Who was more responsible for January 6th, Trump or Trump supporters?

[Anonymous]

Who was more responsible for this deadly day?

Trump

Trump supporters

Both

The tooth fairy

[WhiteSteve]

I’d say ultimately Trump, since he knowingly lied to his supporters about the election being stolen when there’s just simply no compelling evidence of widespread fraud (unless you believe 2,000 Mules…. LOL). These folks were told they voted and had their votes not counted, or cancelled out by alleged fraudulent ballots. I’m not really sure what Trump thought he would accomplish, whether he actually thought he could retain the presidency, or if it was about saving face by leaving a hint of foul play and at least being able to say “look how much my people love me.” I think his narcissism is a driving force behind a lot of this. And he did tweet and invite everyone to show up that day. I think this is just his move, gather people, say your intent is innocent, but get them riled up yet let them make their own decisions, and then Trump would hope to be able to say he didn’t EXPLICITLY give any marching orders, so he’d figure his ass was covered.

[goaded]

He wanted to disrupt the count so that the presidency would be decided by a Republican majority in the House. Pence didn't play along and lie about the states' results being legally contested, so he had to send an armed mob, and possibly even attempt to kidnap Pence (at least Pence seemed to think so).

[WhiteSteve]

@goaded oh that’s right, he was trying to work some obscure provision in the rule book. This fuckin’ guy, man😂 Sometimes I like to reassure myself and say “welp…definitely can’t get any more absurd than this”, but I think I know better, so I’m just gonna buckle up, this could be a bumpy ride going forward

[goaded]

You've not been paying attention to the farce in the House, then?

[WhiteSteve]

@goaded It’s entirely likely that I won’t spend the latter half of my life in America, so I’m just kind of emotionally divorcing myself from it all😂 It’s not even the politics, it’s that our people willingly elect these people and think they have good and decent ideas, and that just tells me we have a low-quality, low-character population when it comes down to it. Long after Trump is dead, they’ll still be here. So it’s probably best to search for a greener pasture, and in the meantime just stay generally aware but not let myself get too invested, there’s just no personal upside in that, haha

[goaded]

Where are you going? Just out of interest.

[WhiteSteve]

@goaded Need to research that a little more and travel. Part of me is afraid I’m just going to learn that humans are disgusting no matter where you go, in which case, maybe it’ll just be time to call it a good run, find the roof of the nearest tall building, and take the fast way down, lmao. Hoping I can make an easy, English-speaking move to Canada, but sometimes I wonder if they don’t have the same human character issues I’m trying to escape from Americans.

[goaded]

Of course they do, but they don't let them run the country. (You might like to avoid the UK for a while.)

[Snakeyes7]

Can't say for sure whether or not Trump started January 6th because the committee loves to drag their feet on proving anything. All his supporters want is for the government/big tech etc to not be breathing down their necks constantly.

The only political unrest that Trump caused is when he said something dumb online (or not and the corporate media made it out to be dumb or just lied about what he said) and that only really led to a bunch of political discussions online.

The whole BLM crap in 2020 didn't even start because of Trump. BLM started even before Trump became president and they have been "firey but peaceful" since its inception.

[goaded]

Did you watch the hearings? You can't have, otherwise you couldn't say that.

[Snakeyes7]

All I remember is some weird story about Trump and a limo or something.

[sage2021]

When push cones to shove, actually the Democrats are responsible because they cheated in the 2020 Presidential election and Biden became president. If they hadn't cheated and stolen the election from Trump, Jan. 6 would have never happened.
What's the big deal about that day anyway? One person was accidentally killed, which was the worst that happened. Some file folders got messed up. Some offices got messy. But other than that, what us the big deal?
The way Biden handled the exit from Afghanistan where 13 military personnel were needlessly killed and leaving American's in Afghanistan forever, NOW THAT WAS BIDEN'S RESPONSIBILITY! YET NO ONE EVER TALKS ABOUT IT.
Which was worse - Jan 6 or exiting Afghanistan?
Calm down about Jan 6! That doesn't even compare to all of the hell Biden has put so many people through. But, again, if no one talks about it, they can pretend nothing bad is really happening.

[Sasahara]

You can't expect people to talk about things that makes the Left look bad when the Left controls most of media and social media platforms.

[goaded]

Oh, so you still believe Trump's lies.

[sage2021]

@goaded I base how I feel about Trump by all of the good things he did for America 🇺🇸 while he was in office. Nothing or no one, not even you can ignore the great things he did for America! The proof us documented forever and nothing can change it.

I see in other posts where you are quite argumentative with other user's here, so basically you just like to stir people up with your words. We got your number!

[goaded]

Isn't it "the Left" that are supposed to go by feelings, not facts?

He lost the election in 2020. He knew it. He lied to you about it. He hatched a plan to stay in office, even though he knew it was illegal. He sent an armed mob to the attack the Capitol as part of that plan. And he didn't even make the trains run on time.

[tfan1]

@Sasahara 👍🙂

[tfan1]

👍🙂

[SmokinAces2000]

There is no sufficient evidence that the 2020 election was stolen so therefore there is no justification for storming a government building, if I believed that the president killed my whole family does that give me the right to get a mob of thousands of people and storm the White House?

[sage2021]

@goaded No, Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human.

[goaded]

@sage2021 Have you ever heard the term "dehumanising"?

"Dehumanization is the denial of full humanness in others and the cruelty and suffering that accompanies it. A practical definition refers to it as the viewing and treatment of other persons as though they lack the mental capacities that are commonly attributed to human beings. In this definition, every act or thought that regards a person as "less than" human is dehumanization.

Dehumanization is one technique in incitement to genocide. It has also been used to justify war, judicial and extrajudicial killing, slavery, abortion, the confiscation of property, denial of suffrage and other rights, and to attack enemies or political opponents."

That's what you're doing, right there.

[sage2021]

@goaded you are taking what I said out of context and applying your own personal definition to what you believe I am saying. So, you are wrong to falsly accuse me of anything other than having my own opinion.

[goaded]

You literally said "Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human."

[Sasahara]

@goaded so you dehumanized people when you called them animals here too?
Are you animals going to suggest that attacking an 82 year old man with a hammer is political speech, too? ↗ notice the "you animals" part at the beginning of your question.

[goaded]

@Sasahara I did. I'm not proud of it, but an 82 year old man had just been violently attacked based on a pack of lies. My update was:

"Just to be clear, I condemn all political violence. However, in my opinion political violence based on falsehoods is worse than when it's based on genuine grievences. The real guilty parties are the ones who told them the lies, but they get off scott-free."

[goaded]

By the way, there were three votes for "He deserved it for being married to the Speaker of the House", and eight for "It's a false flag operation, just like Sandy Hook".

[Sasahara]

@goaded The content of your poll is irrelevant here, I was just pointing out that you yourself have dehumanized people too. Right at the beginning of your question.

[goaded]

@Sasahara That's true, I admitted it. Question: who was I dehumanising in that situation?

[Sasahara]

@goaded Your answerers. Otherwise you wouldn't need to have added that part to your question

[goaded]

@Sasahara Only the ones who think politicians lying and demonising people is a good thing. The ones who blamed Nancy Pelosi for all that is wrong in people's lives, or suggest that Democrats are paedophiles and groomers or, ahem, "might not even be human".

[Sasahara]

@goaded Again, my entire point was that you dehumanized people. Like you said she did here.
And so you don't have to say it again, I saw that you admited it, and that you are not proud of it.
My last replie was just to answer your question.

[goaded]

@Sasahara Frankly, your "Like you said she did here." is gaslighting. The specific phrase was that Democrats "might not even be human". How in the world can that not be dehumanising?

I also forgot to mention that the attacker was convinced of lies about covid and the 2020 election. People pushing those lies are a far smaller group than "Democrats". At least I hope they are.

[Sasahara]

@goaded I never said a word about if she did or did dehumanize anyone. I said you said she did, and you did say that. So how is it gaslighthing?
I simply pointed out that you yourself had done it too, as you said she did.

[goaded]

@Sasahara Again, you're implying that it's just my opinion that someone saying "Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human" is dehumanising. That's the gaslighting. Tell me, what is your interpretation of those words?

[Sasahara]

@goaded I'm not implying anything, I said you said it. You said and I quote "You literally said "Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human."" I'm not implying anything other than you said that. So I fail to see how I gaslighted you. And my interpretation of what she said has nothing to do with the fact you said that quote.

[goaded]

@Sasahara Ah, you're still trying it on. That's classic gaslighting.

I mean, you were dead certain my post from a couple of months ago was dehumanising. The first and only time in six years on here I could be accused of that. In it, I called people "animals" for labelling as "political speech" the lies about covid, the election, etc., when they'd predictably led to violence, in this case an innocent 82 year old man being attacked with a hammer and being in hospital suffering brain damage.

What's your problem deciding whether "Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human" is dehumanising?

Guess what, "Shootings in Albuquerque share target: elected Democrats" apnews.com/831e1d985a1795eea69ac6489f0698ed

Nothing to do with lies about Democrats, I'm sure.

[Sasahara]

How is me claiming you said something and then providing the quote where you said that gaslighting? I never said anything for or against if what she said was dehumanizing or not.

You said:
"You literally said "Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human.""
I mentioned you had dehumanized people yourself.
Somehow, me mentioning you said the first quote, to @sage2021 is gaslighthing?

I have no problem deciding if I think what she is dehumanizing or not. But I do have a problem finding out how me mentioning what you said to her somehow is gaslighting. You said she said that, its up here in the convo, me pointing that out is not gaslighting.

[goaded]

@Sasahara This gaslighting is going to go on for months, isn't it?

"I never said anything for or against if what she said was dehumanizing or not."
Precisely. Why not?

[Sasahara]

@goaded Why should I? My entire point is you had done what you said she had done. Not if she also had done it or not. I said you said she said, and somehow me saying you said she said is gaslighting because I have not said anything about what she said? As far as I know, I have not manipulated you, or put words in your mouth, or done anything similar to gaslighting.

[goaded]

@Sasahara Because you're pretending to be an impartial observer, but you're only being critical of me calling people who lied about covid and the 2020 election which leads to violent attacks "animals", and not the woman who just said "Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human."

[Sasahara]

@goaded I'm impartial as far as what she said yes. You said she was dehumanizing. I asked if you felt a comment from you were dehumanizing too. Later I mentioned what you said she said.
Here are two definitions of gaslighting:
Merriam webster
"The meaning of GASLIGHTING is psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one's emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator."

Wikipedia
"Gaslighting is a colloquialism, loosely defined as manipulating someone so as to make them question their own reality."

I have not done any such things to you.

[goaded]

@Sasahara So, there's no implication in what you say that my description of people who lie in ways that are likely to get people killed are "animals", is dehumanising (which I agreed with), but not the person who said "Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human." (who denies it)?

Is the phrase: "Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human." dehumanising, or not. Yes or no.

[Sasahara]

@goaded I have not implied anything about what she said, so no there is no implications in my comments about what she said. And I'm not inclined to answer your second question for the time being. I wrote what you wrote, and the only reason I have kept replying is the fact that you insisted I gaslighted you, while what I have said do not match my definition of gaslighting, or what I found by searching. And if you notice, there are two other guys up in the convo I have not mentioned either.

[goaded]

@Sasahara Maybe I should have said "bullshit" instead of "gaslighting", but that could just be the gaslighting talking. I'm not surprised you won't answer a simple yes or no question.

Is the phrase: "Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human." dehumanising. Yes or no?

[Sasahara]

@goaded calling it bullshit would not have helped either, as all my replies are true and not bullshit. You made that question, you said that she said that quote I said you said, I have not implied anything about her comment, and me not doing so is not gaslighting per how I use the word or per definitions I found by searching. And because I'm feeling petulant after being accused of gaslighting I'm not going to answer that particular yes or no question. Perhaps @gordydetails would like to continue talking to you, seems like you stopped answering him yesterday.

[Sasahara]

I made a typo, I ment @gorydetails

[goaded]

@Sasahara This is not my question. You (and the opinion owner) can refuse to answer clear questions without lying, but refusing to respond to reasonable questions is bullshit. Hide behind definitions, if you like, although you're ready to apply the definition of dehumanisation to me but not the person who literally said "Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human.".

We can continue this at Is the phrase: "Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human." dehumanising. Yes or no? ↗ if you like.

[Sasahara]

@goaded I know its not your question, your question was that yes or no question. And no its not a hard question to answer, I gave you my reasoning for not doing so.

[goaded]

@Sasahara Remind me, what was your reason for not saying yes or no to the question:

Is the phrase "Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human." dehumanising?

[goaded]

@Sasahara As to @gorydetails, I left his last post up as an example of his idiocy. There was no conversation there. Pretty much the same as here.

What was your reason for not saying yes or no to the question:

Is the phrase "Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human." dehumanising?

[Sasahara]

@goaded Feeling petulant after being accused gaslighting. I'm going to stay to stay impartial on what she said and not answering that particular question.

[goaded]

@Sasahara Of course you're not, because it's so obvious to everyone that the phrase "Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human." is dehumanising.

You're trying to make out I'm being unreasonable here, which is... gaslighting or bullshit, take your pick.

[Sasahara]

@goaded I'm picking neither, as none of the facts I have replied to you are bullshit and I'm not gaslighting you per how I use the word or per definitions I found by searching.

I'm not gaslighting you.
Statements I have made in replies to you are:
- You asked a question I linked to and asked you about
-You said she said what she said
-I said you said she said that
-I have not implied anything about her or said anything about her
-I'm not gaslighting you and I provided two defintions I found by searching
-At the moment I'm feeling petulant after being accused of gaslighting you

I mean, I can't directly prove I'm feeling petulant, but the proof of my other statements are here in this conversation

[Sasahara]

There should have been gaslighting by you in the last statement. I'm feeling tired and forgot to write the word by.

[goaded]

@Sasahara Nope, you're still unwilling to accept the obvious fact that "Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human." is dehumanising (although that's literally what it says). Tell me that's not true.

[Sasahara]

@goaded I have not said anything about my willingness to accept any fact, just that I won't answer a yes or no question. You are the one that accused me of gaslighting because I did not, and the moment am not going to state any opinion about what she wrote. Thats not gaslighting and I provided two quotes with definition of gaslighting. And non of my claims are bullshit.

[goaded]

@Sasahara You're pathetic. Is the phrase "Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human." dehumanising or not?

[Sasahara]

@goaded You can repeat the question ad nauseam, I'm not going to answer it.

[goaded]

@Sasahara Why won't you answer the question "Is the phrase "Democrats have no feelings, they might not even be human." dehumanising or not?" Is it because you expected me to deny dehumanising people who told lies about covid and elections, which lead to people being killed? Sorry to disappoint you.

Not answering is pathetic.

[Sasahara]

@goaded Honestly, because I'm too petulant to answer questions regarding that statement. You just dressed up your yes or no question in a different way.
I didn't have any big expectations of you denying anything. Infact, I was pleasantly suprised by how you answered, until you accused me of gashlighting. That made feel petulant. I have not felt disapointed by you.

You even made it its own question on the site, now people can come and read our conversation since you linked to here.

[goaded]

@Sasahara I'm fine with people reading this, you're the one who comes off as an asshole. What were you hoping for? Me denying reality? Instead you're stuck avoiding answering the perfectly clear question and looking stupid.

[Sasahara]

@goaded I'm not the asshole here. Yeah I'm not answering that question. I'm still not gaslighting you, and none of the claims I made to you were wrong. As I said earlier, every single claim I made are provable by reading the conversation, except for the one about me feeling petulant. So I would say you look just as stupid.

[Sasahara]

@goaded I were perfectly happy with your answers until you accused me of gaslighting you. What I were hoping for after that is that you would admit I didn't gaslight you. I did even give two examples of the meaning of gaslighting. At the moment I have given up for that too, so I'm just letting you be wrong for whoever bothers to read the conversation.

[Sasahara]

Congratulations with MHO @sage2021, well deserved! Your answer is great.

[AmandaYVR]

Trump is more responsible. He was in a lead position, a position of influence and power, and he manipulated his disciples, not because of moral rightness, but for personal gain. "I never lose. I keep whining and whining until I win." He will use any tactics necessary to retain power. Lying is just the beginning of that Dark Triad of Psychopathy.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/kk-dLCZwg8c

But I'm more concerned about the supporters who follow him, and excuse the inexcusable.

[Twalli]

Trump can't choose those who responded to his rhetoric. If those who listed and responded to it were rational, then the January 6 insurrection wouldn't have happened. We can argue, however, that he knew what they would do because they'd been responding to it for 4+ years, but if they weren't irrational, to begin with then nothing would have happened. So he knew what would happen, but he was not the reason it was able to happen. Those who listened to him allowed him to orchestrate it. Biden supporters given the same message from Biden would not have reacted in the same way, because they're more rational as a whole than Trump supporters.

[goaded]

"Trump can't choose those who responded to his rhetoric" Then he should take care not to say things that irrational people will take seriously and act on. Have you not heard of "will no-one rid me of this turbulent priest"? Leaders have a responsibility to moderate their language and accept facts.

[Twalli]

@goaded I agree, but we elected an irrational narcissistic egomaniac to the presidency, knowing he is that.

[goaded]

An old joke: Tonto and the Lone Ranger are surrounded by hostile Indians. The Lone Ranger: It’s looks like we’re in a lot of trouble, old friend! Tonto: What do you mean “we”, Paleface?

[Twalli]

@goaded I assumed you wre from the U. S.

[goaded]

No prob. It's just a general comment on "we" did this.

[Twalli]

@goaded my point being, if you were in the U. S. I didn't vote for him, but I am an American and for the 4 years he was president, he was my president

[goaded]

True. But did he think he was your president?

[Twalli]

@goaded seeing as he was unaware of my existence, si doubt he considered it.

[Anonymous]

^^^

This ^^^^^

[WhiteSteve]

Fuckin’ A😱😱😱

[DaisyM23]

trump encouraged it but all the supporters were adults with their own brains and free will who decided to attack the CAPITOL of all places, if this was a group of POC the reaction would've been so different

[MCheetah]

The people who control Joe Biden, Washington, CNN, and the idiots like you who believe what they tell you.

So option E: Dumb-ass woke soy boys from San Diego.

[Cassie88]

That was two days ago. Why, what happened? Did I miss something?

[Asker]

I'm talking about the huge coup attempt from two years ago

[Cassie88]

What coup attempt?

[Asker]

January 6th 2020. Look it up. You must have heard of it

[Cassie88]

This must have occurred in an alternative reality of some kind, because there is nothing that took place on that day in history that even remotely resembled a coup or coup attempt, anywhere in the world. Look it up, you won't find it.

[Asker]

My bad I got the yesr wrong. It was January 6, 2021 not 2020

[Cassie88]

Not on that day either. However, I do recall there were anti-corruption and freedom protesters in the capital of some distant, foreign land (Washington DC?) who were mercilessly maligned by the mainstream, corporate media. They were the ones who tried to spread the nonsense that the demonstrators were "insurrectionists", which is hilarious considering they said precisely NOTHING about Burn Loot and Murder demonstrators who basically took over the whole nation for a year and burned it to the ground.

[Asker]

I think you need to do a bit more basic research

[Anonymous]

Actually it's Hillary Clinton, she along with the the help of DNC and MSM legitimized and helped Trump win the Republican nomination in 2016 thinking he'd be the easiest Republican to beat. Had Trump not been not been elevated during the 2016 primary, there would be no President Trump, resulting in no Jan 6th.

[Msputiton]

I mean equally to blame he purposely got them worked up, and they consciously chose to act recklessly

[goaded]

A. None of them would have been there if it hadn't been for Trump's lies.

[Anonymous]

I would say Trump because he encouraged his supporters. They only did what their "god" was telling them to do.

[AviatorTom]

Both were complicit but the supporters were the ones that turned it into a destructive event.

[goaded]

You don't think they wouldn't have been there if it wasn't for the lies they were fed?

[AviatorTom]

@goaded Of course they were there because Donald Trump asked them to be there, and to interrupt the House's confirmation of the election. But we'll never know if he intended for that to be completely peaceful or whether he expected it to become violent. Trump started the event, but it was a minority of supporters that turned it violent, and violence is what Jan 6th will always be remembered for.

[goaded]

How would a peaceful protest have achieved Trump's goal of disrupting the count and passing the chosing of the president to the Republican-majority House?

Once Pence had said he wouldn't lie for Trump, violence was the only option.

[CrazyGirl2]

@goaded OMG what a dangerous thing to believe, that “VIOLENCE WAS THE ONLY OPTION”! I could not disagree more, I know that from Mahatma Gandhi to Martin Luther King Jr, peaceful non-violence has been the very best tool EVER to accomplish political ends in the face of seemingly insurmountable odds. Imagine if instead of non-violence, the protesters in Selma, Alabama were beating the living shit out of the police… The water cannons and police dogs would have appeared to have been completely justified, instead of the terrible racist abominations that they actually were!

[goaded]

@CrazyGirl2 Violence was the only option to achieve Trump's goal of staying in the office he'd lost in the election.

[CrazyGirl2]

@goaded Sorry, I guess you just met the only Gen-Z woman who doesn’t give a shit about Trump. The guy has been out of office for TWO YEARS, if you are still obsessing about Orange-Man bad, I have the name of a fantastic therapist for you, hun.

[BCA6010]

Deadly? That would be entirely on the Capitol Police.

[bean2k21]

You ask as if it's a bad thing to protest a corrupt government.

[Perverted_Creep]

See that I have 58% mho? It means 58% of gag users believe Mr. Pervecreep that donna trumpina is a beautiful woman.

[bean2k21]

@Perverted_Creep And what percentage is dumb as a box of rocks?

[Perverted_Creep]

@CoolCatMar1 for some reason it is still cached in my browser.

The following is a transcript of pervecreeps last words:

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OMG I need a surgeon to pick up my jaw that dropped on the ground.

When I was looking at the first picture it was as if I either went blind and god visited me, or my hypnotist Mairanna has managed to bend space time. I'm not sure whether to describe it as colorless light or infinite love. It was probabling the orgasmic ionization of @bean2k21.

It was revealed to me during this mystical revelation that the mighty cuckold stopped worshipping his master due to an infectious case of the satanic deep throat disease.

When I saw your second photo I immediately rushed to the local police station to ask if they had a lie detector. I couldn't believe my eyes, did I just see something that makes the sum of all beauty in this word become ugly as Arnold's wifeband in comparison? I had to test my eyes if they were right about that one. Unfortunately the angry cops thought I was trying to rape them when I was searching for the lie detector, and they used a stun gun on me. Needless to say I was too stunned to comment about the third selfie.
@cassie88
And remember that boxes of rocks don't exist. They are merely dinosaur coffins because nobody wants archaeologists to say https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNzrem4U298
When they see the skulls of Barbara Walter and king Elizabeth.
https://youtu.be/-ZcabnLvJco

And the real so called fossil fuels are abiotic lubricants for the tectonic plates.

[Perverted_Creep]

@bean2k21 the enlightenment is finding out where you've been lied to and learning the truth. "Knowledge of the truth shall set you free!" -Jesus Christ

In a recent mytake you were lied to that the path to pseudoorgasmic ultraenlightenment was to hold in your ionized gas which should've prevented the the released hydrogen from enlarging your pastor's breast, and the helium release raising the pitch of his voice to that of Miss Piggie.
youtube.com/.../Ugkxx2dZxXl8Zf8QSO8rmka4yOY0XbnbQYj7

The truth is that you don't need to hold in and repress your feelimgs of containing ionized gas. The solution is not to create it in the first place. We've been secretly conspiratorially injected with gas, while raising the prices way too high exclaiming "vladimira putinova needs to die!" And showing masonic hand signs.
While the excess gas was entering us via the anal route of administration, since hydrocarbons that we use for fuel are the Earth's lubricant which the tectonic plates move upon and is practically inexhaustible, they reptiles will for eternity keep wiring the oil pipes into our sewers so that each time you sit on the toilet, they turn on the gas stations with their secret technology of hyperoscilating gases which allows them to move through liquids without making bubbles, so you don't see or hear how the gas is being injected up your ass at the toilet.
Have you ever wondered why @lalaloveee wears a hazmat suit 24/7?

[exitseven]

Nancy Pelosi and that Epps guy. The cop that murdered Ashlee Babbitt also bears some responsibility.

[BJP21]

Never have I seen that level of extremists come from the Republican Party. Its not the first time its ever happened in history.

[goaded]

Mussolini's rise to power, for example?

[Anonymous]

Jesus, you bunch of pansies are STILL talking about that?

How do you find the time when you’re so busy turning kids into trannies?

[goaded]

You're so brave.

[purplepoppy]

The leader is ALWAYS responsible.

[Anonymous]

Tooth fairy, with help fom the alt-left who wanted to smear the Righ as bad.

[Anonymous]

The left that allowed it to happen.

[collie22]

They we're trying to overthrow our country

[gorydetails]

The deadliest day in history. IT's science!

[goaded]

Aw, yes, let's mock the day the republic almost fell.

Pearl Harbor and 9/11 couldn't have destroyed American democracy, but Trump and over 100 oath breakers in Congress nearly managed it.

[gorydetails]

@goaded I'm mocking you drama queens who think a guy in a buffalo hat can overthrow the government.

[goaded]

You should try paying attention to what the weeks long plan to steal the presidency actually was. I'll assume you're ignorant, and not stupid:

Simplified, there's a law that if an election is contested, the House gets to vote for the president. Each state gets two votes, cast by their House majority. In more states than not, the Republicans hold that majority because they hold the smaller states.

If Pence had illegally lied and declared that several states were "contested", helped by forged documents and Republican votes, the decision would have gone to the House. That didn't work.

If Congress had not reconvened to finish the count, the decision would have gone to the House. Hence the armed mob being sent to the Capitol.

If Pence had been spirited away from the Capitol and prevented from returning, the decision would have gone to the House. (Pence: “I trust you, Tim, but you’re not driving the car,” he added. “If I get in that vehicle, you guys are taking off. I’m not getting in the car.”)

[gorydetails]

@goaded OH MY GOD YOU ARE RIGHT! THEN TRUMP KARATE CHOPPED THE SECRET SERVICE AND DROVE THE PRESIDENTIAL LIMO STRAIGHT INTO THE CAPITOL! KILLING AOC AND PELOSI

[goaded]

OK, so not ignorant, a stupid liar.

[gorydetails]

@goaded you sound very upset about it.

[goaded]

What, an attempt to overthrow one of the oldest democracies on the planet? Yes, that seems to be something worth getting upset about. You? You're just being a useful idiot.

[gorydetails]

@goaded yes, it seems very concerning. We should have some hearings or something

[goaded]

@gorydetails There were hearings, as you know, which is where the evidence came out. Since you seem to be one of those people who want to distract from facts, I'll repeat them:

Simplified, there's a law that if an election is contested, the House gets to vote for the president. Each state gets two votes, cast by their House majority. In more states than not, the Republicans hold that majority because they hold the smaller states.

If Pence had illegally lied and declared that several states were "contested", helped by forged documents and Republican votes, the decision would have gone to the House. That didn't work.

If Congress had not reconvened to finish the count, the decision would have gone to the House. Hence the armed mob being sent to the Capitol.

If Pence had been spirited away from the Capitol and prevented from returning, the decision would have gone to the House. (Pence: “I trust you, Tim, but you’re not driving the car,” he added. “If I get in that vehicle, you guys are taking off. I’m not getting in the car.”)

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@goaded wow, that sounds really serious. Did they bring up Trump’s ninja moves on the secret service?

[goaded]

@gorydetails Are you intending to keep denying the existential threat by Trump and the Republican party to American democracy? What am I saying, of course you are. What a d*ck.

[tfan1]

👍🙂

[gorydetails]

@goaded I’m trying to find out when the ninja kicks happened. Didn’t that come up in the trial?

[goaded]

@gorydetails What a dick.

[gorydetails]

@goaded I typed ninja kicks, not dicks. Guess you had a Freudian slip there.