During economic crisis, is it right to support any war?

[justFriend]

The war between Russia and Ukraine continues Decisively. And now there is an economic crisis. Do you think it is right to provide financial support to Greece in the event of a war between Turkey and Greece Decisively? (For France)

[jshm2]

There is no "war" between Russia and Ukraine.

It's mostly an intervention by Russia, on behalf of the breakaway Donbass regions of Ukraine, that don't want to align with the West.

They remember what the Europeans and Americans did to them during the world wars and would rather align with Russia.

The economic crisis is due to Britain's Boris fucking up the EU with his Brexit, and the USA's Trump fucking up China with his trade war. This stymied the markets and lead to judders in the global economic system.

The issues with Turkey and Greece are more over refugees and controls than anything else. Both are having to deal with many issues due to outside forces.

[justFriend]

The refugee issue is a different issue.. Our problem is the islands and the transportation of weapons to the islands. In addition to these, border violations

[Vanidal]

I don't know if I can be fair enough to support anyone in a war.
What I know true is my own personal crisis.
And the crisis of the ones close to me.
Mostly those I care about.
And my capability to help anyone is limited.
Until I'm capable enough to help without destroying myself, I'll support myself and the ones I care about to get through the economic crisis and to avoid any war as healthy as I can.
I don't want to sacrifice myself.
It's nice to have more wealth to sacrifice.
But that's currently not what I have.

[justFriend]

you say it first myself :)

[Missgingles]

I think you should support as much as you can to a point where you can still take care of your own country.

Although Ukraine has very racist views its still not okay what's happening to them.

I have no information about war between Turkey and Greece. What is that about?:)

[justFriend]

Air border violation :)

[Missgingles]

Okay. Can you elaborate?:)

[justFriend]

Turkey says: Greece is violating our air border. Greece says: Turkey is violating our air border.
There is evidence for both countries.
In addition to these, there are islands around Turkey. In former years, these islands were given to Greece on the condition of being unarmed. But the United States carries weapons to these islands.
And Turkey says that if you carry weapons to these islands, we will open a war. Because there is a security breach here.
greece says that we carry these weapons to protect ourselves from Russia.
Of course, Turkey does not believe..

[Missgingles]

So again US is the reason for this war

[justFriend]

Yes yes :)

[Missgingles]

Yeah US sucks with those stuff. They should just mind their own business. They have started so many wars its insane

[justFriend]

Unfortunately, everything is for political interests. People shouldn't die

[Missgingles]

Yes ofcorse! People shouldn't die. But US has started a lot they didn't need to

[justFriend]

It's definitely the USA that gets the blood going.

[Sixgunsound]

Do you understand the difference between what the people of the USA want and what the rulers of the USA want? Because the people have vastly different interests and concerns than the ruling class, just like the people in most countries which are exploited by their governments do.

[justFriend]

@Sixgunsound The US does not want peace. He acts in accordance with his interests..

[Sixgunsound]

The US is hundreds of millions of people, only a small fraction of which get to make national decisions. Do you disagree?

[justFriend]

@Sixgunsound What is the number of voters in the USA and what percentage of them vote?

[Sixgunsound]

I’m not sure what that has to do with anything. As we’ve seen recently in 2020, voting doesn’t matter because the ruling class just does whatever they want to us.

[justFriend]

@Sixgunsound I disagree with that. If you think that the election was rigged, you can object as a different party

[Sixgunsound]

In the US we have the illusion of choice for our president, but the reality of the situation is that a bunch of wealthy connected members of the ruling class choose the president and are not legally required to follow the will of the people. We have the illusion of choice not an actual choice. It already is being contested, but that is unlikely to be resolved in time for it to matter. What seems more likely is that it will be resolved in the court of public opinion later this year.

[justFriend]

@Sixgunsound Unfortunately, I don't have detailed information. you can be right maybe

[Sixgunsound]

Research the Electoral College. American citizens votes have nothing to do with who becomes president, and who this makes wars or business deals overseas. It is for that reason that I think you judge America too harshly when it’s people have no control over what it’s top leadership do.

[justFriend]

@Sixgunsound I'm going to look into it and I want to be sure.

[Sixgunsound]

I hope you are serious. I would rather talk to someone with information than without it.

[justFriend]

@Sixgunsound You'll see how serious I am when I get back to you for this subject :)

[ZS007]

In case of war France will definitely help Greece they are on good terms and Europeans countries generally should help each other. Turkey keeps provoking Greece even today... Cyprus will help of course.

[ZS007]

Not to mention Turkey has been threatening with war for years. They want people to be scared. Turkey should seriously f off from everyone's business Cypru's as well give our lands back. They started rebuilding a ghost town where people still expect to return and get back to after hopefully a solution is found. I hate politicians...

[Nintendo-64]

First of all greeks are the ones who are agressor here , not vice versa.
Turkey is a country surrounded by enemies from all sides and all we Turks want is to exist and survive withing our lands freely.
Greece on the other hand has always been a aggressive, expansionist, faschist, terror state making irredentists claims on Turkic lands.
You have been violating our borders as far as I know and weaponizing the aegean islands , of course against Turkey.
Greek expansionism and irredentism? Megalo idea is still prevelant in your Contemporary mindsets.
Your nation is plain disgusting.
Also we dont care who will support you. We fought against 7 major world power 100 years ago and won. We won't hesitate to do it again.
F.. k greece, f... k cyprus and f... k nato hypocrites who supports the greek agressor against turkey.

[Nintendo-64]

Also Turkeys prevelance in cyprus is %100 legitimate.
We have right to protect lifes of our brethren in the island.
EOKA TERRORISTS tried to ethnic clense Turkish population in the island anf thats what you get in return. Deal with it.
Long live TURKISH REPUBLIC OF NORTHERN CYPRUS.

[Nintendo-64]

*and

[ZS007]

@Nintendo-64 only Turkey officially recognizes the so called republic of northern Cyprus. It's lovely seeing Turkish Cypriots having problems cause their documents aren't recognized so they need help from Greek Cypriots. Ridiculous to even think that what Erdogan is doing is good for you 🤣 Not that our president is better. They all suck. I'm gonna stick to what I think idfc about your opinion. Turkey is the one that is most at fault at the moment.

[justFriend]

1-According to the agreement, Yunanistan cannot carry weapons to the islands. 2-There is a border violation and the documents have been sent to NATO.
Why is Turkey to blame? Please let's be neutral

[justFriend]

Cyprus is as it should be right now.

[BeMuse]

That's the point. Your government hates you and they are trying to destroy your country. They are controlled by the WEF. They engineered that energy crisis and food crisis on the horizon so that you would be cold, starving, and desperate. They want you dependent, so that they can force a communist dictatorship on you. They want your economy to crash and burn, so that your currency can be changed to a digital fiat currency and social credit system that they can use to control you in their planned surveillance state. It's the Chinese model, and they have been paid off to sell you out. The more important question, is what are you going to do about it?

[WindAtMyBack]

Wars are really bad for business. Only a small select few companies benefit from it. The rest tend to put things on hold until things stabilize and become more predictable. It's hard enough to predict the future in normal times. Add to that the uncertainty of war and it becomes even more unpredictable.

[justFriend]

Wherever a war starts, the economy collapses there

[DryGermanGuy]

Unfortunately for the Turkish people, Mr. Erdogan gets more shrill, unstable and obstinate the longer he rules. His incompetent actions have ruined the currency and the abilities of the Turkish central bank long before the Ukraine war. I hope the Turkish voters do the right thing and dispose of Mr. Erdogan and the AKP at the earliest possibility.

[justFriend]

Every leader has good and bad sides. The economy of Turkey is quite bad. But the Turks will not stop fighting under any circumstances

[DryGermanGuy]

I don’t doubt Mr. Erdogan‘s good intentions in the beginning, but whatever he may have achieved back then has long gone. The man has become a huge liability.

[justFriend]

yes i know..

[Nintendo-64]

Greece has been violating our land, sea and air borders for a long time. Their historic irredentism and expansionist mindset is still prevelant apprerantly...

They have also been weaponizing aegean islands. Quess, against who? Greeks have been forcing our patience for a long time. And our so called Nato allies taking their side doesn't help either. Allience should be a mutual relationship. Nato is an hypocrite organization.

[justFriend]

Border violations continue mutually, I think. Because Greece can also provide documents like Turkey. (Regarding Turkey's border violation) The United States is a nato member and makes other nato members do what they want (Greece). But You can't stop Turks . Countries should not underestimate the Turks, not Greece.

[monkeynutts]

Neither of those countries can scrape two sticks together to fight a conflict. Some people just don't know when enough is enough. Nothing would be anymore stupider right now than for Two more countries to be involved in an exchange of firearms.

[justFriend]

I think countries should not be underestimated. and nobody dont want to war

[monkeynutts]

Unfortunately your wrong, it's attitudes like this, that caused the holocaust. Your indignant, you been humiliated, seems like you just need to be given a weapon and you can make yourself feel better, before you know it you will be raping children and murdering old people because they are easiest targets to satisfy your bloodlust.

[Sixgunsound]

Greeks and turks have been at war for thousands of years, what does France get out of helping either one? I don’t support US involvement in Ukraine because I don’t see what the US gets out of it. I suppose I should say I don’t understand what the people of the US get out of it; I understand quite well what the ruling class gets out of it.

[Sargentcaptain]

Yeah, if the cause and the allies are right. Since bitches don't want to send troops to Ukraine, I could give less of a fuck how many billions they send. Conservatives would rather be Russian bitches than have a spine and fight for our allies and stand up to evil.

[globetrotter22]

This war wouldn’t of happened in the first place if Biden didn’t demonstrate fecklessness with the Afghanistan pull out. That emboldened Putin to invade the Ukraine.

[justFriend]

I dont know. maybe...

[Sandeeppingping]

Yea they should, the usa should the most but wouldn't, I know you're turkish from the first time you asked a question and I asked you where you're from, but man turkey's wrong about this one, I understand protection and all, but these islands historically are greek, and greeks have the right to do whatever they want with them, but I feel like tensions are truly rising man, Europe has to stick together and I don't see them agreeing with turkey in the least bit whether it's France or Germany

[justFriend]

According to the agreement, these islands would remain unarmed?
Greece broke the deal, didn't it?
Greece is not a strong country. But if Greece is supported by Europe, it will be difficult for us. But we Turks do not know give up

[MiseriaCantareAFI]

You ever notice how countries tend to rally around a common enemy, even when they themselves tend to be at each others throats over civil stuff

Remember 9/11, it brought people together, against a common cause

[justFriend]

yes you are right

[ibodi]

The video speak all Include the novels and animation.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/7k_d3bjpaeY

[msc545]

Financing war is evil

[justFriend]

yess bro..