Do you think the Right’s resistance to green energy is a conspiracy by other countries to get us dependent on nuclear?

[OddBeMe]

China, Europe, even Russia has been investing heavily in Green Energy.

[BeMuse]

Your propaganda exhibits your low IQ and intellectual laziness. People in right wing areas have been using off-grid clean energy for decades to rung well pumps, greenhouses, homesteads, tractors (biodiesel/ethanol) etc. Much of that technology has been pioneered, tested, and produced in right-wing rural areas to get to the point we are at today. Left-wing areas are urban grid tied centralized distribution systems. Right-wing areas are independent, decentralized, self-sufficient minded systems. If you weren't so brainwashed you could look at basic data and see that it is socialist minded left-winger that depend on the centralized authoritarian model that are resistant to clean energy, but no that's to hard for someone like you. What right-wing people are resistant to is bad economics. When you have shitty electric vehicles that depend on lithium from China to store energy and coal fired power plants to charge them and they still can't do the work that needs to be done to keep a civilization in motion, but you want to outlaw combustion engines that can easily run on biodiesel which is carbon neutral and can be produced in our own country renewable obviously any sane person is going to object to your stupidity. When something makes economic sense, it is utilized. When it doesn't, it is rejected. The market decides what works and what doesn't.

[Leopard23]

I dont think the right has anymore say than the left. America's energy policy is decided by some very smart minds not politicians.

Fact is America has 92 nuclear power plants producing 20% of our electricity and accounts for 50% of the emission free energy production in the US.

Renewable energy accounts for 20% of energy production with red states being a major contributor of renewable energy.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Top_Ten_Wind_States.jpg

The US is a world leader in renewable energy no matter what you hear and most of it has little to do with the government. We aren't like Europe dependant on Russia or the Middle east for energy.

[Aerissa_Jade]

The right isn't resistance to green energy, we are resistant to more expensive energy.

Make wind/solar and other green energy cheaper than fossil energy and people will be all for it.

I'd love to have my power bill go down by half if green energy is so great... and would fully support it.

I don't support policies though that say, oh the grid can't handle peak demands so don't use your AC at those times, or smart washers that wash in the middle of the night when people aren't using power.

I don't want to be woken up in the middle of the night by the dishwasher or washing machine when I'm trying to sleep and I want the AC to work when it is hot, without regard to the power grid. The grid should be designed to handle peak usage, no matter how high it goes and then they can turn it down during slow times.

[OddBeMe]

Funny how we spend 40k per coal job to keep that industry alive. And pay ethanol farmers tax dollars for…nothing.

[Aerissa_Jade]

That's the US fault or subsiding them. They shouldn't be subsiding any energy industry, remove them all from renewables and fossil.

Let the free market dictate which is cheapest and go that route.

I mean direct tax dollars, not tax cuts. Sometimes people say a tax cut is direct, when it is not. I mean taxing one entity and giving money flat out to another, that needs to end for the entire energy industry, regardless of renewables or not.

Then tax them at the same rate percentage wise.

[loveslongnails]

The "policy" that asks you not to use your AC at peak times because the grid can't handle it is a result of not updating the grids on a regular basis. The various federal, state and local agencies and commissions involved in this is the equivalent of a cluster fuck when it comes to getting anything done. And then, there's the cost.

There's plenty of blame to go around as to why tax dollars are not allocated properly to stay on top of these things, rather than having to fix them in crisis mode. Not only the grid, but the air traffic system is in dire need of upgrades.

[douride2]

I found this tidbit of info. Global operational coal-fired power stations by country 2022Published by Jessica Aizarani, Jan 31, 2023 China has the greatest number of coal-fired power stations of any country or territory in the world. As of July 2022, there were 1,118 operational coal power plants on the Chinese Mainland. This was nearly four times the number of such power stations in India, which ranked second. China accounts for over 50 percent of total global coal electricity generation.

[loveslongnails]

China is also the world leader in Renewable Energy Production. The USA and Brazil are a distant 2nd and 3rd.

[NewsReader]

Environmentalists think that switching to "Green" Energy or electricity is quick, easy, and energy-efficient. In reality, it's not. They need to break down the details. Building "Green" technology is expensive, the process of switching takes a long time, can be complex, and expensive. If switching to electric cars, think of how many electrical parts are in them. All of it needs to be made, put together, maintained, fixed, etc. That's a lot of money. Electricity to charge batteries needs to be generated. How will it be generated? If these electrical cars are gonna be connected to the internet, think of the risk if there is a cyber attack or a hack. And that's only a fraction of why it's not quick, easy, or energy-efficient.

[Stoner710]

Well, like I said before green energy is a joke it’s not actually Green. You have to do so much harm to the environment in order to get the materials to make the solar panels to make the wind turbines even Greta Thunberg was protesting the creation of windmills. Because the weather at they scare of the livestock. Solar panels really don’t work in Europe they work in the Sahara desert, but you need an area like the Sahara desert to make them work properly. Solar panels will not work in the winter. Now, if you really want to go green, you would have to use nuclear. Otherwise we might as will continue using fossil fuels or nothing at all. It’s not a conspiracy. It’s reality nuclear is the only way you can go green and have it make any sense. California has tried to go green. California is one of the few states in the United States that could do that and it’s costing them three times as much as carbon-based fuels do green energy is a failure both economically and practically.

[exitseven]

no, I think it is more driven by common sense. They are looking for solutions that are realistic and possible with the current technologies. Switching from coal to natural gas for example contributed to the cleanest air we have had in decades. Encouraging people to upgrade their insulation and switch to high efficiency heating systems are all good solutions. Encouraging solar and wind power where appropriate and harnessing tidal power could also help the environment. Replacing gas fired electric plats with windmills is a recipe for disaster, especially in extreme cold.

[NaultD]

I believe doomsday cultists called the evangelical Christians is the driving factor. They endless preying for the end times and global warming is gods will, second coming of Jesus all that jazz.

Biggest evidence is the don moving the embassy to Jerusalem. Very large donations from evangelical Christians and voter turn out for don moved us closer to the end times of rapture.

[FreyaRed]

Too much green energy will make fossil fuels too cheap. Lobby that exploits sell of fossil fuels isn't willing to allow that. Maybe you see it as left and right issue but it's classical top down issue.

[Surely]

I do not believe that there is a resistance to green energy. I believe that it is the speed that the green energy people think that it can be implemented is the sticking point.
Besides, Killary gave away a large portion of the US uranium!

[Paul_in_Indy]

In what way would nuclear not be green energy?

[msmissydc]

Depends on your definition. It is a non CO2 output energy form, It is NOT a renewable energy source. At least not as long as we talk about the normal nuclear energy. In the form of nuclear fusion it would be but that is not what we normally talk about when talking about nuclear energy. I prefer the renewable energy definition because its the only one that makes sense in a long run.

[Paul_in_Indy]

@msmissydc Well, solar and wind are not renewable, either. They require the mining and refining of specialized materials used to convert the physical energy to electrical energy. Those materials will run out. …and they will run out long before the Plutonium would if we pursued a fast neutron breeder economy. I’ve never understood that fascination with “renewability.” It’s largely an imaginary idea.

[Paul_in_Indy]

Of course, it matters as a relative measure. I just don’t know why some people talk about a binary condition of “renewability.”

For me, the most important (of several important concerns, as you point out) factor in “green” energy is toxic byproducts. We want to avoid poisoning the water and air and soil with toxic compounds. In that regard, Nuclear is, by a rage margin, the best option. Fission reactors produce hundreds of pounds of radioactive byproducts which must be encased (that’s after fuel re-processing, it’s thousands of pounds if we continue to neglect reprocessing). Compared to the millions of tons of highly toxic materials that must be encased (and are usually just piled up in the open or released into the air) in the case of combustion-based power, that is a very green option. Wind and solar currently require a lot of very nasty materials in huge battery banks for continuous supply. That’s why nuclear as a base-load source is both green on its own and enables wide adoption of other green technologies like wind and solar.

[msmissydc]

Do you know how nuclear energy works? Just asking because you talk about not being toxic for the environment. Co2 can literally be converted to O2 by a tree not the same with radioactive waste.

[msmissydc]

You dont need special ressources to produce wind or water turbines. And especially not in comparison to nuclear Power plants.

[msc545]

Not at all what you think about nuclear. It is more of an effort by oil companies to keep us dependent on their oil. The right is very supportive of dirty energy.

[gorydetails]

Nuclear is the most efficient, most environmentally friendly power source we have. You twats fighting facts don't change the facts.

[ChefPapiChulo]

Oil companies lobby the right.

[Echosoul]

They're generally resistant to change it seems.

[notwoke]

we know its an expensive farce

[WowwGirl]

No. .

[imfreeze95]

No I do not