If Joe decides not to run in 2024, do you think Hunter would be good enough to fill his shoes?

[SpringValley]

[abc3643]

First, President Biden likely will run in 2024.
Second, Hunter Biden has no experience in elective office (unlike his late brother Beau who died in 2015).
Third, Hunter Biden would not want to be President; he has a very successful career in finance.
Fourth, even if he did want to run for President, Hunter Biden has too much baggage to mount a successful run and he knows it.

[SpringValley]

None of what you said makes sense. Since when do you need experience an elective office to run? How much experience did Trump have? Did Trump already have a successful career when he ran?

[abc3643]

Well, technically, you are correct... you DON'T need elective public office experience to win elective public office, but, then again, that's only logical because EVERYONE has to win their first elective public office.

But, generally, running for President without previously having had elective public office credentials is rare.
In fact, off the top of my head, I can think of only 6 cases (but there may be more) before Trump:
1. George Washington who was a famous general for having won the Revolutionary War and he was part of the Constitutional Convention.
2. Zachary Taylor who was a famous general for having won the Mexican-American War.
3. Ulysses S. Grant who was a famous general for having won the Civil War.
4. Dwight D. Eisenhower who was a famous general for having won WW 2 in Europe.

In these cases, the men did not hold elective office, but had the equivalent (if not better) experience of being leaders during wartime.

5. and 6. I do not believe that Chester A. Arthur nor William Howard Taft won elective office before being elected Vice-President to James Garfield and Teddy Roosevelt respectively although they did hold Federal offices such as Taft being the Secretary of War, which is an appointed position.

Unlike the previous 43 men who had been President, Trump was the only president that had neither prior government nor military experience before becoming president. His leadership qualifications come from business. Trump may a business "leader" - that's debatable and maybe not so much in the business world to many in that world - but in the world of public perception, his business leadership is partly what got him elected in 2016.

Hunter Biden doesn't have similar credentials. While he is doing OK in the world of finance and does have some political background because of his growing up in a political family, being President is not "all that" and his life is better served for him to remain outside of public office and he knows this.

[SpringValley]

Don't forget! Ronald Reagan.

[abc3643]

Ronald Reagan was the Governor of California before he was President.

[abc3643]

(He had also been President of the Screen Actors Guild - a union! - that is also an elected position albeit it is not public office.)

[SpringValley]

No one was in politics before they were in politics. So don't use that as an excuse.

[abc3643]

What? You are not making sense.

My point is that all previous Presidents before Trump either had experience in elected public office or were in the military.

Like Trump, Hunter Biden also never held elected public office, although he was in the military, but discharged for drug abuse. He won't ever run for President.

[Sixgunsound]

Hunter has a successful career turning his father's name into cash payments for access. Once that product dries up all he will have left is his art career🤣

[Sixgunsound]

It's almost like Trump having worked outside of government his whole prior life gave him better insight into the lives and concerns of average Americans than career officers or career bureaucrats could ever dream of obtaining.

[abc3643]

@Sixgunsound Not really - in fact, not at all.
Donald Trump was born on third base and thought he hit a triple.
He didn't make his money - his FATHER, Fred Trump, Sr., did. Donald Trump never had to interview for a job even once in his life because he worked for his father.

In defense of President Trump, quite a few Presidents came from better-than-average circumstances.

Just off the top of my head, for Presidents since FDR:
FDR came from old NY money.
Truman came from a humble background in Missouri.
Eisenhower came from a humble background in Kansas.
Kennedy came from money in Massachusetts.
LBJ came from a humble background in Texas.
Nixon came from a humble background in California.
Ford's stepfather worked in his family's business but later became a politician in Michigan.
Carter came from a humble background in Georgia.
Reagan came from a humble background in Illinois.
Both Bushes came from money.
Clinton came from a humble background in Arkansas.
Obama came from a humble background in several places.
Trump was born wealthy in New York.

[SpringValley]

@Sixgunsound
Biden even said that in front of the whole world. Remember when he got the Ukrainian prosecutor fired, because he was investigating Hunter's shady deals. lol.

And who buys Hunter's paintings, other than China?

[Sixgunsound]

I'm not sure how you got to Clinton or Obama not being independently wealthy.

[Sixgunsound]

Well, since they each come wrapped around a key to his dad's office door, lots of people will so long as that matters.

[abc3643]

@Sixgunsound They didn't start out that way. That's the point of my list. I gave the upbringing of those Presidents since FDR.

[abc3643]

About this:
"Hunter has a successful career turning his father's name into cash payments for access. Once that product dries up all he will have left is his art career"

Well, yes, this sort of thing happens with all well-connected families, regardless of party.
In a sense, yes, Hunter is like Donald Trump - he got a good start because of his family. But, like Trump, Hunter will be OK financially and, like Trump, may get into some trouble legally.

[Sixgunsound]

I wish you the best of luck with that TDS, your case looks terminal. All the time you spend thinking about how to work him into every reply, and the time he spends rent free in your head which that implies, must have your blood pressure at really unsafe levels. I hope you find a way to make peace with the fact that Hillary lost and that Trump did more for the American people handicapped by everything the political class could could throw at him than Bumbling Biden could have even if he was playing with a full deck. Good luck and good day.

[abc3643]

@Sixgunsound Well, I don't have TDS because

1) I actually considered voting for Trump if he would have ran years ago, but his looniness during the Obama years with the birther shit made me realize something was wrong - either he changed or he's letting his darker nature show. Either way, to me, that was a major personality defect and he fell off my radar.

2) Like Trump, I am a native NYer. I have been aware of his bullshit since you were still swimming in your father's testicles. He's been on the radar of every NYer since 1973 when the Federal Government filed a case against him, his father, and their corporation for violating the 1968 Fair Housing Act; basically, what they were doing was being racist in who they'd rent out apartments to. I won't say Donald Trump is a racist - I suspect his father was considerably worse. Luckily for the Trumps, this was settled out of court. The Hill, a bipartisan source for news about the Federal Government, has a good historical article.
TITLE: FBI releases documents related to Trump apartment discrimination case
BY MEGAN R. WILSON - 02/15/17 7:02 PM ET
thehill.com/.../

Here are the FBI's documents:
https://vault.fbi.gov/trump-management-company

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So, no, I don't have TDS although I would never vote for him. My "TDS" is borne from 50 years of experience with him. The real TDS is that held by his ignorant acolytes.

[abc3643]

Anyway, back to the question posed by @SpringValley...

Q: "If Joe decides not to run in 2024, do you think Hunter would be good enough to fill his shoes?"

A:
1) I expect President Biden to re-run.
2) No, Hunter is not good enough.
3) Hunter is smart enough not to run; it is in no one's best interests that he do so.

[SpringValley]

99.9% of all of the people on this site are incapable of answering hypothetical questions.

[abc3643]

I specifically answered your hypothetical question with Point 2 "No, Hunter is not good enough."
However, Points 1 and 3 give you a dose of reality that your hypothetical scenario for this question will not occur with the bottom line being that Hunter will not run for President in 2024.

[SpringValley]

A guy wants join this site and then asked a hypothetical question. After about 2 hours he announced he was deleting his account. That's because everybody and their dog was giving him that "dose of reality that he wasn't asking for.

His question was simple:
" If you had the ability to fly, would you want to do it via wings, like a bird, or telekinetically like Superman?"

Half of the responders explained to him that Batman is a fictitional character.
The others half scientifically explained that humans can't fly.

[abc3643]

LOL
Well, frankly, I am glad he is gone.
That was a stupid immature question to ask.
At least your hypothetical wasn't.

[FunkyMonkee]

You MUST be joking!!! I'd sooner vote for the bunny in the front yard!!

[SpringValley]

I just wanted to see how many excuses the left would make for Hunter. Joe said that Hunter is the smartest person he knows, so I don't see why they're making excuses for Hunter.

[FunkyMonkee]

I can dig it!

[Sixgunsound]

The thing is if you look at who he surrounds himself with, Hunter might actually be the winner. He doesn't have built in immunity from prosecution like elected officials do yet somehow he still does all the things he is tiktok famous for.

[dustybiker]

Democrats will pick someone they would be wanting to vote for. As much as you are reaching for.. whatever you are reaching for.

[SpringValley]

I think you replied to the wrong question. Lol

[exitseven]

Hunter is going to be found in a motel room with the spike still sticking out of his arm long before that.

[SpringValley]

I know that Hunter can't and won't run, and neither will Joe. If Joe tries to run, the pack of Hyenas like Hillary will rip him to shreds.

My question was literally if Hunter would be able to campaign from the Delaware basement, and just choose not to debate the Republican challenger. And if he wins the presidency, (which I think he can)

He just has to attempt to read a teleprompter, and read the cue cards for the answers made for him by staff, about questions asked by reporters?

[exitseven]

I think he knows too much and will die of an "accidental" overdose.

[SpringValley]

I think you're right. January ain't far away. I also think Biden will step down from an illness. It's either that or be impeached a time or two.

[NamerOfStars]

More political dynastisization is the LAST thing this country needs. After "more violence" and "bigger drug problems".

[SpringValley]

So you wouldn't vote for hunter?

[NamerOfStars]

Only if he was running against his father. To be fair, I don't know much about the guy, and it's not really fair of me to judge him by that standard.

[AngryCarl]

Is Hunter Biden a politician? Why are we even talking about Hunter Biden?

[SpringValley]

I don't know, why are you talking about it? Did somebody put a gun to your head?
How much political experience did Reagan have? How much political experience did Trump have?

[Sixgunsound]

Reagan was an actor, he had a lot of political experience😂

[FunkyMonkee]

Reagan was a politician for a couple decades before he won!

[dustybiker]

She’s trolling.

[Cubus]

Reagan was a governor of California before being a president.

[FunkyMonkee]

@Cubus He was in politics back in the `50's.

[Sixgunsound]

We are talking about hunter because he provided evidence of his father's crimes. We are also talking about Hunter for the same reason the MSM wouldn't shut up about the Bush daughters.

[AviatorTom]

Nope!