Can you love your country and hate your government?

[OddBeMe]

Seems illogical. I can see disagreeing, maybe “hating” a politician. But you hate the govt you hate America. Which is fine. Just be honest about it.

Yes

No

Other

[DJB72]

Of course you can. A lot of Germans loved Germany but hated the Nazis. Many became spies for the Allies and were executed for treason as a result.

I love England but I can't think of an English government I've loved in my lifetime. I live in South Africa and I love the country but the ANC is more corrupt than the Republican Party

Didn't one of the early presidents say something about a tree of patriotism needing to be fed with it's people's blood periodically?

The problem these days is the elders have been usurped by children who are painfully naïve about how life really works. Especially in Westernised nations. The result is the self-righteous "woke" bullshit that requires you to walk round in a coma while you try to work out if you're a boy or a girl.

The only positive thing about this bullshit is they award themselves Darwin Awards by taking their fucked up genes out of the breeding pool.

[OddBeMe]

That’s a good point. Their country literally turned into a fascist state democratically.

[DJB72]

Like boiling frogs. The majority didn't realise until they could look back on it.

[msc545]

Yes, it is possible to love your country and hate your government. It is possible to be proud of your country's culture, history, and people, while also being critical of the actions or policies of the government. It is important to recognize that the government and the country are separate entities, and it is possible to have mixed feelings about them.

It is also important to remember that it is okay to criticize the government and to work toward positive change. In a democracy, citizens have the right to express their opinions and to work towards creating a government that better serves their needs and values. It is possible to love your country and still want to see it improve and evolve.

[OddBeMe]

Yes, I said above you can hate in the US and still be a good citizen. But I guess I don’t see the country and government as separate. The politicians come and go. And we can like/dislike any of them. As we do.

[virtue2332]

I served my Country and major reason was because I believe in freedom and the right to express opinions. Does that mean I agree with all the decisions the government makes, no. I unfortunately feel like we have to take some responsibility and ownership when it comes to the issues we face in America. People have gotten lazy and don't put in the effort to to look at the facts when it comes to decision time. They see one commercial hear one add on the radio that is meant to emotionally charge them up and that's it mind made up won't hear anything else. Not even considering their Data has been sold and now they are being targeted based on that data with something that is designed to have a higher chance of influencing them based on emotion vs logic. We have to do our part and find ways to collect facts quickly and verify them. we have to stop rewarding bad behavior, stop allowing all the negative to infiltrate and divide us. Its time to evolve and and use our brains to come up with better solutions

[OddBeMe]

Yeah. And that means caring about your country/govt. That’s how we make good decisions about who we put in charge of it.

[trina_x]

the land, the history, the language, the culture, the people - none of that is the people who have just so happened to end up ruling the country, that is what makes the country and they shouldn't be judged together

[OddBeMe]

True, but are the current rulers “the govt?” They just inhabiting it for awhile.

[trina_x]

they're only temporary unlike the things that really make a country

[OddBeMe]

Agreed

[DeeDeeDeVour]

"Hate" is a very strong word.

I detest the current administration.

[OddBeMe]

Which is fine. Isn’t it cool that our govt/country allows that kind of passion?

[Stoner710]

I had all governments. So by that logic I don’t love any country.

both parties are equally trash in the United States. I wish the libertarian party were stronger because I think that would be the best party to support beyond the anarchist one which doesn’t exist. As far as the normal America people the fact I can say what the hell I want our government is probably the best in the world. But then again I hate all governments.

[NathanDavis]

I just don't hate anybody... that's a waste of soul

government, nation, people and land... those are all different things as well

[OddBeMe]

Ehh. Govt and nation…not sure it separate. I feel like that’s how revisionists get out of slavery reparations or the genocide of native Americans.

[NathanDavis]

no, none of these are separate... but they are not the same things

can't have one without the other

[WonderBell99]

I love my country, hate the stupid piece of shit government.

[OddBeMe]

The constitution?

[RealMarek]

Yes, of course. A country is much more than the government, especially when the elite that dominate the government holds much of the population in contempt.

[dustybiker]

People hate admitting things like this. It makes them feel dirty.

[OddBeMe]

I like dirty.

[dustybiker]

I know.

[exitseven]

Yes. I love America but view the government as the enemy.

[OddBeMe]

Any govt like even Trump?

[exitseven]

no, when Trump was president it was the only time in my life I felt like I had representation in Washington

[OddBeMe]

What did he do? Blame illegals immigrants and give tax cuts to the rich.

[exitseven]

Make this country safe for it;s citizens., and bring prosperity. And I got a pretty good tax cut and I am not rich. The middle class got a greater share of the cut and I am sure they all miss it.

[Kaneki05]

People who are tribal over a piece of crust on earth are dumb as hell that's all I know.

[LiamJHayden]

Yes. You can also love your system of government and yet despise the people currently and/or previously running it.

[OddBeMe]

There we go, absolutely agreed. I hear “I hate the govt” and I’m like.. the constitution?

[CateM]

Yes, I'm proud to be American but am dissatisfied with the government and SCOTUS rn

[tfan1]

I love my country - I hate the evil demon rats running it!

[OddBeMe]

That’s fine. I just hear people say they hate the govt and I’m like the constitution?

[Jerre]

Yes, I love the USA, but hate the current Biden administration.

[OddBeMe]

Which is cool. But the difference is Biden Admin isn’t the government, it’s just the group of politicians elected to that office.

When I see people say they hate the government I’m sure this is what they mean. But our govt is the constitution and all the laws in force.

[TheAfrikan]

That is what I hv in heart. So it is possible because I hate ma Fukien government

[DaisyM23]

You can love your country and still be critical

[OddBeMe]

Of course. But I guess I read people hating their govt and I’m like, the constitution?

[Andres77]

Those are the exact words I use.

[OddBeMe]

But are they correct?

[Andres77]

Of course!

[OddBeMe]

So you hate the constitution? Cuz that’s the govt. The politicians are voted in for short periods.

[Andres77]

Stfu, newby.
The constitution is of and for the people. The government has been trying to dismantle the constitution for decades.

[OddBeMe]

Tell me, how do you dismantle the constitution, “newby”

[AsaKyo]

I don't really like either one

[xJayleenx]

Yes you can