Do you think white people often make bad decisions because they don't want to appear racist towards black people?

[Lookingforthetruth]

Take this case for example.

It started in 1996 when Sally Snowden McKay, 75, and her nephew, musician Joseph ‘Lee’ Baker, 52, were found shot dead inside their home.

It was understood they’d disturbed a burglar and the suspect – 16-year-old Travis Lewis – had shot them in fright.

He then, reportedly, set fire to the house. The teenager, who had been living with his parents nearby, was quickly arrested and charged with the double murder. Despite saying someone else had been involved, on April 7, 1998, Lewis pleaded guilty to the crime. Tried as an adult, he was handed a 28-and-a-half year jail sentence of which he had to serve at least 70 per cent.

Sally’s big-hearted daughter, Martha McKay, believed he deserved to be rehabilitated. A practising Buddhist, she forgave Lewis for what he’d done and began writing to him in prison.

When Lewis was eventually freed in 2018, after serving 22 years, Martha quietly gave him a job. By this time, she had moved to Snowden House (the house her mother was killed in), having bought it from the rest of the family. She had renovated and restored the run-down property, with all its ghosts and dark past, into a high-end bed-and-breakfast and wedding venue. It meant that Lewis, 39, was literally back at the scene of his crime with Martha, locally known as the Lady of the Lake, demonstrating the ultimate forgiveness.

But on Wednesday, March 25 of this year, police responded to an alarm at Snowden House. History was repeating itself as they quickly discovered a body.

Martha, 63, was found at the top of the marble stairs wrapped in a blanket. She’d been stabbed. The suspect, Travis Lewis, fled the scene and was observed by the police jumping into the lake and swimming under water but he never came back up. Forensic specialist later recovered his body.

Yes

No

[Anonymous]

Yes but this isn’t the best example because it’s anecdotal. The black criminal could of easily been a white kid who exhibited all the same psycho violent behavior. The naive and foolishly forgiving Martha might of just as well done this for a non-black offender. Unless she was some sort of BLM activist openly white liberal moron (you only said she was a Buddhist) then there was no evidence she did this out of pure wokeness.

But white people do make bad decisions out of “white guilt” and other nonsense. I believe it’s more about optics and having a progressive sense of wokeness. It makes them feel like they have a “leg up” on other white people. Smug and supercilious

I am talking while people supporting preferential minority hiring quotas, affirmative action, hiring “tokens” in the entertainment industry, etc. They treat black people with kid gloves and that is actually racist in itself. It’s telling black people they are born into victim hood and have no agency to better themselves. They are NOT looking at black people as true equals when they do this shit. They might mean well but it’s actually insulting to black people who are smart, disciplined and earned respect through hard work vs. wanting handouts.

But it’s tough though. I am a landlord and I had black tenants in the past. Truth is I tolerated more crap from a few of them then I would ever tolerate from white tenants. But they were renting rooms right before and during f*cking BLM. I was paranoid of what bs they might pull if I kicked them out. It sucked. Really sucked. BLM did not make help improve race relations but instead made most things worse.

[gorydetails]

Let's not forget the ticketing agent on 9/11 felt the hijackers were shady but didn't report it because he didn't want to be seen as racist.

[Sixgunsound]

👆This.

[zagor]

I believe that agent was a woman.

[gorydetails]

@zagor my bad. I remembered it as a man,.

[madhatters4]

no. i do not think WHITE people OFTEN make bad decisions in an effort to appear not racist.

I would need a heavy dose of the bad decisions made in order to really consider this

[Anonymous]

"A practicing Buddhist" is the key phrase here. I admit I don't know much about Buddhism, I didn't grow up with it, but I know it does teach forgiveness. And this is not the first case of a religious person forgiving someone who then harms or kills them. Also not the first case of a man seeming like he's not a murderer, and then killing his whole family and himself. Unless this post is missing important information, it seems like he did care about her, and just killed her for whatever reason other men kill women they love when they commit suicide. It's still messed up, but this type of crime would not be at all the same as his first. And she would have no reason to suspect it just based on his first.

So I don't think this is an issue of ignoring obvious danger to not appear racist, but an issue of forgiving and getting close to a man who happens to be willing to kill you. This is not that uncommon, as a surprising amount of men are willing to kill you when you're close.

[Lookingforthetruth]

-Guy killed her mother and cousin in the 90s
-Was sentenced to 27 years in jail but got out at 22
-Woman forgave him for killing mother
-Women felt sorry he lost so much of his life since he went away at 16.
-Woman hires him
-Guy works for a while then starts back stealing money from her
-Woman fires him
-Man kills her out of spite.

[Opinion Owner]

Okay. Still very diff crime than the 1st. 1st was kid panic, 2nd was planned. That's the biggest difference n reason to believe he wouldn't kill her. Personally I wouldn't risk it but, again I'd say bc she religious, not bc he black, she forgave

[JamesDiaz11]

Yes, I think this is part of the impetus behind white girls dating black guys (who are horrible choices in partners for a number of reasons). By having a black boyfriend they get a "get out of being accused of racism" free card, in the same way that posting a Ukrainian flag on an instagram bio makes people feel moral.

Anybody with any sense knows that a vast majority of violence, including towards intimate partners, in this country comes from black guys. You can look at the CDC numbers and see that black guys have extremely high numbers of disease, including Herpes (around 1/3). You can look at stats of out-of-wedlock births, and single motherhood and see black guys rarely take care of their kids, usually knocking the girl up then moving on (>70%). All of this on top of being the least educated and lowest earning group, but people are willingly blind to all of this to not seem racist... or to show they're "anti-racist."

[Sixgunsound]

The most anti racist thing white liberals could do would be to restore conditions that allowed black families to be stronger and healthier and have more in-wedlock births than white families on average.

[JamesDiaz11]

@Sixgunsound That's the Candace Owens endorsed approach. I think a more reasonable approach is to export all of them to Liberia and cut funding after 2-3 years. Just like the Native Americans cannot thrive to a significant degree while subsidized by the US govt, I don't believe any people (including black people) benefit from such a status. I don't believe they belong here with us, and would benefit by being among their own people.

[Sixgunsound]

After the first US Civil war, that was attempted and resulted in the formation of the country of Liberia, with Monrovia as it's capital named for US Pesident Monroe. Liberia has aptly been described as hell on earth for decades now.

[JamesDiaz11]

@Sixgunsound Yea, I know. My brother had a girlfriend who was adopted from there, and they describe the poor nature she was in until white people raised her.
They should have removed all of them when they had an opportunity.

[Sixgunsound]

You can't just genocide people who were placed in horrible conditions by people who had power over them. What you can do is hold Democrats responsible for their crimes against humanity and demand punishments of those who perpetuate their political ancestors' legacy.

[JamesDiaz11]

@Sixgunsound You absolutely CAN. Historically that was the only way to build a functional civilization- you removed the other. Look at every bit of historical precedent: Rome needed to eliminate Carthage. The Jews entering the land of Canaan needed to eliminate the Canaanites, and when they did not God punished them- remind me how well Israel is doing with their "Palestinian problem." Let's divorce the morality/ ethics of it, no multicultural society is stable long-term. This is why Persia was vanquished by Macedon; why Byzantine was conquered by the Turks, etc. etc. Forced exodus would be the more moral option, because as long as political parties pursue electoral wins (as both parties do- read Anthony Downs) they will amend themselves to gain niche groups. If you think both parties are so different just look at the platform of John James from Michigan.

[Sixgunsound]

I think it is a globalist uniparty in the United States I've said this frequently.

[Sixgunsound]

Also didn't we force Exodus the Cherokee tribe out West and then forfeit half of Oklahoma to them after American taxpayers built up all the infrastructure?

[JamesDiaz11]

@Sixgunsound Half measures never work out- we should have eliminated them entirely.

[Sixgunsound]

Do you still think that is the way to go 100 years from now when your descendants are in the minority? Remember, what goes around comes around.

[JamesDiaz11]

@Sixgunsound If my people let themselves become a minority in the country they created, and are weak enough to be destroyed, they should be destroyed- and I wouldn't blame whoever does it. I don't expect charity. Although, side note- my kids will be half Asian/ half white and likely in Singapore; so, whatever occurs in the US will be meaningless.

[Sixgunsound]

Then why do you waste time arguing about US events?

[JamesDiaz11]

@Sixgunsound The same reason people debate Plato, Shakespeare, and time travel- it's of interest. The only way the West will be saved is if white people view themselves in the same way as every other race views themselves.

[Sixgunsound]

I've tried pointing out how racist China and India and Japan and Arab states are to no avail.

[JamesDiaz11]

@Sixgunsound Because they enjoy a coherent society of people who look like them, talk like them, and generally believe like they do. What a luxury!

[lightbulb27]

quite a story... wow.

quite a racist question... and possibly, reality... wow!

People make bad decisions. I've seen this kinda thinking with my kids/step, how people are trained not to be racist. So that thinking becomes the priority, rather than trusting your guy/common sense about the person.

People project what they want onto others. They may not understand that person, all their personalities and flaws. Some people lose control of themselves emotionally. If they are strong, it's a real hazard.

Even Jesus and his followers knew to "shake the dust off their shoes" when leaving an area as the people weren't worth talking to. Jesus cursed out the Jewish leaders.

I don't see this as race, but it could be. Reminds me of story of person goign to amazon to bring the Bible to them. They killed him. His wife went back years later and did "save" some of that tribe. She's alive.

[Sixgunsound]

I think that this manufactured race crisis that the system needs to distract us from their crimes against humanity with, lots of people, not just whites, are making bad decisions to avoid offending other races. I miss the days when both blacks and whites could make jokes on shows like The Jeffersons and the other person did the unthinkable: they *LAUGHED*. Laughter truly is the best medicine, which is why meme wars are so effective against hard leftists.

[jshm2]

You should hang your fucking tiny head in shame for trivializing such a matter, you prick.

The case was nothing to do with race, and everything to do with failing to recognise psychopathic personalities.

[jongreat46]

I say yes but not by your example, as someone who has seen white people get into trouble for this, by refusing to apologize instead of explain away their bigoted incident they get into more trouble by digging in their heels and refusing to apologize.

[ParaAustral]

Not just black people, but in general yeah. In 2001 when Mohammed Atta was going to board the flight he later hijacked and crashed into the North WTC, one of the TSA guys almost searched and stopped him but didn't because he didn't want to "racially profile" him.

[Aerissa_Jade]

A double murderer never should of ever got out, should of been life without parole.

[standardguy]

That was not matter of colour or not but a religious decision to forgive and have grace and pity. It neednt be religious person also humanist could do that.

[Dargil]

For now, in this woke setting, yes. But it won't last.

[Sixgunsound]

The social pendulum will eventually swing back to common sense, but that usually takes a generation or two. By that time the global power structure may be irrevocably altered.

[SmokinAces2000]

When have white people ever cared about being racist to black people in American history and this story does not sound like it has anything to do with your question

[InsecureLivesMatter]

Depends on their political views. For progressive liberals and NPC MSM/full-time college students yes, for everyone else no

[Anonymous]

I think the most sensible thing is for White people to get back to only helping out White people.

[Anonymous]

White people in the West are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to genetics. Highly dysgenic and affected by neuroticism.

[Opinion Owner]

I also will never understand why people in this country are so obsessed with "forgiveness."

[OddBeMe]

That doesn’t seem to be stopping the “Karen” movement….

[Flower7]

I don’t feel like this story is about race.

[blueonblack22]

He’s got a point by this is a bad example. It’s anecdotal. Plus there was no evidence that Martha was some sort of leftist activist.

[inhua]

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