If capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings, is socialism the equal sharing of misery?

[Sixgunsound]

Serious responses only, I’ll be taking troll posts or personal attacks down.

[nightdrot]

Well, the basic truth of the second half of the statement is irrefutable and history has more or less borne it out. The first half has a degree of truth as well, but as a whole, the the statement is actually mistaken, though perhaps not quite in the way that may be read.

To start, socialism was NOT the equal sharing of misery. The elites lived and lived well. In the communist states, the leaders of the party - effectively the government - had all the privileges and perks that any rich person in a capitalist state would have. They did not suffer, and in that sense they did NOT share the misery of the people they governed. The only difference being that the nature of the socialist system precluded - except perhaps if the individual had political connections - any improvement in their status.

On the capitalist side, make no mistake, the wealthy live better. This is what makes capitalism work. The ability to improve one's station and reap the benefits of doing so. Risk can be rewarded.

However, here, two qualifiers are relevant. To start, while the rich do live better, in the capitalist system that tends to spread across the society over time. Thus it is that the poor today, in many respects, have a higher standard of living than did the rich 500 years ago.

As the society grows generally wealthier, the wealth will tend to spread - through various means - across the whole of society. The benefits of technology spread to the whole of society. Thus, once upon a time, a cell phone was the province of the rich. Today it is pretty much available across society.

Further, contrary to popular belief, the welfare state is the product of capitalism. It was, in fact, invented by two conservatives - Disraeli in Britain and Bismarck in Germany - for the purpose of reconciling the public to the dynamics of a free market economy. It used the surplus wealth of society to alleviate the impact of illness, old age and temporary unemployment.

(Important note: The welfare state is NOT socialism. Socialism being characterized by the abolition of private property, government ownership of the means of production and a centrally planned economy.)

By contrast, the socialist states really had no welfare system. No safety net. (For example, China had no national health care system until the very late 20th century. Prior to that, it simply relied upon the old village system that was a carryover from monarchical times.) If a person "fell through the cracks" he or she was left to their fate. Able to care for themselves only by cutting deals with those in power who managed the economy. Thus also explaining the massive corruption that characterized so much of the socialist world and ultimately helped to bring it down.

The bottom line is that the capitalist system facilitated self-correcting mechanisms that helped to alleviate the impact of its' imperfections. Socialism had no such mechanisms and thus, when the strains became too great, the whole thing came crashing down.

[USLegionary]

We have neither in America. What we live in is an oligarchy and the oligarchs since the have been getting greedier and greedier throughout the decades. The middle and working classes are getting squeezed more and more. Less pay, more tax, less work, rise in the cost of living, inflation...

[JessicaEarl]

Wow I’m so sick of January 6 shit

[USLegionary]

@JessicaEarl me too. We've had civil unrest everyday since 2014, all of a sudden politicians care when it happens at their workplace

[Sixgunsound]

They’re so out of touch with the economy because the stock market doesn’t affect their graft or kickbacks. They’re also so out of touch with the sentiment among their constituents that they had to show up on their door screaming and yelling in order to get their attention. That is not effective government.

[USLegionary]

Senators like Pelosi do quite well out of the stockmatket. She hasn't made a bade trade yet, she had the ultimate insider info, knows exactly what projects the federal government will and won't back

[Smoke-n-Growls]

While I recognize socialism has a bad rap, I think we can all agree the great capitalist experiment only benefits 1%.

Plus capitalism is diametrically opposed to what needs to happen on a global socioeconomic scale to save the planet and move us past the next big threat to our species: consuming ourselves to extinction.

The planet will heal if all humans die, but if we don't heal the planet all humans will die. It's foolish to think we could survive if our planet doesn't. We don't have interstellar travel options, and even if we did most of us wouldn't be able to afford it.

Socialism, in its ideal, is the concept of "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need". Considering what would happen if we simply taxes the rich at an equitable rate and taxed corporations at a fair rate without allowing tax havens, we'd have an abundance of "to their need" resources.

If you like to work or "produce", do so. You will be rewarded and any excess will be distrubuted. If you don't want to work or "produce" do so. You will receive what you need, but must fend for yourself for additional items.

It's important to note that socialism doesn't really like to have idle hands. It operates on the principal of everyone doing what they can. It won't support a legion of lazy loafers. Fortunately I think it's pretty reliable that, if everyone's basic needs are taken care of, generally people will "produce". Whether that's growing food or making art or teaching - things in Capitalism that fall by the wayside in the ever-lasting search for another gold coin.

Personally, I think humans have a natural bend to something like socialism. We evolved into our current success because we intertwine and interconnect. Socialism takes that to a whole new level, rewarding sharing and collaboration more than capitalism does.

[Sixgunsound]

When William Bradford first landed at what would later become Plymouth colony, he instituted socialism as you describe. It was not only an unmitigated disaster but killed a respectable portion of the entire population. When he stopped stealing from the productive to subsidize the nonproductive, the explosion in production from increased workforce participation enabled unimaginable abundance and prosperity which allowed the colony to not only survive but thrive. Socialist kleptocracies are awesome for the usually white usually male ruling class, but tend not to work out so well for ANYONE else. I think our disagreement stems from the incompatibility of belief in a system of profitable but dangerous freedom to achieve if you are willing to work for it vs. a belief in the safety of misery enforced by bully police and other government machine guns, secret police, and sham trials, where so long as sufficient compliance with increasingly draconian restrictions is maintained you’ll get your bread and circuses. And I’m only talking about Trudeau, but history is replete with many other examples.

[Sixgunsound]

I don’t see how anybody knows anybody else anything. I absolutely support private charity but not government gun enforced public ‘charity’. Government handouts are the hand that holds people down, he will never convince me otherwise.

[Sixgunsound]

Owes*

[Smoke-n-Growls]

Guess you're on your own when your house burns, or when you get sick. Firefighters and doctors don't owe you service, I guess. 🤷🏽

[Sixgunsound]

Strictly speaking no they don’t. But they accepted payment as employees with that job description, so as long as they continue in that job they are required to perform that function.

[Sixgunsound]

Also you do realize I’m a teacher, right?

[Sixgunsound]

I kind of want to MHO this just to highlight the lack of substantive argument or meaningful response.

[Shamalien]

Your understanding of economics is piss poor. Capitalism benefits all. Cronyism benefits the 1%. We have crony capitalism, miles better than socialism but it gets worse every day as we drift further to socialism, a system which is corrupted far quicker than capitalism

[purplepoppy]

No. The whole idea that in a socialist society everything is spread out equally. Any idiot can see that wouldn't work. What a socialist believes is things should be spread out fairly and we all have a collective responsibility for each other. A socialist doesn't begrudge someone making a large profit, but when that's done by not paying a fair wage, cutting corners, abusive work policies, unfair discrimination, exploitation etc then that's a different story.

What a capitalist wants is everyone on their knees begging for a bowl of gruel.

[JessicaEarl]

You can’t define capitalists by their worst members, just like you’re saying you can’t define socialists by their worst members. What a true capitalist wants is for the reward to incentivize better ideas and products so society benefits.

Also if you think socialism doesn’t have discrimination, exploitation, cutting corners and unfair wages…I encourage you to do some traveling

[PeteBy]

I'm on the fence on this one. Bear with me. Generally agree with both you and Jessica. I'm naturally a Tory voter but do believe in some socialist values. Having lived in the US I have seen hownthe have and have not's are treated and it's a world away from here. Curious why people here vote the way they do though when all the parties are basically the same. Compared to the US, which lost it's way.

[ODC2112]

It is useless to talk about capitalism or socialism with the Americans, for them capitalism is only neo-Gladstonian capitalism, everything else is socialism. So there is no dialogue and no possibility of discussion.

[Sixgunsound]

@ODC2112 I was referring more to the Plymouth colony and William Bradford’s experiments with socialism that almost wiped out his community and his experiments with capitalism that led to enough surplus that he could afford to share with neighboring civilizations. I find it difficult to discuss socialism with people who don’t have any ground level experience outside of the ivory tower or safe heated or cooled office buildings with running water and a cafe. Theodore Dalrymple is the pen name of a British MD who has several books out exposing how poorly functioning the British socialized healthcare system is. Have you or anyone in your insular champagne socialist echo chamber actually met someone begging for a bowl of gruel? Chances are they live in a socialist country in a city such as Calcutta. The Raj sure showed them the glories of socialism, didn’t it?

[krsterne5280]

My country is currently under the control of the Socialist Democrats under the name of The Solidarity Party of Indonesia.
Currently my country, even before the Russian invasion of Ukraine COVID-19.
My country has become a sh*t under the socialist rules, tax rates are getting higher and business red tapes are becoming harder to get. Even creating an ID or KTP would take you 1½ years to make, unless you bribe the PNS or the Government workers.
Socialism apparently has created more misery and more unnecessary Beurocracy, and it leads to many people bribe people no matter what the circumstances are.
And now our government are banning sites like Reddit and PornHub for "pornography" while allowing Twitter for some odd reasons.
And then the Indonesian Government has tons of debt from China, we currently have some hidden debt from the Chinese which I don't even know how much do my government owe to the Chinese.
https://en. tempo. co/read/1514391/research-claims-indonesia-owes-us17-8bn-hidden-debts-to-china
And then Our recent ban of Foreign (Imported) Electronics, PayPal, Steam, etc. By the Indonesian Minister of Technology or Kominfo is just really desperate, because Kominfo wanted to make PayPal and Steam to be registered under the Kominfo Database and pay a huge sum of money to the Kominfo. Luckily PayPal and Steam didn't acknowledged Kominfo's threat because recently like this week, a polish hacker has hacked Kominfo's database and sell those datas especially from a private company to the black market.
https://www. detik. com/jateng/berita/d-6288399/arti-nama-bjorka-hacker-yang-acak-acak-indonesia
So I don't really have too much hope for my country honestly, and not to mentioned there's a growing trend of support for an Islamic Caliphate state and the end of Freeport McPort from the Islamic Defence Front here. Because they think that Americans are the main cause of poverties across Indonesia, so it's becoming more complicated here.
The incompetent government growing support for an Islamic Caliphate is just a recipe for another Tehran being made.
So socialism isn't a blessing, it is a curse about to become the next Iran. (If you live in a Muslim country).

[Sixgunsound]

What role is the European green new deal playing in the devastation of your countries farming industry? Reports are getting out that it’s really really bad. Thank you for having the courage to post about what is really happening in your life here. It is very helpful to those of us who live in countries that aren’t allowed to hear bad things about the international socialist experience anymore. American companies are stopping Americans from hearing stories like yours as much as they are able to.

[hyperben]

the fundamental idea of socialism is that everyone should have an equal opportunity and that shared wealth benefits society in general. in reality, socialism has only ever been used as a tool by power hungry leaders to cooerce the masses. Capitalism, is essentially the illusion of freedom which is used as a tool to tempt the masses.

Capitalism and socialism are kind of 2 sides to one coin, if you go far enough you will find the opposite side, socialism is behind every capitalist society and capitalism is behind every socialist society. When a big company needs a bail out from the government, it comes from taxes which are just socially gathered funds, this is socialism dressed up as capitalism. when a producer/factory in a socialist country needs to crush a competitor they reduce their prices which is capitalism dressed as socialism.

Most people are unable or unwilling to think too deeply about this, its easier to just accept what we were educated to believe and are relatively content to feel like the opposite of what you grew up with is bad or wrong.

[Kiran_Yagami]

There is nothing equal about socialism. We have socialist and communist countries in existence in today's world. Why do those countries have rich people? Why do they have people at the top who are above the many hardships of the common man? Why are there so many rich Chinese, Russian, and Venezuelans? What is equal about that? Socialism really just the rebranding of the feudal system. Those born poor stay poor, while those born rich stay rich. There are simply more poor people in socialist nations that there are in capitalist nations and the gap between the rich and poor is wider in socialist nations than capitalist nations.

[Sixgunsound]

Facts.

[NewsReader]

Hmmm... I think that's a pretty simple way of summarizing it. My family is from the former Soviet Union and everyone had to deal with the same problems. No financial reward for hard work, lack of food and resources, sometimes one person unfairly received more than someone else; sometimes not. You never knew what to expect. Sure there were some positives such as the option to send your children to whichever activity they wanted at no extra cost. Your super high taxes covered it. If you had a lot of kids, you won since you did not have to spend a ruble to send your kids to camp or school. If you had no kids or one kid, you lost because you still had to pay for the other kids. And much more.

[loveslongnails]

I think this is an odd question and a bit of a word gumbo. But that said, I always find it interesting to hear the "socialism vs capitalism" discussion. Why? Because there has never, ever in recorded history been a truly socialist state or country! Never! Every attempt at one has resulted in a dictatorship and/or non-consolidation of resources and power.

The world as we know it has always been run by the Golden Rule of "he who has the gold makes the rules", whatever the "gold" happened to be during the period. The concept of socialism has morphed into nothing more than a political trigger word used to stir up fear, while the ironic fact remains - it's never happened!

[Sixgunsound]

Would you like a list of countries that have Socialism in their charter constitution or similar founding documents?

[Sixgunsound]

Perhaps inclusive of countries that act the part but just won’t commit to spelling it out?

[Sixgunsound]

It might surprise most people just how high is the United States scores on Socialism.

[loveslongnails]

No, because it's irrelevant as to the practice of it in the purest sense.

[loveslongnails]

I know exactly how much the US employs practices that are in the "realm" of what many consider "socialism". However, it's more in line with the concept of a "Great Society" and taking care of the poorer among its citizens. We have programs for the "social good", and that's a FAR, FAR cry from the redistribution of wealth. You can't make a logical argument that socialism prevails in the USA when 5% of the richest individuals and families control 85% of the wealth. As I said, capitalism is the dominant force in the USA, and the term "socialism" is nothing but a fear mongering trigger.

[Sixgunsound]

How else would you define raising the amount of property confiscated from the productive class to subsidize the non-productive?

[loveslongnails]

By property you mean money? Taxes? If "productivity" is the measure, what do rich folks who don't work but live off interest and investments actually "contribute" to the benefit of society? The word game you're playing here oversimplifies too much. By your definition, charity falls under socialism too. Give it a rest. I'm disengaging.

[Sixgunsound]

Hiring people is a good start. Hope you have a great night.

[TroyDT]

Capitalism (not crony corporatism as currently practiced in the USA) is based upon merit, ingenuity, proper planning and allocation of assets, and the such.

Socialism: Unless you have everyone willing to work as hard as he/she can and still share as needed, socialism only works as a leech off capitalistic ventures.

So in general the statement is true, although for the truly lazy or inept socialism likely gives them greater personal rewards, at least till the leech kills the host.

[hahahmm]

Capitalism is a system where some things are rigged. Socialism is a system where everything is rigged. I'll pick Capitalism 100% of the time.

[Sixgunsound]

Well said

[JessicaEarl]

The notion that capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings implies that certain people are handed mountains of money that was never earned. Handing people money they don’t earn is actually a socialist approach.

capitalism is earning your money, and if you want more money, go out and earn more.

[Sixgunsound]

Somebody had to earn it, even if it was parents or grandparents who wanted to make their offspring or future generations more prosperous. I don’t see a problem with someone coming by money honestly, and then leaving it to their children. In fact, that is the basis of hereditary government such as the monarchy in the United Kingdom.

[JessicaEarl]

Precisely

[NotTacocaT6969]

It doesn’t really matter.


All forms of government we are able to see today are only shells of what they once were.


Over the generations many things about them have changed, but their definitions have not.


Corruption makes it’s way into everything and ruins it all eventually.


For example, If the founders of the united states government saw their government today, they would jump right back into their caskets and close the lids…

[Shamalien]

No they wouldn’t. They would fight, armed rebellion, as we should have done decades ago

[Dargil]

Capitalism is the equal sharing of opportunity. Capitalists fail as often as we succeed. But ya gotta give it a shot. We are never promised equal outcomes. That's what Socialism attempts to promise it's rank and file. What they actually get is enriching the riling class.

[Sixgunsound]

That is why I equated Socialism to shared misery. The Kleptocrats who run the country get as much as they possibly can for themselves which will still allow their serfs to live.

[TrueConfection]

Socialism is definitely the forcing of equal poverty.

[Sixgunsound]

Unless you are a party member, at which point you live like aristocrats.

[JessicaEarl]

Successful entrepreneurs make way more then the politicians do

[Sixgunsound]

@JessicaEarl The true money in politics isn’t salary based.

[JessicaEarl]

Okay, let’s hear some examples with sustainable evidence

[Sixgunsound]

@JessicaEarl Wait, you’re actually serious?

[Sixgunsound]

Also, to make sure we’re on the same page, what is a sustainable example? I don’t make a point of keeping up with the latest leftist buzzwords, but I have been around long enough to hear sustainability a lot in the last few years.

[JessicaEarl]

Lol I’m far far from leftist. I haven’t been on buzz feed in years. Any evidence that I feel like I can trust. A research study that’s peer reviewed or something? Records of these under the table earnings? I’m happy to be convinced, I just need an actual display of evidence, not just a claim

[Sixgunsound]

@JessicaEarl ballotpedia.org/Changes_in_Net_Worth_of_U.S._Senators_and_Representatives_(Personal_Gain_Index)

[JessicaEarl]

That is interesting. No one denied that politicians are mostly becoming celebrity products. Everyone’s gotta follow AOC. Everyone’s gotta buy Michelle Obama’s new book. Biden’s family profit off of using his name as a VP/pres.

But all I’m saying is that the job itself is now super lucrative, it’s the dirty side of it where they essentially become entrepreneurs using themselves as products. Which it seems is what you’re also saying

[Sixgunsound]

@JessicaEarl 👍 Influence peddling is the name of the phenomenon.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

As a socialist I think the free market is the best thing ever... problem is that it doesn't regulate itself properly.

Let privates thrive. Just don't let them fuck over employees or the customer. And have decent public services as well.

This applies to business, education, health, etc.

[Sixgunsound]

I’d be interested in exploring what you mean by properly. I’m assuming we have different definitions so I’d like to hear yours.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Sadly humans are greedy. So if there is no regulation those with power will stomp on those without, aka employees. Even today people have very hardworking jobs, to get a minimal wage, while the bosses get a millionaire salary.

Have you heard of the term "quiet quitting"?
Is getting traction recently and it's basically a worker doing just his job and nothing more. Literally just the amount of hours and work required. Everything is done, and no extra hours or tasks are done. That is being called quiet quitting! It's absurd. We got to a point where just doing your job is looked down upon. People are expected to live for work instead or work for a living.

The more power we give to corporations the more they will screw the workers and the customers over.

[KelleyNice]

It would be nice if we had capitalism in the USA. However, that would require a government that is not all powerful. Therefore, the USA mostly socialism; only a little capitalism.

[Sixgunsound]

I did mention that to one user who did not want to continue discussing the matter. Too many people who already have too much money to live long enough to spend would lose their shot at more if we didn’t have socialist racism and classism in this country. But what kind of responses do you expect from sheeple brainwashed in the public indoctrination system to bleat big government good and orange man bad? The US government uses bread and circuses not only to distract one side of the population, but to build a divide based on resentment from the other half. In this way the government gets to maintain its false dichotomy of left versus right, when the actual directions we should be concerned about are up versus down. Trump committed the cardinal sin of dynastic politics by shifting blame and resentment away from any particular race gender or economic position firmly onto the shoulders of the aristocratic permanent political class where it belongs. They need to destroy him and anybody who thinks like him before the virus of individual thought and realization of how bad we’re getting screwed from above spreads.

[UCrayCray]

I don’t know for sure. How many blessings do the truly blessed have to give up before it becomes misery?
And if their are only so many blessings to go around, should those who can horde them do so?

[jshm2]

That's a false dichotomy.

There are monopolies and exceptionalism in many capitalist systems that share nothing. The socialist countries have some of the happiest people on earth and they have trading surpluses.

Try again, sunny.

[JessicaEarl]

Which socialist countries exactly?

[exitseven]

Yes, I like the Margaret Thatcher take that the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. i also like the one that says "socialism, you vote it in but you have to shoot your way out."

[NaultD]

As the saying goes many hands make light work. The brutality of daily life shared across everyone makes life bearable and grows each and every one of us stronger.

[JessicaEarl]

Sounds familiar 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳

[Msputiton]

Pretty much we would all have an equal share in the money businesses made.

I'm sure there's more to it but that's as much as i know

[Sixgunsound]

But when the state has all the power and tells state owned businesses who is allowed to work what they’re allowed to make, and sets wages approximately at the breakeven point with groceries and housing, where does that leave ambitious young people who want to do better? What effect does that have on motivation to do your best job when you go to work?

[Msputiton]

I didn't say i agree with it.
Just telling you what i know about it.
I believe in ambition and drive to succeed

[Sixgunsound]

Fair enough you didn’t. You have a good outlook on life.

[Msputiton]

My momma's country has a saying.

You don't work, you don't eat.

That's what we were raised by.

[Sixgunsound]

You know I said those exact same words in Boot Camp one day when I didn’t pull my weight and didn’t eat dinner that night.

[Msputiton]

Lmao. Ours comes from the Bahamas

[Sixgunsound]

Thomas Sowell, world famous academic economist and originator of many of my economic beliefs, asked a very good question: how much of someone else’s money is your fair share?

[Soteris]

Oversimplifying complex political systems are not going to give you a good or accurate answer.

[Sixgunsound]

It’s not complex. Capitalism let’s you choose if you want to sink or swim, socialism holds you underwater.

[Soteris]

Again, a massive oversimplification that ruins the fundamental truth.

Both Socialism and Capitalism encompasses a large number of political ideologies, policies and economic models. Saying something like "Capitalism lets you choose if you want to sink or swim.." is a sure sign that you dont know what you are talking about.

[Sixgunsound]

The reason Einstein was such a good professor is not because he maintained tradition and kept knowledge locked behind the walls of jargon and used language that lay people can’t understand, it’s because he simplified everything so even non-physicists could understand his point. He did this even against his own and his university’s business interests, so that more people could have a basic grasp of complex subjects. Politics really is not as complex as you seem so desperate to make it.

[Soteris]

Well he is doing them a disservice then. For example, teaching children about the atom using that good ol planetary model is not only wrong but actively gets in the way of understanding the true nature of atoms and quantum physics.

Just because something is simple or intuitive does not mean its useful or dont harm you in the long run. I would even go a step further and say that speaking on Capitalism or Socialism as a whole is pointless because they contain so many contrary subcategories that you are left with only the most worthless and vaguest explanations left which is not helpful at all to understand what either stands for.

[Sixgunsound]

Alright man, you can ‘win’ by repeating yourself the most often. Hope it makes you feel better and that you have a good day.

[Soteris]

I win by being correct. Saying it in other ways would therefore not be correct anymore so I am not entirely sure what you expect quite frankly.

[TwoToTooTutu2]

No Capitalism is the private ownership of the Means of Production and Socialism is the Public Ownership of the Means of Production. Typically this leads to even worse working conditions and a larger disparity between the upper and lower class.

[Agape93]

Depends entirely on how you view it. Way I see it, money is a means to an end, nothing more.

[Sixgunsound]

So you will line more closely with the render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s school of thought? Not necessarily the religious text that came from, but the sentiment behind it.

[Agape93]

Not really. You earn what you earn, and you use it for your own purposes. It's not an end goal any more than food or cosmetics. They're things we attain for certain uses. The end goal is what we achieve by using then

[cloud9vortex1234]

I'm kind of confused about it. Norway seems to be doing quite well under their form of socialism while places like Venezuela is a Basket Case. Does that mean theirs a point where too much socialism is worse then a moderate amount of socialism?

[JessicaEarl]

The Scandinavian countries laugh when we call them socialist. They are capitalist with social programs. South American countries are socialist so their politicians can keep iron holds on their people and they remain more powerful than any person or business.

[cloud9vortex1234]

@JessicaEarl Ok, we actually have that as well in the U. S., but I'm sure it's to a Lesser Degree than Norway.

[JessicaEarl]

Correct. There’s a huge difference between have a social program like the fire department or even health care and having no concept of personal property

[slatyb]

It's not like a light switch. All modern democracies have some forms of social insurance.

[Cubus]

In socialism everyone is equally poor. There is a glass ceiling of wealth you can't break.

[Sixgunsound]

If you think you’re breaking the glass ceiling in a socialist country what you’re actually hearing is the government thugs opening up their machine guns behind you.

[Cubus]

I said there is no breaking the glass ceiling there

[Sixgunsound]

Right because the government will stop you.

[Sixgunsound]

In the US, socialists in government use welfare and subsidies to create a permanent voluntary under class addicted to Socialism which will keep them in power forever.

[grega239]

I guess you could describe it like that

[Snakeyes7]

When everyone is blessed, no one is

[JessicaEarl]

I don’t agree with this. If you need someone worse off than you to compare yourself to in order to feel blessed, you’ve got some maturity problems.

However, if there is a finite amount of blessings, than no one will reach the level of “blessed” because resources are spread so thin

[Snakeyes7]

@JessicaEarl I was trying to say that if everyone has an equal amount of money, everyone is equally impoverished.

[jimmy2]

Make a left and life better

[joeldalton]

yes 100%