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Do you consider white lives matter shirts to be violent?
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No, black lives matter is violent and savage.
Last time i checked almost 99% of people in the trump rallies were carrying weapons while black live matters protests was 3%...
@Calenderagressive Which one burned down major portions of cities, which one claimed that mowing down people at a Christmas parade was "revolutionary," which one took over part of Seattle? Which one has as its philosophical influence a man who claimed that white women want to be raped by black men? I give you a hint, it isn't Trump.
@Jackblue agree.
Can we just get away from ALL racially charged movements? If it was just about color blind society peace I would support. But there are several incidents of innocent white people being murdered by police in the last few years that BLM and the MSM didn’t give a damn about. Google Tony Timpa to see what I am talking about.
But I am so sick of hearing about race. Sick of it. But BLM was never truly about racial equality. Rather it was a giant smokescreen for communism.
@Calenderagressive Last time I checked, BLM burned down half the Country screwing over their own type while having "Fiery Mostly Peaceful Protests." Last time I checked all Trump Rallies are peaceful, except for the time (Jan. 6th) where people with broom handles broke a few windows and were allowed in via the Capitol police and magnetized doors, whilst a black cop killed an innocent unarmed white woman (Ashli Babbitt), who nonetheless was an Air Force Veteran.
@Calenderagressive Oh, by the way. People being armed at Trump Rallies? Nope. I guarantee all guns were locked up in a safe in their vehicles. You seriously think the Secret Service will allow guns at a 20,000 seat arena? Just so some Trump Derangement Syndrome afflicted Libtard can murder him? I think not.
@Calenderagressive First off, I doubt that you or your source has that data, and also, it is not a relevant point. Posession of a weapon is not violence. It's even an indication of low violence. Many crimes are stopped by brandishing a weapon, so it's a deterrant.
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I've always thought that any "lives matter" messaging as being arrogance. The reality is that no lives truly matter by those who do have power. POC believe that just because it might be white people who are predominantly in positions of power and authority, that they are going to care about and protect every other white person.
Those people who created the system do not care about lower class white people just like they do not care about lower class black people. They only care about the people who can benefit them, which certainly isn't 99% of the entire population. We are all disposable because of how many of us there are. White people as a whole might benefit from said system better, but they'd still be sacrificed nonetheless. So, none of our lives matter in the hands of those who actively try to control all of us.
But I digress, when you have white people constantly being demonized for their skin color, where this is conveniently not a form of racism or at least prejudice, it was only a matter of time before merchandise like this went viral. This is just cause-and-effect of a larger problem that people continue to play into. Because while the black populace realized that their lives didn't matter and came together to push the messaging, it started to make other people also realize that, hey, perhaps their individual lives do not matter as well. We all need to come to that understanding if we are to make any actual changes.
The 99% could overthrow the 1% quite easily unless everybody is kept distracted from focusing on the real issues. Racism is not nearly as common or violent as classism.
Weird how Kanye West endorsed this. But again that is Kanye West.
I never supported BLM because I do NOT think racial peace was ever their true goal. Rather they took advantage of a few isolated (yet wrong) racially charged incidents as a giant smokescreen for a communist agenda. This is why so many woke white socialist morons got behind it two years ago. They are trying to equate racism with capitalism which mental gymnastic bullshit.
The co-founder Patrisse Culors explicitly identified as a neo Marxist back in 2015.
Anyway I would never get behind a “white lives matter movement” or any movement. I guess “ALL lived matter” makes the most sense. But that should be commons sense.
However there were several recorded incidents of innocent unarmed white people being murdered by police in the last few years that went completely unnoticed by BLM and the general public. For example how many people know the name Tony Timpa? He was murdered the exact same way as George Floyd. But the officers were completely let off and there was never a protest about what happened to him. Did his life not matter?
Unless it's the Black Speech of Mordor, words are, by definition, not violence. Words are just words. The cure for bad words isn't censorship, it's GOOD words. Challenge the ideas and SHOW why they're wrong. Calling it "violence" is saying that black people are so damn fragile that being reminded that OTHER people are also human is the moral equivalent of physically hurting them, which is as racist a sentiment as you're ever likely to encounter.
That said, a pair of conservative black people wantonly demonstrating the hypocritcal bigotry behind the movement is hardly inappropriate, given the backlash they get for being "conservative while black". It is, however, blatant provocateurship; pure political trolling. Simultaneously clever AND annoying.
Whites was not burning and robbing shops for the sake of those words, so it's not violent.
not to me, but to some it will be because it affronts their feelings of abuse.
having a conversation on shirts probably isn't going to go well.
When is the CLM "Chinese lives matter" shirt coming out, those people are being murdered in NYC and San Fran on a frequent basis by BLM, or their emotionally distraught representatives.
Luckily... JLM (Jewish Lives Matter) or OLM (Omish Lives Matter) is not possible, they won't wear these shirts...
It's just a shirt to me and holds only as much power as people choose to give it. If someone uses that shirt as justification for a violent act, it's just a shirt and ultimately the one that engaged into a violent act is wrong for doing so. No matter how the justify it. Also inanimate objects such as shirts or flags only have as much power over us as we choose to give them. So consider that before you react to them.
$2,000,000,000 property damage and dozens of deaths. BLM is violent, not WLM. Even if WLM was violent it makes no difference to Western society because we're supporting white ethno Nationalists in the Ukraine, haha. Plus, the US (and it's Western buddies) refused to "condemn the promotion of Nazi ideology" at last year's UN Assembly resolution vote.
Let’s just get away from ALL and ANY organization that uses racial grievances as part of its ideology.
I highly doubt WLM will ever take off. Even if it did I would never be a part of it. The same way I was never part of BLM.
@RangerBlue22 Well said. It doesn't seem like a movement on its own right, nor would I support it. I think it's intended purpose is simply to deligitimize the BLM scam.
Candice Owens is coming out with a full documentary exposing all this bs. Yes she is self identified conservative activist/commentator. But still someone needs to call out this bullshit. Given she’s an African American women she’s can call a spade a spade and not get labeled a racist.
Funny how two years ago I was calling out BLM because I knew it was a huge smokescreen bs that was being used for selfish political/economic purposes. People on here were “who are you? Identify yourself! They wanted to lynch me.” But i saw through all this bs from day one.
I got Quite a Few Shirts
I've got a Shirt that Says RedNeck Lives matter. It's just a Shirt and if someone has got a Problem with it
I'll just beat the person with a Stick.
Yes. Very violent. Just like the "it's ok to be white" slogan.
No, but it feeds into the division that empowers and enriches the powers that be. The people screwing everyone over would be f-ed if the people who are stuck on race got past it and realized who the real enemy is.
Omg, thank the lord you said that. I wish there were more intelligent men like you on here.
'Violence: behaviour involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something'
no shirt can be violent but it can cause violence
Who would you say is at fault in the situation? The one wearing the shirt? Or the one causing violence to the one wearing the shirt? Do you believe the one wearing the shirt is being provocative? Trying to get someone to be violent towards them? Because if yes, the same can be said about women wearing provocative clothing and not expect to be cat called, hit on, and in the most worst case, raped.
The person at fault is the one that inflicted racist (anti-black) violence on a person/people. If the violence were never inflicted, people would not develop ideas to create a 'movement,' have BLM in their bio, have BLM clothing, and so on. Yes, these BLM clothing can spark violence against them because some people are strongly against supporting the rights of Black people and/or advocating for BLM.
However, violence created as the result of BLM advocating is only possible through racist acts against black people. The violent discriminators are at fault. No, I do not believe the one wearing the shirt always intends to cause a great reaction, but if they do, they wouldn't be surprised because many oppose the movement. That is not true. I do not believe someone would publicly wear clothes that would endanger them. People have errands to run; people have lives, so why would they want to ruin their day intentionally with violence? Give me one good statistic and reason as to why you may believe if you do that BLM tees are worn to inflict violence on themselves. Women's clothing is similar, women would not be surprised if they get a reaction, but they would be surprised if they are harmed. All humans don't want to be harmed intentionally. Why would they want to be? Humans know that the clothes they wear may or may not draw attention, but it is expected that no matter what one wears that they are respected because it is their body, their clothes, their choice, their life.
Yep.
Apartheid, slavery, lynching's, racism, police brutality, orientalism, colonialism, imperialism, social inequality, exploitation... "White lives" have nothing to answer for, have they?
None of that shit exists in this Country. It did at one time. Everyone has been enslaved at one point or another, no matter race, ethnicity, etc. There's more slaves now in the world then their ever has been. White people just didn't show up in Africa and lure them into boats because they offered a cheese sandwich, they got into boats because they were sold. Sold by who? Africans. They enslaved each other too. You've got to move the fuck on.
Leftists are control freaks that can't stand anyone not yelling their talking points loudly.
HUH? THAT'S YOU LOL
@Calenderagressive: Maybe in your alternate universe
Okay...
Who is Karefa-Johnson? Why is a person I have never heard of important? And no, I don't consider a shirt to be violent unless it calls for violence.
The idea that a T shirt is violent is so self-evidently absurd that only someone who was intellectually deficient could believe that.
Writing on an inanimate object is not 'violence', by the definition of violence.
No the only groups that spread violence is blm gangs, antifa, and most of all the evil demonic rats
This question made me lose IQ. How is wearing a shirt that says a certain group of people's lives matters in anyway violent? Do the shirts have minds of their own and go beating up other people?
No. Not violent or racist. But just as dumb and pointless as saying "Black Lives Matter."
Wonder how far these two can rise on the Right before it becomes a problem for their supporters that they are black.
it's only the leftists that have problems with black conservatives.
Wait, you mean the rumor that he was born in Kenya started by Hillary Clinton? Nah, I didn't listen to that one. I was more concerned with him fucking up the country.. which he did a hell of a job at.
Was it the right calling Clarence Thomas a field n**?
It is a shirt, a piece of fabric cannot be violent.
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