I saw this video about the subject of French colonization and weather or not modern French people should apologize for it.
What is your opinion.
I wish the ignoramuses that make such videos - and the twits that watch them - would educate themselves above high school education. That's if they passed high school.
Only a complete moron with limited education & low intelligence who wears a blindfold & earplugs, who doesn't watch world news & remains stupidly ignorant of reality, does not comprehend colonization is a world phenomenon NOT limited to Europeans.
For example
Native Americans attacked their brethren, stole their brethren's lands, enslaved their brethren... hell the Aztecs used to do human sacrifice to the gods with their victims.
Africans attacked their brethren, stole their brethren's lands, and enslaved their brethren... hell there were African tribes that sold their victims to European slavers. Slavey STILL EXISTS in parts of Africa by the way.
Arabs / Middle Easterners attacked their brethren, stole their brethren's lands, and enslaved their brethren... hell they still fucking do in some areas or do groups like ISIS & Al Qaeda only exist in fairy tales to you?
Indians & other Asiatics - from Japanese to Chinese & everyone in between - attacked their brethren, stole their brethren's lands, and enslaved their brethren... In Japan the Ainu are example were almost eradicated and in many areas are treated like slaves.
There is NO DIFFERENCE between Europeans & these other groups except the expansion level. It is HUMAN NATURE to COLONIZE YOUR ENEMIES.
No we should actually get them back and annex them for thé easy reasons that people from our old colonies want to live in our countries ( like therés tons and tons of Algerian coming every day in France for living here cause de give them money free house free healthcare free everything so if they like France so much we should just colonize them again’ developp their countries et then we will havé more money and could give them some in exchange of them stropping immigrating in France) it’s a win win situation.
Also colonisation was a great things because we developped third World countries nothing to apologies about. They should be thé one appologizing for all thé criminel they send us by boat and refuse to take them back.
Thé greatest example is actually thé island of Comores and Mayotte, Mayotte decided to stay French and became a French departement Comores prefered to be indépendant but it been more than 30 years that thousand of Comorian immigrate towards Mayotte and become French because thé living standard in Mayotte is much much higher than in Comore.
Like in French Guyane is it thé most developped and safe countries of south America do remaining with France actually benifitted them in all aspect.
If indochina and Our African colony stayed with France they would ne much more developped with higher standard of life also those countries want to be free and indépendant it thé first Step to take would be to actually stop asking their ancient « master » to give them money …but they don’t stop cause they know if we stop giving them money they would just collapse. They should Thank us for giving them si much money and for sending our doctor for free to them
From what I know French and British colonization was a net positive for those regions.
I did hear about Comoros voting to stay even though they complain about France.
Have you ever watched that YouTube channel I linked. I found it useful to understand the political situation in France, you might find it interesting.
https://youtu.be/ssD4XQRzhBE
Okay I sent it.
Maybe she is trying to seem more moderate.
I will withhold judgment.
That would be ridiculous. How the fuck is it fair for me to benefit from being given things from people who never hurt me themselves? I'm Native American, so if I were to actually get reparations for all the shit my ancestors went through, I'd be a billionaire. But none of those people who were hurt or did the hurting are alive... It's irrelevent. Why would I take money or land from millionaires of other people my age and make them suffer for the actions of their ancestors? Hell, plenty of my own ancestors might have hurt some of my other ancestors for all we know! We need to grow up and let the past be the past. Are we going to make all the people who are Homo sapiens sapiens with 0 Neanderthal DNA give reparations to all the people with 3% Neanderthal DNA since Homo sapiens likely caused their extinction? For crying out loud, our world is filled with morons.
excuse me? Thats not our mistake, we did not colonize, those people are long gone. Besides, actually Europe is at this time hugely taken advantage off by those poor countries, we have to help every one, give countless charities, get overrun by refugees, foreign drug cartels and culture etc. Thank our European politicians who want to shine as samaritans by saving everyone now. You can try and walk into buckingham palace and demand to give back all the precious jewellry they got from their conquerred countries.
Its way too easy and lazy to blame every problem to white Europe. Why are those 3rd world country full of corruption, war lords and clans battling each other intead of doing something productive. Helping too much makes them lazy like a spoiled child and they think its normal they get every thing from us.
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No, nobody Alive today is responsible for the past. Its modern day begging.
See those screaming about repartians and slavery are the same kind of fools that wear clothes and trainers made by kids in China and Taiwan.. We all buy them, we buy them because we don't care were they come from or who by just like ancestors didn't care either. Another fact, invaders come to your country in a few boats do you mean to tell us all that they managed to take on a full country of people? Hmmmm nah didn't happen, they were helped from within. Just
Like the witch burning land grabbing over in African continents.
So no nobody gets a diddly squat
Nope, they are now free countries to make their own choices, they have every right to do that. Let them make themselves better.
It makes no sense to tax people who were not around when it was going on to simply give me that will likely be squander anyways and then they'll always want more blaming the Nations for their badly run country, no matter how much money they get.
They can get capitalistic reparations though, get a product that other countries want to buy and then export it. They can make a killing that way and we can call it reparations.
I think humanity would move forward of everyone would let the past be just that, the past. Because continuing to bring up the past and attempting to make it a current issue does nothing but cause us to fight and spin on wheels. We have been doing both for many generations now and yet many people are convinced that continuing to do so will somehow stop us from doing both.
Imagine the American Revolution failed and Britain massacred like 60,000 colonist rebels. That happened in a lot of former colonies when the people wanted to rule themselves.
And Britain has paid for incidents like Jallianwala Bagh massacre. Germany’s brief colonial period had them pay the Herrero Tribe for massacring 60,000 when they wanted to rule themselves.
Do they owe more reparations, it’s being argued and debated. I think in some way all first world countries could give back to the third world massively if only just to increase life expectancy and feed hungry children.
As someone who is from a country that was colonized, I must say that I'm not expecting reparations, but I do think they should apologize. At least recognize that their ancestors made a lot of mistakes.
They can't undo what their antecessors did but at least they should admit that not everything was pretty and decent.
I think we should gift them reparations in the form of our politicians, lobbyists, and political activists, including attorneys and bureaucrats.
No, as it happened a lot time ago, and third world countries just want free stuff.
Dumbest shit I've ever heard. Reparations make no sense.
They already gave them their "reparations" - they gave them independence.
are they also going to take away all the benefits and perks they brought up to said regions?
@menina well, most of our current culture and heritage is a mix of other cultures from Africa, Europe, other parts of America and Asia as well
and we are what we are today, because of that mix of cultures... it is a big part of our identity, today
if we were to give up our current identity to adopt the former past and native identity then it should be complete nor selective
I'm sorry but I strongly disagree with you. I don't see it as a mix of culture and heritage, I see it as steal and destruction of native cultures. Many problems that former "colonies" are facing today were caused by colonization.
Africa, Asia and America would be in a better place now if it wasn't for colonization.
@menina yes, I know that many would disagree but, particularly America... was already in the path of colonization and slavery of itself, American natives conquered other American natives, enslaved them and colonized them just as the European did
Europeans just did it way faster and from abroad
also Europeans did not completely destroyed all original peoples, only decimated them and once they left and ever since... we are the ones that put down our own people, not the Europeans, now it is on us... not on them
I still disagree with you and I'm pretty shocked to see that that's how you think. It seems that you're saying that European "colonizers" were all saints.
"we are the ones that put down our own people, not the Europeans, now it is on us... not on them"- You can speak for yourself. I'll never put my country or my people down. And I do recognize all the s**t that the Europeans did to my country and to my continent.
@menina no, I never claimed for Europeans to be all saints
and I never denied all the wrong they've done
what I say is that I am here today and see it today, and all the wrong we have done and still do to ourselves, because were are not saints either and we are not free of wrong
and it would be hypocritical if we started to claim reparations for the same crimes we commit still, today... against those who have always had it this bad
and when I tell you that I see it and I live it, is because I have spent months in the mountains working with them, trying to make a difference... does not matter how little... I've dedicated part of my life TO REPAIR THE DAMAGE that we, us, modern Americans... do commit against our own native people, today
Nah, white guilt is a woke US/UK problem, not European in general.
No, what's in the past is in the past. Let's not change history and just move forward.
They have.
Far more than the USA ever will.
Should current citizens apologize for and pay reparations for what people who are mostly now dead did?
Nope. All the stuff they're whingeing about happened hundreds of years ago. No-one alive today played any part in it. They need to grow up and stop begging.
Simples...
They should have gave reparations right after they did it or better yet they shouldn’t have done it in the first place, they aren’t going to give reparations because they don’t care
Or apologize
Apologize for giving them infrastructure, industry and modernizing their culture? Fuck no
Nope. Most current citizens weren't even born yet when most of the colonies were freed.
Why would my country apologise? We didn't have colonies.
Reparations for what? Preventing them from eating one another?
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