Do you get the “per 1000” people crime rate?

[OddBeMe]

Jesus Christ. I’ve had to fckin teach more math in the past 48 hrs than the past decade.

I get you fcks don’t like the idea your small towns aren’t safe havens, instead of the crime infested cesspools they really are.

[DarkWinterNights]

I live in one of the most dangerous states in the country according to the “per 100,000” metric, but we also have one of the smallest populations, so every crime is a much bigger deal than the same crime in a state or city with many millions of people. I don’t feel unsafe going out at night and the only thing I feel concerned about on a regular basis is petty theft. If we had a single weekend like Chicago, it would basically be a huge crisis. I don’t really feel like per capita is the best metric to measure how safe a place is outside of just basic data tracking.

[madhatters4]

who are you so angry at? seems like this question is really directed at certain people

[OddBeMe]

I woke up angry at clients, gag, my wife, the cat.

But I forgot to link my previous question on crime stats where I had to explain basic math to idiots.

[madhatters4]

haha... i hear ya. hope the rest of the Friday works out better for ya

[OddBeMe]

Uhg. Going for a sonic slushee. Love the mango with a bit of peach. Trust me.

[Anonymous]

Do you get your talking points from CNN? When it comes to violent crimes, urban areas are double that of rural areas! Yes, that is "per capita". You cherry pick stats from Birmingham Alabama? Stupid fuck, Birmingham has a population close to 200,000 people! Is that what you consider a "small town"? At least do a little research so you don't look so stupid. Reliable and actual data involves a comparison of several rural and urban areas.

[OddBeMe]

So forget per population, your metric capita? Wha huh?

[Opinion Owner]

I've never heard of "per population".

[OddBeMe]

Same thing, technically. Capita means per population. Per 1000 is breaking large and small cities down to equal comparison.

[OddBeMe]

Oh I think it’s the same technically. I’ve only seen per 1000 (or 100,000) population when comparing two cities. This way you can compare east Jesus nowhere to Chicago and get a quasi accurate look at crime.

Im not saying Chicago isn’t the murder capital of America. Im saying it’s been overhyped and blown out of portion.

[Opinion Owner]

Don't know what you are trying to say. The other day you cherry picked Birmingham, Alabama as a "small" town and compared its violent crime rate to Chicago's rate. Right? Birmingham has a population just under 200,000 people. That is not a small town. Even in the article you posted, it said the suburbs and rural areas, of Birmingham, are significantly lower, "per capita", when it comes to violent crimes. Look up FBI stats and stats from the department of justice. Again, overall, violent crime rates in small towns is almost half that of a large city.

[Opinion Owner]

Lol!!! Now you're claiming Jackson, Mississippi is a small town? It's population is 150,000! You are just fucking dumb!

[Stoner710]

We understand it you gotta look at the frequency of crime and what type of crime as well. Like in my town, there was a murder in March, but before that the last murder was in 2016 versus Seattle, the last murder was last night.

[BoopBoopBeep]

I feel like I'm missing some context for this post.

[OddBeMe]

Yes, I wasn’t fully awake. Last question I posed is prerequisite. Sorry.

[OddBeMe]

You are. Shoulda linked previous post.

[Billlewis]

Deception by omission is everything nowadays.

[OddBeMe]

Yeah that’s my point, exactly. They say 5000 murders in Chicago compared to 500 in Jackson Mississippi! Hah democrats! Well statistically that’s 8% chance of dying in Chicago and 40% in Jackson. Lol

[gorydetails]

Both are democrat run cities.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails what’s a democrat run city? Because I hear that a lot. You’re giving a lot of power to mayors instead of governors and state congresses.

[gorydetails]

You know exactly what it means.

[Wallythewalrus]

Jackson, Mississippi has a population of 150,000. Sorry, OddBall, that's a city. The other day you compared Birmingham, Alabama to Chicago. Apparently you think Birmingham is a "small" town? It's population is 200,000! In fact, these are like the most populated cities in those states! A small town is under 40,000. Now, compare the surrounding TOWNS violent crime rate to those CITIES you mentioned.

[gorydetails]

@Wallythewalrus

Yeah, the demographics are

In 2020, Jackson, MS had a population of 164k people with a median age of 33.5 and a median household income of $40,064. Between 2019 and 2020 the population of Jackson, MS declined from 166,383 to 163,778, a −1.57% decrease and its median household income grew from $38,888 to $40,064, a 3.02% increase.

The 5 largest ethnic groups in Jackson, MS are Black or African American (Non-Hispanic) (82.2%), White (Non-Hispanic) (15.4%), White (Hispanic) (0.778%), Two+ (Non-Hispanic) (0.669%), and Asian (Non-Hispanic) (0.327%).

In 2020, Birmingham, AL had a population of 211k people with a median age of 36.2 and a median household income of $38,832. Between 2019 and 2020 the population of Birmingham, AL declined from 212,297 to 210,928, a −0.645% decrease and its median household income grew from $37,375 to $38,832, a 3.9% increase.

The 5 largest ethnic groups in Birmingham, AL are Black or African American (Non-Hispanic) (68.1%), White (Non-Hispanic) (24.5%), White (Hispanic) (2.06%), Two+ (Non-Hispanic) (1.66%), and Other (Hispanic) (1.46%).

[OddBeMe]

@Wallythewalrus what’s a small town…lol? A city is 4 million people. A town? A small town? 250k sounds really fcking small.

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails wow so you don’t mind skin color being compartmentalized. But when I destroy the myth of small town safety…

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe 75% of americans live in towns with a population less than 5000. A city of 250k is rare and comparatively larger.

[OddBeMe]

If any of you fcks want to offer up a small town to compete with chicago…just let me know and I’ll do the math for you dumbfcks.

[Wallythewalrus]

You dumb fuck! Did you even bother to read your own link the other day? It compared Birmingham to its outlying suburbs and towns! Also, the Bureau of Census actually has a definition of a small town! That's where the stats the FBI and Department of Justice come up with to destroy Your dumb claim! You are just fucking dumb#

[Wallythewalrus]

I just have to say, comparing a city of 200,000 to the third largest city in the country and saying "it's a small town" in comparison, shows how fucking stupid you really are! Chicago is a small town compared to NYC, right?

[OddBeMe]

@Wallythewalrus so…looked up a bunch of towns and smallest I could find is 13,000 people Avon, ID and Glenpool, OK (both 21.7 crimes per 1000). Chicago is only 31 per 1000. Not that much of a difference.

That’s my fckin point.

[Wallythewalrus]

Are you talking violent crimes or crimes in general? The other night you were striktly about "violent crimes". Also, you have to get FBI stats and DOJ stats. They actually represent the country as a whole but I'll leave a link for you. Finally, 10% overall difference in crime, isn't "not much of a difference". Lol especially since we don't know what type of crimes they are.

[OddBeMe]

@Wallythewalrus honestly there’s a similarity in all crimes, violent or smalltime.

Obviously Chicago is the murder capital of America…though it might be Cleveland or Detroit now. But yeah Im talking in general the chance of you being a victim of crime.

Small towns: 21%
Chicago: 31%

And that’s just by your over rexaching the definition of small town. When regular cities are 4 million that brings up every other definition of towns to new standards. Which I don’t think officially exist.

[OddBeMe]

Go a bit bigger and suddenly Chicago is safer compared to “medium small towns” where suddenly there’s 40-50 crimes per 1000 compared to chicago}s 31.

[Anonymous]

People can't afford to live in big cities due to gentrification and are pushed into small towns

[Anonymous]

It’s usually your side that doesn’t understand that. I am curious to see the stats though.

[OddBeMe]

Name a safe small town

[BoopBoopBeep]

Mine. Which I'm not naming, but our last murder was 2010. We're only population 5k. That one was a compassionate murder suicide, but still illegal, so...

[OddBeMe]

@BoopBoopBeep ooh cryptic…and we’re talking all crime or even violent crime. How many rapes in your anon town?

[BoopBoopBeep]

Rape has always been in the teens until 2018... latest data i've seen. Skyrocketted to 57. I suspect that may be mainly in the apartment complex on the edge of town. It gets pretty rough over there.

[BoopBoopBeep]

24 robberies, 105 assaults... and I know that well over 80 of those assaults ARE in fact the apartment complex, because it was discussed at the town hall meeting a little while ago

[BoopBoopBeep]

@OddBeMe
Meant to AT you earlier... I replied, then thought i should be more thorough, so i cut and pasted this:

In the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, violent crime statistics are composed of four offenses: murder/homicide and nonnegligent manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. Our crime rate was 31.01 per 100,000 population apparently. Not sure where that falls compared to other "normal places"... obviously we beat Chicago cause that's a bad weekend, but I've never looked at "normal places" in comparison.

[OddBeMe]

@BoopBoopBeep that’s what everyone here needs to start understanding. It’s not about one bad weekend or one months stats last year. Or even total number of crimes last year.

To compare “small towns” to Chicago we go by PER 1000 people. And most of the time it’s similar. So this “inner city crime” is a fckin myth.

[BoopBoopBeep]

@OddBeMe I've lived in both. I've had more "attempted robberies plus" happen to me personally in the inner city. One bad weekend in the projects and I saw more crime than I've seen my decade in a small town, but that's anecdotal.

My town's rate per 1000 is far below the state and national average. Our violent crime rate is barely over 30. The state average is 520, the national average is just under 400. Those ARE violent crime per 100k people from FBI datasets. I'm not sure I follow, fully, because surely you can't be saying that you feel St. Louis MO and Weiser, Idaho are comparable in crime rate per capita to one another, because the math simply doesn't support that. That's why I know I'm missing something. That is NOT anecdotal, and that is NOT one bad month. That is year after year after year, we are always a fraction of the national average, per capita, and well below the state average, per capita. For property crime, we are consistently around 60% of the US and half the state average or lower. Usually much lower, but our peak years are around 60%

[OddBeMe]

@BoopBoopBeep “you personally” means absolutely nothing to anyone but you.

[BoopBoopBeep]

@OddBeMe
True, but that doesn't negate the statistics in the next paragraph.

[OddBeMe]

@BoopBoopBeep so your towns violent crime rate is about the same as Chicago, per 1000 peaple.

[BoopBoopBeep]

@OddBeMe
You are off by several magnitudes.
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/il/chicago/crime

Chicago crime rate per 1,000 is 8.7

I was quoting my town's crime rate per 100,000 as 30.

So 8.7 vs 0.3.

Not even close.

[OddBeMe]

@BoopBoopBeep Wait…you’re saying your anonymous small town only has 30 crimes per 100,000 people? I would say that’s absolutely impossible.

Chicago has 3,926 crimes per 100,000 people.
Savannah, Georgia: 3,119 per 100,000
https://www.areavibes.com/savannah-ga/crime/

[BoopBoopBeep]

@OddBeMe
Yes, because we don't have 100,000 people, or anywhere near it. This and the past four I've lived in have comparable numbers. All were under 5k people, which admittedly is very small, but if you're original argument was that we're no safer than chicago, the fbi crime statistics disagree.

also, here's a nice list of slightly larger cities
www.safewise.com/.../#100_safest_small_towns

[BoopBoopBeep]

We also had 8 consecutive years with no murders, and that was broken by a murder suicide when a guy's wife was dying of cancer or something so he offed them both.

[OddBeMe]

@BoopBoopBeep sigh…all crimes shitbird. That’s my point. Right wingers paint Dem cities as crime zones but they don’t factor in all crimes. All crimes it’s pretty equivalent. As…I keep.. fcking…saying

[BoopBoopBeep]

Yes, all crimes. Are you autistic? How many times do I have to say it?

again:

You are off by several magnitudes.
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/il/chicago/crime

Chicago crime rate per 1,000 is 8.7

I was quoting my town's crime rate per 100,000 as 30. ALL CRIMES, "shitbird"

So 8.7 vs 0.3.

Not even close.

Matter of fact past 30 days alone I've had races IN or through comparable towns three times. Get outside the beltway sometime. Have you honestly never left the big city, wherever you live, and just assume it's like that everywhere. Check out any of the multitude of links and lists I've provided. You're being intentionally obtuse on this, and normally you're above that.

[shortster]

I thought they did crime rates in the per Capita or per 100,000?

[Anonymous]

The per capita rate is every hundred thousand, not thousand.

[OddBeMe]

And can be anything. When comparing large to smaller towns, per 1000 is better.

[Opinion Owner]

Then no one is going to know what you mean if you say per capita if you change how it is used because the town just so happens to be smaller.

What would be the difference anyway? You're going to get about the same answer, all the 1000 verses 100k will just be a reduction of the original fraction.

[gorydetails]

what are you whining about today?

[OddBeMe]

Math, over your pay grade. Kiddie table is serving pudding. Off you go.

[gorydetails]

You might be getting dumber every day. Try working out every now and then. It helps with blood flow to the brain.