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It's not like you're going to get either one with Biden, the f*cker literally wasn't even elected by the people. 115% of the people voted for him in counties and it was all swept under the rug. I can't respect anyone's "intelligence" if they think Biden was fairly elected and that America hated Trump enough to vote in Mr. "You ain't black" pants-sh*tter.
Also, you're from the United Kingdom. What even is this question, then?
If I had to answer the question, I'd want actual democracy, but again, what does that have to do with Democrats? They literally don't believe in Democracy. So for the sake of this poll, I'm just voting for gas, because "democracy" is in sarcastic quotes.
I say cheap gas, because we already have a cheap democracy that apparently doesn't work. Or maybe I got that wrong, maybe our democracy is as over priced as our gas. If I had to give a MPG rating on the US Government I would day maybe 6 to 8 miles per gallon.
Did you hear that California will be all electric vehicles by 2035? How they going to fix the roads without the gas tax... guess we might end up with no gas, and very expensive democracy that still sucks.
Are they basically admitting that the gas tax didn’t need to exist?
@Sixgunsound That's exactly what I thought... lol But honest its something they did to say they did it, but with out the infrastructure that would be needed they will roll it back later. Its not like you see any movement to install charging stations everywhere or any where... they are just pandering to the their base so they can point a finger and say they did something without doing anything.
New York is famous for that as well…remember Cuomo’s anti corruption probe that he shut down when it got too close to him?
@Sixgunsound Exactly, the Russian Collusion thing that went no where when they got too close to Biden's son.
I keep trying to follow the science but it always leads me back to the money!
@Sixgunsound LOL!!! SOOOOOOO TRUE!
We don't want democracy, we want TRUMP back full time, all the time, and unfettered by the government to make America great again by any method he wants. Hell, I'd even take a gas increase if the money went towards stamping out liberalism once and for all.
Sooooo... because... only biden can give us democracy? I don't get it...
We got a flood of illegals and massive inflation and lots more we didn't have with Trump... buy we had democracy (and a president who knew where he was)
the other half of that is that Biden also arrested more Illegal than Trump. economists had already predicted inflation during Trump's administration. tell me... what's Trump's plan to deal with inflation? I already know the answer because I've already heard him lay it out.
@Sabretooth I only know until now gas wasn't 7/gal
Arrest who? He's letting them spill in like coffee out the pot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZhUa5hShk4 and here's what a Trump supporter said about the Illegals: theintercept.com/.../
@Sabretooth I don't care, and I don't need to watch a stupid YouTube video. You said "Biden arrests more illegals than trump" and I said it's because biden has 1,300+ spilling in every day whereas trump kept them out. It's like saying NYC cops give more tickets than the sheriff in a town in Mississippi
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Is that even a serious question? I'll go with cheap gas. I live in a constitutional federal republic, not a democracy. Democracies are fucking horrible. Mob rule looks like ANTIFA burning down a city. All democracies self cannibalize.
@TroyDT What they don't seem to get is that if you strip away the rule of law that protects everyone equally, then you just end up with a bunch of conflict. Say you have a Democracy and BLM goes out and riots in a city. They are 58% of that city's population so they feel confident, that is until the rest of the nation turns against them. What happens when White people get tired of Black people having high crime statistics if there is no rule of law to treat everyone equally with blind justice? A genocide, that's what happens...
and people think Republicans will do anything about this? lmfao! great joke! but in all seriousness--no, they love this! they have the easiest jobs imaginable! rage and campaign on issue... and that's it. they have no plans... nor do they need any. to put it simply, they have no plans to lower gas prices. let me show you guys just how uninformed you really are... the Keystone pipeline... remember that? 3 things. 1) that would've only created 35 permanent jobs. 2) most gas would've been exported because it would've been incompatible with anything but a desal truck. 3) the pipeline would've have been ready until 2030. 5.2 billion for that... sounds like wasteful spending, to me. you wanna call yourselves patriots? try educating on the happenings of this country, first.
''issues''.
So why did gas prices jump the minute Biden came into office.
I know. It’s the fault of Republicans.
But holy shit it comes down, why that’s all Joe’s doing!
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@Agagagagaga started rising under Trump. also rose under Bush. in truth--presidents matter little. this is what gas companies do because they can. gas prices have gone down but Biden has gotten little to no credit by the left.
Well we are down to $5.60 or so a gallon here now, from $6.25 but that is still a far cry from Trumps less than $2 a gallon.
If Democracy is Biden on his first day in office doing a bunch of executive orders that caused energy to spike, no thanks... that is one man making oil more expensive, simply to repay his election promises.
That is not Democracy... so I'll vote for cheap gas.
@aerissa_jade look https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=CA and if you look at it says highest they're some places that are 6.40 lol I seen then most are like 5.30 but they're 6.40 I drove by and saw a aarco at 6 and said he'll nah these people trippin in So Cal lol
Democracy is a farce. It's permitting hordes of stupid people to have a say in how the country is run, which they shouldn't. I'd rather have cheap gas, and efficient systems than to heave a meaningless vote. The state I live in has 9 million people; so, my vote counts for little to nothing, and I don't really care for the popularity tests.
OMG, all the idiots saying "the US is a republic not a democracy"!
A Republic is where: "supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives". Elected!
What they mean is that Republicans should be allowed to rule even if the majority of citizens don't want them to.
Nationalist Christians. Or Nat C's, for short.
I want cheap and gas and Republic. NOT a Democratic Socialist mob rule Democracy one step away from Oligarchical or Tyrant Dictator rule.
I'm not a big fan of democracy. I think that societies are more stable if they are governed by a strong leader and not by democracy. Also, is America a democracy now? Are there still people who believe that America is run in the interest of the people and according to their wishes? In general, I don't need much democracy. Well, there are still things that are important to me. I'm not ok with the government telling me how many degrees to set my air conditioner to, for example. I'm not okay with the government teaching my kids that they can choose their own gender, or that there are more than two genders. I'm not ok with the government discriminating against me because I didn't get an experimental, untested and already proven ineffective vaccine.
It's a pointless pole, gas prices got a lot to do with oil companies, and the petroleum producing countries, nothing to do with a countries political system. Just look at Russia, you say something bad about the president, and you could be killed or be imprisoned.
It's funny as someone who never and will never have the need to drive looking at this. Really shows you how far people have fallen into this illusion that cars are needed. Wonder how they think villages work.
Would you rather have a false dichotomy or a conversation?
Well, thje USA has never been a democracy, it's a democratic republic, so the only legit choice of the two is $2.50 gas.
Just wondering... are you a liberal Democrat who thinks the USA is a democracy?
Democracy doesn't work anymore, people are too stupid. Leave the laws and policies as they are and abolish congress permanently. And bring back the $1.25/gal I used to pay when we had a competent leader in office
Abolish the Supreme Court first, then we can talk about abolishing Congress and the state legislatures.
No, it isn’t. The US Supreme Court is the main line into turning America into a fascist state. Abolish it.
Cheap gas and a constitutionally-limited republic. I don't want a democracy. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner.
The USA never was and never will be a democracy, it is a federal Constitutional Republic. If anything, America resembles an oligarchy with some democratic and socialist elements to the politics and economy.
anything about "democracy" coming from democrats makes me piss myself from laughing. They literally are cheering on socialism, while gaslighting the American people that they give a shit about democracy. How literally stupid does a person need to be to watch them cheering comments from Democrat politicians that praise SOCIALISM and not democracy?
I vote A but would like to point out that under Trump we had both. With biden we have neither.
Cheap gas... Democracy is overrated.. It's fine in local and small groups, but most people don't really bother to educate themselves and are more emotional about important matters..
The two are not mutually exclusive. I’ll have both, thank you.
Yikes the gender divide on this survey. Thank god women won the right to vote or America would just be about cars and guns.
On behalf of all men your welcome for the right yo vote
@USLegionary legend😆
Lmao, as if men helped. Women's Sufferage was the reason we won the vote.
Men only gave in because they knew if they didn't they'd end up maidenless incels, lol.
Not that I expect an American man to understand his country's own history. Not your fault - your country's education system is basically military propaganda and most American men like you are too stupid to cast off that yoke. 😆
Not really. Who would look after all these husbandless suffragettes?
@USLegionary if men legitimately got paid more that means the larger amount of tax theft from men goes towards subsidizing women’s increasingly common marriage to government dependency.
@Sixgunsound well said...
Ideally both but for now I'll take the cheaper gas
Democracy is dogshit and as much as I'd like to see it burn, it still won't have the same flare as gas does.
Doesn’t Saudi Arabia have free gas? Its not a democracy
Hitler is an example of life without democracy as well as Kim Jung
We don't have a democracy. Democracy is evil, because it decends to mob rule 🙄.
We have a constitution republic. Hence the title, Republican. "Supporters of the Republic"
To be fair, if that is your choice - then you will get neither.
Who says they’re mutually exclusive? We have neither now anyway.
When lefitsts don't understand that the US is not a democracy, anything they say is immediately dismissed.
When fascists try to make believe that a Republic isn't based on elections, they can be instantly dismissed. It literally means a democracy with no rulers.
"Noun
republic (plural republics)
A state where sovereignty rests with the people or their representatives, rather than with a monarch or emperor; a country with no monarchy. "
@goaded A representative republic (please get it straight) is where the legislation rests with elected representatives (hence the name) who are bound to follow the constitution. A democracy is the tyranny of the majority.
Here’s a good example for you, we vote in a presidential election but the electoral college is the actual body that casts the votes that decide a president. The electoral college being another thing you leftists hate.
You're just a complete idiot who can't read. I wasn't objecting to the word Republic (I defined it for you earlier), but the phrase "representative republic". It seems totally redundant.
"Representative" is a reasonable adjective for a democracy, because there is also the idea of a direct democracy, which isn't used to run any country in the world, as far as I can see, except very rarely. Representative democracies, and the US is an example of one, are democracies where representatives are elected as opposed to a direct democracy where everyone votes on policies (like referendums).
People like you who try to make out that there's a distinction between a Republic and a Democracy are simply trying to justify minority rule, if not outright dictatorship.
So you've lost the argument and want to change the subject? We're agreed that the US is both a Democracy and a Republic. That wasn't so hard, was it?
Now, what on earth are you talking about? The Civil Rights Act was passed with large majorities in both House and Senate, representing the majority of Americans.
FFS, you said "the US is not a democracy". I explained to you that it is both a democracy and a republic. There is absolutely no contradiction in those terms. Republics, by definition have the power in the hands of the people through democracy. But, please, keep showing your wilful ignorance.
You do understand that something can be two things at once, right? The US is both a republic (it has no monarchy, the power lies with the people) and a democracy (people vote for their representatives). Take away the elections (or render them impotent by allowing legislatures to choose to ignore them), and you don't have a republic any more. That's what the right wing are angling for at the moment.
It's like you being a man and also a human being. They're not mutually exclusive. All men are human beings, just like all republics are democracies. (Not the ones that just call themselves republics, like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, which is neither.)
Why am I not surprised that you laugh at laws and enjoy abuse of power? You're talking about what a lot of the left *want* done, mostly in reaction to Republican abuse of power. I'm talking about what Republicans are actually *doing*.
There are laws being proposed to allow Republican legislatures to determine who won an election, independent of the result of the ballot. There are Republican legislatures who are suing for the right to set election rules that are not subject to state judicial review and even rules that are against their states' constitutions. That's going before the Republican-packed court that is the least respected and least legitimate SCOTUS in American history.
Let's not forget that four of the "justices" that voted to take away a right women had enjoyed for two generations lied to get onto the court and specifically said they would respect precedent. Nor that Republican states across the country are passing laws that mean women are being forced to bring to term babies with no chance of survival, and raped women and children are having to leave their state to get an abortion. Nor that Republicans want to make abortions illegal across the country, "states' rights" be damned.
The least respected and least legitimate SCOTUS in American history is 100% due to Republican abuse of power.
Pure evil is installing idealogues on dubious grounds by a political party representing less than half the country in order to pull the country apart at the seams. That's why SCOTUS has never been less respected. Every one of the "justices" that voted to overturn Roe had more votes against their confirmation than the whole SCOTUS who decided Roe in the first place is why it is the least legitimate SCOTUS in American history.
You've got nothing but abuse of power going for you any more. There are no popular right-wing policies.
Wrong. What you said in the beginning was the lie that "the US is not a democracy", and you can't stand being corrected with actual facts. It's just the cry of people who want to be able to choose their leaders (or are so sad they want them chosen for them) without any of that awkward "consent of the governed" nonsense.
And you keep proving you're too think to understand that something can be more than one thing. America is a republic. America is a democracy. These two statements are true. "America is not a democracy" is an untrue statement made by wannabe fascists.
Republics are democracies, because they require that the people choose their representatives by democratic means.
Don't you get tired of being wrong about everything? You've just proven you think there's nothing wrong with trying to steal the presidency from the democratically elected winner, and now you pretend trying to restore the integrity of a broken SCOTUS is "dismantling" it, which is what happened when McConnell said "fuck democracy, I'll do what I want to get partisan hacks on the court", (And now the federalist society has $1.6 billion to continue the cause of fascism in the US.)
Abuse of power, lies, and and insults are the only things going for today's Republican party. You have no popular policies, you deny reality (your lie: "the US is not a democracy"), you don't do anything to help anyone, and you just want to block anyone from doing anything that would. It would be pathetic, if it weren't so dangerous.
Like I said: Abuse of power, lies, and and insults are the only things going for today's Republican party.
Lies: "irreparable damage that lockdowns caused for no benefit" Florida is still killing its citizens by negligence, 66,000 in the last two years. Compared to New York's total of 38,000 in the same period. If Mississippi were a country, it would be number 7 in deaths per million, with over one in every 250 citizens dead. Did they, by any chance, decide not to do anything to protect their citizens?
Lies: "myocarditis from covid shots that you mandated" The vaccines Trump had developed? You mean the problem you're far more likely to suffer from if you catch the virus while unvaccinated? They were never mandated except for federal employees. And they saved hundreds of thousands of lives, if not millions, in the US alone.
I expect some people get killed by their seatbelts or airbags, that doesn't make them a bad idea. That's because they save vastly more lives than they take.
@goaded yay, once again you're projecting. Weaponizing the FBI to squash a story that would be damaging to yor political candidate on social media is exactly "Abuse of power"
The narrative that lockdowns were effective is completely done. You can't use it any more. Sorry.
BABHAHHAHAHAHAH I love how you stupid fucks are trying to blame Trump for the vaccines now that the damage they are doing is coming to light. Guess what, you will never, EVER be able to shrug off your responsibility for pushing these shots and mandates. This is on YOUR lap and your fellow authoritarain leftists. Not Trump. We won't forget. We will not forget how you acted over the past two years.
More lies. Who runs the FBI? Oh, wait, Trump's appointee. Still. And have you seen Bill Barr's secret memo where they worked out how to spin the Mueller report in Trump's favour? They didn't for one second consider indicting him, despite all the evidence. Hell, you could have written it, it was that bad.
The lockdowns helped. You're simply lying. But, since I'm not an idiot like you, I'd be willing to read something reputable that says they didn't, if you can find anything. You know, like the studies that established where the covid virus came from (it wasn't the lab). theconversation.com/the-covid-lab-leak-theory-is-dead-heres-how-we-know-the-virus-came-from-a-wuhan-market-188163
I'm not blaming Trump for the vaccines, they're a good thing. I'm pointing out your inability to admit Trump could do any wrong. Which is sad and dangerous.
I don't know. Nor do you. If it did, it was under a Trump appointee.
I can wait for you to justify your claim/lie that lockdowns had no effect. Or your response to Florida's over 31,000 covid deaths compared to New York's 16,700 over the last year. Maybe taking the pandemic seriously saves lives! Who'da thunk it?
No, you don't know. You're just lying again. Or repeating lies.
And, yes, Sweden did have some serious restrictions, as well as a functioning universal health care system, paid sick leave, and a low population density. I expect they had a lower number of anti-vax idiots. The US, over the last year or so would have done much better without the states that are determined to own the libs by killing their citizens. Which reminds me, why has Florida had nearly twice the number of deaths from covid in the last year as New York?
Funny, I was just going to point out that your (strangely Spanish?) graph was wrong. What was that about cherry picking?
This paper of excess deaths shows Sweden at 10%, much better than the UK at 18% (which also went for the stupid herd immunity approach until they realised it was killing far too many people), and the US at 22%, but much worse than Germany at 4%, and their neighbours Denmark -1%, Norway -4%, Greenland -3% (strange numbers, perhaps tourists kill themselves in massive numbers in those countries).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34190045/
Changing the subject? Sad. So, which states do you think did the right thing by avoiding lockdowns and refusing mask mandates? Florida's unnecessarily killed 14,000 of their citizens in the last year to own the libs. Nice job, DeSantis! (Have you seen DeSantis' Trump impression? He literally changed his voice and mannerisms to look more like Trump, who probably did the same with Mussolini.)
Those things, ignoring the hyperbole, are reasonable measures to take to protect people around you. They're why things are back to normal without massive numbers of people dying in reasonable states and countries. 4,800 covid deaths in Florida in the last three months, fewer than 2,000 in New York. So much better.
You know, it's actually possible to hold a conversation based in reality. But you'll just keep lying. Just like your original lie in this conversation: "US is not a democracy".
By the way: "An ABC News analysis of federal data found that on average, the death rates in states that voted for Trump were more than 38% higher than in states that voted for Biden, post widespread vaccine availability." abcnews.go.com/.../story?id=83649085 and "The COVID vaccine program is estimated to have prevented 2.2 million deaths." abcnews.go.com/.../story?id=83960103
Not. Of course, since you lie about everything, even the fact that the US is a democracy (and used to proudly proclaim it is the oldest democracy in the world, at least until fascists decided that they need it to go away because they're a minority of the country and think they should hold all the power anyway).
@goaded So this isn't a true statement?
"This interim final rule with comment (IFC) adds new provisions to the Head Start Program Performance Standards to mitigate the spread of the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) in Head Start programs. This IFC requires effective upon publication, universal masking for all individuals two years of age and older, with some noted exceptions, and all Head Start staff, contractors whose activities involve contact with or providing direct services to children and families, and volunteers working in classrooms or directly with children to be vaccinated for COVID-19 by January 31, 2022."
www.federalregister.gov/.../vaccine-and-mask-requirements-to-mitigate-the-spread-of-covid-19-in-head-start-programs
@goaded ooooh... so when you even have that commie Leana Wen admitting that masks delayed her child's development, it's wise to force masks on toddlers who need development assistance so that they can succeed in life. I guess that's because you leftists care so much about those in need.
But thanks for admitting they're mandated. And that you took yet another L.
Considering you started this with the lie that the US isn't a democracy, then the misinformation about Sweden, and you're now pretending that requiring masks in some very rare and voluntary situations is anything like them being mandated "for toddlers", let alone anything like a lockdown, it's not surprising you want to declare victory and get out. Don't let the door hit you on the way out, loser.
No, you're the one who thinks the US isn't a democracy, that Florida deliberately killing thousands of citizens to avoid a little inconvenience is a good idea, that (Trump's) FBI warning Facebook to watch out for Russian disinformation is the same as telling them to ignore a particular story (that happened to look exactly like disinformation), and that having to wear masks in certain optional circumstances is a mandate or a lockdown.
Oh, and you lied about Sweden, too.
@goaded It isn't a democracy, Florida didn’t shove covid patients into nursing homes, you got confused over which states deliberately killed people, 100% FBI coerced FB into hiding the hunter story, and it’s satanic to put toddlers in masks, not backed by any science. You’re scum for advocating for it.
And Sweden did better than most countries.
See, you're still lying about all of it, and proving you don't understand what a democracy is, or reality in general. All while trying to paint everyone who disagrees with you as evil.
No, Florida didn't "shove covid patients into nursing homes" in the heat of the outbreak of a pandemic. Instead, the Republicans running the state had a couple of months grace and then decided to not just ignore all the knowledge gained in those hectic months, but to actively stop people from doing the scientifically proven steps to prevent covid deaths. And now they've killed a larger proportion of their citizens than New York. They made a choice to let tens of thousands of people die rather than follow the scientific advice. Half of them since the vaccines were available to everyone, about 15,000 more than New York in the same time.
Nobody has to send their pre-school child to Head Start. While they're there, they should be protected from disease as much as possible. The rule you're so upset about was made at the height of the Delta wave, when children couldn't be vaccinated. They should probably update it. For all you know, they have.
Trump's FBI warned Facebook to look out for Russian disinformation (the sort of thing you parrot), and the laptop story looked like a classic case of that. Maybe Guiliani should have made it public when he received it and let the media check it out rather than trying to spring an October surprise.
@goaded So here’s goaded. A man child who claims to be a caring liberal. So worried about health and the poor. He understands that children in head start programs come from disadvantaged backgrounds and the whole entirety of “head start” is to give them a fighting chance to overcome their early childhood and compete in school. Any scientist who is being honest agrees that wearing masks causes developmental delays in our youngest and most vulnerable children. Any scientist who is being honest knows that children generally suffer no major illness from covid (delta or otherwise). Yet, here in August 2022 he thinks it’s completely rational to force these toddlers to wear masks. The rule is still in place, and he’s such a cultist he will gladly sacrifice these children’s academic careers on the alter of the Church of Covid.
Well done, boy.
It's sweet that you think that all your many lies, misinformation, and stupidity go away because you found one government rule that I said should have been changed now the Delta wave has passed. (The doctor who said masks aren't needed any more was talking specifically about Omicron and vaccinated children, neither of which were the case when the mask rule was written.)
No, for the last four days you've been trying desparately not to understand that a republic is where the power belongs to the people, and that the way if belongs to the people is via democratic elections. If a small group of powerful people decide to ignore the results of those elections, there's no longer a republic but a dictatorship. Which is clearly what you'd prefer.
So, another flexible definition: "fully support", apparently meaning being willing to understand the circumstances that were in place at the time. I don't even spend my time supporting Biden, but pointing out right-wing lies, of which you're a endless source.
And you were trying to distract from the fact that republics are a form of democracy.
Republics are democracies. People in a republic elect their representatives, otherwise they're living under a dictatorship like North Korea.
Vaccines, where the conversation about mandates stopped a year ago, still reduce the chances of getting seriously sick and dying, which is good enough for me.
You just can't stop ignoring the context things are said or done in, can you? If you want proof that masks and vaccines and just plain being sensible keep people alive, just look at the bus load of Floridians dying every day of covid.
Or using the stupid fallacy of the excluded middle, where something has to be 100% perfect or they're useless, unless you like them, in which case they just have to be 1% right to be perfect.
Weird. DTaP vaccines provide immunity. Not gene therapy
www.webmd.com/.../dtap-and-tdap-vaccines
You never mentioned foreign visitors or schools, and there are many vaccine mandates for schools, including tetanus, even in Florida. So you have made no point, just attempting to distract from the fact that republics are democracies. (Tetanus requires regular boosters, by the way.)
Of course the US is both a republic and a democracy. You COULD, if you actually cared about facts, say that the US is not a DIRECT (or PURE) democracy, but then no country on Earth is a democracy, we all elect representatives to government.
You said: " @goaded There's still a vaccine mandate for our military and for non citizens to come into the country. There's never a rationale for a vaccine to be mandated that doesn't stop the spread of a disease. "
Do you see the word school? (I admit I missed the "non citizens" part because of the swinging bollocks of the second sentence that had such a simple counter-example. Tetanus is not a contagious disease.)
@goaded ooooh... I see why you're so adamant about the phrase "democracy". It's so you authoritarian leftist shits can start calling everything done by anyone who's not an authoritarian leftist shit a "threat". And geez, we can do just about anything to a "threat". Fucking scumbags.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cauc9LnZpFA
Oh, for god's sake, A REPUBLIC IS A DEMOCRACY. PEOPLE VOTE for their representatives.
Threats to the ability to have your VOTE count are a threat to the REPUBLIC.
That's why people like you are saying black is white, up is down and the US is not a democracy. It's cover for passing laws to take away people's right to have their vote count.
You're projecting again. Ensuring people can vote and have their votes count is not authoritarian, it's the opposite. It's also essential to any democracy, even republics.
Accepting the results of an election you lost is not authoritarian, trying to find ways to overturn them is. Trying using violence is even more authoritarian.
So you admit those three "justices" got their positions through cheating. Heaven forbid that anyone would fight cheating with cheating. Only Republicans are allowed to call their opposition unamerican, after all. Three decades of that crap, and people are starting to see through it.
who the fuck doesn't want cheap gas...
i chose cheap gas
(like when trump was president ;) )
What's one got to do with the other? We had both 2 years ago!! Now, we don't have either!
How does anyone with half a brain vote for gas?
propaganda has regressed their minds to only being able to comprehend a few fixed basic facts.
@Sabretooth I don’t nation gives the average low information for that much credit. It’s regressed to the point of tribalism and either orange man good or orange man bad, despite the fact that he’s not even in office. Giving simplistic knuckle draggers a false dichotomy is a lot easier than parsing nuance and actual intelligent thought.
@Sixgunsound not so much tribalism on the left... though, I do feel like they try and deify the media a bit too much.
@Sabretooth It’s easier for the base on the left to succumb to information restrictions and just follow their marching orders then it is to actually understand the things they’re shouting or burning down cities over. If they did, they wouldn’t be leftists anymore.
@Sixgunsound I disagree. There wasn't exactly an overwhelming support for that.
@Sabretooth support for which thing?
@Sixgunsound burning and looting. Hold on... I wanna find a CNN piece that lays out the stark contrast...
@Sabretooth I’ll save you the trouble if it’s from Clinton news network. Or Fox, or any of the legacy outlets that are wholly owned subsidiaries of the Rothschilds.
If true democracy and honesty there would be affordable petrol. The harder we progress in our employment the better our economy will be. If we look for handouts the poorer our economy will be.
I'd rather have both. Like we had in 2019. (Yes, 2020 was cheaper, but we also had a lockdown then.)
www.macrotrends.net/.../crude-oil-price-history-chart
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/gasoline
I last visited the subject a few months ago when the prices were especially high. They seem to have moderated since, but the price of crude is still lower than for most of 2010-2014.
I hardly drive anyway so I'll take democracy.
I drive and chose the exact same answer as you did. Why? Because the conservatives here in the US have become the very same fascists that the Führer was back in the 1930s and 1940s.
Democracy was never in any danger, at least not by anything Trump was doing. I'll take the cheap gas.
Why can't we have both?
Can I pick the middle ground. Not cheap but still affordable gas with a barely functioning democracy? ... ya know, kind of like now. 🤣🤣🤣
America is not a democracy actually, it is a democratic public. I choose gas.
I literally just want Trump. I don’t care for elections when they put idiots like Biden in charge.
The democracy he is talking about is actually socialism/communism. That’s why gas is so expensive.
Look gas is not the issue they trying to make us go for electricity cars. Then damn things are built and no body wants them.
How in the fuck are those things not compatible?
Biden gives you neither of those.
Neither. I'd rather have cheap petrol.
You can't vote if you died of cold, can you?
Democracy won't fuel my car.
Why would you choose, if you can have both?
Democracy. I don’t believe in driving.
cheap gas - democracy is long gone
Biden is a communist, give me cheap gas !!!
one has nothing to do with the other.
Why not both?
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