Literally thousands of abuses from priests…none from drag queens that I know of…
The reason that some predators can be found in the Catholic Church is not that the Catholic Church is inherently ideologically conducive to pedophilia.
There is no scripture that advocates for diddling kids.
It's just that priests work as community organizers, running camps and Sunday school, that type of thing, and they have access to kids.
So sociopath child molesters will put on the skin suit of Catholicism (and other religions too) to get close, EVEN THOUGH the Catholic faith specifically constrains and regulates sexual behavior.
You may wank yourself off to the leftist talking point that "herp a derp, there hasn't been a single leftist pedophile in all of social Marxism", but
1. That's not actually true, look up John Money for example.
2. As soon as Drag Queen story hour becomes accepted as a popular thing, pedos WILL start to infiltrate it just to get access.
In fact, that's already happening, isn't it? And here's the thing, by the very nature of gender ideology, its inherent presupposition of "marginalization is bad" and its deconstruction of traditional sexual mores, Drag Queen Story Hour is gonna have a WORSE NOT BETTER time vetting out the pedos because they have already dismissed the common sense traditionalist moral foundational principles that would guide the process.
A weird creepy unmarried motherfucker that engages in wanton sex and can't restrain himself from his urges wants to read to your kids about "self acceptance"? Herp a derp! It would be WHITE SUPREMACIST to believe that he had any ill intention!
TLDR; The Catholic church teaches kids no sex before marriage, no secrets from your parents, tell them if somebody touches you. The LGBT Drag Queens teach that having gay orgies is just part of expressing yourself and it's okay if you don't tell Mom and Dad about what's going at LGBT summer camp.
Were you living under a rock when the sex abuse scandals involving priests occurred? There was a lot of anger about them.
And a simple Google search would have brought you things like this (and much more of the same)
Drag queen story hour reader arrested for sexual abuse
Drag show organizer arrested for child sexual abuse
I know you aren't a parent and you are a leftist propagandist, but even you have to admit it was totally naive of you to think that drag queens weren't involved in sex abuse at all. Similarly, you're beyond naive if you think that the drag queens aren't being used to sexualize children. Ask yourself why they would dress up like that to be around kids. If it really was about promoting literacy, they would dress like teachers do. They are obviously grooming kids.
There's obviously more than four. They were selected to show you that you were dangerously naive when you claimed no drag queens had committed sexual abuse.
And you keep trying to change the subject. It's not appropriate to expose children to adult topics. You, with no kids of your own, falsely claimed that drag queens have never committed sexual abuse. How about just admitting you were wrong?
@RonStone45 what is that logic?
Not all priests are degenerate pedophiles, but all drags are?
Because fuck logic. You want to believe in the narrative in order to justify to remove people out of existence for the simple reason that you don't like them. Not fascist of you at all.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 It's pointless to argue with someone who denies basic facts. All drag queens are degenerates, not all priests are degenerates. A man dressing up as a woman is clearly depraved, sick, evil and against nature. These mentally ill perverts should not be anywhere near kids.
@RonStone45 against nature? Do you hear yourself? Since when wearing a dress has anything to do with our biology. There is nothing ingrained in your body that tells you about dresses.
Look at all the cultures today where people don't even use them.
Look at the past when dresses were used by men!
You are the one denying basic facts.
unnatural for a man to wear one*
@RonStone45 no we are not. Basic biology, we are animals. Great apes to be exact.
You should be able to talk with someone that disagrees with you. Dialogue is part of a good society.
And no, nothing on our biology dictates what we can wear. Our social norms, that we humans made up, dictate what we can wear.
@RonStone45 did you had biology in school? You know that humans and apes share a common ancestor right? You talked about evolution in school I am sure.
And by the way I will be a father this year.
The Catholic Church has underwent the people's outrage for abusing children. However, as for why certain right-leaning politicians don't express their outrage towards the Catholic Church as they do towards drag queens, it's because it doesn't cater to their agenda. Most right-wingers are pro-Christianity and speaking out against a Christian religious organization as a whole defies their entire political philosophy. They're more concerned with attacking "the left" rather than truly protecting children from harm. While I do believe they should be more honest and call every aspect of society that harms children in a non-partisan way, I can't say I blame them for opposing Drag Queen Story Hour either.
My take is if a man wants to dress up as a woman for whatever reason, then more power to him. However, no reason exists for him to read stories to small children when dressed as a woman. Children are not required to be exposed to anything regarding crossdressing, gender identity, or sexual orientation until they are mature enough to make their own decisions to learn about these things on their own time. Children have very impressionable minds, and they could easily become confused and perhaps even corrupted by the existence of drag queens reading them stories. As for the Catholic Church, it is an organized religion. Even though the Catholic Church has a reputation for sexual abuse against children, people are less likely to oppose the church as a whole because not every Catholic organization abuses children. Nonetheless, too many cases of child sexual abuse do happen in the Catholic Church, and rarely are the people involved held accountable. As a result, I believe much heftier punishments must happen to people and organizations that abuse children.
@OddBeMe: Crossdressing is often associated with fetishism, which is sexual. Even if crossdressing isn't sexual in a certain context, that doesn't mean it's appropriate in every situation. For instance, nudity isn't always sexual in every context, such as when showering, visiting the doctor, undergoing a strip search, visiting a nude facility, and so on, but that doesn't mean that kids should be exposed to it, or that naked people should be reading stories to kids. The same logic applies to Drag Queen Story Hour. As for children learning about sexual identity, I believe children shouldn't be learning anything sexual because they're too young. Instead, children should be focused more on enjoying their childhood and learn things that help them maturate into healthy adults. Sexual identity should be reserved for children that are mature enough to handle such topics, such as those in that have reached the age of consent in their state, or at least in their late teens.
Me and thousands of other people are absolutely disgusted and disappointed by priests what are you talking about? I don't understand this question.
Most kids don't even realize that drag queens are actually men wearing makeup and dressed as women so I don't get where's the hate coming from. Did any drag queen abuse a child recently?
He's referencing how Greene and many in the republican party are targeting drag queens and Trans folk as being a major danger to kids all while promoting church and state
@Sirenboobzilla thank you. Concisely put.
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I don’t get it. Drag queens aren’t even sexual in nature, lmfao. I mean, I guess maybe they could tell jokes for an adult audience in the right venue, but there’s just nothing inherently sexual about them. I don’t know, maybe you guys are getting drag queen boners when you see them and it’s got you feeling some type of way, lmfao, but I don’t think the rest of us, and I don’t think even LGBTQ people, are turned on by drag queens. They dress up like Queen Elizabeth and Bette Midler and shit, these aren’t sex symbols they’re impersonating😂😂😂
not upset at all drag queens, just those that want to engage with children.
also being upset with those types of pedophiles freaks doesn't mean we are not upset with those pedophile priests as well, not all priests, just the ones who engage with kids.
and more than upset it's more disgust and hate, these type of people need to be eliminated, it's not about being gay or queer, it's about having this sick mentality that you want to influence a child in sexual things or place ideas that a child does not need as a child.
there are many drag queens who do not do that. they perform for adults who enjoy that type of environment and it's not only gay people, many straight people find that type of entertainment entertaining. But todays drag's are just mostly pedophiles targeting children it's disgusting and trying to justify it by saying if we don't like that then it means we love priests who did similar or worse? that's even MORE disgusting to say. This goes agains all pedophiles no matter what you identify as.
How do you know that most drags are mostly pedophiles?
@Friendlybro79 my thought exactly.
@Friendlybro79 easy. Let's say you hire a women to dress up as Elsa from frozen and go sing at a children's party. Will you assume she is a pedophile? Usually no.
Now, if it is a man dressing up as Elsa now you assume that he is a pedophile. Why is that?
Both are dressing up. Both are at a children's party.
Another.
A magician. A guy dressed as spiderman.
Many are hired to perform at children's parties. None are seen as a problem. But the queer is? Why?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I don't assume that at all. Bring gay or trans doesn't mean you want to abuse children. I'm not sure what your point is.
@Friendlybro79 my bad I was trying to reply to the top comment. Not to you.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 np. I do that sometimes too.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Seriously when did Drag Queens get attributed with “sex”? Have you seen a show or even read about it? It’s mostly comedy or American Idol bullshit. Done in lounges with drinks. Waiters might be a bit scantily clad. But honestly most drag queens have quite the costume.
It’s more similar to cosplay than strip clubs.
I didn't say drag shows have sexual themes. I know it's just a comedy or musical show most of the times. That was my point. A women hired to sing dressed up as something, to some people is fine. If it is a man doing exactly the same, the same people think it's bad.
I am not including myself on that list.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 oh ok. I’m not sure who to fight here. Put ‘em up! Put ‘em up….
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 normal people who want to teach things to kids do not want to teach them about who THEY find SEXUALLY Attractive or about who they CAN find sexually attractive, nor do they go performing very sexualized choreography half naked.
normal people are dressed normally and teach things to kids that they actually benefit from learning in life not about who they can sexually be with or like that they can wear this and this Just such ignorant bullshit. Time Is valuable and while these kids could be learning something that could help them get ahead in life they are instead learning what their teachers are sexually attracted to or whom they want to have sex with or what they want to be called. Seriously wtf.
And who is doing what you described? No one is going into kids faces and saying "I am attracted to men/women". No one is telling them who they must find sexually attractive, except conservatives. And no one is performing sexual choreography in front of children.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I suppose you're not exposed to their tiktok videos they post themselves. "omg! I'm so proud! the 5 year olds told me today they know I like both men and women and they call me they them, I'm sooo proud!!" "today one told me he knows he can wear dresses at school gee golly!" thousands of these type of videos and they post them too learning to do shimmies while other kids are learning math and English and how to do things, these other kids are learning what their teacher sexual preference are. And it's only spreading. sick pathetic ignorance grooming children. and performing sexual choreography there's also thousands of those videos of well that prove it. and they want everyone to accept it. For you to say "no one is performing sexual choreography in front of children" when you know nothing, is just pathetic. When you finally come across it you will happily justify it as well from the looks of it. You are one sick person. yuck.
I suppose you're not capable of uninstalling TikTok on your phone as well as your 5 yr olds? You're a troll. Do you have a problem with other straight porn on the internet that your 5 yr old is watching? Look mom I can blow a submarine full of sailors in a row all I want!!! The internet is a cesspool of garbage your 5 yr old doesn't need to see. Take responsibility parents. They're your kids. You don't need to give them full access to the internet. Who's parenting anyway the kid or you all?
Also what's worse your boy wearing a dress to school or getting gunned down by an AR-15 in school?
@Friendlybro79 this is riduculous its not a kid watching tiktok it's these pedophiles posting their videos of THEM WITH KIDS influencing them teaching them about what sexual preferences they have, like look what I'm doing type of thing exposing that it's happening. You are so dense you thought I mean kids watching tiktok so stupid.
in simple words for your little mind, the videos not just from tiktok but from anywhere proof it's happening not that someone is watching them. SMH to stupidity.
@Friendlybro79 take a look at the recent shooters it's trans community. that last argument of yours is beyond ignorant.
if you're gay or one of these mental people who want to be multiple people "they/thems", then whatever we don't really give a damn about you live your life, just stay out of children's lives. What's the neeeeeeed so desperate to want to influence a child? sick minds.
how many non trans pedophiles are doing the same thing? The statistics point to that most shooters are not trans by the way
3 to 1 white to black shooters. Mainly all males. Also only 4 percent of active shooters are trans.
www.statista.com/.../
The data tells a different story, according to gender and criminology experts. Mass casualty shootings perpetrated by someone identifying as trans or nonbinary are rare, and in fact, those groups are far more likely to be the victims of violence. Here’s a closer look at the facts.
CLAIM: Four recent shootings show there has been an “incredible rise” in transgender or nonbinary mass shooters in the past few years, making the group “by far the largest group committing as a percentage of the population.”
apnews.com/.../fact-check-transgender-nashville-shooting-misinformation-cd62492d066d41e820c138256570978c
Also sorry your royal highness that I misread your comment about the TikTok videos. Sure those things are inappropriate. The trans community is not the only folks sexualizing your kids. This is no excuse not not representative of the entire trans community just as not all priests are child molesters.
*just as all priests are not child molesters
@Friendlybro79 who is saying that? Again little minded person, this is for those who want to engage with children ONLY. All others gays or straits or priests or not, nobody cares what you are who you are what you want to be wha too identify as even if it's delusional we do not care as long as you don't try to engage your mental situation with kids, what's the need for that? That goes for ANYONE trying to sexually influence children in any way. They don't need to learn who you prefer to fuck or who you are romantically attracted to. it's just BS that kids do not need. They need to learn about what will help them grow in life not knowing your sexual preference is irrielevent.
I'm not disagreeing with this statement you just made. You not wanting to coexist with others that are different (live your life just stay out our kids lives comment) is not really considering that probably one kid in a class that is a (as you say mental case they them). Who's caring about that kid when you're treating them like they have the plague. No one is forcing anything down your throat. If they try to teach pronouns in school and you don't agree with just helping someone else feel more comfortable in their skin then maybe you're the mental one. It's a small percent of people that aren't forcing you to be or do anything but aware and acknowledge their existence. It's ok to not agree with them but you can be nice about it. The people sexualizing kids comes in all shapes of life unfortunately and that is bad. Your hateful comments about pronouns being the this plague suggests you need mental help. That's not sexualizing kids. And sure at certain ages this need not be discussed in say a classroom but you were talking about TikTok videos of random bad people. Why are you seeing these videos? You don't have to watch them. Do you have any of these said videos for reference? Im not saying they don't exist but I bet they were taken down if it was something horrible.
Also as far as I know no elementary school is diving deep into any of this as it's not in real curriculum outside of few random teachers that go renegade and usually get in trouble
If it's not clear I agree the things you're referring to with kids is bad. I'm talking about how you're addressing folks that identify as they them and referring to it as mental. You're mental for freaking out the way you are about things om actually not disagreeing with
@Friendlybro79 I'm deciding I am now multiple people now don't call me a she. if someone disagrees I'll have a mental breakdown I'm so sad!. ... yeah.. That's mental.
You have empathy for kids which is good. Work on yourself and this hate and disgust you have for others that don't affect your life. I don't have kids so I know I don't know what's it's like to have them. That said I can understand how it could feel when people are scared for a kids safety.
I'm concerned about people like you that are so angry and hateful towards people different than you. You pretend like the under 1 percent of a segment of a type of person is destroying kids so you can push your hate for the majority of people just different than you that isn't a deviant.
@Friendlybro79 saying someone has a mental problem doesn't mean I'm disgusted by them or angry. as I said I don't care and MOST people don't care either as long as you leave kids alone. I'm disgusted by anyone who wants to influence a child in their sexual preferences and brainwashing etc. You can't seem to grasp what I'm saying you keep twisting things.
You can't grasp that I do agree with sexually influencing young kids in a deviant way.
The way you speak about people different than you pretending you don't care when you just called them mental is what I'm referencing.
Also you stated to not sexually influence kids at all. Do you agree with books being banned that seem inappropriate for kids that might have sexual innuendos?
@Friendlybro79 saying they are mental is speaking truth. if you are a man and you say you are a woman that's mental. you can pretend to be a woman and act like a woman and get surgery to look like a woman but you're a man transformed, not a woman. and that's fine. but its true to say it's mental. There's many gays and trans people who don't do that, it is today's society who want to be delusional and demand all be delusional with them. you can transform into a woman today and nobody will care as long as you leave little kids alone or demand that we accompany you in you delusion. if I want to be a cat today I shouldn't demand that everyone attest that I am now a cat and that' it is true, because it's not, I can be a cat if I want and not get mad that others don't agree that I am a cat, if I go try to influence a child to be an animal and that he needs to learn why I like to be a cat etc. then its reasonable that people will now have an issue with me. same applies to anything else. nobody has an issue with it until you demand that we accept what is not true to be true and that you demand to be involved with children teaching them what you prefer and why when that's irrelevant. Kids grow up and will eventually be who they want to be they don't need this bs brainwashing or sexual context at early age. they need to learn relevant things that help them grow.
What is happening and where in a wide spread fashion that is making you think kids are being sexualized?
I hear about this from right wing sources but don't see any videos on TikTok you're talking about? Also is it like a video or thousands? Of course fox news will bring up one teacher here or there but these are people that represent such a small segment of society and the news can't stop talking about them lol. I'm not sure if the problem you present is really happening that much. If you disagree share facts that prove otherwise with specific examples. TikTok link is an example.
Also if sexualizing your kids are bad do you think the bible should be taught to kids? There's mention to rape, slavery, a father impregnating both daughters? This book isn't banned in places that are banning books to save the kids? I
You clearly didn't understood the tiktoks that you saw. They were glad that the children knew that they could chose to be who they wanted to be. That is all.
Zero grooming involved. But you are so fed up with the lies that have been told you that you can't see that.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 good points. There usually a blanket statement like leave the kids alone keep them safe and followed by some fear they have around kids being "turned" trans or gay because they're exposed to some horrible thing that's almost never the case in real life. People like that are just scared of things they don't understand and turn it into more than it is. This right wing rhetoric around sexualizing kids is not really happening. I'm sure there are one offs but not mass brainwashing like they say is happening.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 OMG this is ridiculous to try to say what is on the content that you have not seen. Ignorance. I hope you don't have children you'd probably expose them to this type of adult sickness.
So share examples with links already... I'm all for agreeing with you if you can find this happening on a large scale.
@Friendlybro79 that's disgusting. so if you see a child being abused it ONLY matters to YOU if it's being done to a certain number to care. You are one suck fuk. This statement alone proves everything. YUCK.
SICK*
You're an idiot. I said it's bad no matter what. No bad things that happen ever are good. Unfortunately bad things do happen. Stop deflecting and piss off. I don't think abuse happening ever is good. My point that your feeble mind can't grasp is I'm asking for evidence of what you suggest is happening. You know the world is filled with bad people. You're just hiding your hate and anti trans beliefs in the disguise of saying this is an bigger problem that say any non trans person abusing children somehow.
ABUSING KIDS IS NEVER OK. IF I NEED TO PUT IT IN BOLD FOR YOU SO YOU CAN STOP SAYING I'M SICK.
DEFEND YOUR TIKTOK RHETORIC WITH A LINK SO I CAN SEE WITH MY OWN EYES THE EVIDENCE YOU CLAIM IS OUT THERE.
I'm not saying you're lying I'm saying show me the receipts because important for people to back up what they claim to be true. I'm sure there's one offs out there to repeat myself WHICH IS STILL UNACCEPTABLE FOR CHILDREN TO BE ABUSED IN ANYWAY SHAPE OR FORM.
I'm concerned you're just trying to find one off examples to hate trans people when all different groups of people do horrible things in a percentage of any group of people.
If you can't produce a link but desire to be the last to speak that's fine but I won't reply if you can't provide evidence so we can understand you better. I tried searching and didn't find anything like you suggest. That said that doesn't mean it's not out there. So please defend yourself with the one thing you can to prove your point which is a link and I will say thank you for providing this and prob agree that this one isolated incident is wrong. I can't do that without seeing what you saw.
@Friendlybro79 100% agree. They were fed this false narrative and believed it out of their prejudice.
No one is beings groomed, turned gay or trans. All that is being said is those people exist and they deserve to exist.
If it is what you described then yes. Unless you described it really poorly, which I doubt.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 @This_Is_My_Opinion8 yes that's pretty much it. Can you say no one is being groomed probably not just statistically speaking but it's not a thing that is exclusive to one particular group of people nor even close to being majority of any group. There will always be a few examples that people will say SEE it's happening but it's a one off that then becomes they're all doing this. Again for the anon that doesn't mean I condone kids being harmed in anyway but it unfortunately happens sometimes.
@Friendlybro79 im not even going to attempt to read all that bs. the part where you said you don't care until it's a certain amount, that alone says it all. you are disgusting. one child being abused is enough, yet it's not even the case, the fact is it's many but you are too disgusting considering that statement alone. so GROSS I'm done here. YUCK.
I'm convinced you have to be chat GPT. Lol. You're so close to be convincing that you're a real person.
You're an absolute moron. I have explained myself enough times so that anyone willing to read what I said will understand I did not mean one kid being abused is ok. I do not believe that
But seriously SHARE THE TIKTOK LINK SO I CAN SAY YOU WE'RE RIGHT THAT YOUR ACCUSATION IS HAPPENING. I WANT TO BELIEVE YOU BUT I CAN'T JUST TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT. Sorry for caps but I know it's hard for you to read
They only abuse and rape children thats not as bad as reading them childrens books and learning about lgbtq+. You know one is in gods name the other thing is hellish in nature. Imagine if this would be legal, reading books and teaching... that would be gruesome. They are HARMING children! They are intervening in the grow up process of these children. Imagine one of them want to be a non religious person, all hope would be lost.
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Hmmm... Do drag queens go out and seek children as an audience, or do parents CHOOSE to take their kids to a drag queen event?
For you information, when kids who attend an event with a drag queen were asked to explain what they thought, they knew overwhelmingly that they were men dressed as women and were in no way "scarred" by the experience. What "scars" is your idea of "Christian love".
Obviously not, but where does it occur more often - in the confines of a church where you leave you kid in trusted care, or at a drag book reading that you attend with your child?
by the way just to make sure: the first sentence should have made it obvious but if that didn't help I hoped the /s made it clear that my first comment was sarcasm.
Without sarcasm: I do think church priests and their cover ups are the by far bigger problem. If they would truly be against it they should have exposed and exiled their priest that did this and not cover it up.
good question. most people are disgusted by what some priests did and maybe some are still doing, who knows. but most, assumably are not abusing kids. most disgusting is it was known and ignored, id fire everyone involved in that.
drag queen shows for little kids appear to be free to do what they want as if it's ok, and it's not.
I'm more disgustedwith the kidnapping and bullying of so many kids to become slaves in a global sex industry... e. g. trafficking.
we should be talking about that...
Exactly so - thousands of clergy abused and molested kids for decades, and it was known and covered up. Nothing was done. Now it's first coming to light, mostly because of the "woke left", not the "Law and Order" Republican Party. Child trafficking? $101 million allocated to the DOJ in 2021, but too few agents.
But yes... drag queen shows that require a parent to choose to bring a child to - now that's a real problem to combat.
@loveslongnails That should be on the news. I've heard stories for years of priests being caught. That would have been done because someone came out and then faught it out in court. not sure I credit the woke left or reprimand the right, they covered the stories as well.
Not sure I buy that, but I agree, I don't see the "theme" on the right media about abusive priests, I do see the theme of "these terrible trans people".
Why one story controls people and the other doesn't, tbd.
hey, you can always call msnbc or cnn and ask them to rehire tucker carlson?
LOL Tucker will probably get hired by Newsmax or OAN, both of whom are also being slammed with lawsuits. Or maybe he'll become a priest?
@loveslongnails or presidential candidate...
He did work for CNN and MSNBC in the past.
I never said they weren't. That's up to the parents to know what's in the show.
@loveslongnails very true. The drag shows I’ve been to have been pretty lame. You see more sex at a Miley Cyrus concert. And those pics that right wing media keeps posting are from private parties. So again, your point is on point. Lol
Thanks. Yes, you see more skin at Hooters or a Miley concert. LOL If you want to see some real indoctrination of kids, order the welcome kit from Moms for LIberty (tyranny actually), and look at the shit they give you. It's frightening.
@loveslongnails Miley is poison, many people I know (on the right) reject that kinda of entertainment already. It's the left that loves Miley's act.
never heard of moms for liberty, but looks like someone sees the real battleground... in schools. If they could only get discipline instilled again, it be a start.
And this is where you make invalid assumptions...
" ... many people I know (on the right) " ... so immediately all your evidence is subjective and anecdotal
" It's the left that loves Miley's act. " - Another assumption that makes it sound like "everyone of the left likes Miley's act". That is as untrue as saying no one on the right likes Miley's act.
Moms For Liberty professes to be about getting involved in their children's education on the curriculum level, and they started by supporting book bans from a list created by the Alliance Defending Freedom and the Council For National Policy. Both are ultra Conservative right wing groups, the latter being highly secretive about their membership.
They used this book list to get legislators to enact laws banning them without ever reading the books themselves, or with legislators reading excerpts only from books that indeed needed to be age regulated. So instead of a real effort to review material and make decisions collectively, they backed laws that swept ALL of the books, on this heavily biased list, off the shelve.
Not only that, they placed some of their preferred material on the shelves and made it required reading. All of their material that I've seen so far is truly indoctrinating and filled with their one-sided views, some of which are religious, which is unconstitutional. Some of it is also pure, absolute bullshit and lies, like MIke Huckabee's so called children's book.
So whatever MFL claims to be, they fall far, far short of being an open minded group that's not influenced heavily by Conservatives who also fund them.
@loveslongnails you make valid points about assumptions, somewhat. I suspect I'm generally right. Hey, I've been to a drag show as well, I'm no prude. I wouldn't go back. I don't like Miley shows, but she's very creative...
yes that is a right wing attempt to take back the schools. In general, I approve of the concept and would rather my kids go there than other schools. I'm sure there is a good balance somewhere.
Id as well rather we have catholic nuns whack kids on the hands with rulers than some of what I see going on. But thats extreme... never went to catholic school.
the knowledge of good and evil...
the battle is for the hearts and minds of the young, "the force is divided, dark side of the force is strong... let the clone wars begin"... to quote a great little fury pointy eared smarty pants with a big sword.
Church used to run most everything in this country.. school, hospitals, caring for homeless... it was stripped out of society and now corrupted by $, the solution to problems... is a pill. That has made a mess, maybe we are going back a bit... I hope so.
Your point about Catholic Schools should not be overlooked. I have untold numbers of accounts by adults who as children were told that if you're not Catholic, you're going to hell. Also, they were forbidden to play with non-Catholic kids.
The balance in the school system's curriculum isn't going to occur by banning books you haven't read, or by accepting an extremist organizations' list of what's proper for the minds of children. There's a very simple solution but red state schools weren't interested in hearing it. You can earmark books deemed "questionable" and require parental consent for your child to read them in the school library.
Very simple solution, but that's NOT what it's all about. The right wing which formerly shouted down liberals for "cancel culture" now wants to cancel everything and every one they don't like, from LGBTQ to actual history. In the 2021-22 school season, the Florida Education Association reported vacancies of 2,440 teaching positions. By the end of the 2022-23 season, they are expected to report over 9,200 vacant positions, including admin. There's no doubt this is due to the many new restrictive laws regarding what teachers can say, do, and teach, and his fascist methods. Over NINE Thousand vacancies in teaching and admin - that's an unmitigated disaster that's getting worse as we write.
@loveslongnails I agree with a lot of what you said, there's always a flip side.
I don't agree about the school vacancies. I've watched videos from teachers as to why they quit and it isn't because of strict right wingers... that part is false.
I like this ladies videos...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8AHJ8dcoK8&t=1207s
I agree with her analysis, and that's a big part of the overall problem. But, you don't suddenly go from 2,400 vacancies to over 9,000 vacancies in a year without a major catalyst. The extreme measures I mentioned above do indeed play a major part, and there's plenty of testimony to that fact and effect, so it's not false, whatever the additional reasons may be. Anyway, it's their problem now, and it's the kids who want to learn that will suffer.
@loveslongnails Interesting vid. But seriously, I still think it’s the parents NOT parenting. A few friends are teachers and you’d be surprised how many aren’t involved. That’s my anecdote.
I agree that parents not parenting are a big problem. But as I said, you don't get a one year increase of 7,000 vacancies because "parents aren't parenting as they should". I don't understand why there's so much DENIAL going on as to what's happening in DeSantistan that's contributed to this problem. *smh*
@loveslongnails I don't know enough about that honestly to comment.
Maybe my media feed is different from yours, but this doesn't sound like conservative raised children are the problem... My wifes a teacher in democratic run city, NYC. It's F'd up even in 1st grade. I'd shut the thing down if I had the power and start over. Smart kids with parents come out of it ok... especially when they move the kids out for high school (lower levels aren't too bad). But other kids stuck... are stuck. Thus I was applauding trump when he was trying to rattle NYC schools. He got shut down and made no progress.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfr2FeTdfPA
I agree that NYC schools are fucked up especially at the upper levels, more so now because of the kids and parents themselves then any other time in history. If you read Trump's education proposals you'll see they're quite ridiculous, and crazy, but I'd expect nothing different from him.
And how would you feel when drag queens do this kind of shit to a female student?
What I read it was an assembly in a school gym. So which was the real deal?
It’s actually interesting. Apparently it was a community college event where 14 yr olds can attend for tech studies. And this guy went way too far. He was only dancing but yes this was bad if 14 yr olds are there.
But then Fox News calls it a public school and people immediately think kindergarten or junior high..
Wtf….
www.msn.com/.../ar-AA19o036
Nobody is defending those predators or making excuses as to why they should be able to abuse or groom children. Anyone in a position of power or influence that push adult fetishes, kink or any other sexual content on children needs to be locked up for life.
It's all about the children. No one cares about drag queens until they children become involved.
Who doesn't care?
I don't know why you say that considering most people, including most Catholics, are outraged by that.
But here's the thing... NO ONE thinks what those priests did is normal or acceptable. But people like you, on the other hand, are literally trying to normalize the behavior of drag queens trying to indoctrinate other people's children with bizarre shit. That's the difference.
Any situation where a kid is going to have their innocence be impacted in relation to sexual shit is going to piss me off. Kids being exposed to drag queens who are wearing exposing shit should not happen (if they're not wearing that, then it's whatever). Also, a lot of people were pissed off about Catholic priests, but people become tired of being pissed. Everyone is aware of it and has moved on with life other than the victims (including their family)
Did I miss something In the news?
If you disagree with treatment of one group, state your case. If it's a solid point, you may change hearts and minds.
But there's no need to add a completely different group into the mix because you feel hurt. Otherwise I can do this for every group. All the religions you didn't mention, a whole races, nationalities, and on
ok and here's my list:
More than 200 million girls and women alive today have undergone female genital mutilation (FGM) in 30 countries in Africa, the Middle East and Asia where FGM is practiced.
Age of consent is as low as 12 in certain countries.
Dalai Lama.. anyone?
All the women teachers you see (at least one a week)
in the black community many teen boys get sexual advances from grown ass women
pimps
buyers of child porn
and if we want to go back 100 years, the Japanese raped the Chinese and Koreans in WW2
i can go on an on.
I know right? Abuses from Catholic priests make me feel angry and disgusted. Drag queens are just being themselves, they're doing nothing wrong. I guess it's because it reminds them that drag queens are gay. You know there are a lot of homophobes out there.
Whereas the Catholic church is worshipped by millions of people around the world. In their minds the priests are all innocent and saints, even when their abuse can be proven.
I think this has more to do about pushing a political agenda amongst young children brainwashing them to think too early at an age they may or may not be a boy girl or thing as well as cutting the parents out of their decision making
Simply being drag for a child to see is abuse. So 100% of drag story hour things are child abuse. Only some priests some of the time committed child abuse. I don't think anyone didn't care about that but it's certainly no where near a majority or even close how many did. Where it's 100% of the drag trans people are committing abuse.
I mean, I’m pissed off at both. I don’t really care of drag queens go to bars, dressed in drag, and do their own thing amongst other adults leave the kids out of it.
Drag shows are not inherently sexual you know? From singing to magic they can have zero sexual themes.
@Stoner710 Actually not. At best it’s an adult lounge serving drinks where drag queens are mostly well dressed in elaborate constumes. Comedy and singing are the usual acts. Maybe some dancer grinds but nothing worse than Miley Cyrus.
Seriously go to one. There’s probably a drag bar in your city. Lots of straights go. Especially women who don’t want to get harassed by straight men.
Yea no you’ll be run out of town if you out a gay bar in this town. You might even be murdered by the natives and your body never found because they’ll just take you out deep into tribal lands where white cops aren’t allowed to go,
They’re not even a gay bar on this side of the state. West side is the democrats side east side is republican
I just don't like drag queens are pushing their weird shit onto kids, such as doing drag races for young boys... also I would never trust my kids with a priest so...
Children do not need to know this stuff.. and yes it is weird it isn't normal even though you all keep trying to push that it is...
Did you see the thing with the 14 year old girl where the guy gave her a lap dance.. its not normal and shouldn't be pushed onto children..
Just things to get through life.. nothing to do with sexuality or pushing the gender and sexuality out of the box...
I don't hate gays... you clown..
I don't like trans, and I don't like people pushing their lifestyles on everyone.. we are meant to be straight that is the norm to breed children. Everything else is just your lifestyle and it doesn't need to pushed onto the majority..
I don't vote.. so it has nothing to do with politics lol I don't empathize with people who deliberately call attention to themselves and cry that it is negative or people make fun of them.. that is life..
Yes I don't believe they should get killed, hurt or abused but that only happens by parents who don't raise their children right to begin with and their kid turns out mean and evil. So yes I still don't need to involve my kids in these sorts of activities and I sure as fuck wouldn't want them to think yes this is a good idea to start cross dressing or being gay..
Fair enough if they chose to be gay but I sure ain't gonna be promoting it to them.
I don't live in America so my vote doesn't mean much lol
There is more dumb people than smart, so even when I voted the person I vote never wins..
I want pedophile priests and pedophile draq queens imprisoned.
In 2022:
Pedophile priests named in Maryland DA's report == over 150
Pedophile priests and clergy named in Texas = = 300
Drag Queens charged with molestation or
sexual abuse of children = = 0
Any questions?
@loveslongnails yes I have some questions.. why did you leave out all the drag Queens that have been charged with sexual molestation? a quick google search shows there is a lot of them..
Also who has ever been ok with Pedophile Priests?
you sure you want to bring attention to the gay pedo priests are part of the LGBTQ community doing all this terrible things to kids?
@David4358 Who's been OK with pedo priests? Are you kidding me? The BISHOPS that ignored the behaviors! Everyone else in the Clergy who knew about it - for decades - and did nothing. NOTHING. That's who.
"A lot of drag queen sexual molesters" -- actually, there's very few especially when compared to the clergy where there are thousands of them - count 'em - thousands. Besides that, what parent leaves their child ALONE with a drag queen? Only an idiot, but they wouldn't hesitate to leave their child at Sunday school, or a Christian day care, or with a priest instructing said kid on how to be an altar boy. I don't see any LAWS banning priests or clergy from being alone with minors, do you?
"Gay pedo priests" - are you calling the priests "gay" because they molested little boys so now you can count them as part of the community you want demonize? Those priests don't think they're "gay". The overriding point is - they're all priests! Or clergy. And the number of them is STAGGERING when compared to LGBTQ people who've actually molested kids.
" LGBTQ community doing all this terrible things to kids?" Bullshit. Pure nonsense. The indoctrination is coming from so-called "Christians", not teachers, not LGBTQ people.
@loveslongnails yes if your male attracted to the same sex your gay, if it's the same sex but a child you are a gay pedophile..
There is terrible people everywhere but if all you can do is point to the terrible people in the Catholic Church as being gay, then is that really the victory you are trying to achieve here?
Nothing in Christianity supports this terrible behavior, in fact it literally goes against it..
So all you have done is point the finger at a bunch of gay pedos that do not follow Christianity at all.. good job
Wouldn't you keep a critical eye on anyone who approaches children in an inappropriate manner? Why are drag queens being singled out? Oh, because they're weird, queer and don't fit in with the fake Christian right narrative. Hmm, but I guess pedophile priests are ok, as long as we keep it under wraps.
@loveslongnails pedophile priests belong in jail, doing anything sexual with kids and that includes grooming should land you in jail.. nobody cared about drag queens until they wanted to do it in front of children..
Tell me what is it about children that you feel then need to do a sexualized show in front of them?
@David4358 Hmm, so if said priests are molesting both boys AND girls, then they'd be "bi-sexual pedo's" instead of just "gay pedo's" ? Like that makes a difference?
"All I've done", and all that anyone who exposes them has done, is point out the vast majority of people committing these crimes against children are the leaders of your beloved churches, the supposed guardians of " the faith". Keep in mind, the same flock are the ones banning books and passing laws to remove children from families merely "suspected" of giving gender care to a child with questions. Yeah... good job. Those same people believe they ARE "good Christians" for doing it, my good man.
@David4358 Excuse me... show me where drag queens petitioned to do sexualized shows in front of children? They didn't. That's for adults. If an adult is stupid enough to take a child to an adult show, that's their fault. This whole drag queen brouhaha is nothing but a distraction from real issues that Republicans have no ideas about solving, and their systematic push to bring a specifically cultivated version of "Christianity" into public education. The best distraction is to demonize someone or something else.
You are right… it doesn’t matter who they are if they mess with children then prison should be their new home!
@David4358 actually no. Drag queens and molestation aren’t a thing, unless it’s them being abused.
www.pbs.org/.../political-rhetoric-false-claims-obscure-the-history-of-drag-performance
It's sad that women are so sexualized that men dressing up in drag is seen as sexual when it's inherently not.
There are multiple videos of drag queens grinding on children, simulating oral sex, and other blatantly sexual acts.
I'm not excusing priests at all - they need to burn - but kids - especially those with single digit ages - should not be sexualized by drag queens. If someone organized stripper story hour for kindergarteners, people would go to jail, but because this is the LGBT community, plenty of people are giving it a pass, and that is WRONG!
Once you are an adult, you can do what you like, but little kids need to be kept away from blatantly adult entertainment. How is it that we've always known this, and then 2016 happened, and suddenly drag, cross dressing, and trans stuff is being pushed everywhere, and especially on elementary school children. That's insane!
Fundamentally, there is ZERO reason for drag queens to be going to elementary schools AT ALL, EVER. Again, I have no problem if adults want to go to drag shows, but young children need to NOT be sexualized at school - PERIOD.
And, yes, while many of these ARE just drag queens reading books (the books being read are often inappropriate, but that's a whole other discussion), schools or just individual activist teachers are often hosting drag shows for kids through the schools, but that take place outside of school hours or even at other venues. Again, this is fundamentally inappropriate - and THESE go WAY beyond reading books:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw8ODTCsaTI
Here's a school talent show, presumably for the kids (elementary and middle school), that had a "surprise performance" of a drag queen. This crap is done intentionally, to subvert parents from keeping their kids away from this. Many teachers actively believe that parents shouldn't be able to decide what their young children are exposed to, and revel in pushing trans ideology on the kids and keeping it secret from parents.
None of this drag stuff is in a bubble - it's all part of a larger woke/pro-trans agenda, and they're actively indoctrinating children with this stuff. That's WRONG - PERIOD. Even 10 years ago, these very same parents would have pulled their kids from school, but are now cheering it on. It's sick.
@MrOracle how can you post a video that blatantly says what it is and still say it's a school talent show 😭 wow. Anyway took literally no effort to find this https://i.ibb.co/5nY49gP/image.webp
Which yes says all ages but also says ADULT CONTENT. It's up to PARENTS to decide to take their children. It's not a childrens show.
Honestly... I can't believe the ignorance and stupidity.
The books being read to kids are literally childrens books. They are NOT being sexualized, you're literally just being a snowflake.
It's literally no different to a Disney princess reading to children.
This is the video I was referring to, with a PTA-sponsored talent show with a "drag surprise":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po8I-WjhIFE
And, yes, there's a HUGE difference between a man cross-dressing (drag) and a woman dressed up as a princess. If you can't tell the difference, I seriously worry for your cognitive abilities.
Also, there are at least 3 active lawsuits due to these "drag story hours" reading VERY inappropriate books to children, and a number of teachers have lost their jobs for the same reason.
@MrOracle you literally are.
If I twerk on video one time does that make my entire being sexual? No.
Drag queens can do shows with sexual material and ALSO read to children in a non sexual matter.
Just because they have done one thing doesn't mean that's all there is to them.
ALSO just because a small amount have done stupid things doesn't mean that EVERYONE HAS.
I assume you've had sex at least once, does that mean you can't talk to children because you've done something sexual?
Your ideas are warped.
I would trust most drag queens before I would trust a priest.
Sometimes the most holier-than-thou types are the ones you should trust the least.👺
There are some in the clergy, teaching profession and other authority that I'm upset with. There's even a President that likes to sniff little girls and shower with his daughter. Yes, I am upset with them as well.
The poster girl for "Stupidest Female Alive" also thinks Biden has " secret gazpacho agents" working for him.
Being "upset" (more like disgusted) by drag queens who want to sexually groom children, doesn't mean that we're not also equally repulsed by predatory Catholic priests.
"An fbi profiler would go after straight males for pedo shit before a drag queen."
Exactly. Meanwhile, predatory drag queens are endorsed by questionable individuals such as yourself.
Now watch this footage (one of many examples) and tell me what is okay about a half naked grown man wearing a thong and dancing provocatively in front of children.
twitter.com/.../1602142894600884224
Because the media is actively praising the drag queens who sexualize children and never bother to ask why they want an audience with children in the first place even though they, by definition, do adult entertainment.
This ^
Both are a problem. You have a bunch fake religious pedos doing fucked up shit to kids and you have men dressed up as women doing sexual stuff in front of kids. Both are fucked up
who is ok with pedophile priests? strawman much?
Are you trying to make the claim that all priests are pedophiles? Or are you saying that Christianity teaches that it's ok to be a pedophile?
Otherwise your reply is not a logical reply to what I said.. if you are saying that then your going to have to back that up with facts and data..
But we both know from our other interactions thats not going to happen is it?
They are not all pedophiles and/or rapists. But there are far to many that do it and/or know of it happening and do nothing.
@OddBeMe i took your advice and did some homework and 4 out of 5 priests are gay..
www.theguardian.com/.../four-in-five-vatican-priests-are-gay-book-claims
so I guess you are anti LGBTQ now then?
Funny how you didn't put the entire title.
"Four in five Vatican priests are gay, book claims"
Key word there is "claims". No actual study done in this.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 funny you didn't read the article otherwise you would of read this..
"The 570-page book, which the French journalist and author Frédéric Martel spent four years researching, is a “startling account of corruption and hypocrisy at the heart of the Vatican”
"Martel, a former adviser to the French government, conducted 1,500 interviews while researching the book, including with 41 cardinals, 52 bishops and monsignors, 45 papal ambassadors or diplomatic officials, 11 Swiss guards and more than 200 priests and seminarians"
They couldnt hide the fact that the priests where gay during the AIDs epidemic.. all of the sudden all of the priests started getting and dying from AIDS..
www.catholicculture.org/.../view.cfm?recnum=12047
"of 26 novices who entered the Missouri Province of the Jesuit order in 1967 and 1968, only seven were eventually ordained priests. Of these seven, three have (to date) died of AIDS, and a fourth is an openly gay priest now working as an artist in New York"
Like that is something in your favor. A simple journalist said a thing an therefore it's correct. Because that logic has never failed before...
In the very link you posted next they say that is impossible to accurately know what percentage of the clergy is homosexual. And that for sure is not more common than what it is in society in general. But of course they also have their agenda being a Catholic site. So they forgot to mention thatd you seem to also forget, that AIDS is not a homosexual disease. It is passed on over heterosexual sex too.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 yes it impossible to know for sure.. but both articles show that the % is extremely high.
I'm not attacking anything, I don't care if a Priest is gay or not, I'm attacking the stupidity of the liberals angle here. By attacking the Priests.. they are attacking the LGBTQ community.
Like I explained, the first one is the work of a single journalist, the second one doesn't even make the claim that you are making. Even if it did, it's a religious site. Not to be trusted with actual data.
And yes, attacking religion is very much justified. And not just for those rapings of children.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 where you have you been? I need more help against these loonies. :)
@david4358 So a “book” is important and should be looked at. But still doesn’t complete the argument. This study by the NIH does though: “ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1.”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1556756/
Honestly I had such long discussions, about so many topics, with so many ridiculous claims that I got tired as don't come here nearly as often.
Drag queens are easier to legislate against. They don't have a huge institution backing them.
i don't know? they all wear dresses so i should
Where has someone said that it's ok for catholic priests to molest children? I'll wait.
Wait, so we have to get rid of an entire institution because a child is molested? That's going to be an exhaustive list.
Ok, so we can disband the federal government, too. Sounds great.
There’s people in the federal government who have molested children. Get rid of judiasim too, daycares, schools. They can all go.
Everybody knows those Catholic priests who molest kids should pay.
Because they want to indoctrinate children. Not all of them, of course.
You.
I get it now. You're a drag queen. LMAO
Thanks for acknowledging I was right.
Ok, but technically a woman can't be a drag queen, so you're DQ'ed.
The only thing that is abundantly clear about you is that you're not a man.
Who says people aren't?
The victims should be compensated and given counseling. All of the guilty should be prosecuted.
But I do not see a legal or moral basis for eliminating an organization for around 1.3 billion adherents.
And what other "Catholic organization" could possibly take over the Church's structure?
@OddBeMe You will just go on about anything! You asked a question that started with "why are you" which any reasonable person would interpret as being asked of all the regular joes here. Next thing ya knwo, you're off in the weeds going on about storming and looting the Vatican. All I can say is, you first cowboy! The Catholic church is one of the most powerful organizations in the world. I guarantee you there's no one here with enough juice to take them down. To say that we, as individuals, have no problem with priests abusing children if we haven't stormed to Vatican is just dumb. It's downright ridiculous and you know it. If every person who had a problem with kids at drag shows got together and attempted what you're suggesting, they wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell. This is you not having an argument and throwing out some nonsense. Do better.
I am not letting priests off the hook
We are upset at both!
So LGBTQ priests abuse boys?
I don't pay much mind to either.
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