, dad, or wife in private or a funeral, that's weak, and will most likely be used against you later.
Crying is human. Nothing more, nothing less.
Technically no but in our society yea but that depends on a few things like:
-Why he's crying (if a dude has a good reason then he's obviously not a bitch. Like let's say he's 3 year old kid dies, no one's going to think he's pussy for that. Now if a guy cries because he got an F on a test that's um...)
-How he does it (like is he sobbing hysterically while making loud noises and whailing on the floor (excusable though if something really really really bad happened like your brother dying and no one can see you or you learned that at the instant) or is he really trying to keep his composure and let's out a few tears and wipes them right away if he's in public/ cries normally, in private while trying to keep low volume?)
- If it's in public or private, and if your doing it in front of someone, who they are (like if it's private and you got a reason i mean it's all good. if it's in front of some very close friends, longer term girlfriend or family that's also cool. if it's front of strangers, not very close friends, very recent girlfriend, acquaintances, unless you got a good reason and it makes sense that you can't really hold it all back then it's a bit...
It's sad the amount of people who think crying makes a man weak. Men are human. Humans have emotions. Some of those emotions make people want to cry. Holding back tears to conform to the idea it displays weakness can have negative long term affects on mental health. I'm not saying we should cry over every little thing. But there are situations in life that are worth shedding tears over. Real men cry when necessary. I dont give a damn what anyone thinks. I went through a divorce and was devastated about my family no longer being whole and I was an emotional wreck for several months. I cried many times, sometimes In front of people. Does that make me less of a man? Hell no. If you can't cry over your family or the loss of a 10 year love than what kind of man are you? I can't imagine how much harder it would have been on my mental health had I decided to suppress those emotions simply because some idiots don't think its socially acceptable or somehow makes you less of a man. I've cried at funerals. I've teared up over certain movies. I've teared up over certain situations involving my kids. I personally think that this stigma and belief that men shouldn't cry leads a lot of guys into suppressing emotions and that's unhealthy. By all means men, let go of that stigma. Allow yourself to have emotions sometimes. Real men don't give a shit what people think. And Real men don't judge another man for showing emotion. They offer them condolences and emotional support. Because we're all humans and we all need that sometimes.
Women say they want a man to express emotions but in practice most women are completely turned off when a man does.
The love they feel might be more nurturing and motherly if they feel positively about it at all, but that's not what men want them to feel, and it's virtually impossible for a woman to be turned on or sexually excited by a man she feels needs her care and attention while she's watching him cry.
This is one reason why people say that women don't know what they want.
It's not THAT a man might cry. It's what drives him to do it, and how easily.
A man whose girlfriend just died of Huntington's disease, and he needs to let the emotions out, has a free pass. He can still be considered strong. Especially if he waits until he's alone to let it out.
A man who still can't get over November 2016, because he wanted that war criminal bitch who blew Libya back to the Stone Age for all the wrong reasons to win instead, and who fills every place he goes with obscenities and blasphemy, all because he's still that epic a sore loser... is weak. And also extremely mentally ill. These kind are to be found on Facebook. They give themselves away quickly; because they ignore the plain testimony of their own eyes, just to regurgitate whatever AOC says as if it were gospel truth.
no it does not make him weak men have a right to shed tears to just as much as women to me men that shed tears have more of a emotional side and aren't scared to show there true feelings and not be scared of being branded a pussy by a self hearted guy he knows or a friends everyonre crys and men are not pussys if they cry they have a heart and know they can be themselves that way i hate men that hide there emotions the sweeter the more i see how much he is able to not be scared of love and affection and be his true self and heart touched especially when it comes to loving the women he loves
It's biology. Women don't care about your problems. If you need to be vulnerable go to your boys and have some drinks and let it out. Don't bring that shit to your woman. It will turn them off and dry them up like the Sahara.
Thanks me later.
This. Exactly this. It is putting the proverbial gun in your mouth when it comes to your girlfriend if you do that.
Neither. I mean, I'd feel weak if I cried. I hate the stereotype that only men have any emotional dignity.
Anyway, I'd just treat him how I'd want to be treated. Respect that his masculinity was just shattered and not do anything patronizing like giving him sympathy in public. Or even in private, since I'd take that as a, 'girls-always-want-sympathy' type thing if it were me. So untrue. And I'd hate it, so, no go.
I'd basically pretend I didn't see him. Don't care if I come off as cold. That would be the kindest thing you could do to me were I in that situation.
Weak, crying is a things but crying while being hide if you end up bursting in tears in front of everyone it's far from being manly...(no matter what some people would like to say).
If I had a boyfriend and he cried in front of me I would think of him as weak and think less of him. Only time I find it ok it's if they win the world cup.
Not surprising that the french fascist think crying is a weakness :)
@sadrik If he cried in front of me I would not have any respect left for him anymore truly and it would surely lead on a break up in the long run. Guy can cry but not in front of people, I m a girl and I hide when I cry, I don't do it in public. People shouldn't cry in public and especially men.
Why are men becoming so girly nowadays? Seriously.
@Still-alive Is that your cat on the pics? He's adorable *-*
I have two myself both are tabby cat one beige and one grey (he's a baby I adopted not even 1 months ago).
Well if both of you think that way, i can't argue, maybe you didn't experience true love yet, maybe the idea of girls want bad man is true, and after they complain about the way she gets treated and post on heartbreak, you know Alice we can have different ideas but not when it comes to individual behavior and feelings, don't judge over things you didn't experience yet
@sadrik My father and grandfather never cried, never even in the most hurtful situation (like losing a child) they never cried and they're good men. Traditional men, real one unlike the wimp we have today who think crying is ok. It just built weak people.
Yes we can have deferent idea on everything absolutely everything.
And I've experienced it every guy i saw crying they disgusted me, how is he supposed to support me? To protect me if he's so weak? In harsh and hard time he must be there to support me if he's crying he's not a man anymore.
I never cried, it doesn't mean that i don't feel like crying, i didn't find the one i can show my weakness to, your father and grandfather if they didn't cry in front of you it didn't mean they never cried, but they found the women who understands they're feelings and keep they're secrets , that's the main point, you mentioned even when they lost a child, you didn't experience that feeling i saw men hitting they're head on the wall and blood was all on the way for the loss, and i saw others who didn't care, i saw children smiling on they're parents funeral because they wanted they're money, and i saw children crying for them, i saw others willing to do anything to have 1 day with them, human behavior is different, but you can't make a rule or make it general, maybe you see it wrong , but it doesn't have to be wrong, because some others see it right, i just wanna explain to you why i think it's right, not trying to convince you
@sadrik this fascist is a lost cause. i would give it up if i were you. talking to a brick wall would produce better results
@sadrik You're crazy dude, they never cried cause they're raised in traditional ways, my grandfather was literally before the WW2 and his father fought in the first WW1. When you're raised during the way and made the war in special force you're definitely not gonna cry in front of women who you want to protect, they want us to feel safe and protected by them so they don't cry in front of us.
And they don't cry in front of others people either we're always together.
He wanted to cry I saw it but he didn't do it because like I said he wanted to be strong so we could rely on him, if he break then everyone would break too.
Then you don't make a good point at all and please write in a better ways it's a drag to read you (and it's I not i).
@Still-alive It's you the brick wall I send you a message about your pics and you didn't even respond...
nah you know what you are. detracting from it only confirms it lol
@Still-alive don't get it whatever why aren't you responding to my question? I send you a nice message and you aren't even responding? Seriously you democrat are just a bunch of hypocrite you just love insulting people and refuse to respond to nice message. This is tiring.
lol whatever you say miss 'i wanna macron to be executed' :P
@Still-alive Ya so? Most French think the same as me, too tired of him.
And you're also one weird dude, posting pic of cat and not wanting to talk about them, people who love cat love talking about their cat.
Also if you want more people to be democrat you should be nice to them not hypocrite, hypocrisy doesn't work it just prove their point so you're pretty much a clown but that was already a well know fact.
im nice to people that don't want their leaders murder thank you.
@Still-alive Then you're not a nice person. And responding to a question is just being rude so you're not even being polite. Hypocrisy of the democrat.
Even I'm nice to foreigner and Gay, I help them when they ask (cause they don't speak French so I helped them translate and write the address on their paper), and Im always polite to them.
You're just a rude person don'y try to find excuse you make yourself seem like a good person like ""oh my god no nobody deserve to die blablabla..." but in reality you're an hypocrite and rude. Can't even use the basic politness my god.
haha yeahhh at least i don't disrespect men who have actual human emotions and cry sometimes... like ANY other human being does... how disrespectful you are
@sadrik Men need to be strong not women. Women are meant to be protected. That's the traditional ways.
And not wanting to private message is just self defense or something similar I don't rememember the correct word but it have noting to do with strength everyone dislike being bothered or insulted.
@Still-alive You're being a baby. Democrat are baby and hypocrite. More to come to the list.
And people shouldn't cry in front of others that's basic respect. It make people uncomfortable especially if they cry for nothing.
yeah you are a terrible human being. im done with you now. see ya miss fascist.
@Still-alive Of course you have no argument so you say this, clown.
And the whole I want Macron dead was actually just a joke but like you democrat are dramatic and take everything first degree like snowflakes I just went along with it. You didn't even get it when I talked about the French revolution like come on? Are you so dense and now you're just acting like a sect gourou or dictator. Seriously what's wrong with democrat? Can't even be polite to people and be nice human being.
lol 'just a joke' nice cover. you know what you are you fascist.
@Still-alive Actually I'm not I just have to look at the definition, I'm worse.
And the just a joke it's an American stuff in France it's a true things but I guess you American don't have humour noir look it up, you ll sleep smarter tonight after learning it.
@Still-alive i'm done here, god helps you, i just read that she's french or i won't bother myself explaining, and one things, alice you said you consider yourself as a nice person, you're a judgmental one, which make you the worst kind of human beings, now i give up, she's all yours
@sadrik I did? I don't think I did. I just act polite to people to make the situation peaceful and not making them uncomfortable but on internet I can say my true opinion as well as with friends. And god love me very much I'm extremely lucky, been more than 2 months I'm extremely lucky.
Also I think dedicated my life to heal my family member and not go out partying or dating make me a good person actually. Without me moving in to help them they would have been send to some shitty house for old people all alone while I move to live with them and abandoned all my old life so yea I'm actually a good person. Unlike you hypocrite.
" heal my family member and not go out partying or dating make me a good person actually."
Yet if that family member was male and cried a any point... what would happen? hmmmmm
@Still-alive Family isn't the same things and he actually prove time and time again he's strong and extremely loving and devoted so it would change nothing it it was him who was crying.
lol yeah right. i don't believe it. and you don't either. you'd lost all respect for that family member wouldn't you?
@Still-alive No not for him. There's very fews people who I really love and he's one of those. And like I said he prove time and time again so if he cried (and he actually would have good reasons to) I would not think badly of him at all. I would just hug him. But family is special and not the same as random people.
so random people even friends or a boyfriend crying in front of you = they are weak, deserving of ridicule and shunned but if they are family and cry = they are ok?
@Still-alive I'm not gonna ridicule them, I'm gonna keep it to me and not say anything to them just in the long run I doubt I could this working with someone who's this ways.
And it's a bit this but think about it my father / grandfather raised me, loved me, protected me, etc;;.. during more than 20 years, they were always there for me never betraying me, etc.. they'r special and I'm loving them no matter what.
Friends and boyfriend they always cheat, betray, lie, etc... and at my age it's rare to have friends who supported and love you more than 20 years and don't even talk about boyfriend, in my country boyfriend / girlfriend is nothing it's just serious once you get married. Then it become another things, if someone you would never cried after 25 years but one day you see it happening is not the same things as dating a dude and him crying the first 3 months of relationship. Not the same things at all.
ok another scenario. say you have a boyfriend and his mother dies and you see him bursting into uncontrollable tears right in front of you... what do you think? what do you say to him?
@Still-alive I would just sit next to him and wait if we didn't date for a long time cause I'm extremely uncomfortable in those situations wouldn't know what's appropriate or not to do. If we dated for a long time I would surely just hug him and wait, I'm not a talkative person at all I only talk a lot on internet but in real life I don't when people cry I just sit next to them or hug them if I know they like those things. But yes I'm the worse when it come to this kind of stuff.
When people cry I stay next to them until they're good again and when they're complaining about something I just smile to them and it usually ok (for the people I'm near to, for other I'm sure they would think I'm awkward).
so you wouldn't think he's less of a man for crying in front of you like that?
@Still-alive Not for the death of a loved one.
Damn, you just accused me of many bad things, well in the private message i requested is wanted to tell you that i am too in the army and saw many friends dying in front of me and exploding and i saw they're families crying crazy, i felt like crying so much because they're brothers not just people i work with, and i wanna ask you and all the french people to think before accusing someone, and what you're doing to your family isn't a favor it's your duty just like what i do to mine and everyone else, you're not doing something special, i hope now you understand that men's tear are human feelings not the way you see it
@sadrik It's not a duty simply because there's to laws to force and nobody in my country do this kind of stuff they just put old people into elderly house...
We could have moved closer to them or just never moved (cause we lived close to them) but no they decided to them letting them isolated and I'm the only one in our whole family to help.
Also what you're doing isn't a job neither it's your duty to serve your country, my father all my grandfather, my great grandmother, etc... all of them have served in the army or serve the country in war and they also saw people exploding and everything it's not an amazing things.
And if you felt like crying then maybe you aren't strong enough to go on war and would go back with lots of ptds.
Feeling like crying all the time while people getting killed in the war mean you're too soft.
My family fought during the WW1, the second, the Algerian war, Mauitania and others in African countries where it was hotter than 50 degree.
Human or not I do not wish for my husband to be a crybaby. That's not the type of men I want to spend my life with.
From a Spiritual Standpoint
We are both yin and Yang
We can choose what to have more or less if we want to be more manly then we can be less empathetic
If we want to be more feminine
Then we can identify with the female aspect of the yin Yang ☯️
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I wouldn't call it alpha. But a men not showing emotions because it seems week is as far as I know more a thing men think (from all of these questions and what the results say here too). I think its just human to show emotions and not weak. I would kinda call it good because it takes away that "I allways need to be strong because..." which often seems a thought of a lot of guys seem to have. Also if you dont show emotions how can you expect to receive support by others? We can't read thoughts.
The modern term for men who show weakness like that is incel. Men, if you must , do it privately.
I remember running down a hill when I was four or five, I fell and hit my head hard, it started to bleed.
I got up, didn't make a sound and walked home. One of the older kids, a teenager came up to me and said he was impressed I didn't cry.
I just thought of the shame and ridicule I'd get if my mom or sister saw my cry.
Nope, I won't cry at a funeral.
Lesson learned.
No such thing as “alpha male” in human civilization. If a man is man enough to cry, he’s extremely privileged, especially if he can cry publicly. Men are still universally viewed as weak and damaged when we cry. It instantly and permanently damages your social status among other men AND women. That’s an indisputable fact. So he has to have accomplished a great deal that can’t be taken away or torn down to pull off a public cry. I honestly don’t know if that’s possible in western civilization.
Most women will say yes crying makes a man weak. I think is the opposite because it does take a lot of courage to be vulnerable and show ourselves as we are especially when it’s a norm to no be vulnerable. If a man cries, expresses his emotions, it only shows 2 things to me: 1) he knows himself very well and is not afraid of showing who he is even if is he, 2) he has the maturity to deal with criticism and is not afraid of breaking society norms.
And that’s important to you, breaking society’s norms?
Yes because I do think some norms are completely stupid and disables people to be their best self.
I think men have to be strong. There is so much evil and cruelty in this world, people are so broken…acting out their traumas and perpetuating these terrible cycles forever. I could cry all day. Better to suck it up and spend my time taking right action instead
Women tend not to like a man when he cries or shows emotions. I recall hearing about a woman who broke up with a guy because he cried at the funeral.
Thats so annoying. Its completely normal to show emotion
What are you supposed to do in a funeral? Laugh?
I would have understood if the man had cried on a first date or something, but funeral? Everyone cries on funeral! Even strangers sometimes!
Unfortunately yes, its not fair to men, it causes all kinds of mental anguish and depression but I can't be with a weak man, and one that cries is worse. Thats why i treat my man like a king he gets me when ever he needs me in all ways emotionally sexually and physically. I bow to him for what he does for me.
I dunno. I tried not to but i cried hard after my grandmas funeral yesterday Nobody thought less of me. My wife is still here so its not like ahe bailed on me because im some fat pussy. The idea that a man crying is "weak" is subjective. As long as he is not a whiny sensitive tool, a man crying is in fact quite normal.
I usually have no idea what to do when a guy cries, I don't have much experience with it but I don't see as a weak thing, nor Alpha thing. It's a natural thing/response to certain events.
I would rather have a man who isn't afraid to show his emotions than to be stoic all the time.
I dont believe in the "beta" or "alpha" grindset but I think being unable to show emotion because you feel that you have to be strong and that means not crying, is mainly an insecure view and shows to me that they aren't confident and are probably faking and putting a mask over more than just their feelings.
When a guy cries its for sure a alpha quality. I love a guy that isn't afraid to show his emotions
I have been known to cry upon occasion. i would be glad to meet with anyone who would dispute my manhood.
My boyfriend is a cry baby needy one
It's a turn off for me
The only time a man should cry is when he loses someone close to him or he is under some extreme physical pain.
Or when he meets the perfect woman who makes him the perfect sandwich.
Tears of joy I tell you.
Other , there's nothing wrong with a men crying in his privacy , or in front of his male best friends , but in front of woman (friends girlfriend wife ) , they will judge you and spread the roomers of your weakness , no matter how much they say there's nothing wrong with a men crying
I remember seeing some pre bout antics between that Iranian hulk guy and some other western meat head, anyway the westerner was really aggressive and rattled the hulk, and he got really upset, personally I felt bad for him, and thought the other guy was a turd. Tough guys can show emotions it's cool.
People forget men are humans too. They’re not devoid of emotions. It doesn’t mean they’re weak. They stood strong for too long, at some point, somethings gotta give.
To me, If a guy cries it's because he trusts you, It's a normal thing for everyone to cry don't see why it makes a man weak, That's just Gender inequality?
u None of the above. It's a human trait.
Showing the emotion of crying and sadness is seen as weakness for both women and men. But that couldn’t stop anymore from expressing sadness becomes it’s also a sign of confidence
Crying doesn't show weakness or masculinity. It shows you're a human being. doesn't matter if your a man or woman. Everybody gets upset and cries sometimes it's natural and nothing to be ashamed or embarrassed about
That's why God designed all of us with tears and tear ducts - so when we are overwhelmed we have a built in natural mechanism that releases some of what we are enduring. It's called crying and it's ok for everyone to do it. It's natural.
Crying unbalances the humours, which can lead to a buildup of luminiferous aether, causing spontaneous generation of miasma in certain phrenological types.
Why choose only ONE long-debunked scientific theory?
m only an absolute idiot would think crying is a weakness...
and it would be equally stupid to think that there is just one reason as to why people cry, lol
I... think it's both? I like the fact he shows emotions around me. Him doing that is strength to me, because he expresses it to me, trusts me. But if you're like Amber Turd crying just to get what you want, you are getting dumped!
Crying is a normal emotional response for all sentient/conscious beings to experience. Animals, mammals, etc.. everyone cries. It's not a sign of weakness or being masculine. It's just a normal response to emotional stimuli.
No weaker than laughing makes him. Emotions all come in the same basket. You can't pick which ones make you weak or strong. Everything in moderation ✌
“There’s no crying in baseball “ 😊 if it’s in public you look weak unfortunately, for some reason I don’t cry from pain, only from emotion from a lost one or something really sad
I cry when it fucking means something so I view it as a simple expression of strong feelings even if they are very positive.
If I cry frivolously then yes, that is weak.
Men have no reason to cry. Cis men are among the most privileged in our society. What do they have to cry about? Someone said something mean to them over the internet?
You never know what could be going on in someones personal life. Just bc in general cis men are more privileged doesn't mean they won't struggle at some point.
I cry about the horrors of man spreading daily. I just don’t know how women endure.
It depends in some circles it’s seen as ok and in others it’s a sign of weakness. It just depends.
I personally don’t really cry but I don’t really care if another guys does. Doesn’t make him any less of a man in my eyes.
To me, showing any emotional wealknesses goes against the nature of confidence, the very holy word of women with high standards.
Women see him as a sissy wimp even though it's just a human emotion which doesn't make him any less of a man but what can you do? That's how women's minds work.
Always remember that "it's weak" and not a masculine trait. You should never ask girls or gays' such things, all they can give you is stupid potato advice.
It's neither, soticism is generaly the thing regarded as the masculine trait and it is not the same thing as "not being allowed to cry" but those who believe in toxic masculinity refuses to accept that. Apparently women know more about being a man than men do.
I voted other, crying is a human emotion, I don't equate it as gender specific. I would not think less of someone who cried.
Controlled crying is something everyone should have. The ability to cry when needed but also not cry when needed
Cry when its appropriate to.
Not when you're having a temper tantrum, which you shouldn't be having as an adult anyway.
I don't view it as weak for others to cry I just view it as weak for myself to cry, I really hate crying.
Neither, even the top dogs can have an emotional breakdown.
Guys that show their feelings and can express how they really feel are stronger than guys that keep that stuff in.
That is 1000% it depends why he's crying... if it's because his coffee spilt or something... he's a bitch... if it's because his kid died... I get it
It makes a man weak. It's not manly or alpha, but it's expected. Humans aren't perfect. And I'm not entirely certain I'd consider crying to be a flaw in the first place. But the fact of the matter is that men cry, even strong men.
Crying just means having reached when you physiologically needs to vent, it doesn't mean you're weak
The fact that people ask this question in the first place is an element of ‘toxic masculinity’ that people mean. It should never be a weakness for a man to cry
Yes it does. If you see a dude crying, immediately question his masculinity and call him a pansy. Dudes who cry should be made fun of full stop.
Simples...
This is the problem. We men can't seem to be able to support each other.
If a woman cry, she seeks attention of some sorts
if a man cry, he think he lost everything
Crying to relieve himself is not but a just a natural way of releasing chemicals that cause stress. Like this for example. But crying to complain and to show his vulnerability for attention and sympathy is just not good.
Neither, it's just a normal thing that people shouldn't repress
It depends how you cry...
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